**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 31 02:59:56 2010 Mar 31 03:03:35 Adora: Try 0.6.1 Save/Restore for Flickr Addict support Mar 31 03:03:54 The autobuilder should build and release it soon, if not already. Mar 31 03:04:08 * rwhitby bbl Mar 31 03:05:37 zsoc tried that. from what i'm reading i think the problem is that i updated to 1.4 without removing my patches first Mar 31 03:05:52 and now i might have to manually remove the patches from the command line.. not 100% sure yet Mar 31 03:55:30 seems that jefferycn is interested in getting Japanese input started. He's asking about dictionary files, I'm having trouble finding the right sources though, looking up some Anthy documents but nothing specifies exactly where the dictionaries are Mar 31 04:05:03 where are the patches for Preware located? Mar 31 04:06:26 i have a new palm pre and i went into developer mode...after restarting it just says palm on the display ...how can i fix it?...im on sprint Mar 31 04:07:04 How long has that been displayed? Mar 31 04:07:10 5 mins Mar 31 04:07:13 or more Mar 31 04:07:16 Give it 5 more Mar 31 04:07:20 if not, then pull the battery Mar 31 04:07:29 how do i get to the battery? Mar 31 04:07:39 Take off the back cover and pull the black tab Mar 31 04:07:49 theres a button at the bottom of the Pre Mar 31 04:07:59 push it in and unclip the cover Mar 31 04:08:34 coll Mar 31 04:08:50 got it....does it take a while to go into dev mode? Mar 31 04:08:59 coll=cool Mar 31 04:09:10 No Mar 31 04:09:14 Just a simple restart Mar 31 04:09:19 CosmoSRO: once you start dev mode .. you can use novaterm to check out what's happening during boot up .. Mar 31 04:09:39 i have nova...how do i launch it? Mar 31 04:09:59 im trying to put in my tether Mar 31 04:10:00 novaterm ? Mar 31 04:10:19 i have novacom or something running in taskman Mar 31 04:10:44 have you seen the topic with the link to the wiki ? Mar 31 04:10:46 it's very helpful Mar 31 04:10:53 novacomd Mar 31 04:11:08 Anyone willing to expand on my sms vibration patches? :) Mar 31 04:11:25 no...just following directions to get this stuff installed and i got stuck in dev mode Mar 31 04:13:53 so i pulled battery...am i in dev mode? Mar 31 04:14:18 if it booted up, yes Mar 31 04:14:52 what about the found new hardware wizard on my pc? Mar 31 04:15:20 dont worry Mar 31 04:15:27 where do i get the drivers? Mar 31 04:15:33 do i cancel it? Mar 31 04:15:35 No Mar 31 04:15:41 Just let it run its course Mar 31 04:15:46 so just go with it? Mar 31 04:15:49 k Mar 31 04:16:07 also...how do u get out of dev mode or how can i be sure im in dev mode? Mar 31 04:16:30 its installing novacom Mar 31 04:16:42 thats good i guess Mar 31 04:17:13 it was unable to install novacom Mar 31 04:21:35 thanks Mar 31 04:22:08 wassabi! Mar 31 04:34:07 whooooooaaaaaaaaaaa Mar 31 04:35:58 someone developed a Japanese IME for WebOS? Although doesn't seem as integrated as justinput is Mar 31 05:28:22 wtffffffffffffff Mar 31 05:28:46 I just discovered someone at Palm uses the Japanese IME Mar 31 05:33:15 haha she had video recording since beginning of January, nice. Mar 31 05:34:23 apparently St Patricks Day is crazy pants day at Palm Mar 31 05:34:30 weird Mar 31 05:34:35 sounds fun Mar 31 05:34:45 http://www.flickr.com/photos/girliemac/ Mar 31 05:43:56 morning Mar 31 05:45:35 morning Mar 31 05:59:23 are there any time lapse apps for webos? Mar 31 06:00:53 can someone help me get preware on my pre? im on a mac and i can't seem to get my webosdoctor.jar file working Mar 31 06:02:42 can someone help me get preware on my pre? im on a mac and i can't seem to get my webosdoctor.jar file working Mar 31 07:27:02 morning Mar 31 07:59:22 yo Mar 31 08:00:58 yo Mar 31 08:22:04 how does preware call the app catalog? Mar 31 08:24:47 i do an open browser call with the target http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid, but that opens the browser first and then the app catalog from there Mar 31 08:32:08 ok, figured it out Mar 31 10:16:26 morning swisstomcat Mar 31 10:29:47 morning all Mar 31 10:30:32 rwhitby: Is there any docu of the scve/restor scipt format until now. To be able to add support for more appliactions. Mar 31 10:31:00 The do not looc that complicated in git, but I'm not sure wthat is needed as a minimum Mar 31 10:35:31 hape_: there are 20 examples - that's the doco Mar 31 10:35:49 the 6 or so lines in each script are all that is required Mar 31 10:36:04 (unless the app is doing something out of the ordinary) Mar 31 10:37:48 morning rwhitby Mar 31 10:38:14 great progress on the saverestore ... i'm sorry i couldn't help further .. day job taking away all the resources Mar 31 10:38:55 rwhitby: ok, will give it a try Mar 31 10:40:00 i have time now and the next days .. is there something that needs to be done? Mar 31 10:48:14 swisstomcat: one thing that needs to be done on Preware is adding a screen for entering regexp to omit certain vendors or apps from the displayed feeds Mar 31 10:48:15 regexps Mar 31 10:48:15 and in the package lists, a swipe on an app gives you the choice of blacklisting the vendor or the app Mar 31 10:49:01 ok, i can try to figure that out Mar 31 10:50:03 a report of the swiss openexpo is also in the works Mar 31 11:43:53 So HAWX is a good game so far Mar 31 12:46:53 meow Mar 31 12:48:28 * nt4cats coughs up a hairball, looks at the people here with indifference (but note the subtle 'I could kill you and eat you if I wanted to' undertone), and flops down on the floor for a nap Mar 31 12:48:59 hehe Mar 31 12:59:45 how i can extract an ipk? Mar 31 13:01:02 on what platform? Mar 31 13:01:18 ubuntu Mar 31 13:01:36 double click Mar 31 13:04:54 well you cant because it's a wrong format or something and it's armv7 which is wrong architecture Mar 31 13:05:09 i tried to dpkg --unpack *armv7.ipk with no luck Mar 31 13:05:24 use "open with" Mar 31 13:05:26 en0x: I saw this on the google: Mar 31 13:05:29 "So, a .ipk file is an archive (either tar or gzipped tar) containing 3 members:" Mar 31 13:05:37 open with archive manager Mar 31 13:05:49 en0x: so if all you want is to open it up just use tar Mar 31 13:06:09 right click and then "open with archive manager" .. default is package installer .. not what you want Mar 31 13:06:36 en0x: or if you are a GUI weenie who is terrified of that scary command-line, do what swisstomcat says Mar 31 13:06:44 then you'll see data.tar.gt inside which is the app Mar 31 13:07:11 i'm not scared of it, i'm just lazy sometimes :) Mar 31 13:08:18 swisstomcat: I'm just being obnoxious/silly ... I use GUI tools as often as I use the commandline Mar 31 13:08:32 i know Mar 31 13:11:59 i dont care about gui ;) Mar 31 13:12:03 ok got it thanks Mar 31 13:12:21 how can i extract the $L strings from all the files? Mar 31 13:12:38 define 'extract' Mar 31 13:13:09 put all of them into another file Mar 31 13:13:17 preferrably strings.json :) Mar 31 13:13:25 I'm not sure what a "$L" string is Mar 31 13:13:29 oh Mar 31 13:13:30 do you have an example input file I can see? Mar 31 13:13:58 this.controller.setupWidget("password", this.attributes = { hintText: $L('Type Password') .... Mar 31 13:13:58 }, Mar 31 13:14:05 got it Mar 31 13:14:07 new messaging plugins on precentral Mar 31 13:14:42 i heard that dalmaers palm-run does this but i never got it running Mar 31 13:16:11 is there a simple xml file or something that has all my contacts in it? Mar 31 13:16:26 Dave__: I think they're in a sqlite database Mar 31 13:16:49 yap contacts are in sql Mar 31 13:17:35 yep Mar 31 13:21:03 hmm Mar 31 13:21:17 before i mess with it, has anyone already done something for dumping the contacts out of it? Mar 31 13:21:18 swisstomcat: here's the 'hard' part: Mar 31 13:21:38 egrep -o "\\\$L$'[A-Za-z0-9 ]+'$" {input file(s)} Mar 31 13:22:13 this assumes that your strings are letters, numbers, and spaces only Mar 31 13:22:46 This spits out the entire "$L('whatever')" string Mar 31 13:23:02 let me try Mar 31 13:23:57 cool Mar 31 13:24:12 now i just need to pass a list of js files to it Mar 31 13:24:41 Dave__: see Save/Restore and write a new query script for it Mar 31 13:24:49 http://bit.ly/saverestore Mar 31 13:25:06 http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/saverestore.git;a=tree;f=scripts Mar 31 13:27:03 looking great btw Mar 31 13:27:37 hey anoutsider Mar 31 13:27:47 hey, don't assault me Mar 31 13:27:55 anoutsider: were you working on the saverestore gui? Mar 31 13:28:06 not recently no Mar 31 13:28:16 just wanted to say 'great job' Mar 31 13:28:32 I just did the base work, I think rod and oil polished it :) Mar 31 13:28:44 thumbs up to them too Mar 31 13:28:50 I polished it by grabbing all the code from Preware Mar 31 13:28:56 i just managed to do the very first parts Mar 31 13:29:06 indeed, it's proved useful. I've gotta ssh into my phone and make some scripts for more apps Mar 31 13:29:12 but I did add some extra features like the toggle switches clicking off and the dashboard banner Mar 31 13:29:29 AnOutsider: don't forget to add them to the repo Mar 31 13:29:45 did u also do the scrolling as it saved each Mar 31 13:29:47 nice touch Mar 31 13:29:51 yep Mar 31 13:30:05 and the updating of the items to show the files saved and the timestamps Mar 31 13:30:23 yeah, def good touches. made it more user friendlty Mar 31 13:30:35 swisstomcat: this will let you have anything in your string Mar 31 13:30:38 egrep -o "\\\$L$'[^']+'$" Mar 31 13:30:52 and the disabling of the numbers and rows on the front screen while it's reloading Mar 31 13:31:01 (actually I did the reloading bit too :-) Mar 31 13:31:32 wish my dayjob would leave me more time Mar 31 13:32:52 ditto, we'd have a dedicated theme app by now ;) Mar 31 13:33:00 especially if rod did the service heh Mar 31 13:35:38 AnOutsider: you know you could use Save/Restore to install themes ;) Mar 31 13:36:14 it wouldn't be pretty, but it's technically possible Mar 31 13:38:24 nt4cats: probably a stupid question but why doesn't ls -l | egrep -o "\\\$L$'[^']+'$" work? Mar 31 13:38:39 ls -l produces a list of file names Mar 31 13:38:50 yeah Mar 31 13:38:51 none of those file names match your regular expression Mar 31 13:38:56 oh Mar 31 13:38:56 the CONTENTS of those files may match ... Mar 31 13:39:03 ok, i get it Mar 31 13:39:06 you could do this: Mar 31 13:39:23 egrep "{blah}" * Mar 31 13:39:25 ls -l | cat | egrep? Mar 31 13:39:52 just putting a '*' after egrep tells egrep to process all files as input Mar 31 13:40:01 .. or maybe you want Mar 31 13:40:06 grep "{blah}" *.js Mar 31 13:40:22 s/grep/egrep/ Mar 31 13:40:22 nt4cats meant: egrep "{blah}" *.js Mar 31 13:40:31 that worked :) Mar 31 13:40:37 Or I could reverse-engineer your c service :) Mar 31 13:40:46 alas, time tho Mar 31 13:40:50 why reverse engineer since it's open source? Mar 31 13:41:07 nt4cats: thank you .. that trick saves time Mar 31 13:41:23 just meaning I'd use that code to figure out how to do my own Mar 31 13:43:18 last thing .. egrep displays the file where it finds the match .. can that be switched off? Mar 31 13:43:58 -h, --no-filename suppress the prefixing filename on output Mar 31 13:44:00 found it Mar 31 13:44:13 cool Mar 31 13:46:12 did you want just the strings without the leading "$L(" and trailing ")"? Mar 31 13:46:28 if so a quick-and-dirty way to get that is: Mar 31 13:47:18 egrep -h -o "\\\$L$'[^']+'$" * | egrep -o "'[^']+'" Mar 31 13:47:54 (and the '*' in the middle there is the shell filename expression -- replace that with "*.js" or whatever) Mar 31 13:48:26 it's funny .. i end up seeing lisp as too many parens .. but i have no problem with the excessive number of \'s in regex's .. Mar 31 13:48:29 so crazy Mar 31 13:48:57 bpadalino: lisp IS too many parens (Lotsa Insidious Silly Parentheses) Mar 31 13:52:20 and regex's don't have too many \'s ? Mar 31 13:53:13 very cool nt4cats ... Mar 31 13:53:35 shall i create a page for webos-internals? Mar 31 13:54:07 "how to extract $L strings" Mar 31 13:56:14 swisstomcat: if you think other people could use the information, sure Mar 31 13:56:39 they might .. especially now with the international launch Mar 31 13:56:54 swisstomcat: and when I'm between tasks today I'll see if i can figure out the backreference syntax for egrep and then you won't need the 2nd egrep Mar 31 14:04:52 swisstomcat: make sure you include this http://tinyurl.com/y86yht9 along with the "$L text howto" if you write one up. Mar 31 14:05:41 whaaa Mar 31 14:05:50 let me call my lawyer Mar 31 14:21:00 rwhitby: are the autobuilt kernels going to be out soon or is it going to be a while? Mar 31 14:22:20 rwhitby went to bed Mar 31 15:52:15 I'm surprised at how well this chip runs at 800mhz. I was expecting more instability Mar 31 15:53:25 riiight Mar 31 15:54:30 zsoc_wirc, i'm running at 720Mhz Mar 31 15:55:05 nebula: ? Mar 31 15:55:44 hi all Mar 31 15:55:54 zsoc_wirc: haven Mar 31 15:56:03 haven't been here in a while Mar 31 15:56:09 nebula: ha.... ven? Mar 31 15:56:15 heh Mar 31 15:56:16 nebula: oh. hi :) Mar 31 15:56:24 'lo Mar 31 15:56:57 so i've moved completely from the pre to the pixi Mar 31 15:57:13 couldn't stand the flimsy factor :( Mar 31 15:57:23 sure am missing 3d, etc. though Mar 31 15:57:47 nebula: new sprint device coming Mar 31 15:58:04 yeah, thought it was droid..? Mar 31 15:58:18 i'm running on 720mhz as well Mar 31 15:58:22 nebula: I mean a new palm device Mar 31 15:58:37 where are you getting this inforomation? Mar 31 15:58:47 4g i would hope Mar 31 15:59:01 nebula: probably not. I imagine pre plus Mar 31 15:59:08 ah, that would make sense Mar 31 15:59:17 castle`: common sense? all inventory is out to channels. Mar 31 15:59:28 is the pre plus better than the pre with form factor flimsy issues? Mar 31 15:59:38 url please Mar 31 16:00:15 lol Mar 31 16:00:28 nebula: yes Mar 31 16:00:36 figures ;) Mar 31 16:00:37 no pre plus for sprint, their network "cant handle tethering" Mar 31 16:00:56 :D Mar 31 16:00:57 thought i read something about cdma the other day Mar 31 16:01:08 some new way that could handle voice/data Mar 31 16:02:31 * scoutcamper doubts it Mar 31 16:14:11 it's supposed to be on the EVO Mar 31 16:14:35 although I expect they confused it with using wimax and phone at the same time Mar 31 16:28:49 http://blog.laptopmag.com/march-smart-phone-madness-game-13-palm-pre-plus-vs-htc-hd2 Mar 31 16:28:54 vote early vote often Mar 31 16:29:25 scoutcamper: can't handle tethering? They sell the MiFi device that shares EVDO over WiFi for multiple devices ... Mar 31 16:30:04 * nt4cats wonders if scoutcamper's afterwards was pointing out the silliness of such a statement ... Mar 31 16:31:01 From the annals of useful statistics: currently the vote is 92% Pre, 8% HTC HD2 Mar 31 16:42:04 [12:28:45] vote early vote often Mar 31 16:42:05 * VincentLaw votes Mar 31 16:42:11 * VincentLaw resets 3G card, votes again Mar 31 16:42:14 * VincentLaw resets 3G card, votes again Mar 31 16:42:15 etc Mar 31 16:43:50 hi Mar 31 16:43:51 wait, why do I bother, the pre's already winning by like 1000 votes Mar 31 16:43:55 hape_ ? Mar 31 16:44:04 new vote? Mar 31 16:44:07 VincentLaw, the Pre barely won against the black berry Mar 31 16:44:14 So you better put your vote in fucker ;) Mar 31 16:45:13 psykoz: I consider that a fluke, to be honest. there's absolutely no reason that poll should have been that close, compared to the pre vs Nexus One Mar 31 16:45:48 Lots of people own blackberry's Mar 31 16:45:52 (that is, I'd expect it to be very close race with the nexus one, not the blackberry) Mar 31 16:45:54 Lots of people don't own Nexus Ones Mar 31 16:46:09 yeah, but lots of people own crappy nokia bricks too, doesn't mean they're good :p Mar 31 16:46:38 hi, i've got a little question. i just reflashed my palm pre and installed the terminal. but i have the same problem as before: everytime i try to run the termina, luna restarts Mar 31 16:46:46 after all... it boils down to the phone that has the most users that are proud of it... Mar 31 16:47:00 can anyone help? Mar 31 16:47:19 Butch: terminal won't work with webOS 1.4 Mar 31 16:47:58 oh no. how can i get a shell then? for ssh i need terminal Mar 31 16:48:02 http://tiny.cc/PreVsHd2 <--- short version of the vote page Mar 31 16:48:27 Butch: novacom Mar 31 16:48:32 Butch: there's another app called ... Terminus? Mar 31 16:48:33 use that Mar 31 16:48:57 what about the SDL terminal? need I to do it tonight? Mar 31 16:49:02 novaterm is not enough cause there i have no root-access. i will try terminus. thy Mar 31 16:49:04 thx Mar 31 16:49:20 novaterm should give you root... Mar 31 16:49:24 Butch: novaterm gives you root Mar 31 16:49:37 VincentLaw: maybe he can't install novacom because he doesn't have root on his PC ? Mar 31 16:49:47 oh, i have Mar 31 16:49:58 but last time i couldnt access /home/root Mar 31 16:50:04 nt4cats: then I'd say sshd + putty :p Mar 31 16:50:35 Lunch! Mar 31 16:50:40 that was my intention. but for sshd i need access to edit the conf or create/copy the key Mar 31 16:51:00 also root is in /var/home/root, althoguh I believe /home/root is a symlink Mar 31 16:51:11 it is Mar 31 16:53:12 hape_: added the pdl as advised, make still fails - don't know from where the filename should come Mar 31 17:32:20 MetaView: where dose it fail? Mar 31 17:32:33 the pdk stuff Mar 31 17:32:44 but I changhed the makefile on my own, now it builds Mar 31 17:36:45 ok, if found the problem to. Mar 31 17:37:04 The mane in the cuurent makefile is tar.gz the one i send you is tgz Mar 31 17:37:37 on behalf of hape_: s/mane/name Mar 31 17:38:18 hape_: ok, that's explains things Mar 31 17:38:23 -'s Mar 31 17:40:06 MetaView: hape_: you guys building stuff in the official pdk? Mar 31 17:41:26 no weobis interns pdk Mar 31 17:42:05 zsoc_wirc: there is a makefile /noworking/pdl that includes the headr and the li bs from the beta Palm pdk into the webosainternals pdk Mar 31 17:42:53 zsoc_wirc: at the moment you need to have the Palm pdk als tzg in your downloads forlder as the outoextract from the downlaodbale mac pdk is not working/implemented Mar 31 17:43:04 is egaudet on vacation or something? I have questions about aupt4, vkb, and efv Mar 31 17:43:10 hape_: gotcha. is thee official word on pdl/pdk~>mojo app communication? Mar 31 17:43:41 s/thee/there/ Mar 31 17:43:43 zsoc_wirc meant: hape_: gotcha. is there official word on pdl/pdk~>mojo app communication? Mar 31 17:43:59 zsoc_wirc: don't know Mar 31 17:44:19 well, quake also uses the PDL-lib Mar 31 17:45:46 hape_: "cast increases required alignment of target type" sound not that good Mar 31 17:45:57 s/sound/sounds Mar 31 17:59:03 Vote early, vote often: http://blog.laptopmag.com/march-smart-phone-madness-game-13-palm-pre-plus-vs-htc-hd2 (will repost no more frequently than once an hour) Mar 31 18:01:20 nt4cats: nice :) Mar 31 18:02:11 haha how does a windows phone even get to the point of being compared to a webos phone? Mar 31 18:02:37 i mean seriously... i could have never used the pre and the windows phone could have 2x the specs and im still going to vote for the linux phone because i know how terrible windows mobile is Mar 31 18:02:41 haha Mar 31 18:03:20 haha 85% voted for the pre Mar 31 18:03:27 shocker! Mar 31 18:03:33 * loot- makes the ron jeremy gang sign Mar 31 18:05:41 * nt4cats googled for ron jeremy gang sign and didn't find it. There was an interesting article entitled World's biggest gang bang (hosted by Ron Jeremy) on Wikipedia, however. Mar 31 18:05:43 I'm surprised, the hd2 was incredibly popular I thought Mar 31 18:05:57 chrisa / loot-: the poll is very new. Mar 31 18:10:01 how to tell sdl in WIDK about the libs you have? Mar 31 18:10:13 it only shows me -lSDL Mar 31 18:15:16 nt4cats: haha the ron jeremy gang sign Mar 31 18:15:23 is his "signature move" Mar 31 18:15:25 haha Mar 31 18:15:47 thumbs up? Mar 31 18:16:04 http://www.mohammadi.ca/media/1/20080815-shocker-35838.jpg Mar 31 18:16:06 ^ Mar 31 18:16:27 http://www.hollow-hill.com/sabina/images/the-shocker.jpg Mar 31 18:16:28 ^ Mar 31 18:16:29 lol Mar 31 18:16:49 anyone here use ez-ipupdate? Mar 31 18:27:23 morning Mar 31 18:28:08 ..has broken... Mar 31 18:30:32 like the first morning Mar 31 18:31:18 Blackbird has spoken, like the first bird ... Mar 31 18:34:17 * Mousey thinks . o O ( raven? ) Mar 31 18:34:53 http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/239179-mozilla-qt-webos.html :) Mar 31 18:36:09 is it easy to port qt apps to webos? Mar 31 18:36:29 Metbo: someone ported the QT demo apps to webos in a number of hours, I believe. Mar 31 18:36:35 as i heard, yes Mar 31 18:36:49 did you see the qt demos, metbo (they are in preware) Mar 31 18:36:55 and how ? ;) Mar 31 18:36:56 yes Mar 31 18:37:09 ask the one who ported those demos Mar 31 18:37:11 they are the reason why i post Mar 31 18:37:19 ok Mar 31 18:37:23 let me check if i can see his name Mar 31 18:38:00 Metbo: http://www.griffin.net/2010/02/qt-on-the-palm-pre.html Mar 31 18:38:06 http://www.griffin.net/2010/02/qt-on-the-palm-pre.html Mar 31 18:38:10 dang, beat me to it :) Mar 31 18:38:51 thanks Mar 31 18:39:58 If swissy is a tomcat, I'm a F18 Mar 31 18:41:12 yeah, i'm getting old in the tooth Mar 31 18:41:13 grr i need his email :/ Mar 31 18:41:36 and i cant find his email on the website Mar 31 18:41:55 blog@griffin.net Mar 31 18:42:27 but is this the email of the developer? Mar 31 18:42:43 i can try .. Mar 31 18:43:13 Metbo: yes, I think so. I am 97.1248% sure I've seen someone claiming to be the "I ported QT to webOS" guy here on this channel, too. Mar 31 18:43:43 nice Mar 31 18:44:46 it would be awesome if it easy to port firefox qt to webos :) :) Mar 31 18:45:09 Metbo: are you unhappy with webOS's webkit browser? Mar 31 18:45:42 not really Mar 31 18:45:59 but a second browser would be cool Mar 31 18:47:08 i'm pretty sure is saw him on here too Mar 31 18:47:24 Metbo: if you want to be totally stalker-ish, look at the archive for this channel for the day the "QT ported to webOS" story ran and I think you'll see his irc handle Mar 31 18:48:38 yes, first ill send him an email Mar 31 18:48:56 1.4.1 here 1.4.1 there Mar 31 18:49:02 * en0x does a happy dance Mar 31 18:49:22 en0x: if you're lying I am going to find you and drown you Mar 31 18:49:32 1.4.1 popped up in Holland Mar 31 18:49:41 Holland, PA? Mar 31 18:49:48 nah Holland europe Mar 31 18:49:49 :P Mar 31 18:50:03 holland michigan Mar 31 18:50:04 lol Mar 31 18:50:15 Update: tomi666 notes it a very small update, only 6mb from 1.4 to 1.4.1. Mar 31 18:50:26 only 6mb :( Mar 31 18:50:27 really? Mar 31 18:50:47 swisstomcat, well don't forget that webos has binary patching so thats why it's so small Mar 31 18:51:06 without binary patching it would probably be like 30-50mb Mar 31 18:51:07 i thought 1.4.1 would be bigger with all the bugs fixed Mar 31 18:51:07 :D Mar 31 18:51:09 swisstomcat: are you in Europe (e.g. Swissland or Swissberg or whatever)? Mar 31 18:51:20 * swisstomcat is in switzerland Mar 31 18:51:21 bug fixes my ass Mar 31 18:51:22 :) Mar 31 18:51:36 probably they just brought paid apps with 1.4.1 :D Mar 31 18:51:41 Switzerland is next to Argentina, right? Mar 31 18:51:53 nah, switzerland is where sweden is Mar 31 18:52:01 ahh, I see, thanks Mar 31 18:52:07 lol Mar 31 18:52:15 or is the other way around? Mar 31 18:52:25 * swisstomcat starts google maps .. ah, here i am Mar 31 18:52:37 it's next to germany apparently Mar 31 18:53:01 lol u both fail :P Mar 31 18:53:38 * en0x is launching updates app Mar 31 18:54:02 nada :( Mar 31 18:54:08 en0x: please provide your address and a time it would be convenient for me to stop by and hold your head under water for 7-12 minutes Mar 31 18:54:48 nt4cats, sure come to washington, dc to white house... knock on the door and ask for en0x they will find me ;) Mar 31 18:55:41 en0x: are you in the DC area (I grew up in the DC area)? Mar 31 18:55:52 * nt4cats went to high school in DC ... Mar 31 18:56:31 * nt4cats has heard that the Secret Service doesn't have a very well-developed sense of humor regarding threats of bodily harm and the White House ... Mar 31 18:58:01 no i'm not in dc area nt4cats Mar 31 18:58:01 ;P Mar 31 18:58:21 lol Mar 31 18:58:23 i am Mar 31 18:58:25 :P Mar 31 18:59:02 i saw military helicopters flying humvee's into DC yesterday Mar 31 18:59:08 it was interesting consider the president is in afghanistan Mar 31 18:59:12 considering* Mar 31 18:59:38 well he don't need humvee in afghanistan Mar 31 18:59:38 ;D Mar 31 18:59:42 loot-: I lived in Gaithersburg, MD 1980-1989 and went to high school at St. John's College HS (in NW DC) Mar 31 19:00:10 nice i lived in gaithersburg a few years ago Mar 31 19:00:16 i live in alexandria now Mar 31 19:00:23 black helicopters are on the way to nt4cats location .. they hear you everywhere Mar 31 19:00:41