**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 06 02:59:58 2010
Jul 06 03:00:18 <muesli> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions <- oops, broken
Jul 06 03:02:15 <rwhitby> muesli: you should follow @webosinternals on twitter for server status updates
Jul 06 03:02:33 <muesli> rwhitby: i do, must have missed the tweet tho
Jul 06 03:02:40 <rwhitby> muesli: the answer is "probably not"
Jul 06 03:02:44 <muesli> does someone have a webos doctor 1.4.5 link for me?
Jul 06 03:02:54 <rwhitby> which carrier?
Jul 06 03:02:57 <muesli> o2 gsm
Jul 06 03:02:59 <rwhitby> and device
Jul 06 03:03:07 <muesli> palm pre (no plus)
Jul 06 03:03:22 <rwhitby> http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/pre/p145r0d06302010/eudep145rod/webosdoctorp100ueu-wr.jar
Jul 06 03:03:31 <muesli> rwhitby: ta!
Jul 06 03:05:28 <datafirm> anyone have a link to MetaDoctor? wiki is down
Jul 06 03:06:18 <rwhitby> http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=tools/meta-doctor.git;a=summary
Jul 06 03:10:27 <datafirm> rwhitby: thanks, how do I get the whole tree?  I tried to clone, but did not work.  Or alternatively the compiled jar
Jul 06 03:10:57 <rwhitby> datafirm: clone should work, what URL were you using?
Jul 06 03:11:15 <datafirm> the one you sent.. maybe I have to pick the branch url?
Jul 06 03:12:40 <rwhitby> git://git.webos-internals.org/tools/meta-doctor.git
Jul 06 03:18:03 <datafirm> thanks
Jul 06 03:34:20 <muesli> is there an uberkernel for 1.4.5 yet?
Jul 06 03:48:10 <datafirm> hello
Jul 06 03:48:16 <datafirm> muesli: yes, there should be.
Jul 06 03:48:35 <datafirm> is there any documentation on the features one can enable in the meta-doctor?
Jul 06 03:48:56 <datafirm> ie INSTALL_WIFI_PROFILES, INSTALL_SSH_AUTH_KEYS etc?  I was not sure what they are all used for.
Jul 06 03:50:29 <datafirm> durr.
Jul 06 03:50:34 <datafirm> its in the top of the file. :)
Jul 06 03:54:43 <rwhitby> muesli: there is one in the testing feed.  no 1.4.5 sources from palm yet
Jul 06 03:55:07 <rwhitby> datafirm: you can also see the features that I use in there too :)
Jul 06 03:55:35 <datafirm> rwhitby: I saw that.. reading the makefile now.
Jul 06 03:56:01 <datafirm> :)
Jul 06 03:56:17 <datafirm> how many modem updates have their been?
Jul 06 03:56:22 <datafirm> is there a way to check the baseband?
Jul 06 03:57:14 <Tman> rwhitby: Everything builds for armv6 now. Looks like there's still some work to be done before we can create a rootfs for i686
Jul 06 03:59:17 <Tman> rwhitby: it would be viable to merge back into master however. everyone would have to clobber-armv7 when we did, but not when we added i686. and we can build armv6 by default or not, idc
Jul 06 03:59:55 <ka6sox> wiki back online
Jul 06 04:00:08 <Tman> !
Jul 06 04:00:12 <Tman> did that tool work for you?
**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 06 08:26:14 2010
Jul 06 08:26:15 <ka6sox> Ugly But Effective.
Jul 06 08:26:33 <cryptk> Robi_ pointed it out, I just confirmed it
Jul 06 08:26:41 <ka6sox> oh right!
Jul 06 08:26:44 <ka6sox> Robi_, thanks!
Jul 06 08:27:14 <ka6sox> okay right now I need to see if things are really alive and what the condition of the controller is.
Jul 06 08:27:15 <cryptk> I am kinda upset I didn't think of it first, but once Robi_ pointed it out I had a EUREKA moment and I knew that was what you were looking for
Jul 06 08:27:35 <cryptk> hopefully it picked up the SMART errors on the drive and pulled it from the array
Jul 06 08:27:42 <Robi_> you're welcome
Jul 06 08:27:51 <cryptk> if the array is showing as rebuilding then that is probaby what happened
Jul 06 08:27:57 <Robi_> cryptk: thanks for the company :>
Jul 06 08:28:04 <cryptk> np
Jul 06 08:28:04 * Robi_ out
Jul 06 08:29:01 <Robi_> you gotta make a cool twitter update btw
Jul 06 08:29:02 <cryptk> well, nslu2-log came back in, that is a good sign
Jul 06 08:29:13 <cryptk> indeed
Jul 06 08:29:15 <ka6sox> ya, and the BBU is still missing
Jul 06 08:29:27 <Robi_> <= @vRobM ;]
Jul 06 08:29:34 <Robi_> later
Jul 06 08:29:54 <ka6sox> so that means either the i2c is broken on the controller, the i2c is broken on the BBU or the Battery on the BBU is DEAD.
Jul 06 08:30:38 <ka6sox> dmesg
Jul 06 08:30:41 <ka6sox> heh
Jul 06 08:30:45 <ka6sox> too darned tired.
Jul 06 08:31:02 <cryptk> I vote dead battery
Jul 06 08:31:16 <cryptk> only because that would be the easiest to fix (and cheapest)
Jul 06 08:31:24 <ka6sox> cryptk I sure hope so!
Jul 06 08:31:26 <cryptk> isn't this server almost new
Jul 06 08:31:31 <ka6sox> yes
Jul 06 08:31:45 <cryptk> if it is a bad raid controller, what are the chances of a warrenty?
Jul 06 08:32:17 <ka6sox> how many days do you want to be offline, not able to get to preware?
Jul 06 08:32:40 <cryptk> preware is up on the backup I thought?
Jul 06 08:32:58 <rwhitby> not to get to wiki
Jul 06 08:33:00 <ka6sox> the icons are served up by the main server...20k/second
Jul 06 08:33:13 <ka6sox> rwhitby, ?
Jul 06 08:33:17 <rwhitby> cryptk, Robi_: thx for the assistance
Jul 06 08:33:24 <cryptk> np man
Jul 06 08:33:42 <rwhitby> wiki is up
Jul 06 08:33:45 <cryptk> as soon as I saw the twitters I figured maybe a sysadmin could help out
Jul 06 08:33:48 <ka6sox> in RW?
Jul 06 08:33:51 <rwhitby> gitweb is up
Jul 06 08:34:20 <cryptk> can you check the raid status? see if it is rebuilding or showing a failed member?
Jul 06 08:34:20 <rwhitby> home is writeable on webos
Jul 06 08:34:43 <ka6sox> cryptk, the only thing failed is the BBU.
Jul 06 08:34:47 <ka6sox> and its not talking.
Jul 06 08:35:00 <cryptk> ka6sox: I thought you said one of the disks is showing some SMART errors?
Jul 06 08:35:15 <ka6sox> yes, munin is reporting that.
Jul 06 08:35:15 <cryptk> or was it just a higher than normal error rate?
Jul 06 08:35:22 <ka6sox> 2X
Jul 06 08:35:30 <cryptk> ahh
Jul 06 08:35:39 <ka6sox> 2X spikes
Jul 06 08:35:52 <ka6sox> but it didn't reach CRIT.
Jul 06 08:35:57 <cryptk> ahh, that could have been caused by the bad controller, not necessarially the disk
Jul 06 08:36:07 <cryptk> (or a bad cable)
Jul 06 08:36:32 <ka6sox> cryptk, right, thats why its still an UNK as to what the total solution is.
Jul 06 08:36:37 <cryptk> yeah
Jul 06 08:36:46 <ka6sox> but I'm going to buy a battery tommorrow.
Jul 06 08:37:01 <cryptk> that would be the cheapest solution
Jul 06 08:37:05 <ka6sox> yep
Jul 06 08:37:12 <cryptk> I like to start with the cheap fixes
Jul 06 08:37:17 <ka6sox> and if that fixes it then I'm happy.
Jul 06 08:37:27 <cryptk> if not, then get some duct tape
Jul 06 08:37:30 <cryptk> that fixes everything
Jul 06 08:37:44 <ka6sox> but the problem now is that the i2c bus that talks to the BBU isn't seeing anything.
Jul 06 08:37:58 <ka6sox> the diags are reporting that.
Jul 06 08:38:00 <cryptk> but you can talk to the i2c?
Jul 06 08:38:12 <cryptk> seems like a dead battery
Jul 06 08:38:17 <ka6sox> its a register on the card...thru the PCIe
Jul 06 08:38:21 <cryptk> (or more properly, a failed battery)
Jul 06 08:38:45 <cryptk> the batteries don't just go dead, they are recharged, if they die it is because they failed
Jul 06 08:39:02 <ka6sox> I suppose I could read thru the code but then I'd have to figure out PCIe offsets etc.
Jul 06 08:39:05 <cryptk> or because they are old (which is still technically them failing)
Jul 06 08:39:23 <cryptk> yeah, no need for that... all the signs point to a failed battery
Jul 06 08:39:50 <ka6sox> we always loved it when the batteries would fail OPEN on the satellites...but a Shorted Battery = DEATH.
Jul 06 08:40:06 <cryptk> on the upside it seems your raid controller is allowing writes without a battery (some don't)
Jul 06 08:40:20 <ka6sox> its only to enable write caching
Jul 06 08:40:27 <cryptk> yes
Jul 06 08:40:54 <ka6sox> rwhitby, don't count our chickens yet.
Jul 06 08:41:02 <cryptk> so if it is a failed battery that means that the server would be fully operational now (just not as safe for the data if there is a power failure)
Jul 06 08:41:06 <rwhitby> ok, let's hope this holds for the rumoured 1.4.5 for US in the next few days
Jul 06 08:41:06 <ka6sox> and tweet that we are alive.
Jul 06 08:41:36 <cryptk> is there any kind of load balancer to where you can pipe some of the traffic to the main server?
Jul 06 08:41:40 <ka6sox> rwhitby, I can assure you that it will be off in the AM.
Jul 06 08:41:44 <cryptk> to kind of run it through it's paces?
Jul 06 08:42:01 <ka6sox> cryptk, it *all* goes there.
Jul 06 08:42:09 <ka6sox> for 6 projects.
Jul 06 08:42:26 <cryptk> I meant for the preware feeds... those are on the backup atm right?
Jul 06 08:42:35 <ka6sox> yes
Jul 06 08:42:49 <cryptk> yes, those are what I was talking about load balancing
Jul 06 08:42:55 <ka6sox> but I think we can see enough traffic.
Jul 06 08:42:58 <cryptk> I know the wiki and such is only on the main server
Jul 06 08:43:20 <ka6sox> we took the rotator out till things stablilize.
Jul 06 08:43:59 <cryptk> ahh
Jul 06 08:44:18 <ka6sox> okay so far (knock on wood) no errors.
Jul 06 08:44:22 <rwhitby> ka6sox: varnish does seem to be running on ipkg3 machine
Jul 06 08:44:41 <ka6sox> he wouldn't have permitted us to use it without varnish working :D
Jul 06 08:45:51 <cryptk> I am assuming "he" is the person in control of the servers?
Jul 06 08:46:10 <rwhitby> cryptk: the backup server, yes
Jul 06 08:46:26 <cryptk> ahh, does the backup server usually have some other purpose?
Jul 06 08:46:45 <rwhitby> it doesn't have unlimited traffic/bandwidth like the main server
Jul 06 08:46:53 <cryptk> ahh
Jul 06 08:47:00 <ka6sox> its a project members personal webserver. and is limited by RAM.
Jul 06 08:47:01 <cryptk> well, whoever
Jul 06 08:47:11 <cryptk> whoever "he" is, tell him thanks!
Jul 06 08:47:14 <cryptk> ahh
Jul 06 08:47:33 <rwhitby> he's the silent partner of the sysadmin team :)
Jul 06 08:48:02 <cryptk> hrm.... I just had the thought of setting up a distributed cluster to run webos-internals and the preware feeds, lol
Jul 06 08:48:06 <rwhitby> he and ka6sox have been keeping machines running for projects I've been involved with for over 6 years now
Jul 06 08:48:15 <cryptk> imagine some kind of file sharing to host the packages, lol
Jul 06 08:48:21 <cryptk> nice
Jul 06 08:48:38 <cryptk> well, ka6sox tell him that I think he is pretty awesome
Jul 06 08:48:53 <ka6sox> I will do that ...when he returns to the planet.
Jul 06 08:48:59 <cryptk> hahaha
Jul 06 08:49:16 <cryptk> so now the project is either being run by an alien... or an astronaut...
Jul 06 08:49:29 <cryptk> I vote alien
Jul 06 08:49:29 <rwhitby> in his day job, he saves countries from tsunami
Jul 06 08:49:39 <cryptk> ahh, a superhero then
Jul 06 08:49:45 <ka6sox> yep.
Jul 06 08:49:47 <cryptk> or is it the Dos Equis guy?
Jul 06 08:49:57 <cryptk> the "most interesting man in the world"
Jul 06 08:50:30 <cryptk> he is just like Chuck Norris, only without the roundhouse kicks...
Jul 06 08:51:01 <cryptk> rwhitby: did you hear I got a ventrilo connection on the pre the other day?
Jul 06 08:51:19 <cryptk> I know you were on when i was working on it, but I don't know if you were on when I got it finally working
Jul 06 08:51:32 <rwhitby> cryptk: yeah, saw it.  waiting for it to appear in the widk repo ;)
Jul 06 08:52:08 <cryptk> yep, been busy the las couple of days, but I am going to work on getting libventrilo3 in there along with the jukebox code I used to prove it works
Jul 06 08:52:33 <cryptk> once that gets in there then it should be pretty easy to wrap it into a service and build a front end for it
Jul 06 08:52:55 <cryptk> I was amazed tha even geist chimed in when I got it working to say something
Jul 06 08:53:04 <cryptk> makes me wonder if he was silently watching the whole time...
Jul 06 08:53:12 <rwhitby> I need to get back to my openvpn service too, now that I have a Pre Plus and can spare the RAM to keep it running all the time
Jul 06 08:53:21 <rwhitby> cryptk: he is a watcher, that geist
Jul 06 08:53:39 <cryptk> indeed, it was kinda creepy how he just said "cool" and nothing else...
Jul 06 08:53:42 <cryptk> lol
Jul 06 08:54:04 <cryptk> I can picture him at work with a screen that shows this IRC at all times
Jul 06 08:54:32 <rwhitby> but right now I need to fix a Motorola T505 that had the warranty rejected cause the USB power connector came off the PCB.
Jul 06 08:54:47 <cryptk> rwhitby: I have heard that people are having fewer TMC errors on stock kernel 1.4.5, wonder if they did anything or if it is just the normal (feels like it runs better) that we get with every OTA
Jul 06 08:54:57 <cryptk> is there new kernel source out yet?
Jul 06 08:55:11 <rwhitby> cryptk: I suspect LunaSysMgr is giving back memory better
Jul 06 08:55:31 <rwhitby> but haven't looked at anything to confirm
Jul 06 08:55:36 <cryptk> I really would live to see Palm integrate compcache into the stock kernel...
Jul 06 08:55:41 <cryptk> s/live/love/
Jul 06 08:55:42 <infobot> cryptk meant: I really would love to see Palm integrate compcache into the stock kernel...
Jul 06 08:56:01 <cryptk> especially with all the excellent results we have gotten so far
Jul 06 08:56:08 <ka6sox> no kernel packages yet
Jul 06 08:56:51 <rwhitby> I should probably push the 1.4.5 kernel. it's been working for me for a couple of days now
Jul 06 08:57:08 <rwhitby> (the 1.4.1 kernel repackaged for 1.4.5)
Jul 06 08:57:28 <cryptk> I need to get with zsoc or someone that knows alot about accessing the mic on the pre to try and get a ventrilo broadcast other than an mp3
Jul 06 08:58:05 <cryptk> if we can broadcast from the mic, then I will say that it is truely functional
Jul 06 08:58:45 <cryptk> best part is we have all the sample code we need on how to sue libventrilo from the mangler source code... gotta love GPL software
Jul 06 08:59:00 <cryptk> s/sue/use/
Jul 06 08:59:00 <infobot> cryptk meant: best part is we have all the sample code we need on how to use libventrilo from the mangler source code... gotta love GPL software
Jul 06 08:59:05 <cryptk> lol
Jul 06 08:59:32 <cryptk> brb, gotta switch laundry
Jul 06 09:02:12 * rwhitby bbl
Jul 06 09:04:11 <cryptk> welp, ka6sox I don't think there is much more that can be done for it tonight... lets hope that it holds together long enough to get a new controller in it (if needed)
Jul 06 09:04:33 <cryptk> but hopefully just the battery will fix all, time for me to go to bed
Jul 06 09:04:51 <cryptk> gl getting it all back up
Jul 06 09:04:55 <ka6sox> cryptk, thanks
Jul 06 09:05:01 <cryptk> np
Jul 06 09:05:04 <ka6sox> hopefully it *is* back up.
Jul 06 09:05:18 <cryptk> I am gonna keep an eye on the twitter just in case I see something I can help with
Jul 06 09:05:26 <ka6sox> thanks!
Jul 06 09:05:33 <cryptk> np
Jul 06 09:05:54 <cryptk> if you run into any big stops jsut twitter it up and hopefully I (or someone else) will have a solution
Jul 06 10:45:26 <john___> hello
Jul 06 10:46:18 <john___> I installed virtual keyboard and when I try to remove it I get failed to remove
Jul 06 14:42:39 <NachoB> egaudet: you there?
Jul 06 14:46:14 <egaudet_work> hi
Jul 06 14:46:38 <NachoB> Believe I found a problem with KeyBoss, at least for me. Read here: http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2541289#post2541289
Jul 06 14:47:30 <NachoB> Also read here: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/230248-wallpaper-resets-after-reset.html
Jul 06 14:50:50 <egaudet_work> do you see the same behavior with only KeyBoss and no uinput?
Jul 06 14:52:13 <NachoB> I have tried that yet, standby and I'll switch em up.
Jul 06 14:52:19 <NachoB> I haven't, sorry
Jul 06 15:13:35 <NachoB> egaudet: experience same issue with only KeyBoss installed, after initial reboot the wallpaper and ringtone revert to default.
Jul 06 15:17:13 <egaudet_work> hmm interesting
Jul 06 15:18:07 <NachoB> Yeah, strange behavior
Jul 06 15:19:59 <NachoB> rrob13 in the second thread I posted reporting that Sym key didn't work with KeyBoss installed. Working after uninstalling KeyBoss
Jul 06 15:20:12 <NachoB> I'm going to test that now.
Jul 06 15:33:04 <NachoB> egaudet: not experiencing the Sym issue with only KeyBoss installed.
Jul 06 16:45:36 <egaudet_work> alright I know what the sym issue is now
Jul 06 16:47:21 <egaudet_work> sym is coming in with scancode above the range of keys that uinput is being set up to accept, that will be an easy fix
Jul 06 16:47:31 <NachoB> I did experience the Sym issue after actually running KeyBoss.
Jul 06 16:47:59 <egaudet_work> now for the wallpaper, does it happen only with custom wallpaper?
Jul 06 16:48:09 <egaudet_work> what device, kernel, webos version have you seen it on
Jul 06 16:49:03 <NachoB> No, I've tried both both custom and Palm installed wallpapers and ringtones, they reset each time with KeyBoss. Sprint Pre, WebOS 1.4.1.1, F105 -69
Jul 06 16:49:39 <egaudet_work> does this happen with uberkernel or palm stock kernel?
Jul 06 16:50:16 <NachoB> Yes for stock kernel, didn't try with Uber.
Jul 06 16:50:47 <egaudet_work> and you simply reboot with orange+sym+r
Jul 06 16:50:57 <NachoB> correct
Jul 06 16:51:19 <NachoB> Luna Restart doesn't produce the problem, only a reboot
Jul 06 18:00:49 <NachoB> egaudet: I'm back if you had any further questions.
Jul 06 18:03:27 <ka6sox> Morning.
Jul 06 18:05:57 <ka6sox> Alt+SysRq+b FTW!
Jul 06 18:07:35 <halfhalo_pre> lies
Jul 06 18:21:11 <egaudet_work> NachoB: I think the sym bug is related to the wallpaper
Jul 06 18:21:47 <egaudet_work> I rebooted with my testing version (with sym fix) and kept my background, installed the current version (with sym bug) and got reverted after reboot
Jul 06 18:22:24 <egaudet_work> I'll do more testing tonight, but my feeling now is that some scancode that is currently not being allowed into the uinput device is needed for the wallpaper
Jul 06 18:22:34 <egaudet_work> thanks for the testing and report
Jul 06 18:23:31 <NachoB> Glad to do it, and great that you're making progress on it!
Jul 06 18:23:52 <NachoB> Oh, did you also check your ringtone, did it change on you as well?
Jul 06 18:37:29 <pop_tartz> anyone actually on?  i'm having a problem setting up optware
Jul 06 19:17:21 <Audemars02> hey guys...i want to update the save/restore app data on git...  are all the servers working ok now to do that, or should i still hold off on updating?
Jul 06 19:58:38 <Audemars02> hmm..will try again: i  want to update the save/restore app data on git...  are all the servers working ok now to do that, or should i still hold off on updating?
Jul 06 20:32:09 <PuffTheMagic> i wonder if 1.4.5 is going to come out before Aug
Jul 06 20:40:21 <egaudet_work> lol
Jul 06 20:41:52 <ka6sox-work> lol!
Jul 06 20:42:27 <halfhalo_class> pie?
Jul 06 21:33:16 <agroman> from my terminal I'm unable to do "ipkg-opt install sudo".  I'm getting a network timeout.  running "telnet ipkg.nslu2-linux.org 80" times out too.  however, I can connect to it using the web browser.   :\
Jul 06 21:44:57 <agroman> anyone around?
Jul 06 21:46:32 <ka6sox-work> agroman, did you do an ipkg-opt update first?
Jul 06 21:46:42 <agroman> yes
Jul 06 21:47:12 <agroman> strangely, it's not giving any errors.
Jul 06 21:47:38 <ka6sox-work> do you have additional :"users" on your pre?
Jul 06 21:53:07 <ka6sox-work> agroman, do you have additional users on your pre
Jul 06 22:04:12 <agroman> not yet.
Jul 06 22:04:13 <agroman> :)
Jul 06 22:04:48 <agroman> I have added a user, but I'm setting it up.  I'm logged in as root right now attempting to install sudo.
Jul 06 22:07:31 <agroman> ka6sox-work: getting connection timeouts when ipkg forks wget,  `wget --passive-ftp    -q -P /opt/ipkg-S7YtbP http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/optware/cs08q1armel/cross/unstable/sudo_1.7.3-1_arm.ipk'
Jul 06 22:08:56 <agroman> ran wget manually without options for the URL (which would put that file in my cwd, /var/home/root) and it's timing out.  however, connecting to that url with the pre's browser works.
Jul 06 22:11:35 <agroman> oh!
Jul 06 22:11:57 <agroman> it's redirecting to ipkg2.nslu2-linux.org -- which I cannot connect to.
Jul 06 22:16:22 <ka6sox-work> agroman, try now
Jul 06 22:17:43 <halfhalo_class> you broke ze servers again, eh?
Jul 06 22:18:18 <ka6sox-work> halfhalo_class, don't mess with me man...
Jul 06 22:18:43 * halfhalo_class goes and hides in ze corner
Jul 06 22:20:25 <ka6sox-work> "I can still see you" </gir>
Jul 06 22:20:52 * halfhalo_class stabs	ka6sox-work in the eyes
Jul 06 22:20:52 <agroman> excellent.  itsa workin.  thanks!
Jul 06 22:20:55 <halfhalo_class> how bout now?
Jul 06 22:21:22 <ka6sox-work> ~lart halfhalo_class
Jul 06 22:21:22 * infobot holds halfhalo_class to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails
Jul 06 22:21:51 * halfhalo_class grabs an axe and dismantles infobot
Jul 06 22:22:20 <oilsworkn> infobot is axe-proof
Jul 06 22:22:33 <ka6sox-work> lol
Jul 06 22:23:28 <halfhalo_class> yes, but YOUR not!
Jul 06 22:23:51 * oilsworkn holds infobot between him and halfhalo wielding an axe
Jul 06 22:23:52 <oilsworkn> HA!
Jul 06 22:24:11 * ka6sox-work sends in infobot to do battle
Jul 06 22:24:18 * halfhalo_class starts throwing axes at oil with deadly accuracy
Jul 06 22:24:39 * halfhalo_class sticks a win 98 cd into infobot and boots him off it
Jul 06 22:24:59 * oilsworkn kills more marine life in the gulf, and blames it on halfhalo
Jul 06 22:25:19 <oilsworkn> oh shit, look at that giant halfhalo spill!
Jul 06 22:26:28 <halfhalo_class> weeeelll shucks
Jul 06 23:02:06 <BeeRad> New phone failed to be prgrammed. Bah. "Activation Failed"
Jul 06 23:15:50 <jhojho> ~seen chuqui
Jul 06 23:15:52 <infobot> chuqui <~chuqui@palm-64-28-152-131.palm.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 55d 4h 47m 16s ago, saying: 'definitely for the better, IMHO'.
Jul 06 23:42:47 <Mercury> ka6sox-work: So, things working at this point?
Jul 06 23:43:59 <ka6sox-work> Mercury, ya, so far...but I do want to talk some more about making things more stable.
Jul 06 23:44:41 <Mercury> ka6sox-work: Alright.
Jul 07 00:04:34 <ka6sox-work> Mercury, you still here?
Jul 07 00:11:17 <jhojho> bbl
Jul 07 00:13:17 <datafirm> hello
Jul 07 00:28:27 <datafirm> Working on a system patch.  Is there a best practices for testing this in the emulator?  ie, where are the system files for the emulator stored?  or do you guys tend to manage your test diff with preware?
Jul 07 00:29:35 <datafirm> or do we need to do all our testing on devices?
Jul 07 00:30:42 <ka6sox-work> datafirm, egaudet or rwhitby can probably answer that one best...wait till you see them.
Jul 07 00:30:57 <datafirm> ka6sox-work: ok. thanks
Jul 07 00:31:34 <datafirm> perhaps I just need to create my own local test feed and add taht to preware in my emulator.
Jul 07 00:46:24 <rwhitby> datafirm: I point the emulator at a test feed on the host that is running virtualbox
Jul 07 00:47:15 <datafirm> rwhitby: that is what I planned to do.
Jul 07 00:47:25 <datafirm> and as far as testing the patches before making a diff?
Jul 07 00:47:48 <rwhitby> datafirm: I do a second host-local network adapter for the emulator vm, and use it to connect to the host
Jul 07 00:48:04 <rwhitby> datafirm: I personally do very few patches
Jul 07 00:48:27 <datafirm> ok
Jul 07 00:48:39 <datafirm> I wanted to add a weather temp/icon to the top bar :)
Jul 07 00:50:25 <cryptk|wirc> rwhitby: hows the server holding out?
Jul 07 00:50:49 <ka6sox-work> so far so good.
Jul 07 00:55:59 <muesli> is there a PalmDatabase3.db reference somewhere?
Jul 07 00:58:27 <bpadalino> .schema ?
Jul 07 00:59:38 <muesli> bpadalino: obviously, yes. doesn't explain the bitmasks of various flags
Jul 07 00:59:47 <muesli> +, tho
Jul 07 00:59:50 <bpadalino> no it doesn't
Jul 07 01:09:38 <rwhitby> and there is not
Jul 07 01:22:25 <bpadalino> oh right .. there is no reference ..
Jul 07 01:22:26 <bpadalino> sorry
Jul 07 01:24:25 <Audemars02> hey everyone.  i have an update to saverestore...   going to update preware to push that out...anyone else making changes to preware?
Jul 07 01:27:11 <rwhitby> Audemars02: that's build.git, and it shouldn't matter
Jul 07 01:27:37 <rwhitby> Audemars02: they won't be touching saverestore/Makefile and git merges stuff trivially if they are in different files
Jul 07 01:28:09 <muesli> rwhitby: surely someone must have made an effort to decipher those values?! :-)
Jul 07 01:28:37 <rwhitby> muesli: if so, it would be on the wiki, cause everyone in the community is 100% diligent on recording stuff there ;)
Jul 07 01:29:42 <muesli> rwhitby: heh, in that case i might start an effort
Jul 07 01:53:12 <rwhitby> ~testing-feed
Jul 07 01:53:13 <infobot> methinks testing-feed is a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
Jul 07 01:54:08 <mikeiniowa> any chance i can get help with thunderchief install?
Jul 07 02:06:20 <Robi_> mounting /dev/mapper/store-root on / failed: device or resource busy
Jul 07 02:48:54 <Abyssul> Other than Mode Switcher, anyway to boot Switcharoo on startup?
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