**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jul 08 02:59:57 2010 Jul 08 03:00:06 raster: are you still working on something? it just seems like they have gone through 3 other OS paths already lol Jul 08 03:02:40 samsung is a big place Jul 08 03:03:12 u cant just sit and say "samsung" and assume that covers the whole company Jul 08 03:05:43 testest Jul 08 03:06:17 BOOM! Jul 08 03:06:38 halfhalo: Incomming! Jul 08 03:07:39 ha, it dont like you Jul 08 03:08:36 raster: i am an american, we aren't very smart Jul 08 03:09:08 * oil thinks zsoc should speak for himself Jul 08 03:10:12 test? Jul 08 03:10:32 fail Jul 08 03:10:43 no, i think it works Jul 08 03:11:38 testtest mentions oil Jul 08 03:11:41 !!!!! Jul 08 03:12:00 ok, how do i take screenshots on mac Jul 08 03:12:18 Cmd-shift-4 Jul 08 03:12:34 http://tinyurl.com/ddccsp Jul 08 03:13:11 what we really need, is a lmgtfy bot Jul 08 03:13:12 seriously Jul 08 03:13:12 oil: thumbsup. best site ever Jul 08 03:13:16 YES we do Jul 08 03:13:33 every message that ends with a ?, the bot just replied with a lmgtfy url Jul 08 03:13:37 ~google lmgtfy Jul 08 03:13:53 ~botslap Jul 08 03:13:54 Hey what was that for, rwhitby? Jul 08 03:14:08 ~botslap for not knowing Jul 08 03:14:16 lol Jul 08 03:15:45 rwhitby: http://i27.tinypic.com/2ns3wv6.jpg Jul 08 03:16:13 * oil sees his dot Jul 08 03:17:12 lies Jul 08 03:17:32 unless someone else is in central washington, lol Jul 08 03:17:43 no, its you Jul 08 03:17:45 * rwhitby wonders where his dot is Jul 08 03:17:57 it takes a while to pick up new people Jul 08 03:18:01 * oil sees one down under Jul 08 03:18:06 not his Jul 08 03:18:21 that's some dude with internet at Uluru Jul 08 03:18:28 Failed link, halfhalo (34.2942) or rwhitby (undefined) lacks coordinates. Jul 08 03:18:41 infobot just popped up though... Jul 08 03:18:43 rwhitby undefined? Jul 08 03:18:57 it hasn't grabbed his coordinates yet Jul 08 03:18:57 normally, yes. Jul 08 03:19:06 * oil wonders when this page is going to make it onto the internets so others can look at it Jul 08 03:19:15 give me a dot Jul 08 03:19:16 dot Jul 08 03:19:17 dot Jul 08 03:19:22 southern california is bombing oregon? Jul 08 03:19:32 oooh, the other way round makes much more sense Jul 08 03:19:32 no, thats the other way around Jul 08 03:19:36 ooh shiney Jul 08 03:19:38 lol Jul 08 03:19:53 I need a host to stick it Jul 08 03:20:04 aw not supported in ffox :( Jul 08 03:20:17 only safari 4 and chrome due to websockets Jul 08 03:20:46 well, they coulda used flash :p Jul 08 03:20:51 rwhitby: war.webos-internals.org? Jul 08 03:20:57 lol Jul 08 03:22:57 halfhalo, that can be arrainged. Jul 08 04:26:39 classic post on precentral: "anyone still monitoring this forum?" Jul 08 04:29:45 Hey guys Jul 08 04:30:03 anyone here to answer a quick question? Jul 08 04:30:10 ~ask Jul 08 04:30:10 ~ask Jul 08 04:30:11 Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. Jul 08 04:30:25 ~ask to ask? Jul 08 04:30:26 Don't ask to ask. Don't ask if anybody can help you with x. Just ask! Omit any irrelevant details. If nobody answers then we don't know or are busy for a few minutes. Wait and don't bug us. If you must ask again wait until new people have joined the channel. Jul 08 04:31:05 lol Jul 08 04:31:13 you scared him off Jul 08 04:31:21 I am browsing through the testing feeds on Preware, and I must admit I am LOVING Uber-Kernal. Am I overlooking F105 or has it been taken down already? Jul 08 04:33:19 I know, I know....boo this man. Jul 08 04:33:43 Cash: webos-kernels-testing Jul 08 04:34:51 I see. I guess I didn't have the appropriate feed entered. Jul 08 04:35:40 testing kernels are for testing only Jul 08 04:36:04 support may not exist and the kernel could eat your phone Jul 08 04:37:14 I am fully aware of all the dangers/etc, I promise. Jul 08 04:37:18 : ) Jul 08 04:40:13 Anyone else in here hate soccer? Or is this the inappropriate channel? ; ) Jul 08 04:41:12 soccer? whats that? Jul 08 04:41:26 futbol Jul 08 04:41:38 right. Jul 08 04:41:40 oh... Jul 08 04:41:45 never watch it.. Jul 08 04:41:50 goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooal!!! Jul 08 04:42:04 * oil buzzes vuvuzela Jul 08 04:42:23 * Anivrom thinks Cash should repent promptly for his remarks about football Jul 08 04:42:41 But I LOVE football....just not soccer. : ) Jul 08 04:42:58 the game where you actually use your foot Jul 08 04:42:59 http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Handegg Jul 08 04:43:03 spoken like a true yank Jul 08 04:43:05 wait till you see aussie rules. Jul 08 04:45:03 Ha @ hand egg Jul 08 05:07:03 wahahahaha Jul 08 05:07:16 ? Jul 08 05:07:56 wargames is working Jul 08 05:09:04 sweet Jul 08 05:10:11 maybe not Jul 08 05:10:26 no, i killed it Jul 08 05:10:32 ah Jul 08 05:20:59 boomshakalakalaka Jul 08 05:21:53 testy testy ka6sox-work Jul 08 05:42:46 missile to… prelocator! Jul 08 05:42:53 ahahahaaha! Jul 08 05:43:11 is it up? can I see it? Jul 08 05:43:57 yesish. The server works fine but the client is not up yet. temp client here: http://silentbluesystems.com/wargames/ Jul 08 05:45:18 meep Jul 08 05:45:36 awwww Jul 08 05:45:42 it doesn't like ipad Jul 08 05:46:06 test Jul 08 05:46:31 no good on pre, and my safari doesn't like it either Jul 08 05:46:59 try ours @ wargames.webos-internals.org Jul 08 05:48:03 not showing up on dns Jul 08 05:48:22 eventually I can get it running on all browsers, but thats a project for another day and requires me to replace its websocket server with another one tha tI use for my own apps Jul 08 05:48:48 halfhalo, okay thats your project, I want daily updates :D Jul 08 05:49:01 hah Jul 08 05:49:06 ka6sox-work: I too cannot resolve wargames Jul 08 05:49:53 for some reason its not showing you guys up in the chat log, and I know for a fact that the irc bot is getting the proper data to do that Jul 08 05:52:17 if i do it right, the client won't be affected besides working in all browsers Jul 08 05:52:23 halfhalo, don't worry ...when it figures it out it will find me off planet. Jul 08 05:53:04 ka6sox-work: are you spoofing Luna's IP block again? Jul 08 05:53:15 ssssssssssssh. Jul 08 05:53:27 its the ONLY IPV4 Space not in use! Jul 08 05:53:42 LOL Jul 08 05:55:10 looks like i still own 44.10.0.2 Jul 08 05:55:31 and 44.11.0.6 Jul 08 05:55:53 i own 127.0.0.1. /win Jul 08 05:56:14 *win Jul 08 05:56:29 * jacques DOSs 127.0.0.1 to annoy halfhalo Jul 08 05:56:50 * ka6sox-work ddos's 127.0.0.1 to annoy halfhalo Jul 08 05:57:18 have fun with that! Jul 08 05:57:31 * jacques is. Jul 08 05:57:38 * ka6sox-work too Jul 08 05:57:56 okay...lets see what was next on my list. Jul 08 05:58:02 ok, hold on, time to get wargames to show everyone in the log no matter what Jul 08 05:58:07 its pissing me off Jul 08 05:59:08 halfhalo, call me back when you figure it out. Jul 08 05:59:58 hi Jul 08 06:00:25 mawnin Jul 08 06:03:21 on second thought, that can wait till tomorrow Jul 08 06:03:34 to many emits for one day Jul 08 06:08:43 nite halfhalo Jul 08 06:09:03 night Jul 08 06:23:18 weee remote desktop just for irc, Jul 08 06:24:46 to bad i have to drop the res on my mac so much for it to be feasible Jul 08 06:25:30 does anybody remember where the information on what size of ram is in a particular slot is located? Jul 08 06:25:45 I've seen it before... Jul 08 06:26:25 …on the ram stick? Jul 08 06:26:31 :p Jul 08 06:26:54 need dark fibre from here to there so I can see. Jul 08 06:27:28 doitdoitdoit Jul 08 06:27:50 no multitasking suuuucks Jul 08 06:28:37 wheres a webos tablet when you need one Jul 08 06:33:53 duh....lshw FTW! Jul 08 06:35:26 duh Jul 08 06:35:45 soo…. how bout that earthwuake today? Jul 08 06:39:53 where? Jul 08 06:40:54 oh heck..thats just a teensy one. Jul 08 06:41:03 I didn't even feel it :P Jul 08 06:41:12 yeah. was fun tho Jul 08 06:42:07 wasn't even on the main fault :P Jul 08 06:43:45 true Jul 08 06:43:59 * ka6sox-work calls to see if borrego springs is still on the air. Jul 08 06:44:04 great way to end the day tho Jul 08 06:44:07 ha Jul 08 06:44:18 one ringy dingy Jul 08 06:44:40 yep....still alive... Jul 08 06:45:43 ha Jul 08 06:45:47 they lie Jul 08 06:46:16 their actally all dead Jul 08 06:46:29 nope, I heard it with my own ear. Jul 08 06:51:07 your dead Jul 08 06:52:52 so you say Jul 08 06:53:09 yes i do Jul 08 06:53:39 how do people put up qith this apple os crap... Jul 08 06:59:07 wooo Jul 08 06:59:20 got an ssh and vnc client set up on ipad Jul 08 08:27:29 anyone got an idea how i can edit a file in /etc on my palm without firing up a terminal / connecting via ssh? Jul 08 08:27:43 i tried internalz, but it doesn't seem to allow me to edit / rename / copy something to /etc Jul 08 08:35:12 ok, discovered novaterm :) Jul 08 08:35:26 are there logs of this channel somewher e? Jul 08 08:37:24 does anyone know why the qt example apps work when launched from the console, but not when tapping the icon? Jul 08 09:31:51 ~logs Jul 08 09:31:52 All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily Jul 08 09:39:22 hmm infobot is wrong Jul 08 09:40:42 no he is not http://ibot.rikers.org/%23webos-internals/ Jul 08 09:40:51 but there was an other one too Jul 08 11:48:28 muesli: due to jail Jul 08 11:48:43 hape: logs.nslu2-linux.org Jul 08 11:52:05 hey rwhitby Jul 08 11:52:19 hi Jul 08 11:52:25 phone has been up 2 days now without running into the TMC problem Jul 08 11:55:32 rwhitby: oh, that's a 1.4.1 or 1.4.5 change, right? Jul 08 11:55:40 yes Jul 08 11:55:47 1.4.5 Jul 08 11:55:55 right, thanks once again :) Jul 08 11:57:13 1.4.5 out yet on Sprint ? Jul 08 11:58:47 not that I've heard Jul 08 12:25:01 rwhitby: so to clarify. the jail prevents the app from finding the qt libs installed in a different dir? Jul 08 12:25:32 or can't the qt libs load because they are linked to other libs which can't be accessed from within the jail? Jul 08 12:27:04 hi, maybe we need some central storage that is visible from inside the jails where we can put libs. I have two candidates for that: espeak and speechd Jul 08 12:29:51 noradtux: how does the jail work exactly? Jul 08 12:30:00 chroot Jul 08 12:30:05 (i know about the general concept, but i'm curious which access it is preventing) Jul 08 12:30:10 chroot on the app dir? Jul 08 12:30:23 the create directories with mountpoints for each pdk-app under /var/palm/jail Jul 08 12:30:49 then they mount the stuff they want the app to see onto thse mountpoints Jul 08 12:31:03 i see. i'll just try an app and look at the mount table Jul 08 12:31:15 that should give me some insight Jul 08 12:31:49 yes Jul 08 12:32:18 or just chroot into such a jail after starting the application and look around Jul 08 12:33:25 yup just did Jul 08 12:34:17 so ok, it's obvious. since the qt libs are in cryptofs/apps/user/palm/applications/net.griffin.qt it won't be able to find them from within the jail Jul 08 12:34:41 exactly Jul 08 12:34:46 but Jul 08 12:34:55 you can access /media/internal. so a common dir in there would do Jul 08 12:35:01 yes Jul 08 12:35:04 noradtux: k, thanks for helping out Jul 08 12:35:50 what about /media/internal/.local/ ? Jul 08 12:36:30 sounds reasonable to me... .local/share .local/lib etc. then Jul 08 12:37:18 is rwhitby still here? Jul 08 13:27:49 ldd libfoobar segfaults on my palm... :/ Jul 08 13:29:05 weird... "which ldd" doesn't return anything Jul 08 13:32:00 since there are asterisk packages for the palm... is there any work on integrating a sip / voip client into the palm? Jul 08 13:32:52 +going on Jul 08 16:03:04 muesli: ldd is defined in /etc/profile: alias ldd='LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 LD_WARN=yes ' Jul 08 16:04:15 muesli: I think there is some SIP-stuff work in progress, the main problem is the fact that apps cannot access the microphone as far as I know Jul 08 16:27:19 burn baby burn Jul 08 16:29:37 yeah, I'm deff going to redo major swaths of the wargames app. Gonna make it log in the background, see everyone, and support multiple channels Jul 08 16:49:37 mmmmmmmm.... battery sucking wirc.... Jul 08 16:54:11 boomshakalakalaka Jul 08 16:55:40 *crickets* Jul 08 17:05:56 wirc doesn't suck batteries! your silly radio does :P Jul 08 17:09:31 mebe Jul 08 17:11:08 * RagingMind hasn't installed the new version of wirc yet because he's on Verizon :( Jul 08 17:11:19 ;( Jul 08 17:11:35 lol Jul 08 17:13:18 ok, broke down wargames to it's big components. hopefuly it won't be to bad to redo em all but one Jul 08 17:14:20 why are you redoing them? Jul 08 17:15:01 because I'm going to replace the websocket server/client with one with fallbacks Jul 08 17:15:31 and the irc bot with one that will see everyone, not just those it has coords for Jul 08 17:15:57 and make it multichannel on the backend Jul 08 17:16:58 the only hard part may be separating the ircmap class from everything else Jul 08 17:21:38 mostly I just want it to work on mah ipad. Jul 08 17:21:40 :p Jul 08 17:23:09 did the war thing get setup? Jul 08 17:23:17 yeah Jul 08 17:23:26 linkage? Jul 08 17:24:58 dunno if the client on webos-int is up yet but heres my temp ver: silentbluesystems.com/wargames/ Jul 08 17:33:13 well it certainly looks cool Jul 08 17:33:20 especially mouse-over to see who is what dot Jul 08 17:34:36 yeah Jul 08 17:37:30 egaudet is in the north-east apparently xD Jul 08 17:38:14 heh Jul 08 17:38:27 i take it mentioning someone is what makes the lines, halfhalo_pre? Jul 08 17:38:33 it doesn't see anyone that doesn't have an ip in their name Jul 08 17:38:35 and yeah Jul 08 17:38:52 no line :/ Jul 08 17:39:59 is my name in the list? Jul 08 17:42:04 hmmm. no idea why it didn't work Jul 08 17:42:24 and there are no logs for it :/ Jul 08 17:42:34 that's something else I'm gonna do Jul 08 17:42:46 testest oil_laptop Jul 08 17:44:09 halfhalo_pre, fail Jul 08 17:44:51 lines showing for me Jul 08 17:56:52 who what where Jul 08 17:59:51 lies Jul 08 18:26:13 egaudet_work, I have terminal acces now ( and enough power ) Jul 08 18:30:23 pastebin /usr/lib/luna/customization/locale.txt Jul 08 18:33:20 http://pastebin.com/0wP7AChH Jul 08 18:37:26 evening Jul 08 18:39:51 SimpsonTP: any experience with making an app? Jul 08 18:41:35 Jeez, can 1.4.5.1 hurry up/ Jul 08 18:41:43 Its been nearly a month delayed Jul 08 18:42:01 Although I do understand they ran into some serious bugs after releasing to unlocked units Jul 08 18:42:02 i wonder what'll be in it Jul 08 18:43:38 egaudet, I tried it once on the emulator Jul 08 18:43:48 SimpsonTP: qwertz or azerty kb? Jul 08 18:43:56 qwertz Jul 08 18:45:54 accented/ Jul 08 18:46:14 i have 1.4.5 already .. big deal ;) Jul 08 18:48:12 egaudet_work, what does that mean ? Jul 08 18:49:47 SimpsonTP: do you have the sdk installed? Jul 08 18:50:00 so that you can use palm-install? Jul 08 18:51:30 I have the eclipse environment Jul 08 18:51:51 yup I have palm install Jul 08 18:53:01 woawoawoa Jul 08 18:53:11 git is failing me right now Jul 08 18:54:57 SimpsonTP, uninstall vkb Jul 08 18:55:52 http://omploader.org/vNHZpbw get that test package and palm-install it Jul 08 18:57:37 then restart luna and tell me if vkb works Jul 08 18:57:39 ~slap halfhalo Jul 08 18:57:40 * infobot slaps halfhalo, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! Jul 08 18:58:05 ok, somethings up with wargames Jul 08 18:58:25 egaudet_work, that can take a while ? Jul 08 19:01:03 egaudet_work, 'Could not load configuration file kb_config.json try to reinstall the package titled VKB..... Jul 08 19:01:19 install it Jul 08 19:01:32 "VKB Default Themes and Configuration" Jul 08 19:02:29 tada Jul 08 19:02:32 okay works Jul 08 19:02:58 what fixed it ? Jul 08 19:04:14 Did you unisntall "VKB Default Themes and Configuration" before installing the test package i gave you? Jul 08 19:09:43 oh, mousey is in northwest Jul 08 19:10:19 ^_^ Jul 08 19:10:56 yeah, its having issues.... wth Jul 08 19:10:59 egaudet_work, earlier you mean ? yes, but since it didn't work I removed everything and had to do a fresh install Jul 08 19:11:01 seattle area? Jul 08 19:11:40 yep, seattle proper! Jul 08 19:11:40 SimpsonTP: OK so remove the test package (orange-tap remove will work) and then re-install the 1.4.5-7 VKB from preware patches feed and restart luna Jul 08 19:11:50 http://silentbluesystems.com/wargames/ Jul 08 19:12:11 chrome or safari only Jul 08 19:12:12 boo Jul 08 19:12:32 what are you using, ie? Jul 08 19:12:33 xD Jul 08 19:12:38 firefox Jul 08 19:12:46 4 beta = chrome clone, haha Jul 08 19:12:48 no ff support yet Jul 08 19:12:53 working on that stuff now Jul 08 19:12:59 ff 4 beta? Jul 08 19:13:15 ahh Jul 08 19:13:16 yeah Jul 08 19:13:18 reset the stupid timer Jul 08 19:13:23 STOP counting! noooooo Jul 08 19:13:27 they switched to tabs on top Jul 08 19:13:45 which is obviously a much better design, im glad they borrowed it Jul 08 19:13:48 all I need is ctrl-t and tabs can go wherever they want Jul 08 19:14:27 that's pretty cool (viewing it with chrome) Jul 08 19:15:06 now link it with google earth Jul 08 19:15:30 * oil has a feeling there will be a bunch of lines down to australia Jul 08 19:15:35 when everyone starts saying rwhitby: Jul 08 19:15:38 lol Jul 08 19:15:43 nope, shouldn't Jul 08 19:15:45 lines? Jul 08 19:15:46 I see no lines Jul 08 19:16:01 i see lines from SimpsonTP to egaudet/egaudet_work Jul 08 19:16:08 oh, now a line from me to SimpsonTP Jul 08 19:16:14 lines appear when you mention someone and it can find both people on the map Jul 08 19:16:21 now a line just drawn from oil to SimpsonTP Jul 08 19:16:24 it cant find rwhitby on the map? Jul 08 19:16:27 no Jul 08 19:16:31 lol Jul 08 19:16:32 its retarted Jul 08 19:16:37 oh now a line from me Jul 08 19:16:38 hence, the rewriting of it Jul 08 19:16:44 haha Jul 08 19:16:45 wtf are you guys talikng about ? Jul 08 19:16:52 france Jul 08 19:16:56 halfhalo_class: line, Mousey line, Jul 08 19:17:07 SimpsonTP: http://silentbluesystems.com/wargames/ Jul 08 19:17:10 only supports one person I think... Jul 08 19:17:31 and that link will go down as soon as the client on the internals server gets up Jul 08 19:17:37 missle to.... infobot! Jul 08 19:17:40 ahahahahaha Jul 08 19:17:41 lol Jul 08 19:17:58 egaudet_work, onw it works Jul 08 19:18:12 * oil bombs halfhalo_class Jul 08 19:18:14 setting up nodules for it on dev machine now Jul 08 19:18:21 aw Jul 08 19:18:28 see, issues Jul 08 19:18:35 lol Jul 08 19:19:04 and when i do /me it shouldn't say ACTION Jul 08 19:19:04 haha Jul 08 19:19:08 egaudet_work, it is not supposed to work everywhere ? Jul 08 19:19:12 SimpsonTP: then it was probably an issue with default themes and config package Jul 08 19:19:22 SimpsonTP: it works in all text fields Jul 08 19:19:22 what does the pointing finger on the right side of the VKB do? Jul 08 19:19:26 -should- Jul 08 19:19:27 I know... but i didn;t make this thing Jul 08 19:19:32 just set it up Jul 08 19:19:40 RagingMind: drag it up and down Jul 08 19:19:50 dammit halfhalo, your webpage sucks, haha Jul 08 19:19:53 egaudet_work, okay, it works in memo, but seems to fail in agenda Jul 08 19:19:55 egaudet_work, bingo :) Jul 08 19:19:58 AH Jul 08 19:20:10 hmmm Jul 08 19:20:21 agenda? Jul 08 19:20:25 swisstomcat is in switzerland? Jul 08 19:20:28 calendar Jul 08 19:20:38 what a shocker Jul 08 19:20:42 abyssul: surprise! Jul 08 19:21:07 egaudet_work: This page requires Websocket support. Please use Chrome or Safari. Jul 08 19:21:15 very cool Jul 08 19:21:18 who did the page? Jul 08 19:21:26 i would be more surprised if someone with swiss in their name wasn't from switzerland Jul 08 19:22:09 * Mousey tries in *blech* chrome Jul 08 19:22:33 works well with chrome Jul 08 19:22:53 5.0.375.99 (linux x64) Jul 08 19:23:14 SimpsonTP: submitted a ticket for it Jul 08 19:23:45 ah, raphael Jul 08 19:25:26 ooooh Jul 08 19:25:29 NUTS!!! Jul 08 19:25:37 where's santa barbara?! Jul 08 19:25:49 between lax and sfo Jul 08 19:25:50 somebody kick ka6sox Jul 08 19:26:10 no rwhitby either! Jul 08 19:26:18 * oil doesn't kick the guy keeping the servers up :) Jul 08 19:26:27 oh, i see Jul 08 19:26:37 aliased domains Jul 08 19:26:45 ~asl Jul 08 19:26:47 Old enough, yes please, my place. Jul 08 19:28:38 heh Jul 08 19:28:46 screen on my pre got busted a little Jul 08 19:29:01 i was charging it in my car and it got so hot that i could barely touch it Jul 08 19:29:17 now on the right side close to usb port the screen is whiter Jul 08 19:29:47 hello all. this is with VKB\n Jul 08 19:30:30 yup... the \ n doesn't show up on the pre, but is still there when I use the vkb for hitting return Jul 08 19:30:46 hm Jul 08 19:31:50 that's a feature Jul 08 19:32:09 no I'm kidding but that's interesting Jul 08 19:32:35 i see a bunch of stuff Jul 08 19:32:47 palm-webos-device user.debug jailer Jul 08 19:33:01 eh\n Jul 08 19:33:22 palm-webos-device user.debug jailer[7238]: exec(/media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.wirc/wirc,/media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/org.webosinternals.wirc/wirc 20 0) Jul 08 19:34:14 anyone else typing with vkb?\n Jul 08 19:39:32 the vkb inserts "\n" and then sends enter keydown/keyup, you can't see the \n in mojo Jul 08 19:40:14 I suppose that would be vkb's fault Jul 08 19:40:27 but we can blame oil for fun Jul 08 19:40:44 * oil shrugs off blame Jul 08 19:41:04 even typing /n and it doesn't show up Jul 08 19:41:14 \n Jul 08 19:41:38 Hey guys what's a good memlimit size for compcache in uberkernel? And could you roughly give me a 1 line just of its function? Jul 08 19:41:42 \n ? Jul 08 19:41:49 oops, hehe. apparently \r doesn't show in mojo either? Jul 08 19:42:19 oil, in xchat i see "\n ?" on my pre I see " ?" Jul 08 19:42:28 yeah Jul 08 19:43:12 Also is there any reason why it would 'crash' my phone when I enable it. Just booted up from that, first time I tried it Jul 08 19:49:25 there's not really a universal "good memlimit" Jul 08 19:50:57 when your device runs out of RAM, it goes to swap. Swap without compcache is the very slow Flash. compcache is compressed ram to use for swap, so you have to take away some of your available fast ram, to make available for faster-than-Flash swap Jul 08 19:52:19 that was more then a 1 line description of its function Jul 08 19:52:50 ffff pre Jul 08 19:53:31 pfffft, oil you need a wider screen Jul 08 19:53:48 * oil stretches xchat across all 3 monitors... Jul 08 19:53:48 \\n Jul 08 19:54:02 oil ^^ that's a wirc bug Jul 08 19:54:04 now its one line, haha Jul 08 19:54:13 * oil bets plugin problem HAHAHA Jul 08 19:54:15 I typed \n (\ with sym popup) Jul 08 19:54:34 but I'm using 1.4.1 wirc so Jul 08 19:54:47 so... service problem! Jul 08 19:54:58 lol Jul 08 19:55:36 i updated wirc to 3.0 and now i cant use it Jul 08 19:55:41 lol Jul 08 19:55:47 i wish there was "back" button in preware Jul 08 19:55:50 en0x: talk to PuffTheMagic Jul 08 19:55:51 [; Jul 08 19:56:13 and remember alpha testing feeds really can melt your device in your hand Jul 08 19:56:17 u should add "roll back to previous version" button in preware Jul 08 19:56:20 people using hte testing feed are expected to be able to read the description for what they're installing Jul 08 19:56:33 oil: i rread it :) Jul 08 19:56:37 PS: the wirc package in testing feed description has big red letters Jul 08 19:56:38 then you just fail Jul 08 19:56:48 but i just don;t have anything to do so I had to spit it out :p oil Jul 08 19:57:04 so you think that the package description was lying to you en0x ? Jul 08 19:57:18 nah i thought we get 1.4.5 on the 7th Jul 08 19:57:24 so i updated it yesterday Jul 08 19:57:25 :S Jul 08 19:57:25 "this text says 1.4.5 required, so i installed it on 1.4.1.1, that doesn't work?" Jul 08 20:00:07 and i just can't get past the ugly screen on my pre Jul 08 20:00:08 :S Jul 08 20:01:22 lol Jul 08 20:02:20 oil we could add the old wirc as wirc-legacy Jul 08 20:02:23 it is well know? that due heat from usb charging port the screen can go fuvbar? Jul 08 20:02:39 if the new wirc uses the pdk. does that mean it makes the processor go at 600? Jul 08 20:02:41 s/fuvbar/fubar Jul 08 20:02:47 old wirc is just... so bad Jul 08 20:02:56 lol Jul 08 20:03:13 RMind|moof: my proc runs at 800mhz all the time Jul 08 20:03:25 wirc legacy and wirc+ Jul 08 20:03:25 * oil goes back to work Jul 08 20:03:41 and it's at 45 degrees celsius Jul 08 20:03:42 ;d Jul 08 20:05:21 sound like a hot pocket Jul 08 20:19:06 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Jul 08 20:19:08 :p Jul 08 20:19:12 Got nodules working Jul 08 20:35:09 i saw there were server issues. i have hosting that i'm not using to capacity. can i be of service? Jul 08 20:37:05 there's a wirc 3.0? Jul 08 20:37:19 spriiiiiint where's the 1.4.5 update Jul 08 20:39:21 sweeeeet Jul 08 20:39:29 auto reloads on file save Jul 08 20:57:20 does anyone knows a way on how to remove sim contacts from pre? Jul 08 20:57:44 sim? Jul 08 20:58:08 yap Jul 08 21:01:31 people still use SIM contacts? Jul 08 21:01:54 Marajin: unfortunately Jul 08 21:04:47 ok, got a new pre, ran pre backup util restore, ran save/restore, what else? Jul 08 21:07:03 how is AUPT going to kick in the the patches Jul 08 21:08:04 save/restore, restore all your packages in preware and everything should be fine Jul 08 21:10:28 * oilsworkn points out that patches are the suck :) Jul 08 21:10:36 * oilsworkn is surprised there isn't more problems Jul 08 21:11:05 egaudet_work: run preware and re-get apps, ok i can do that any time, how are patches supposed to be reapplied? Jul 08 21:11:16 does preware app data maintain alist? Jul 08 21:11:33 ? Jul 08 21:11:40 the patches get re-applied when they are installed Jul 08 21:12:26 so i have to manually install 47 patches.. ugh Jul 08 21:12:39 Robi_: .... Jul 08 21:13:03 save/restore... restore package list, go in preware and go to saved package list and re-install them all in one tap (don't hit update) Jul 08 21:13:55 ooh i see, do an install all Jul 08 21:14:22 thank you, I didn't see that at the bottom in preware Jul 08 21:15:11 hm the saved package list says they're all green, as in installed Jul 08 21:15:13 install all does nothing Jul 08 21:15:35 47 patches? jeez Jul 08 21:16:08 you went to save/restore and restored Jul 08 21:16:11 and then they are all green? Jul 08 21:16:49 yes Jul 08 21:17:17 iiinnnnteresting... Jul 08 21:17:17 tap on one and it gives you optino to remove? Jul 08 21:17:38 I think I broke the geoip thing Jul 08 21:17:41 admittedly I haven't looked at save/restore and saved package list stuff much Jul 08 21:18:08 egaudet_work: yes, launch and remove Jul 08 21:19:05 and launch works Jul 08 21:19:37 oh you said you used backup utiltiy Jul 08 21:20:03 I have no idea how backup utility works. Does it restore your entire rootfs so all the patches are applied already and you just need to restart luna Jul 08 21:20:28 dont know yet, i'l restart the pre and see what happens Jul 08 21:26:18 night everyone Jul 08 21:27:47 rwhitby: have you taken a look at arch branch yet? Jul 08 21:34:38 egaudet_work: ok so i rebooted, now in preware, looking at the saved package list, it's much shorter Jul 08 21:37:10 install all fails with -1 unknown url Jul 08 21:37:38 update button repopulated the list with a ton of stuff like there was last time before the reboot Jul 08 21:39:50 morning Jul 08 21:42:45 I'm working on an interface to YACAS [Yet Another Computer Algebra System] Jul 08 21:43:32 Right now I only have command line IO and very basic TEX output.. Jul 08 21:45:29 someone has suggestions for the interface? Pointing me to examples would help Jul 08 21:45:47 Robi_: update button is going to update with what is installed Jul 08 21:45:53 If you are restoring, do not hit update Jul 08 21:46:09 and since you used backup utility already, I don't know what state you are in as I don't know what it backs up and restores Jul 08 21:46:21 ya i figured that Jul 08 21:46:33 no patches are back afaik Jul 08 21:49:18 then backup utility just restored the package data Jul 08 21:49:47 you can run ESE to re-run all the package postinsts I guess Jul 08 22:05:34 ok, got most of the building blocks setup Jul 08 22:06:14 dns lookup, irc client, irc bot, ws server all work. Their not tied together yet, bu they work Jul 08 22:32:39 30min-1hr outage of the server to fix the server. Jul 08 22:32:50 (final fix) Jul 08 22:36:45 it broke again? :/ Jul 08 22:36:53 i blame ohio Jul 08 22:37:39 ka6sox-work: I know how nodules works now. Its actually really nice Jul 08 22:44:19 kewl... Jul 08 22:44:22 back in a bit Jul 08 22:44:33 kk **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 08 22:47:23 2010 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 09 00:18:14 2010 Jul 09 00:19:15 look who's back! Jul 09 00:19:45 oh snap, it found its location. Jul 09 00:28:55 folks Jul 09 00:29:04 * bhuey wonders when the Sprint update will be released Jul 09 00:30:21 Never Jul 09 00:47:17 I'm still waiting :( Jul 09 00:48:59 I need a terminal on my phone Jul 09 00:50:32 looking for tacos Jul 09 00:56:50 hey the WWE, err NBA special is on tonight Jul 09 00:58:19 egaudet: no patch love, had to yank em again Jul 09 01:05:43 I love that video that WebOS Internals tweeted Jul 09 01:38:36 does the war thing work on the pres browser? Jul 09 01:41:03 doubt it since iirc the pre browser does not support websockets Jul 09 01:41:47 kill -9 init Jul 09 01:42:17 ? Jul 09 01:58:45 hape,noradtux: I noticed you added 'speechd' to cross-compile.git . Everything's fine, except you're using a testing URL that becomes invalid every time the developer updates his code. Jul 09 01:59:03 so while I presume 1.43.51 was out when you made it, that URL 404's now Jul 09 01:59:23 I can update the package to 1.43.54 (and then it works) but then we're going to have the same issue next version Jul 09 01:59:41 what do i do after putting phone in dev. mode and connecting to computer? Jul 09 01:59:54 to instal preware Jul 09 02:00:46 charles_: install.preware.org Jul 09 02:00:58 what do i do after putting phone in dev. mode and connecting to computer to install preware? Jul 09 02:01:10 charles_: install.preware.org Jul 09 02:02:18 where is the war thing these days? I wanna try firefox 4.0b1 Jul 09 02:02:40 im working on the new one as we speak Jul 09 02:03:07 getting the geoip thing down right now Jul 09 02:03:30 You know, I'm starting to doubt the existance of 1.4.5 for Sprint. Jul 09 02:03:54 halfhalo, cool **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jul 09 02:59:57 2010