**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 17 02:59:56 2010 Jul 17 03:04:01 hborders: how is/was that tutorial going? :) Jul 17 03:04:18 tman: i'm stuck Jul 17 03:04:53 tman: I had to fall back and try to recompile all the libs I needed into statics since palm won't let you link to any of your own .so's Jul 17 03:04:59 maybe you can help me Jul 17 03:05:18 hborders: right, that's what I do Jul 17 03:05:32 I'm reading through the gcc docs right now trying to figure out a gcc argument order issue Jul 17 03:05:41 just about everything I needed builds a static lib in WIDK Jul 17 03:05:53 I need zlib, openssl, and curl Jul 17 03:05:57 they are not static in WIDK Jul 17 03:06:03 or at least they weren't last week Jul 17 03:06:51 hm idk why you'd need those on a minimal tutorial.. or maybe you need them for your app Jul 17 03:07:01 I need them for my app Jul 17 03:07:07 I don't need them for the tutorial Jul 17 03:07:27 well.. looking at the configure for each package for an option like --with-static might help Jul 17 03:07:44 I built zlib and openssl statically Jul 17 03:07:53 and they both completed just fine Jul 17 03:08:15 curl's the problem then? Jul 17 03:08:17 then, when I tried to build curl, its libssl test program failed to link Jul 17 03:08:33 so I'm trying to figure out what's going on there Jul 17 03:08:51 hm, well can you at least still get the static lib out and try it? Jul 17 03:08:57 of curl that is Jul 17 03:09:19 does widk build a curl static lib now? Jul 17 03:09:28 idk Jul 17 03:10:02 wait libssl test program.. is this in curl's configure script? Jul 17 03:10:19 yes Jul 17 03:10:32 ah.. ok Jul 17 03:10:37 but i've got a very basic gcc question Jul 17 03:10:57 why does this succeed: Jul 17 03:10:57 PATH=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/bin/:$PATH /opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc -mcpu=arm1136jf-s -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=softfp fitblk.c -I/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/include/ -L/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/lib --sysroot=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/sysroot/ -lz -o fitblk Jul 17 03:11:00 and this fail: Jul 17 03:11:01 well, if you're restricting it from using the .so's you might not need to Jul 17 03:11:07 PATH=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/bin/:$PATH /opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc -mcpu=arm1136jf-s -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=softfp -I/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/include/ -L/Users/hborders/xcode-workspaces/personal/pdk-samples/simple/mac/palm-arm/lib --sysroot=/opt/PalmPDK/arm-gcc/sysroot/ -lz -o fitblk fitblk.c Jul 17 03:11:23 hborders, webos-internals.pastebin.com Jul 17 03:11:27 please Jul 17 03:11:52 sorry, will do Jul 17 03:12:51 http://webos.pastebin.com/b9i5JtVh Jul 17 03:12:54 there Jul 17 03:13:58 hborders, kewl...thanks! Jul 17 03:14:51 the main difference is that in the failing one the .c command is the last argument Jul 17 03:15:42 I don't know why you get that. You could try putting the -lz somewhere else. Actually, whenever I do a static build, I just include a path to libz.a for example as if it were another source file, rather than using -l Jul 17 03:15:58 I seem to have problems with -l and static libs Jul 17 03:16:41 ok, I'll try that with curl and see if it helps Jul 17 03:17:02 I'm mostly just concerned about getting basic static linking working. before I continue with the tutorial Jul 17 03:17:12 if I can't do that, the tutorial's not helpful to anyone Jul 17 03:17:31 alright time to get some help from irc. my wireless router is dead and I'm at best buy looking for a replacement Jul 17 03:17:44 want one that I can dd-wrt Jul 17 03:17:46 what models are there Jul 17 03:18:36 I thought that linksys discontinued the dd-wrt ones Jul 17 03:18:38 looking Jul 17 03:18:54 jhopixi: buy a wrt54g online :p Jul 17 03:19:02 eeehhhh Jul 17 03:19:10 zoc need one for right now :) Jul 17 03:19:12 i have a wrt-600n Jul 17 03:19:16 i heart it Jul 17 03:19:22 if you are doing static, order matters Jul 17 03:19:41 netgear wn802t Jul 17 03:19:45 objects aren't pulled in from the static library unless needed in a previous call Jul 17 03:19:57 jhojho: the website claims the cisco valet series routers work Jul 17 03:19:59 egaudet: (I'm a noob) can you help me find a doc to read about that Jul 17 03:19:59 thus when you get to the call at the end (even though you linked the lib before) the symbol is not defined Jul 17 03:20:24 http://linux.die.net/man/1/ld Jul 17 03:20:34 egaudet: lol, thanks. Jul 17 03:20:36 linksys e1000 Jul 17 03:20:38 hborders: just read the error, see what symbol it's looking for, and put that lib on the other side :p Jul 17 03:20:51 egaudet: I lol because I should have known that Jul 17 03:20:59 -no one- likes static libraries Jul 17 03:21:03 jhojho: e1000 revision 1.0 and 2.0 works Jul 17 03:21:16 egaudet: I'm beginning to understand that Jul 17 03:21:25 Palm needs to just allow shared libs in the apps dir, which is not accessible from other apps jails Jul 17 03:21:31 grr can't tell the rev number Jul 17 03:21:33 jhojho: OH I TAKE THAT BACK Jul 17 03:21:42 i was about to say Jul 17 03:21:44 egaudet: I know Jul 17 03:21:44 jhojho: IM READING A LIST OF /UNSUPPORTED/ ROUTERS lol Jul 17 03:22:23 lol Jul 17 03:22:28 thanks Jul 17 03:22:37 jhopixi: wrt600n it is then Jul 17 03:22:47 how about a wireless-n 300 Jul 17 03:22:50 not gonna be in store Jul 17 03:22:58 which model for the wireless n 300 Jul 17 03:23:21 jhojho: 300n 1.0, 1.1, or 2.0 Jul 17 03:23:52 jhojho: whoops, take it back again, 1.0 or 1.1.... 2.0 is not supported Jul 17 03:24:21 can't tell from the packaging Jul 17 03:24:21 also, the 300n is not 'officially' supported, but has some hax0r instructions Jul 17 03:24:32 darn Jul 17 03:25:07 oh here we go Jul 17 03:25:14 jhopixi: 160n is well documented for all versions Jul 17 03:25:15 cisco valet Jul 17 03:25:42 jhopixi: the valet is on the list, but there are no install instructions. i wouldn't trust it Jul 17 03:25:46 jhojho: i'd get the 160n Jul 17 03:25:51 how about this netgear rangemax Jul 17 03:25:57 dual band n Jul 17 03:26:04 model num Jul 17 03:26:09 jhopixi: the 3300? Jul 17 03:26:16 i think the 3300 is the only dual band n Jul 17 03:26:19 crap i know too much about routers lol Jul 17 03:26:21 wndr3700 Jul 17 03:26:25 hmm.. 3700 Jul 17 03:26:29 it's gig too Jul 17 03:26:32 mmm Jul 17 03:26:38 jhopixi: no Jul 17 03:26:53 my whole house could be gig!! Jul 17 03:26:55 why no? Jul 17 03:27:01 its sayint yes for me... Jul 17 03:27:10 halfhalo: i have a different list? lol Jul 17 03:27:11 maybe Jul 17 03:27:21 Netgear WNDR3700 Firmware: Special image for initial flashing Jul 17 03:27:25 jhopixi: honestly, ddwrt runs on almost /anything/, it's just a matter of how much of a pain in the neck it is Jul 17 03:27:29 halfhalo: oh yes, i see that now Jul 17 03:27:47 jhopixi: so yes, as long as that special image is readily available, the 3700 looks hot Jul 17 03:27:49 and sexy Jul 17 03:27:51 I jus want something quick right now Jul 17 03:27:55 get it Jul 17 03:28:02 its almost as good as mah 600n Jul 17 03:28:04 :p Jul 17 03:28:10 3700 is $$$ Jul 17 03:28:16 or mah 350n being a repeater Jul 17 03:28:16 169 Jul 17 03:28:18 grr Jul 17 03:28:22 doitdoitdoit Jul 17 03:28:38 I want something that supports wps too Jul 17 03:28:38 oh god Jul 17 03:28:41 it's atheros Jul 17 03:28:44 you don't want that lol Jul 17 03:28:46 broadcom ftw Jul 17 03:28:56 * halfhalo slaps zsoc|away Jul 17 03:29:02 NO BROADCOM NO Jul 17 03:29:07 well, as long as it's not realtek you're fine i suppose :p Jul 17 03:29:11 multilevel house with lots of walls Jul 17 03:29:12 ~lart zsoc|away Jul 17 03:29:12 * infobot frags zsoc|away with his BFG9000 Jul 17 03:29:31 ok, let halfhalo tell you what to buy :p i'm going back away Jul 17 03:29:47 zsoc|away, just pulling your chain :D Jul 17 03:29:48 * halfhalo has nightmares from getting his g4 powerbook to work with linux due to broadcm Jul 17 03:29:50 what's the diff between the valet and valet plus? Jul 17 03:29:59 money? Jul 17 03:30:12 hahaha Jul 17 03:30:45 If I have a Palm Pre but not currently tied to any service is there a way to get it to download my palm profile over wifi Jul 17 03:30:52 ye Jul 17 03:30:52 s Jul 17 03:30:54 metadoctor Jul 17 03:31:17 the packaging does not say which is why I am asking Jul 17 03:31:18 zsoc|away, I saw a new libgles that made it into OE Git yesterday....with headers! Jul 17 03:31:30 halfhalo: metadoctor? Jul 17 03:31:59 yes. its a tool to bypass activation and first us so you can enable wifi to download your profile Jul 17 03:32:10 nice Jul 17 03:32:17 halo how about a wnr3500l? Jul 17 03:32:58 3500l? Jul 17 03:33:03 no listing for that on ddwrt Jul 17 03:34:01 how about the cisco muchtall 10 vs m20 Jul 17 03:34:13 m10 that is Jul 17 03:34:13 wha wha? Jul 17 03:34:18 hehe Jul 17 03:34:30 no listing for either Jul 17 03:34:34 Dman. I need my own line of Cisco gear. Jul 17 03:34:39 he breathed on the gesture area. Jul 17 03:35:04 * halfhalo backs away from ka6sox slowly Jul 17 03:35:05 damn wirc Jul 17 03:35:45 why the hell is there 25 php-fcgi processes running….. Jul 17 03:35:49 jhopixi, you need 2 left thumbs to operate it. Jul 17 03:36:38 With the new ability to install packages locally with Preware, can it also install Patches? Jul 17 03:37:29 php-fpm ftw Jul 17 03:37:38 lies Jul 17 03:37:53 and plus, im running passenger as well Jul 17 03:38:15 okay this wnr3500l claims to be open source. Jul 17 03:38:30 yeah, but so does my watch. dont mean crap Jul 17 03:38:38 myopenrouter.com Jul 17 03:38:41 hmmmm Jul 17 03:39:11 I think I will get this one for now and order something online Jul 17 03:39:19 lol Jul 17 03:40:12 why the hell is there no open source cpanel alternative that supports nginx Jul 17 03:40:37 I really do not want to use apache…. its to bloated Jul 17 03:40:49 s/to/too/g Jul 17 03:40:50 ka6sox meant: jhopixi, you need 2 left thumbs too operate it. Jul 17 03:40:59 lol Jul 17 03:41:15 ~lart infobot Jul 17 03:41:15 * infobot nabs the moon and broadsides ka6sox with the sea of tranquility Jul 17 03:41:29 cpanel is for noobs :D Jul 17 03:41:45 lol they have kin display models here Jul 17 03:41:47 im lazy dammit Jul 17 03:43:17 im making fun of all you for using apache for the wiki Jul 17 03:43:18 HAHA Jul 17 03:43:33 delete Jul 17 03:43:43 i no rite? Jul 17 03:44:36 * jhopixi looks for compressed air Jul 17 03:44:41 muahahahahaha Jul 17 03:45:58 oh AND the git repo is using it as well! tsk tsk tsk Jul 17 03:46:55 wth ka6sox ?? Jul 17 03:47:02 I know.... Jul 17 03:47:42 I'll get the pitchforks! Jul 17 03:50:49 jhopixi, wIRC...you always touch the gesture area on the pixi and activate muchtall Jul 17 03:51:33 that just sounds wrong Jul 17 03:51:41 Everything is going according to my plan! Jul 17 03:51:42 i no, rite? Jul 17 03:51:54 right now I am drawn into the 60 inch lcd Jul 17 03:52:01 MUST ACQUIRE Jul 17 03:52:22 jhopixi, I'll be rite there to claim it :D Jul 17 03:52:28 oh it's only 2699 Jul 17 03:52:44 * egaudet needs to make modules.mk build the damn kernel once and only once per kernel version per device Jul 17 03:53:05 ok, how does the webos-patches site work? It looks like it would work in rails really well... Jul 17 03:53:16 dragons Jul 17 03:53:23 halfhalo, don't go there. Jul 17 03:53:43 dragons Jul 17 03:53:46 egaudet: do it Jul 17 03:54:07 or we can just wait for 145 and only build one Jul 17 03:54:18 says the person who let the wiki and git archive run off apache Jul 17 03:54:30 right now I build 6. 3 for pre and 3 for pixi Jul 17 03:54:55 halfhalo: rails is the ghetto Jul 17 03:55:25 oooo Jul 17 03:55:34 ka6sox: you broke wargames... Jul 17 03:55:35 wireless 1080p Jul 17 03:55:50 and rails is stupid easy to build though Jul 17 03:56:12 jhopixi, yeah locally building 6 kernels is getting quite annoying lol Jul 17 03:56:35 (well uinput + aufs means 12 kernels) Jul 17 03:57:22 halfhalo, probably....but then I havent' touched it in a week. Jul 17 03:57:22 18 if you split compcache out Jul 17 03:57:45 might take my strugging HDD a couple of days Jul 17 03:58:28 mason Jul 17 03:59:57 you didn't change the port on the client Jul 17 04:00:01 or server crashed Jul 17 04:01:40 yup. making the patches portal in rails would take a day it looks like Jul 17 04:02:32 go for it Jul 17 04:02:57 I am, I just have to reset up nginx on my server Jul 17 04:03:06 forgot to rebuild it with passenger support it looks like Jul 17 04:07:03 tehre we go Jul 17 04:07:11 rails-authorization-plugin Jul 17 04:10:42 gogo new rails project Jul 17 04:11:41 son of a monkey.... Jul 17 04:12:57 I blae jhopixi for nginx misconfig Jul 17 04:13:26 whatever Jul 17 04:13:53 forgot to add —prefix=/opt/nginx Jul 17 04:15:08 BOOM BABY Jul 17 04:41:49 Hi Am new to WebOS...and trying to install Preware...have installed WebOS quick install...and closed it...am trying to restart it but can no longer find it in WIndows...what folder does it install to? Jul 17 04:46:09 Mavoz: it's been awhile since I used it on Windows, but it's just a .jar file I think, so search for Web*Quick*Install*jar and you should find it Jul 17 04:46:13 double-click to run Jul 17 04:53:01 not sure how dust got into the camera. thought it was a sealed unit Jul 17 04:58:19 Ok...thanks..am ow trying to install via Preware Advanced Homebrew iinstaller and errors: I think the problem is 'Palm Novacom'...how do you get Palm Novacom? Jul 17 04:59:25 Windows tried to automatically find Palm Novacom but couldt Jul 17 04:59:32 could not rather Jul 17 05:04:23 need people to test out different cpu govenor settings warthog Jul 17 05:07:18 conservative is nice...only 85ma draw. Jul 17 05:08:28 slower than heck Jul 17 05:08:39 what do you have it set to? Jul 17 05:08:45 thats what she said Jul 17 05:08:54 geez Jul 17 05:09:05 I think halfhalo is 16 Jul 17 05:09:18 nah, just really pissed Jul 17 05:09:31 at myself Jul 17 05:09:42 misspelled passenger in passenger_enabled Jul 17 05:10:49 Ok..am trying to install WebOS quick install..managed to choose "Preware" option..chose "install"..installer says "Connecting to a device"...it also had said.."can't find device"....I think the problem is that there is no Palm Novacom service running? What does one do? Jul 17 05:13:03 Should I quit "Connecting to a device"? Jul 17 05:40:27 /bin/sh: line 1: zip: command not found Jul 17 05:40:27 make[1]: *** [build/pre-p100eww-sprint-1.4.1.1/.packed] Error 127 Jul 17 05:40:35 zip is installed though Jul 17 05:42:59 not in your path Jul 17 06:12:25 lol "RIM vs Jobs? By any chance could there be a happy ending?" Jul 17 06:40:52 hmmm. how do i switch channels irssi Jul 17 06:48:34 halfhalo_srv, what, no bip? Jul 17 07:00:03 nein Nein Jul 17 07:04:53 figured it out Jul 17 07:15:00 halfhalo: you still here? Jul 17 08:36:17 Govnah 0.5.8 is in the testing feed, with a fix for the hang bug. Jul 17 08:37:47 ok, good, was about to mention that Jul 17 10:05:40 hi Jul 17 10:05:46 rwhitby: nice :) Jul 17 10:07:02 rwhitby: I made two patches working with webos 1.4.5: browser-mutli-mod and top-bar-system-menu-initial-framework Jul 17 10:08:01 rwhitby: both just need s/338/347/g Jul 17 10:08:30 noradtux: excellent. we're close to having the new patches portal online Jul 17 10:09:05 rwhitby: did you see halfhalo say he was going to rewrite it in rails? Jul 17 10:09:33 I was _really_ missing those patches ;) Jul 17 10:09:53 jhojho: I did not. Jul 17 10:10:20 yeah he sez he's on it =D Jul 17 10:16:47 looks like I need to work out how to get Govnah to say N/A for Compressed Swap settings when compcache is not available. Jul 17 10:17:46 I am currently testing thew new govnah to see if it still hangs Jul 17 10:21:01 rwhitby: how Jul 17 10:21:09 forget that .. Jul 17 10:53:04 govnah looks good by now Jul 17 13:01:25 hey Jul 17 13:13:22 hi Jul 17 13:17:31 hi Jul 17 13:55:23 how do I put my palm pre on develope mode Jul 17 14:01:14 how do I put my palm pre on developer mode Jul 17 14:03:37 hi Jul 17 14:03:46 shindso: upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart Jul 17 14:04:13 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Getting_started#Enabling_Developer_Mode Jul 17 14:20:28 #powertip: to prevent macs from dumping files that you delete into .Trashes and be able to delete right away, rm -rf .Trashes then touch .Trashes http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20040121161137177 Jul 17 14:20:35 this should be a one shot app like EFF Jul 17 14:23:33 rm -rf /.Trashes/* ? Jul 17 14:24:04 oh nvm I see getting rid of the Trash bucket altogether Jul 17 14:24:11 living on the wild side :P Jul 17 14:24:30 rm -rf /media/internal/.Trashes Jul 17 14:25:00 unix is my os of choice. no babysitting needed or wanted =D Jul 17 14:25:07 unix eh Jul 17 14:25:51 service babysitter off Jul 17 14:26:19 I'm paralellizing modules.mk Jul 17 14:32:46 thanks Jul 17 14:34:40 WebOS Quick Install Jul 17 14:35:18 was that a question? Jul 17 14:35:30 yes Jul 17 14:35:58 where to get it? Jul 17 14:36:06 yes Jul 17 14:36:43 have you heard of google? :) Jul 17 14:36:49 yes Jul 17 14:36:50 http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-software/228310-webos-quick-install-v3-14-a.html Jul 17 14:36:55 thank Jul 17 15:13:07 . Jul 17 15:51:26 hi, our university provides WLAN and uses some configuration that webOS does not support ( WPA Enterprise, TTLS/EAP ) so connecting via GUI does not work. howevery, I can trick the palm to connect to the network by providing a modified wpa_supplicant.conf and reloading the configuration via wpa_cli ( taken from debian ). Jul 17 15:52:11 nevertheless, the webOS does not recognize this connection and so apps like the browser do not work althogh there is a connection available. Jul 17 15:52:45 any ideas, hints or anything? IIRC PmNetConfigManager creates network connections? Jul 17 15:59:32 and since when is my root not mounted read only? mount gives me "rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)" after a fresh reboot.... Jul 17 16:04:08 you broke fstab Jul 17 17:21:47 hybjkl:?"> Jul 17 17:22:50 halfhalo, I broke it...and was too tired last night to fix it. Jul 17 17:23:00 ... Jul 17 17:23:26 you only had to change two numbers…. how did you break that Jul 17 17:28:31 no, I rebooted mason, forgot to save the command history first :P Jul 17 17:28:44 so the server isn't up? Jul 17 17:29:12 well...the client isn't up Jul 17 17:29:12 go into the folder and run node app.js to bring it back up Jul 17 17:29:55 did you change the port in the client? Jul 17 17:30:09 iirc you hid everythign in some .blah dir. Jul 17 17:30:47 your useless, you know that? :p Jul 17 17:33:26 halfhalo, only when I haven't had my coffee. Jul 17 17:33:28 :P Jul 17 17:33:43 you don't get coffee much, do you… :p Jul 17 17:34:36 off to see the wizard, the wonderfull wizard of trying to make a patches portal in rails Jul 17 17:35:02 heh....that was a week ago...and I've been on holiday :P Jul 17 17:35:17 suuuuure Jul 17 17:35:34 im on vacation in one week Jul 17 17:35:51 okay hang around till you remind me of a library name so I can get to the right directory Jul 17 17:36:18 ugh. fiiiiiiine Jul 17 17:43:27 halfhalo, a library name please? Jul 17 17:43:58 fffffffffffffffffff… something to do with wargames? Jul 17 17:44:19 yo word. Jul 17 17:44:44 halfhalo, that would help....I doubt something to do with patch portal would help. Jul 17 17:44:50 :D Jul 17 17:45:30 yeah, but I could have said something like system32 Jul 17 17:46:35 system32 isn't important Jul 17 17:47:04 in fact in deleted my usr folder last week Jul 17 17:47:10 phone is much faster :P Jul 17 17:47:40 "where all my stuff?!?" "its in system32" "But this is a linux machine" "so?" "they don't have system32 folders" "WHAT TYPE OF MACHINE DOESNT HAVE ASYSTEM32 FOLDER?!?" "one thats stable" "oh…. well then" Jul 17 17:49:46 so guys how about all these new 3D games Jul 17 17:49:51 ugg, im going to bed Jul 17 17:51:35 halfhalo, you not gone to bed yet? Jul 17 17:51:47 no wonder you're cranky. Jul 17 17:53:05 i did. im just going back to sleep Jul 17 17:53:42 hmm Jul 17 18:03:21 hola everyone Jul 17 18:03:57 * halfhalo smacks cryptk and yells "keep it down! were trying to sleep!" Jul 17 18:04:31 lol Jul 17 18:06:13 so, I have several small form factor devices... they all need to run linux.. amongst them there are 4 different architectures... and I have to do it all from scratch Jul 17 18:06:22 I am working on the linux build for the second device now... Jul 17 18:06:33 glibc compiling... again... Jul 17 18:06:52 hiya cryptk Jul 17 18:06:59 sup ka6sox Jul 17 18:07:02 hows the server doin? Jul 17 18:07:15 better...and getting better all the time :D Jul 17 18:07:23 I heard that it turned out that it was the controller Jul 17 18:07:30 at least I think that is what I heard Jul 17 18:10:23 luckily these are pretty stripped down copies of linux... no GUI's, no real anything, they just need everything that is required to boot and run a binary Jul 17 18:10:27 I ordered one yesterday? (or was it the previous day?) too much going on. Jul 17 18:10:47 so pretty much a kernel... linker... shell... a few libraries and some locales Jul 17 18:12:25 still no 1.4.5 for sprint... :( Jul 17 18:16:33 my lazyness knows no bounds... Jul 17 18:17:35 sitting on couch using irssi because i cant be arsed to get a laptop with irc on it Jul 17 18:22:00 * torchie dies. Jul 17 18:22:08 half: on the phone? Jul 17 18:27:39 okay I will try again... Jul 17 18:27:47 Node wargames.js? Jul 17 18:30:54 I know what it is....halfhalo_srv is overheating....106 in Winnetka today :P Jul 17 19:05:05 rexwwzsextfvygbyyiunyubtrcesxrdybugbtcftv Jul 17 19:06:11 frfrdrexrecrgrffexwxesceecrvjrgbtrvrvdvrdcrdvdtvhrdcrdchrdncdecdcbde bescbescbsecescsedrcrdcrdrdbbnned bed nedcnescnescnecnescn Jul 17 19:08:08 halfhalo_srv: are you butt IRC'ing? Jul 17 19:10:01 no, spaz ircing Jul 17 19:10:19 doesnt really worj well on a touch kb Jul 17 19:10:33 haha Jul 17 19:10:40 anyways, I gtg, bbiab Jul 17 19:12:52 * ka6sox sends halfhalo_srv some Ice...the formula of which the Europeans don't seem to have. Jul 17 19:13:04 hmm Jul 17 19:13:12 we have glaciers Jul 17 19:18:34 halfhalo_srv: ignoring me, I see....that's okay! Jul 17 19:26:50 sugardave: naw, just not logged into webos on the ipad right now. and jot really payng attention to irssi either Jul 17 19:26:59 * ka6sox looks thru logs and can't find the port # that halfhalo, halfhalo_pre said for the client :P Jul 17 19:27:36 I'm trying to change the 2 lines. Jul 17 19:28:18 halfhalo_srv, 8261? Jul 17 19:28:52 any random port should work Jul 17 19:30:07 kk Jul 17 19:30:25 and its: node war-games.js? Jul 17 19:30:57 yeah Jul 17 19:52:58 I've done some limited testing with the Warthog Kernel on the Pixi, with CompCache enabled at 24mb: the msm7k, conservative, and powersave governors basically turn the phone unusable Jul 17 19:55:42 SineOt, thanks for the feedback... Jul 17 19:57:12 it seems that it won't go past the 122mhz step Jul 17 19:58:03 you tried bringing up an app like preware and its still stuck there? Jul 17 19:58:26 yup Jul 17 19:58:39 SineOt, I assume you have Govnah running. Jul 17 19:58:51 when switching between the two with the advanced swipe gesture, I can watch everything move over at like 5fps Jul 17 19:58:52 yes Jul 17 19:59:01 which is where I'm watching the CPU speed Jul 17 19:59:02 oh, make sure you are updated to the latest Govnah 0.5.8 Jul 17 19:59:46 there is a memory leak before that version. Jul 17 19:59:46 its in the testing feeds. Jul 17 20:00:05 and compcache of 16MB is usually sufficient (for my pixi) Jul 17 20:00:43 before you do that 2 questions: Jul 17 20:00:50 1) what is the load Jul 17 20:00:51 I've had issues where without any cards open I'll get the too many cards error, so I bumped it to 24mb Jul 17 20:00:54 haven't seen any since Jul 17 20:01:10 2) what is the memory situation right now according to Govnah. Jul 17 20:01:35 let me check, Govnah is updating Jul 17 20:01:43 brb Jul 17 20:01:51 kk Jul 17 20:02:25 its 0.5.9 now Jul 17 20:02:48 okay jhojho is the master...listen to him (I'm so last 20 minutes) Jul 17 20:16:52 SineOt, if you had a memory leak that would cause the pixi to become unhappy and give you TMC Jul 17 20:17:35 as far as the CPU speed issue, mine spends a LOT of time in 122 but when I ask for an app it scales pretty quickly Jul 17 20:18:12 but I would set up 16MB of compcache. Jul 17 20:25:01 from playing with it, I couldn't get it to scale using the msm7k, conservative, and powersave governors Jul 17 20:25:13 it just sat at 122 Jul 17 20:25:52 right now on ondemandtcl with compache 24, it says... load average is 9.33 8.39 4.04 Jul 17 20:26:25 you probably need to set the min speed to something higher while testing something other than ondemandtcl Jul 17 20:26:27 SineOt, ya, same here now Jul 17 20:26:44 running a preware update and its stuck @ 122mhz Jul 17 20:27:36 what exactly is conseritive, msm7k, and powersave supposed to do? Jul 17 20:27:50 just stick it at the lowest speed and not adjust? Jul 17 20:28:05 They are different governors that scale differently based on demands. Jul 17 20:28:22 but I'm not seeing them scale at all :x Jul 17 20:31:05 although I guess that's why people are testing it Jul 17 20:34:36 SineOt, yes, thanks for your insightful input...its helpful. Jul 17 20:39:28 fzdsjn Jul 17 20:39:33 tooooo hot Jul 17 20:40:02 haha, yes it is. it's 85F inside right now, it's miserable Jul 17 20:41:32 SineOt, are you in the Valley? Jul 17 20:41:51 north Orange County Jul 17 20:41:52 it is… 90 in my room Jul 17 20:41:54 * halfhalo dies Jul 17 20:42:04 I've learned to avoid the valley in summer Jul 17 20:43:44 SineOt, I grew up in HB and Goat Hill. Jul 17 20:43:58 Goat Hill = CM. Jul 17 20:51:38 oh, cool Jul 17 20:51:44 Huntington Beach is cool Jul 17 20:52:21 temp in granada hills is currently…. 102f Jul 17 20:52:24 god. dammit. Jul 17 20:53:14 6th and Main Jul 17 20:53:48 halfhalo, GH is like always too hot... Jul 17 20:54:02 yeah, but this is retarted Jul 17 20:54:04 it isn't like too hot..it *is* too hot. Jul 17 20:54:19 its _cooler_ in the middle of the valley by like 5f Jul 17 20:54:26 yup Jul 17 20:54:33 pool is in my immediate future Jul 17 20:54:38 Van Nuys is 5deg cooler. Jul 17 20:54:57 same Jul 17 20:55:09 after this skype call I'm going for the pool like mad Jul 17 20:55:20 I'm headed to the pool in like 10 minutes. Jul 17 20:55:28 SineOt, later lets troubleshoot these governors. Jul 17 20:55:30 and yeah, my girlfriend used to live out in Riverside... and today it's 106 Jul 17 20:55:32 sure Jul 17 20:55:52 ewww...riverside...always 10deg hotter. Jul 17 20:56:22 lol Jul 17 22:09:48 does anyone know how to input ñ on the pre? Jul 17 22:10:05 magic markers Jul 17 22:10:38 sym-n, should be the first option Jul 17 22:10:45 if that's – and I think it is Jul 17 22:11:39 yes Jul 17 22:16:28 srgmmfht,gyj.huklp;' Jul 17 22:19:07 halfhalo: okay so I did more research last night. how about the WNDR3700 or the asus RT-N16? Jul 17 22:19:21 WNDR3700 is atheros... Jul 17 22:19:28 asus is nice Jul 17 22:32:07 http://twitpic.com/265vub Jul 17 22:34:11 too bad my pixi drops 3g if I grab the bottom :T Jul 17 22:36:03 dang shame my pre just randomly doesn't connect to 3g anymore Jul 18 00:31:10 ~. Jul 18 00:31:11 . Jul 18 00:31:28 bros Jul 18 00:31:32 bah Jul 18 00:31:40 is there anyway to use my pre as a wifi hot spot Jul 18 00:36:59 does anyone know how i can restart luna from within my app? Jul 18 00:39:55 does anyone know how i can restart luna from within my app? Jul 18 00:54:28 host have a quick question I have a pixi plus and anytime I'm watching a movie or playing a game my cpu temp starts to spike it can go from 26 c to 45 c in a matter of minutes is this normal Jul 18 00:58:15 audemars02: Have you got any clue on my problem in svae/restore? This is the link to the post http://bit.ly/9lf8xt Jul 18 01:10:19 pipsmith: let me try to email you the file... rod thinks that it may be that something got lost in the translation from windows Jul 18 01:10:40 pipsmith: just use that file as is...it already has fromdos run Jul 18 01:12:05 pipsmith: sent Jul 18 01:12:34 Audermars02:Ok, thanks. I have it and will test it now. Jul 18 01:30:05 Audermars02: I am getting the same result as before, I am getting hung up on the IFS on save Jul 18 01:34:10 pipsmith: thanks Jul 18 01:55:39 pipsmith: can you send me your script for My databank? want to do some testing Jul 18 01:56:43 pipsmith: nevermind, i think i found it in the forums Jul 18 01:56:44 Audermars: Yes please, was just going to suggest this. I'll email to you @precentral account. MyDataBank is free in app cat Jul 18 01:57:15 Can still post it if you want, to confirm the script I am trying at the moment Jul 18 02:03:20 Audermars02:sent to precentral account if you want to check it Jul 18 02:05:46 pipsmith: i ran the file, and it got past the IFS line just fine, but it actually pulled a different error later on when trying to call for ZIP..but i was able to get back that IFS line Jul 18 02:07:32 Audermars02:I have never got past the IFS line, I will uninstall save/restore, rm /var/svc/org.webosinternals.saverestore and start again. See if I can then get past it. Jul 18 02:18:00 pipsmith: hold off, because the file is broken for the other scripts.. Jul 18 02:18:10 pipsmith: do u have an old copy of the databses file? Jul 18 02:18:36 Audemars02:Yes I have an old copy Jul 18 02:19:07 pipsmith: load that back into your device so the other scripts will work again...and rod is looking into it and will try to fix later today/tonight Jul 18 02:20:35 Audermars02: Ok, I will do that. Pop it in the save/restore thread if you get anything new. I'm going to get some sleep now. Jul 18 02:20:53 Audemars02: Oh and thanks for the help **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 18 02:59:56 2010