**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 03 02:59:56 2010 Aug 03 03:00:04 yet Aug 03 03:02:54 dont make me change the kernel bootup logo to a rocking horse! Aug 03 03:03:12 Doooo eeeetttt Aug 03 03:03:22 blame me for it as well Aug 03 03:03:41 or oil Aug 03 04:04:08 hah Aug 03 04:04:12 stupid ashuron. Aug 03 04:05:42 You think they would notice if I sent them back a pre with no battery? Aug 03 04:05:51 mebe Aug 03 04:06:10 Well, what if the original was doa and I 'bought' a replacement. Aug 03 04:06:27 Wouldn't I be entitled to keep it, even if the phone broke? Aug 03 04:23:25 http://i.imgur.com/Kzmu9.jpg <- lol @ demo unit Aug 03 04:23:28 :P Aug 03 04:47:53 Govnah 0.6.2 in alpha testing Aug 03 04:54:05 rwhitby: you should make it so the testing feeds are added when you type the konami code on the main page of preware :) Aug 03 05:05:25 Tibfib: no way, the Aladdin code! Aug 03 05:05:30 aabbaabbaabb Aug 03 05:05:31 haha Aug 03 06:04:43 hi i m a new user of palm pixi and have a very bizzare problem Aug 03 06:05:17 which is? Aug 03 06:06:08 i can't configure my pixi on 3G etwork i always have a message " cannot write apn parametres" Aug 03 06:06:55 Is there anything unusual about this device? Aug 03 06:07:02 Secondhand, hackjob, mods, etc? Aug 03 06:07:21 it"s unlocked from oroginal operator Aug 03 06:07:40 ah, not something I can help with Aug 03 06:08:04 yeah, I don't know gsm, sorry Aug 03 06:08:46 i contacted the palm support but were unable to solve the problem Aug 03 06:09:27 what carrier? Aug 03 06:10:58 I don't think official support handles unlock jobs done by users Aug 03 06:11:17 Any tinkering in the modem is a 'there be dragons' setup Aug 03 06:29:19 * rwhitby wonders whether the next UberKernel should go for 900MHz or 1GHz. Aug 03 06:29:29 1GHz. Aug 03 06:29:45 10GHz Aug 03 06:30:15 Its possible. DOITDOITDOIT Aug 03 06:30:31 Tibfib: If your device lifetime is reduced from 10 years to 2 months, would you still say 1GHz Aug 03 06:31:06 Has 1GHz made anyones pre fail yet? Aug 03 06:31:48 And my GHz I mean GerbilHatz, not Gigahertz Aug 03 06:32:37 * rwhitby waits for sensible people to join the channel before continuing the discussion Aug 03 06:32:47 Thats a great choice Aug 03 06:36:21 I am enjoying 1GHz on my plus though Aug 03 06:36:56 Considering I never really OC'ed my pre before, its a huge difference along with the extra ram Aug 03 06:50:01 yea OC'ing gives it the smoothness of an iphone Aug 03 06:59:34 ever since installing uberkernel, my palm's cpu goes crazy Aug 03 07:00:00 LunaSysMgr keeps nibbling away between 10 and 50% of it at any time Aug 03 07:00:17 according to top, it suffers from a load average of 15.89 Aug 03 07:00:26 have you ever had any other kernel or overclocking patch previously? Aug 03 07:00:30 no Aug 03 07:00:53 just the latest uberkernel (not the one from today) Aug 03 07:01:02 and what do you see when you uninstall uberkernel? Aug 03 07:01:18 will try that in a minute Aug 03 07:03:20 it didn't start instantly after installing uberkernel either tho. it's the last package i updated / installed, nevertheless Aug 03 07:03:34 it seemed to run fine for the first two days or so Aug 03 07:03:53 ever since my palm goes through an entire battery within 4 to 5 hours Aug 03 07:04:36 (just sitting there in standby, not doing anything) Aug 03 07:06:03 but you haven't uninstalled it, confirmed the problem does not occur, installed it, confirmed the problem does occur, and then repeat that cycle twice more to be sure? Aug 03 07:06:44 rwhitby: no, so take everything i said with a pinch of salt ;-) Aug 03 07:06:50 i'm going to do that right now tho Aug 03 07:06:50 ok Aug 03 07:07:09 i was just "hoping" it might be a known issue to some extend :) Aug 03 07:07:58 there's no way there would be a public release of a kernel with an issue like that. Aug 03 07:08:31 not if the issue's known, yeah Aug 03 07:08:59 might be an obscure bug, but we'll see after my re-install and test orgy Aug 03 07:22:47 I love alpha testing orgies. Aug 03 08:53:09 hello ? Aug 03 08:54:46 I have a question about the I/o scheduler and the tcp congetstion methods Aug 03 08:58:35 lol everybody sleeping ??? Aug 03 09:00:05 yes Aug 03 09:00:09 oooook Aug 03 09:00:23 2am= sleep time nao Aug 03 10:35:46 hello world. was about to install preware on a friends pre. but when I connect his device, enter dev mode and start up quickinstall, the blue down arrow does not respond. what can I do? Aug 03 11:08:33 * en0x is reflashing his pixi Aug 03 11:09:28 * hux_ looks for a recommendation which kernel package to install Aug 03 11:09:54 pre? Aug 03 11:10:08 i use uberkernel with screen state Aug 03 11:10:09 500/800 Aug 03 11:10:17 and disabled compache Aug 03 11:53:51 i love the thing Aug 03 11:54:07 in new preware... Aug 03 11:54:35 yeah, it's pretty good that thing Aug 03 11:54:42 hehe Aug 03 11:54:51 the ask to update feeds on start Aug 03 12:11:07 yep, pre. guess the 500/800 should be more than sufficient, and... stable! Aug 03 12:12:06 hm, pre backup running for 69 minutes now... o.O Aug 03 12:27:34 * rwhitby doesn't trust the Pre Backup tool - too heavy handed to work correctly. Aug 03 12:28:25 hmm Aug 03 12:28:55 ok so i bypassed the first use app now... i didn't know that when i connect to wifi and run first use app it checks if i have sim inserted :S blah... Aug 03 12:29:08 yep. Aug 03 12:29:26 it needs a sim to be able to create a profile Aug 03 12:29:27 but now i should just pop the sim in and it should log me in to palm profile no problemo Aug 03 12:29:38 rwhitby: i already have a profile Aug 03 12:29:45 i just need to login to it ;) Aug 03 12:29:52 do you want to use the cellular connection in the future? Aug 03 12:29:58 yes Aug 03 12:30:04 ok, you've done the right thing then Aug 03 12:30:22 it needs the sim, but will use the wifi for the data connection Aug 03 12:30:36 that's the whole thing i had to bypass the first use app because my foreign sim don't have internet activated Aug 03 12:30:48 with meta doctor, you can actually preload your wifi settings and even get it to automatically install preware and the testing feeds. Aug 03 12:31:05 i could use other sim but i don't want to because it will take all the contacts from that sim and load it up into webos Aug 03 12:31:19 and this phone is for my brother who is currently in poland and he will pop his sim in Aug 03 12:31:35 so i don't want to load any sim contacts from different sim card than his Aug 03 12:31:54 rwhitby: that's how i except the wifi profiles Aug 03 12:32:48 s/ how i / how i did / Aug 03 12:32:48 en0x meant: rwhitby: that's how i did except the wifi profiles Aug 03 14:17:52 hola Aug 03 15:17:43 here's a potentially esoteric question Aug 03 15:18:01 has anyone tried re-directing the palm sync'ing stuff to their own server? Aug 03 16:04:13 this kernel makes me happy Aug 03 16:04:14 this kernel makes me happy Aug 03 16:04:17 this kernel makes me happy Aug 03 16:04:18 this kernel makes me happ Aug 03 16:04:19 this kernel makes me happy Aug 03 16:04:20 this kernel makes me happy Aug 03 16:04:33 this kernel makes me happy Aug 03 16:04:33 this kernel makes me happy Aug 03 16:04:40 hah Aug 03 16:04:44 Settle down Beavis Aug 03 16:05:21 heh Aug 03 16:05:53 this kernel makes me happy Aug 03 16:05:54 this kernel makes me happy Aug 03 16:05:55 this kernel makes me happy Aug 03 16:06:02 craaap Aug 03 16:06:17 I broke wirc for myself Aug 03 16:07:06 u suck ;p Aug 03 16:07:10 And I didn't even know it so I just spammed the send message button Aug 03 16:07:46 [; Aug 03 16:08:38 Its all good though, I have ze workin changes in a diff file Aug 03 16:14:17 Anyone who goes to csun who wants a work study web update job zer be an opening Aug 03 19:08:20 Weee paycheck! Aug 03 19:08:34 fifty fifty man Aug 03 19:08:51 bah, thats how I split it up in savings Aug 03 19:09:09 what a guy Aug 03 19:09:44 i no rit? Aug 03 19:10:34 no words Aug 03 19:33:16 anyone know how I can use toggle buttons to run certain code when on and not whenn off? Aug 03 19:41:30 diov: ask in #webos Aug 03 19:41:41 ok Aug 03 20:44:46 hey guys :) Aug 03 20:44:53 hi Aug 03 20:45:00 a long way Aug 03 20:45:03 from mars Aug 03 20:45:07 :) Aug 03 20:45:42 is it allowed to ask for help to unlock a uk o2 pre? :-/ Aug 03 20:46:00 i'm trying it for 3 days now Aug 03 20:47:30 hmm, i guess, its not :-/ Aug 03 20:47:57 it may be that no one knows, I'm not all sure what's allowed to ask about Aug 03 20:48:52 :D Aug 03 20:49:20 ok, anyone here with a locked pre? Aug 03 20:51:28 Hi, after installing openssh it auto-created ssh keys. Where'd it put them? Aug 03 20:51:57 check out the application page on the wiki Aug 03 20:52:09 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH Aug 03 20:52:14 it explains everythig Aug 03 20:52:19 The wiki page at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:OpenSSH is obsolete then. Aug 03 20:52:22 s/everythig/everything/ Aug 03 20:52:23 cryptk|work meant: it explains everything Aug 03 20:52:29 hrm Aug 03 20:52:40 It tells me to create them myself however the installer said it was creating the keys. Aug 03 20:53:03 yep, but the installer doesn't create them with passkeys, which isn't all that great Aug 03 20:53:17 trust me, if you follow the wiki you will get a working secure ssh connection Aug 03 20:54:01 follow the generate keys from webos method part Aug 03 20:56:28 Ah, so that's where they probably went? Aug 03 20:57:45 standard for the keys to be in ~/.ssh/ Aug 03 20:59:15 well yes, however $(cd) put me in /root or whatever and there wasn't a .ssh directory. Aug 03 20:59:20 I did check for that first. Aug 03 21:00:57 is there a way to replace the webOS contacts database with a vcard.vcf on the local filesystem? Aug 03 21:01:14 the Missing Sync application I'm using is taking forever and keeps erroring out Aug 03 21:06:44 christefano: yes there is a way Aug 03 21:07:02 christefano: it requires you implementing vcard storage Aug 03 21:07:15 PuffTheMagic: vcard storage? Aug 03 21:07:15 jjore: reading postinst I guess they get generated to /opt/etc/openssh/ but following the wiki should get you set up with everything you need Aug 03 21:07:28 PuffTheMagic: You have my interest as well. Aug 03 21:07:30 PuffTheMagic: I'm game. is there a patch or app for this? Aug 03 21:07:32 Mercury: sure, sure vcards on the fs instead of a db Aug 03 21:07:45 christefano: no patch or app, i said u have to write the code Aug 03 21:07:49 u asked if it was possible Aug 03 21:07:50 ahh, I see Aug 03 21:07:51 sure it is Aug 03 21:07:53 just do it Aug 03 21:07:55 Ah, a little overboard. Aug 03 21:08:20 Would perhaps be less work to write a utility which can go to and from vcards and palm's DB format. Aug 03 21:08:47 why waste the space Aug 03 21:08:55 a vcard backend would be so much more useful Aug 03 21:09:53 1 file per contact Aug 03 21:09:59 scan some folder on startup Aug 03 21:10:01 Because you could probably do a reasonable vcard syncer with a mixture of an app and a service, with nary a patch to break in the process. Aug 03 21:10:02 and use inotify Aug 03 21:10:05 to detect new vcards Aug 03 21:10:07 would be easy Aug 03 21:10:19 no need for a vcard syncer Aug 03 21:10:30 if the vcards are on the media partition Aug 03 21:10:34 anything can access them Aug 03 21:10:40 just import them into any tool you use Aug 03 21:10:48 Sync to and from it, just as you describe. But without having to get into the guts of the contacts engine. Aug 03 21:10:54 syncers are only needed when stupid proprietary shit is used Aug 03 21:11:21 Yeah, but I don't feel like rewriting the palm contacts backend. Aug 03 21:11:37 (Not that I have the time to write this either, so.) Aug 03 21:11:39 there are 1000 ways to do this Aug 03 21:11:50 Agreed. Aug 03 21:11:53 just answerting christefano 's question about it being possible Aug 03 21:12:25 Personally, I just want a decent syncml sync method, I'd even take an LDAP one. Aug 03 21:12:56 well Aug 03 21:13:00 even before that Aug 03 21:13:11 it would be nice if the contacts were vcard 3 compliant Aug 03 21:13:32 palm had to add extra fields that dont exist Aug 03 21:13:42 so there is no clean way to export a palm contact even to vcard Aug 03 21:13:54 what does CelleBrite do? Aug 03 21:14:02 idk what that is Aug 03 21:14:26 there's a ##66623# hash code that exports the contacts database to a vcard.vcf file Aug 03 21:14:48 I haven't looked at the format of the file but it helped me merge my phone's contacts with my desktop's Aug 03 21:15:11 now I have a master list and I want to replace my phone's contacts with my desktop's Aug 03 21:15:13 there's a patch that exports all the contacts to vcard Aug 03 21:15:53 egaudet: yup, but I couldn't use that because my Pre's email stopped working and the patch sends the vcard by email Aug 03 21:16:21 so I wiped the phone and rebuilt it, and now I just need to import my desktop's master vcard on the phone (replacing the existing contacts) Aug 03 21:16:36 you can import a vcard into google contacts Aug 03 21:16:46 then when you sync your phone with google, BAM contacts in phone Aug 03 21:16:49 cryptk|work: yeah… I think that's what I need to do... Aug 03 21:16:55 I have done it, works great Aug 03 21:17:06 I keep all of my contacts on google contacts for that very purpose Aug 03 21:17:18 yeah that's what I did (google) Aug 03 21:17:25 Missing Sync is currently on contact 438 out of 760… I'm waiting to see if it errors out again Aug 03 21:18:05 I've been incredibly happy with MS for Palm OS but the Pre version's dependency on wifi is a serious detriment Aug 03 21:27:54 * oilsworkn doesn't mind syncing contacts over wifi Aug 03 21:28:03 not like you really need to do it on-the-go Aug 03 22:10:43 Oh god my eyes Aug 03 22:11:26 They burn from the light Aug 03 22:11:37 * oilsworkn puts pants back on Aug 03 22:12:48 * uNiXpSyChO is waiting for the Slider of Doom from Oil Aug 03 22:13:04 rwhitby said he wanted selectlists Aug 03 22:13:31 My problem with Missinc Sync is that I don't run Windows, and they didn't have a client when I last looked. Aug 03 22:14:00 My. Wallet burns to due to the price of these contacts Aug 03 22:14:02 * oilsworkn guesses Mercury uses linux? cause i thought they came out with mac version before windows Aug 03 22:14:09 oilsworkn: Yeah. Aug 03 22:14:11 uNiXpSyChO: to do a slider, we'd need a very small range of voltages to get the precision you need to do single step increments Aug 03 22:14:19 Not that my eyes are open long enough to see anything Aug 03 22:14:23 oilsworkn: Over a decade of using Linux exclusively. Aug 03 22:14:32 * oilsworkn claps? Aug 03 22:14:50 Or do a slider for each place of voltage. Aug 03 22:14:52 (Mostly because if I didn't say it, people would ask why I don't just use Windows, or something equally silly.) Aug 03 22:15:13 My eyes feel fat Aug 03 22:15:35 rwhitby: really? i would have thought the slider would be a mechanism od the formula to calculate vsel->mV and display the result as the slider moved? Aug 03 22:16:08 so it wont be consecutive numbers but the actual voltage after calculation Aug 03 22:16:17 unless i'm missing something Aug 03 22:16:28 * oilsworkn would never ask such a thing Aug 03 22:16:35 * oilsworkn knows people take their os choice seriously Aug 03 22:16:39 You know what would be epicly cool? Having a knob as a selector Aug 03 22:17:33 * uNiXpSyChO heh heh heh... halfhalo said "knob"... heh hehheh Aug 03 22:18:02 uNiXpSyChO: vmax <-> vmin is 25 to 155, right? you can't get the precision on a webOS slider Aug 03 22:18:12 (well, not in an easy to use way) Aug 03 22:18:25 oh, i see what you mean now Aug 03 22:18:42 how about a table instead of just one line? Aug 03 22:18:46 if it was 20mV each way, a slider would be perfect Aug 03 22:20:27 jjore: host keys are different from user keys. openssh postinst generates host keys. you generate your own user keys. Aug 03 22:23:48 uNiXpSyChO: well, it would be a selectlist for each one Aug 03 22:33:12 set increments to 5 Aug 03 22:35:05 And now they have to take a picture of my eye Aug 03 22:35:29 With a nikon dslr Aug 03 22:36:26 With a lens the size of a desk. Literally. The lens is the desk Aug 03 22:36:57 probably gets a lot of smudges Aug 03 22:38:44 Why did they not warn me! Aug 03 22:39:13 rwhitby: have patch authors whos patches are missing screenshots been told to submit an update with the images? Aug 03 23:04:38 oilsworkn: nope Aug 03 23:05:50 rwhitby: maybe they should :) Aug 03 23:06:49 And have a default image swell Aug 03 23:20:16 I cant see my kb Aug 03 23:20:20 its to shiny Aug 04 01:25:50 Seb_or_Sam: Yo. Aug 04 01:25:55 aloha Aug 04 01:26:01 what's up? Aug 04 01:26:24 Chillin. Aug 04 01:26:40 cool. Aug 04 01:27:14 is the GPS patch working for you? Aug 04 01:27:27 you're on a vzw pre so i thought i'd ask Aug 04 01:27:32 hi folk Aug 04 01:27:34 it's a little weird today Aug 04 01:27:50 Nope. If fact, without sounding like a prick....NONE of the apps or patches have worked for me. Aug 04 01:28:07 And further more....while Im on this vacation....Ive been using my GPS just fine. Aug 04 01:28:14 BeeRad none? wait, how is that possible? Aug 04 01:28:39 Kick Verizon Nav on first, then boot Google and Im golden. The other apps and patches have been making my experience WORSE, not better. Go figure. Aug 04 01:28:44 i'm not blaming you now i;m asking how verizon screwed ip this bad Aug 04 01:29:04 *up Aug 04 01:29:09 wow Aug 04 01:29:13 that's a bitch Aug 04 01:29:30 I think this has been acting different for different people and its per device. I swear. Aug 04 01:29:30 Verizon has a history of this stuff which just make me even angrier at them Aug 04 01:29:40 VZ sux Aug 04 01:29:45 My old Pre's were different than this one. Aug 04 01:29:49 I hate all carriers, but verizon just doesn't get better Aug 04 01:29:55 you had sprint pre's? Aug 04 01:30:05 No, just different Verizon Pre's. Aug 04 01:30:12 oh Aug 04 01:30:16 i'm still on my first Aug 04 01:30:33 i never really thought of exchanging it. i mean, i know it's not gonna fix GPS Aug 04 01:30:45 i just don't have hope I 'spose Aug 04 01:31:04 Plus the Verizon reps are annoying Aug 04 01:31:19 how many Pre's have you had? Aug 04 01:31:37 Ive got no reason to tell a story, ya know. I dropped my first VZW Pre too many times, exchanged it, and then I got metal chips in my external speaker on my 2nd. Aug 04 01:31:43 Im on my 3rd. Aug 04 01:31:52 None were from build quality or GPS issues. Aug 04 01:31:58 ah i see Aug 04 01:32:08 I know the hardware isnt the greatest, but thats not the reason. Aug 04 01:32:08 i've dropped mine more times than i can count Aug 04 01:32:24 but the slider is the only think that's suffered, and it sucked to begin with Aug 04 01:32:24 My screen/slider got hella janky after two drops. I couldnt take it. Aug 04 01:32:36 i know how you feel Aug 04 01:32:55 But I always knew the slider would be shitty Aug 04 01:33:03 So I have low expectations Aug 04 01:33:19 Plus, Verizon knows that I drop my phones Aug 04 01:33:25 haha. Aug 04 01:34:02 My last phone went in a lake... the one before that in a washing machine... the one before that I dropped on the street... Aug 04 01:34:18 they probably have a file on me or something at this point Aug 04 01:34:19 Verizon as a carrier for me......there is no other. It effin solid around here and its all the way out in rural areas where phones shouldnt even exist. Aug 04 01:34:32 Agreed Aug 04 01:34:47 I just have to put up with their BS. Aug 04 01:34:58 Their service rocks, but they just throw in so much crap Aug 04 01:35:25 yeah that's Verizon's problem. They're bullshit addicts. Aug 04 01:35:51 I swear, they just keep finding ways to annoy their customers... it's like they're gambling on how annoyed people get. Aug 04 01:35:55 Do you truly think that VZW will fix GPS with the 1.4.5.x? Aug 04 01:36:08 I highly doubt it Aug 04 01:36:16 but 1.4 fixed the keyboard Aug 04 01:36:23 so one never knows Aug 04 01:36:27 I think VZW is the Microsoft of carriers. The ship is too big to turn for little problems. Aug 04 01:36:36 And it's leaking Aug 04 01:36:58 I think you made a very good analogy. But then What's ATT? Aug 04 01:37:06 Hmmm... Aug 04 01:37:16 I have a slow CPU....please hold.... Aug 04 01:37:22 huh? Aug 04 01:37:28 (thinking) Aug 04 01:37:31 oh Aug 04 01:37:32 sorry Aug 04 01:37:34 lol Aug 04 01:37:41 didn't get the reference for a sec Aug 04 01:37:59 even though i do think of my brain in computing terms sometimes Aug 04 01:39:14 ATT is the new old Verizon. Ive said that before. Theyre making mistakes like keeping Android from side loading. That sounds like something Verizon USED to do. Aug 04 01:39:27 YES Aug 04 01:39:30 Exactly Aug 04 01:39:41 I remember you saying that on the palmcast Aug 04 01:39:47 in the chat Aug 04 01:39:53 yup Aug 04 01:40:02 morning Aug 04 01:40:07 ATT has just had 3 years of no control Aug 04 01:40:10 Hey Rod! Aug 04 01:40:16 with the iphone i mean Aug 04 01:40:19 rod is here! Aug 04 01:40:23 I missed the show man. I wanted to be there for your comments. Aug 04 01:40:35 good show rod Aug 04 01:40:42 It'll be in the podcast feed Aug 04 01:40:42 why weren't you on video too? Aug 04 01:40:52 video is too hard Aug 04 01:41:08 Did rwhitby sing praises of BeeRad being such an awesome Alpha tester? :P Aug 04 01:41:09 oh bandwidth? Aug 04 01:41:10 rwhitby: uses dial-up internet Aug 04 01:41:13 lag across the pacific and my poor upload speeds Aug 04 01:41:27 haha unix Aug 04 01:41:34 nice Aug 04 01:41:40 oh i see Aug 04 01:41:45 uNiXpSyChO: I was shaped to 64Kb/s for a couple of days last week in fact. Aug 04 01:41:56 ouch!! Aug 04 01:42:01 that's enough to give me a tumor Aug 04 01:42:06 a stroke Aug 04 01:42:13 i mean a stroke Aug 04 01:42:17 that's the phrase Aug 04 01:42:23 my mistake Aug 04 01:42:51 9lol Aug 04 01:42:58 I should setup the emulator again, re-acquaint myself with webos Aug 04 01:43:02 Seb, are you OC'd? Aug 04 01:43:06 Yep Aug 04 01:43:11 800 MHz this week Aug 04 01:43:14 Which Aug 04 01:43:15 ummm... sorry, that was a non-sequitor Aug 04 01:43:16 ah ok Aug 04 01:43:21 quick question about the save packaage list Aug 04 01:43:22 i'll go to 1 GHz next week Aug 04 01:43:24 Uber Aug 04 01:43:30 I usually stick to warthog Aug 04 01:43:40 if i have some apps from that list installed or patched and the rest not will it reinstall the installed apps? Aug 04 01:43:45 when i do install all? Aug 04 01:43:49 I went back to Thunderchief.... Aug 04 01:43:50 But whenever a new kernel from unix is out i give it a try Aug 04 01:44:06 Thunderchief is awesome Aug 04 01:44:20 I wanted SR71 to work for me but its just been unstable as hell. Im too stupid to figure out why. Aug 04 01:44:31 SR71 was not working for me Aug 04 01:44:39 random restarts like crazy Aug 04 01:44:45 YES Aug 04 01:44:54 i uninstalled it but it was nice while it lasted in terms of speed Aug 04 01:45:12 I mean, I know clock speed isn't everything but 1.2 GHz is crazy fast Aug 04 01:45:22 but the instability was too much Aug 04 01:45:26 I would go to load Preware......reboot. lol Aug 04 01:45:33 hahaha Aug 04 01:45:46 1.2GHz is crazy fast man. I *love* it. Aug 04 01:45:49 always at the right time Aug 04 01:45:58 I want it to work because the heat was never an issue and neither was battery life. Aug 04 01:46:13 heat wasn't an issue for me either Aug 04 01:46:17 i'm surprised by that Aug 04 01:46:26 but the battery life was Aug 04 01:46:34 rebooting every minute Aug 04 01:46:39 runs down battery life Aug 04 01:46:42 ;) Aug 04 01:46:49 Ok, it wasnt every minute. Aug 04 01:46:58 ok, not every mintue Aug 04 01:46:58 But more than I liked. Aug 04 01:47:08 every 20 minutes at worst Aug 04 01:47:24 but it was always at the most inconvenient times Aug 04 01:47:29 Disclaimer: Im not complaining, just commenting. Aug 04 01:47:35 it was always when I wanted to look something up Aug 04 01:47:41 Same here Aug 04 01:47:57 I don't want to complain either Aug 04 01:48:16 I just want people in Internals to know what we're seeing. Aug 04 01:48:25 Same here Aug 04 01:48:39 If memory serves correct, even the Android crowd was seeing some instability at 1.2GHz. Aug 04 01:49:03 On the Evo right? Aug 04 01:49:08 an Evo which is a 1gig CPU cant handle 1.2gig... a same Aug 04 01:49:11 So if unixpsycho and the crew and get it stable, then they have achieved something that they havent. For sure. Aug 04 01:49:14 and i have one Aug 04 01:49:20 No, on the Droid. Aug 04 01:49:21