**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 23 02:59:56 2010 Aug 23 05:32:52 mooooooooooooooo Aug 23 06:13:44 morning Aug 23 08:20:21 topic Aug 23 08:20:22 oops Aug 23 12:34:02 not sure if this is of any use to anyone here Aug 23 12:34:06 but I found this on my spare hd Aug 23 12:34:07 http://cl.ly/a21d7c8381318fc03f47 Aug 23 12:35:08 it's from a super old build :P I don't even know if this thing get's included in webOS Doctor anymore, haven't been paying attention Aug 23 13:37:27 rwhitby: ping Aug 23 14:43:58 mooooooooooooo Aug 23 14:44:05 meeeooowww Aug 23 14:44:44 silly cat, trix are for kids! Aug 23 14:45:36 wow...palm's support muzak is terrible Aug 23 14:45:41 straight out of the 80s Aug 23 14:45:45 lol Aug 23 14:53:06 I'm extremely bored Aug 23 14:54:22 I should be packing for class, but instead I have decided that all I need is a piece of paper and a pencil. Go College! Aug 23 15:07:03 screw that. just take a laptop Aug 23 15:07:24 and a flask Aug 23 15:07:37 None of mine are charged save for the C90s, and screw taking that thing Aug 23 15:08:27 Somewhere I have the chargera for the other laptops, but im lazy and don't want to look for them Aug 23 15:09:25 Actually, I may not go to class today purely because their repaving the street in front of my house right now Aug 23 16:39:02 usbnet++ Aug 23 19:04:10 anyone here done the overclocking? How big an impact does it have to battery life? Aug 23 19:04:56 i am Aug 23 19:05:06 720mhz/500mhz screenstate Aug 23 19:05:12 still ok battery life Aug 23 19:05:30 did you see any change in life? Aug 23 19:05:47 as a corollary to the subject: has anyone had major issues even with a fairly "sane" over clock like 720mhz? Aug 23 19:06:02 I could see an argument for it improve or worsen Aug 23 19:06:18 i don't see any major issues on 720mht Aug 23 19:06:29 i don't think battery life changed Aug 23 19:06:36 i use 500/800 Aug 23 19:06:37 I think in the end it would come down to how you use it: If it runs faster you might do more which impacts batter life for the negative, or etc etc etc Aug 23 19:07:58 I could it could improve by processing faster you cycle off power usage quicker Aug 23 19:08:19 I could see it.. Aug 23 19:09:35 either way it is good to hear that the impact is not noticeable if at all. Makes you wonder why Palm doesn't just make it part of an update ;-) Aug 23 19:11:49 probably something to do with the fact that not all the Pres can run them ;P Aug 23 19:11:54 Probably because some hardware can't cope. Aug 23 19:11:56 last time i was using sprint nav and charging the phone in a car Aug 23 19:12:09 even something like 720mhz causes a ton of problems on my gf's Pre+ Aug 23 19:12:09 the phone was running at 800Mhz and the temp at that time was 55 celsius Aug 23 19:12:26 mine is running 1Ghz just fine SineOt ;) Aug 23 19:12:40 curious with the overclock what does it do to game play? Games that involve timing to jump things, etc. can be too fast unclocked do they become even harder? Aug 23 19:12:45 yeah, which makes me super sad face that this one has problems at 720mhz :C Aug 23 19:13:35 djk: the games loads faster imho Aug 23 19:15:19 load faster great but what about play interacting so they get effected by the overclock making it move images faster on the screen and more difficult to play? Aug 23 19:21:47 what?! Aug 23 19:22:02 i never heard of something like this :S Aug 23 19:24:39 guess my age is showing. some games at the time were effected by increasing clock speed so they would play faster and faster as the speed increases. Of course that when they didn't consider the cpu speed when coding Aug 23 19:25:16 good programers know better and all webOS programmers are great ;-) Aug 23 19:25:18 Yeah, these days people actually use a clock to tell how long it's been since the last frame. Aug 23 19:39:14 Well, that and old games didn't really have an understanding of vsync Aug 23 19:49:30 Is the new webosdoctor.jar out yet? Aug 23 19:50:13 for which carier? Aug 23 19:50:19 sprint Aug 23 19:50:40 i guess it is... check webos-internals.org Aug 23 19:51:26 yeah, i think so Aug 23 19:51:45 i have two patches that fail to update and was going to try webosrepairutility but the doctor it pulled down is the old one Aug 23 19:51:52 or is it…. 0_o Aug 23 19:52:10 timing, I usually use eval("1234!") to do JS timing ;) Aug 23 20:00:08 djk save package list in preware Aug 23 20:00:09 run EPR Aug 23 20:00:23 and then install all from the saved pacakge list Aug 23 20:03:36 which patches, djk? Aug 23 20:04:02 I noticed that the System Menu Initial Framework can't update if you have any of the patches that rely on it installed... Aug 23 20:04:53 SineOt: the No Auto-Off While Charging, Named Pages in the Launcher Aug 23 20:09:45 i cant seem to update "roam only in device menu" Aug 23 20:10:02 says "unreversed patch detected" Aug 23 20:29:07 preware doesnt seem to be showing up in webos quick install under the webos internals (pre) feed, can anyone help? Aug 23 20:50:27 how crazy has anyone gotten with their mode switcher profiles? Aug 23 22:10:02 Palm is making me nervous Aug 23 22:12:23 I've had an ongoing issue with my palm profile and they keep suggesting that they're not going to transfer my apps if I have to use a new one Aug 23 22:14:02 remember this the next time you read about the Awesome(tm) of cloud computing Aug 23 22:17:05 hello Aug 23 22:17:44 i need some help getting preware on my phne Aug 23 22:20:38 i need help installing preware on my phone Aug 23 22:30:52 Mousey: I won't be accepting that answer...I'm just not looking forward to the fight that will be necessary to resolve the problem Aug 23 22:31:28 one agent tried to tell me there's no way to transfer apps from the old account to the new one Aug 23 22:31:43 which is COMPLETE bs Aug 23 22:31:57 It's just a matter of escalating until I find the person who can. Aug 23 22:32:19 out of curiosity, what's the issue you've been having with your profile? Aug 23 22:32:37 IM accounts won't sign in Aug 23 22:34:43 the third level agent is going through a bunch of troubleshooting steps that I know won't work, but I humored him Aug 23 22:36:15 If you do a full erase and it doesn't work, then sign into a new profile and everything works properly, then obviously the problem is with the profile Aug 23 22:37:50 and no amount of removing and adding accounts is going to fix it Aug 23 22:38:36 idontwan2know: Do a dump of all of the sqllite DBs on a clean profile with the accounts created. Do the same on your broken profile with the accounts created. Compare the two DBs, and then probably manually alter the one on the broken profile to match. Aug 23 22:39:06 idontwan2know: No, I'm not going to walk you through how to do all that, but it's a potential solution to your problem. Aug 23 23:06:15 Mercury: if Palm wants to go through all that with me, they're welcome to Aug 23 23:06:46 I think we both know the simple answer is simply to add the apps from my old profile to the new one and call it a day Aug 23 23:07:18 Mercury, you still about? Aug 23 23:21:11 noradtux: syn|ack Aug 23 23:28:44 I blame oil for my current predicament. Aug 23 23:35:05 I'm in the freaking basement with no cell service. And wifi which doesn't work with my phone. Aug 23 23:36:50 IN THE DARK! Aug 23 23:42:34 use the flashlight patch Aug 23 23:46:27 No service Aug 23 23:46:43 Can't download Aug 23 23:52:54 halfhalo_srv: preparation fail Aug 23 23:53:36 I didn't know I would be in the basement for a freaking class... I didn't even known there were basements Aug 23 23:56:04 what are you on Aug 23 23:57:41 iPad Aug 23 23:57:49 It likes the whiffs Aug 23 23:58:10 Wifis Aug 23 23:58:24 * SineOt but your pre doesn't? Aug 23 23:58:29 Nope Aug 23 23:58:46 Wpa2 enterprise radius Aug 24 01:06:51 Anyone testing KeyBoss, it seems stable to me and needs some real good alpha testing Aug 24 01:10:00 that's the plugin thing for the Virtual Keyboard, right? Aug 24 01:10:46 no, it contains a service method that the VKB can use, but it is its own thing Aug 24 01:11:08 Total keyboard control Aug 24 01:11:30 "total" heh, well more than stock :P Aug 24 01:19:51 ah Aug 24 01:20:12 I should request that VKB adds a Pixi landscape mode c_c Aug 24 01:26:20 getting a pixi in the hands of the developer helps with that :D Aug 24 01:26:32 VKB already works fine on the Pixi :D Aug 24 01:26:35 no it dont Aug 24 01:26:50 it's just that in landscape it assumes a 480 wide screen and not a 400 Aug 24 01:26:57 I've run it before? Aug 24 01:28:26 theres a snake in your boot Aug 24 01:28:37 you should really take care of that Aug 24 01:28:57 now you have me reinstalling it to double check D: Aug 24 01:29:11 I know I've run it before because that's why I know that in landscape it'll overshoot the screen Aug 24 01:35:10 halfhalo: http://71.107.135.61:8080/25CBD/browser_2010-23-08_183151.png @_@ Aug 24 01:35:24 lol Aug 24 01:36:33 yes I know there's a keyboard built in that's easy to get to, but landscape c_c Aug 24 01:58:06 wat Aug 24 01:58:26 hm? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 24 02:59:57 2010