**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 24 02:59:57 2010 Aug 24 03:36:18 is it just me or does the screenstate 500/800 profile turn the cpu to 500 when you plug it in Aug 24 03:36:41 somebody got a bit reversed i think Aug 24 03:37:58 I wondered that. Aug 24 03:38:42 it was put in to manage the heat I believe Aug 24 03:39:07 oh really? Aug 24 03:39:22 charging generates heat...a fair bit actually Aug 24 03:39:26 since it gets pretty hot while charging, Aug 24 03:39:30 that makes some sense Aug 24 03:40:05 Well I suppose that makes some good sense... and I believe I see that as a *fix* put in. Aug 24 03:41:53 I guess I should turn off my custom profile when charging if I am using my Pre. I noticed it go to 800 when charging. Aug 24 03:42:15 doesnt it have some kind of heat sense based cut out too though? Aug 24 03:42:37 Still tough on the hardware. Aug 24 03:43:58 Rubin it has 2 Aug 24 03:59:23 Rubin: the temp limiter is recent. we may decide to change the charging limiter based on that, but have not done so yet Aug 24 04:06:21 it doesnt really bother me much. uber kernel feels way faster even at 500 Aug 24 04:24:02 One of the first things I did when I got my Pre was to install Preware and uber kernel. There is something awesome about being able to say my phone is overclocked. Aug 24 04:27:37 heh Aug 24 04:27:51 its a shame you have to overlcock it just to make it work 'right' Aug 24 04:28:14 i tell you, i'd bail to android if they'd make it as homebrew friendly Aug 24 04:28:29 i cant stand that they actively discurage people from hacking em up Aug 24 04:30:06 eww, oil_pre Aug 24 04:32:25 Eh I wanted a android device but saw how cheap I could get a Pre and went with that due to how hackable it is for the price. Aug 24 04:54:57 moooo Aug 24 04:55:26 moo Aug 24 05:01:03 who knows, maybe hp will come through with some better hardware Aug 24 05:03:10 I dunno... I'm not going to hold out hope... though that would be nice. Aug 24 06:28:56 man the widk is great Aug 24 06:28:56 :) Aug 24 06:29:01 gj guys :D Aug 24 06:32:12 dtzWill: haven't you used widk before? Aug 24 06:37:21 rwhitby: no not really :/. Aug 24 07:36:20 did anyone have to apply extra work to the webos system to get usb networking going? perhaps ip-tables, or extra configuration to the dnsmasq ( not mentioned in tutorial) ? Aug 24 08:01:01 morning Aug 24 08:01:34 ping Aug 24 08:01:57 http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/08/23/right-on-time-verizon-phasing-out-pre-plus-storm2-curve-8530/ Aug 24 08:22:38 rwhitby: hi Aug 24 08:22:45 hi Aug 24 08:23:07 I pushed a navit version that my work on Pixi yesterday Aug 24 08:24:00 the problem is that the update does not show up in preware, the newer version is on ipkg.preware.org though Aug 24 08:24:16 I changed the name slightly: Aug 24 08:24:18 org.webosinternals.navit_0.2.0.3537-1_arm.ipk Aug 24 08:24:33 to org.webosinternals.navit_0.2.0.3537-2_armv7.ipk Aug 24 08:25:37 now both show up in the Packages-file. Seem as if preware only shows the first entry Aug 24 08:27:56 it showed up today Aug 24 08:28:00 in preware Aug 24 08:28:32 0.2.0.3537-2 ? Aug 24 08:28:40 I only see -1 Aug 24 08:28:45 yeah -2 Aug 24 08:29:03 but maybe -2 is only in the testing feed? Aug 24 08:29:09 yes Aug 24 08:29:23 search for navit in preware Aug 24 08:29:30 but be sure, I have that feed set up ;) Aug 24 08:29:30 it shows one entry ... 0.2.0.3537-2 Aug 24 08:29:57 ok, strange, now I see -2 aswell Aug 24 08:30:54 any pixi-users in here? Aug 24 08:31:22 ← Aug 24 08:31:27 I have no clue if this does even start in a pixi ;) Aug 24 08:31:41 not yet, i'll have one soon Aug 24 08:31:56 would be very nice if someone could test the pixi-package :) Aug 24 08:32:14 k- has one? Aug 24 08:37:29 oh, speechd didn't update in testing yet Aug 24 08:37:50 oh, forgot to push the binaries, done Aug 24 08:40:33 mhm Aug 24 09:37:00 rwhitby: is there a fixed schedule for autobuilder to build new packages? Aug 24 10:44:34 rehi Aug 24 12:15:04 Hi, I have just installed Navit on a Pre with UberKernel and sadly the application does not start at all. I have are European O2 device if that matters... Aug 24 12:15:41 also, I am trying to find a way to edit a phone number prior to call without adding it as a new contact... Aug 24 12:16:21 hi Aug 24 12:16:53 damada: i have a european device as well and navit works Aug 24 12:17:54 swisstomcat: hmm, any idea why it won't start at all? in the launcher, the icons gets highlighted and that's it Aug 24 12:18:23 i assume you're on webOS 1.4.5 Aug 24 12:18:27 after about 3 secs the highlighting is gone again :( and nothing happened Aug 24 12:18:34 swisstomcat: yes, of course :) Aug 24 12:18:43 O2 pushed in in July iirc Aug 24 12:18:47 yeah Aug 24 12:18:56 you installed that over the air? Aug 24 12:19:05 yes, no apparent error Aug 24 12:19:08 (not via the webos-doctor) Aug 24 12:19:18 no, preware Aug 24 12:19:20 fstab fixer! Aug 24 12:19:32 en0x: ah? that 1.4.5 bug? Aug 24 12:19:38 yap Aug 24 12:19:38 yeah Aug 24 12:19:43 it's in preware too Aug 24 12:19:59 install it reboot run navit Aug 24 12:20:00 ;) Aug 24 12:20:02 lets try :) Aug 24 12:20:03 search for fstab or fstab fixer Aug 24 12:20:05 that should do it Aug 24 12:20:31 makes sense, since navit is able to used offline maps, huh? Aug 24 12:21:09 it stores info in /media/internal Aug 24 12:21:12 I can only find Emergency Fstab Fixer ? Is that it? Aug 24 12:21:18 yeah Aug 24 12:21:19 damada: that's it Aug 24 12:21:27 OK, installing Aug 24 12:21:28 damada: and don't foget to install a map => http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Navit Aug 24 12:21:43 yes, and you need a map Aug 24 12:21:48 s/foget/forget/ Aug 24 12:21:48 hape meant: damada: and don't forget to install a map => http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Navit Aug 24 12:21:50 hape, OK, haven't thought about that# Aug 24 12:21:52 and the first start of navit will take a few seconds Aug 24 12:22:06 OK restarting... Aug 24 12:22:30 yep, specialy when you switched back from USB mode. can be 20-30 seconds Aug 24 12:26:19 map data is quite a lot... it this generated on the fly? Aug 24 12:28:37 hape: can I savely start navit without a map installed? just to check? Aug 24 12:32:29 damada: i dont see why not Aug 24 12:34:35 hurra, works :) Aug 24 12:36:50 yay Aug 24 12:37:41 damada: yes you can Aug 24 12:37:59 very very nice :) Aug 24 12:38:07 and super responsive ! Aug 24 12:38:18 you should get the OSD. Tap anywhere to open the menu Aug 24 12:38:41 mapdata for germany is about 500MB Aug 24 12:39:49 OK, good enough Aug 24 14:08:48 hi! I'm reading about change my Pre kernel... is really good do this? I like more battery (with 3G 1 day, with Edge 1.5 days, it's poor!) Aug 24 14:09:09 hola xota Aug 24 14:09:26 buenas swisstomcat :) Aug 24 14:10:10 battery life should stay about the same but your device will run faster Aug 24 14:12:20 I read about two kernels, UberKernel updated "this month" and F102A updated last week. anybody can say me the differences between them? Aug 24 14:22:09 swisstomcat: did you try != kernels? what's the difference between F102A and UberKernel? who is better? Aug 24 14:22:21 i use uberkernel Aug 24 14:22:35 i think f102a is a specialized kernel Aug 24 14:24:51 ok, I'm going to test it, and made some confs with govnah. I hope don't break it :p see u! Thanks! Aug 24 14:24:59 careful with that Aug 24 14:25:04 what model do you have? Aug 24 14:25:18 Palm Pre (from Spain) Aug 24 14:25:27 meh, try both. Aug 24 14:25:34 keep an eye on the temps Aug 24 14:25:51 works fine here with 720mhz Aug 24 14:25:52 both? Uber % F102A? Aug 24 14:26:05 xota: keep an eye on the temperature for any kernel Aug 24 14:26:10 uber for me Aug 24 14:26:22 i've tried both, it's up to you Aug 24 14:26:51 nebula: what device do you have? Aug 24 14:27:17 If a Uber go better than F102A in the Pre, aren't all Pres better with this kernel? Aug 24 14:27:18 pre plus vz Aug 24 14:27:42 it's best to read the documentation that comes with each kernel Aug 24 14:27:46 they're very specific Aug 24 14:29:10 ok, I will do it! Aug 24 14:29:13 thanks both! Aug 24 17:10:34 dang Aug 24 17:10:46 so i was just reading about the uberkernel Aug 24 17:10:55 so fun! Aug 24 19:08:17 good afternoon all Aug 24 19:09:02 just wanted to stop in and see if anyone else is having trouble with their webos twitter clients today Aug 24 19:09:20 yap Aug 24 19:09:28 some issues with twitter api Aug 24 19:09:44 i heard that too .. mentions not working Aug 24 19:10:25 main timeline died for me, but mentions, DMs, etc still work using tweed Aug 24 19:13:20 thanks, I just wanted to confirm that it wasn't a pebkac error Aug 24 19:31:12 anybody know how to deal with an issue where installing of apps never completes until luna is restarted? Aug 24 19:32:55 you're looking for an answer besides 'restart luna', yes? ;) Aug 24 19:33:16 yes, besides that :) Aug 24 19:33:20 xcomp: using wqosi? Aug 24 19:33:32 it's rather annoying not to be able to install stuff from the catalog without restarting luna Aug 24 19:33:59 en0x: quick installer? haven't used that in a long time Aug 24 19:35:56 rwhitby probably knows what's causing it... Aug 24 20:45:48 can anyone point me to which feed contains the kernel updates in preware? Aug 24 20:51:19 ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-kernels/ Aug 24 21:12:11 found it, problem was i needed to update preware Aug 24 21:33:20 yay wirc Aug 24 21:35:34 wirc works so you can work while you wirc Aug 24 22:18:03 Svn sucks Aug 24 22:18:58 It really does Aug 24 22:24:02 halfhalo_srv: lol yep Aug 24 22:25:34 Purely because it requires apache for some stuff Aug 24 22:25:38 Grrrr apache Aug 24 22:27:35 n8 everyone Aug 25 01:47:33 hey, is anyone else having trouble seeing the package manager service on the internal feeds? Aug 25 01:50:02 You shouldn't need it any more Aug 25 01:51:24 very Aug 25 01:51:37 oh oops, the left already :9 Aug 25 01:51:46 lol, i was responding to the palm cast in here ... Aug 25 01:51:54 why in the world ask a question then leave in less than 60 seconds Aug 25 02:10:13 anyone tried the VNC client PDK app yet? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 25 02:59:57 2010