**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 06 02:59:57 2010 Sep 06 05:38:12 good morning Sep 06 06:07:03 morning Sep 06 06:49:18 morning Sep 06 08:03:17 how do I delete feeds? Sep 06 08:04:09 slide-to-delete Sep 06 08:04:13 like in all other lists Sep 06 10:52:18 re Sep 06 11:19:17 is anyone else getting errors in preware when updating feeds? Sep 06 11:27:45 might be your internet connection Sep 06 11:30:18 it's been happening for a few days now and connections are fine elseware Sep 06 11:30:51 which feeds are failing? Sep 06 11:31:17 I either get no available applications, or just 58 or so, missing several feeds including the patch feed Sep 06 11:32:08 hmm Sep 06 11:32:58 the only ones that are working are optware and palm beta Sep 06 12:20:06 i wish the feed updating would happen in the background Sep 06 12:20:25 version 2 Sep 06 12:20:30 i reduced my feed to the bare minimum and it still takes much to long to start preware Sep 06 12:20:42 that was something i suggested when we first made preware and oil shot it down Sep 06 12:20:45 thought it was stupid Sep 06 12:20:55 patches welcome ;) Sep 06 12:21:03 preware v2 should have a DB backend i heard? Sep 06 12:21:20 that's cause you can't do it effectively until we get a suitable database backend like db8 Sep 06 12:28:21 einalex: how would you expect the user experience to be handled when you're looking at the list of everything, and the set of packages is changing dynamically under you - how will you react to the packages you are looking at in that list suddenly moving around and changing without you touching the screen? Sep 06 12:29:10 that seems like an issue that exists regardless of the backend used Sep 06 12:29:20 rwhitby: how about this. you have an option in preware to check for changes every foo s/m/h Sep 06 12:29:31 but while you're in preware all that is halted Sep 06 12:29:39 and you work on the set you have Sep 06 12:29:53 you get the option to manually update Sep 06 12:30:01 so u want scheduled updates Sep 06 12:30:16 why not? Sep 06 12:30:24 that would be easy Sep 06 12:30:37 if preware has a startup arg for updating the feeds Sep 06 12:30:40 once daily is enough for me. if i want something that just came out I can always update manually Sep 06 12:31:18 once there is a app that lets u schedule tasks we can do that Sep 06 12:31:26 else preware would have to be open all the time i think Sep 06 12:32:08 or you'd have to split it in a server and a client or logic / gui part Sep 06 12:32:38 the service could do it too i forgot Sep 06 12:33:36 well all it does is ipkg update right? Sep 06 12:33:40 just use terminal Sep 06 12:33:43 and add that to your cron Sep 06 12:34:35 if that's all it does....that's the quickest near-perfect solution Sep 06 12:41:03 but the "loading package information" thingy takes forever as well... so Sep 06 12:41:21 that's doesn't quite fix the problem Sep 06 12:42:46 yeah that few seconds is really inconvenient ;) Sep 06 15:54:14 ~seen dtzWill Sep 06 15:54:27 dtzwill is currently on #webos-internals, last said: 'it did all the work :D'. Sep 06 16:00:25 hi all Sep 06 16:02:27 hello Sep 06 16:03:23 i need a litle hint abount the sdk --- i search for a md5 function Sep 06 16:04:40 I haven't really used it much, sorry Sep 06 16:04:47 I do mostly sysadmin type stuff, lol Sep 06 16:04:59 you happened to catch the one webos internals guy that doesn't make apps, LOL Sep 06 16:05:05 (well, one of two) Sep 06 16:05:10 but lets see if we can find something Sep 06 16:05:19 oh thats interesting --- i am a sysadmin :D Sep 06 16:05:34 could you describe what you are trying to do? Sep 06 16:05:39 at the moment i code a one time password generator (check motp.sf.net) Sep 06 16:06:09 just a litle calculator --- use time+secret+one time pin and do a md5 over all Sep 06 16:06:16 ok, so you are looking for some kind of a function to md5sum a string (or some kind of input) Sep 06 16:06:33 yes, thats what i looking for Sep 06 16:06:47 well, you could use any javascript implimentation of md5 Sep 06 16:06:48 you are cryptk yo Sep 06 16:06:54 you must know it :D Sep 06 16:07:04 it doesn't need to be an SDK thing Sep 06 16:07:11 lol just a joke Sep 06 16:07:19 lol, true, my name would imply that I would be the one to ask, LOL Sep 06 16:08:04 javascript md5? --- mh that meens the sdk have nothing --- ok thanks let me search a javascript thing Sep 06 16:08:43 http://membres-liglab.imag.fr/donsez/cours/exemplescourstechnoweb/js_securehash/md5src.html Sep 06 16:08:53 racs-net: there is a javascript implimentation of the MD5 algorithm Sep 06 16:09:04 http://membres-liglab.imag.fr/donsez/cours/exemplescourstechnoweb/js_securehash/ Sep 06 16:09:08 there is the main page Sep 06 16:09:15 they have them for MD4, MD5 and SHA-1 Sep 06 16:09:21 hey cool you are greate Sep 06 16:09:27 np man Sep 06 16:09:39 lorg google and I are pretty tight... he tells me what I need to know Sep 06 16:09:48 s/lorg/lord/ Sep 06 16:09:48 cryptk meant: lord google and I are pretty tight... he tells me what I need to know Sep 06 16:10:34 lol i just searched for webos sdk and md5 --- stupid for me :) Sep 06 16:11:52 hehe, yep, it is all javascript, HTML and CSS, so that opens alot of possibilities Sep 06 16:13:41 yes but it lacks a little dummy how to for me ;-) --- do you know the oreilly book? Sep 06 19:27:26 geist, ping Sep 06 19:32:36 I wonder if he's up yet Sep 06 19:33:56 ah, labor day Sep 06 19:35:14 sup Sep 06 19:35:27 yeah, got up a little while ago. was just playin the drums Sep 06 19:36:00 I've managed pants. Beyond that it has not been a productive morning Sep 06 19:37:44 yeah, pretty much Sep 06 19:42:39 normal day here Sep 06 19:42:53 sucks for u Sep 06 19:42:54 :P Sep 06 19:46:05 good evening Sep 06 19:46:16 this webOS 2.0 build on my pre rocks... Sep 06 19:47:17 just made a request to chuq, to get webos 2beta. Sep 06 19:47:35 u wont get it anyway :p Sep 06 19:50:48 why? Sep 06 19:51:12 coz steve jobs dont want u to have it Sep 06 19:51:13 :P Sep 06 19:51:28 hi noaxess Sep 06 19:51:39 en0x: whaaa? Sep 06 19:52:23 en0x: Sep 06 19:53:11 ?? I talk witk lt, linus trovals yesterday.. so don't know steve jobs.... Sep 06 19:54:44 hehe Sep 06 19:58:27 @cryptk thanks again --- one time password is running now :) Sep 06 20:24:05 hi. Sep 06 20:24:31 got a question for my first open source app... Sep 06 20:24:45 oh saw topic Sep 06 20:24:49 my fault :( Sep 06 20:24:51 :( Sep 06 20:25:45 better get my way out. Sep 06 20:27:26 That was unusual Sep 06 20:28:24 hrm, yeah Sep 06 20:34:01 lol Sep 06 21:02:10 http://revision3.com/diggreel/hotgamergirls Sep 06 21:02:13 LMA0 Sep 06 21:05:39 ooops I tottally posted this in thw rong irc Sep 06 21:05:48 uhhhh crap Sep 06 21:09:45 deadbeef ...gotta love it. Sep 06 22:20:10 here's a question: Is it possible to patch AppCatalog apps? Sep 06 22:24:20 sure Sep 06 23:17:01 cryptk: pong Sep 07 00:24:57 anyone know a way to show thumnails for downloaded videos? Sep 07 00:31:15 it needs a computer, but I'm fairly sure that using the MP4 poster frame atom lets you show album art on the phone Sep 07 00:31:55 i wonder if vlc from optware could do it Sep 07 00:32:19 maybe? idk Sep 07 00:32:44 I just use iTunes ;p Sep 07 00:32:58 since if it's something that I want on my phone chances are pretty high it's something I've already got on my computer Sep 07 00:33:03 vlc bitches when i run as root Sep 07 00:33:05 sad Sep 07 01:23:53 test **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 07 02:59:57 2010