**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 09 02:59:57 2010 Sep 09 03:02:58 hola! :) Sep 09 03:26:45 anyone here use/try supernes? Sep 09 03:29:06 Sorry, I'm not a console gamer. Actually, I'm not much of a gamer at all. :-S Sep 09 03:34:53 DougReeder: no worries :). Sep 09 03:35:16 looking to submit to app cat soon and hoping to chat with someone who's used it to try to see if it's ready :) Sep 09 03:35:46 What's your app? Sep 09 03:35:53 DougReeder: supernes :) Sep 09 03:36:11 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/260717-supernes-snes-emulator.html etc Sep 09 03:36:13 Ah, it's now clear. Sep 09 03:38:30 :) Sep 09 05:29:02 supernes, cryptk's app (i can't remember wtf it's called/spell it), supertux Sep 09 05:29:45 ...i forgot where i was going with that Sep 09 05:38:59 so what's new Sep 09 11:05:10 Hi, what is a normal value for Load average in Govnah when no card is open? Sep 09 11:06:08 I have the problem that the Pre is not loading on the Touchstone from time to time (mostly when the battery is below 40%) and tryto find the problem. Sep 09 11:06:20 I epect a map app is srtill running Sep 09 11:38:42 load average is most of the time 0.26 0.41 1.33 Sep 09 14:44:32 hello all, I have a palm pre and was wondering if there was a way to bypass the requirement for a sim card, not using it as a phone so I don't need a sim card Sep 09 14:48:13 Nalum: i believe u need to buy a german pre that is unlocked Sep 09 14:48:41 but i don't know nearly as much as half the people in this room. Sep 09 14:48:51 just what i read from forums Sep 09 14:49:52 ah, i see, thanks boboy Sep 09 14:50:12 http://blog.rebelsimcard.com/palm-pre-unlocked-from-o2-and-working-on-any-networkfor-voice-data-and-3g.htm Sep 09 14:50:18 there is that Sep 09 14:53:47 cool thank you Sep 09 17:25:29 Hi. So, I'm one of the sorry Verizon customers who is getting f'd over by Verizon refusing to update WebOS. Subsequently, I can't run any new apps on my Pre Plus. Is there any way I can force install a new WebOS update or is there too much carrier-specific information in the updates? Sep 09 19:01:39 egaudet oil ping Sep 09 19:16:45 hi Sep 09 19:17:00 I can't see who's pinging, name is in bright yello Sep 09 19:18:27 it was jhojho Sep 09 19:18:48 egaudet: lol you need wirc 030 Sep 09 19:19:06 we were curious about some drpodder-hb/preware exception line in the log Sep 09 19:19:13 egaudet: I was telling drnull about your comments re that palminitFramework error Sep 09 19:19:32 2010-09-08T23:03:50.233856Z [612] palm-webos-device user.crit LunaSysMgr: {LunaSysMgrJS}: org.webosinternals.preware: Error: EXCEPTION [infoLoad#parse (com.drnull.drpodder-hb)], (SyntaxError): "Unexpected identifier", palmInitFramework347:2527 Sep 09 19:26:56 jhojho: I'm on irssi not wirc :P Sep 09 19:27:07 even more phail Sep 09 19:27:24 oil said that was most likely something off in the feed json Sep 09 19:27:58 so more related to the precentral feed than appinfo.json? Sep 09 19:28:20 Hrm, screenstate at 125/800 seems to be chewing through batteries like mad. Sep 09 19:28:35 which kernel? Sep 09 19:28:56 UberKernel Sep 09 19:29:06 drnull: I assume so yeah Sep 09 19:32:06 any possibility that uberkernal for pixi can go over 600? Sep 09 19:32:30 any development on pixi uberkernal? Sep 09 19:32:51 * Mercury tries the uberkernel default profile. Sep 09 19:33:06 Mercury, I'd try warthog as it might give you better battery life Sep 09 19:33:25 ka6sox-work: Still reasonably safe? Sep 09 19:33:36 (As much as uberkernel is, anyhow.) Sep 09 19:33:37 500/1000 is fine for me Sep 09 19:33:40 I've not had any problems with it in a month) Sep 09 19:33:55 1ghz is fine with battery for me Sep 09 19:33:59 I wouldn't set it slow with screen off Sep 09 19:34:11 maximize your idle! :P Sep 09 19:34:15 Mercury, I've got it on both the pre and the pixi with no problems Sep 09 19:34:44 also...the Pre/Pixi do race to Idle so slower might not be necessarily less power. Sep 09 19:34:59 Hmm. Sep 09 19:35:23 would be a good curve to look @ Sep 09 19:35:36 yes to pixi kernel dev Sep 09 19:35:40 no to overclocking Sep 09 19:35:47 tried. crashed and burned Sep 09 19:35:50 jhojho: the source json is busted Sep 09 19:36:04 * halfhalo blames oil Sep 09 19:36:04 either from feed, or status file, or control file, or wherever we load it Sep 09 19:36:07 no Sep 09 19:36:15 well Sep 09 19:36:16 yes Sep 09 19:36:24 the fact you see the exception and preware doesn't crash is totally my fault Sep 09 19:36:26 you're welcome Sep 09 19:36:28 you can try an overclocked pixi kernel Sep 09 19:36:34 http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/wos/uImage-pixi <--- gsm pixi Sep 09 19:36:44 * halfhalo gives oil a cookie Sep 09 19:36:50 overclocked pixi to what? fastest right now is 600 right? Sep 09 19:36:52 http://commondatastorage.googleapis.com/wos/uImage-pixi-sprint <--- sprint Sep 09 19:36:57 Mercury, part of the problem is all the logging and powerd waking up a LOT. Sep 09 19:36:58 try membooting it. Sep 09 19:37:02 it doesnt work for me Sep 09 19:37:16 I think it was to 960mhz Sep 09 19:37:41 thats the next jump available based on the pll clocks Sep 09 19:37:49 ka6sox-work: What is powerd doing when it's awake? Sep 09 19:38:19 since its a palm thing I don't know everything. Sep 09 19:38:48 ka6sox-work: And where is the warthog kernel hiding? I see the Delta Dagger one from the warbird series, but nothing else aside from the UberKernel and the stock Palm kernel. Sep 09 19:39:42 its in testing Sep 09 19:39:58 but I've been using them for both pre and pixi. Sep 09 19:40:15 * Mercury nods. Sep 09 19:45:27 bbl Sep 09 19:45:37 let me know if those pixi kernels boot Sep 09 20:27:46 sup people Sep 09 20:34:44 sup puff Sep 09 20:34:46 no se ingles Sep 09 21:29:16 Is anyone here familiar with the usbtest module? Sep 09 21:31:35 anyone here to answer a Govnah question? Sep 09 21:32:01 the best way to get an answer is to just ask and hang out Sep 09 21:32:05 it'll get answered eventually Sep 09 21:32:23 ok...here goes... Sep 09 21:33:03 has anyone had an issue w/ Govnah where when doing Screenstate 500/800 it gets stuck in 500 mode? Sep 09 21:34:07 not that I've noticed..it wont switch to screenstate 500/800 on boot though, you have to open govnah every boot Sep 09 21:36:39 the boot thing I can live with. I just tried putting into 500/800 from the palm 500 default & it went 800. then I closed/reopened Govnah & it went back to 500 Sep 09 21:37:13 odd Sep 09 21:38:06 I wondered if a patch is somehow interfering. been playing with adding/removing to see if I can nail it down Sep 10 00:16:02 stop being dead in here Sep 10 00:16:08 oil is mad Sep 10 00:16:21 lol Sep 10 00:17:27 don't be mad oil, be rad :Q Sep 10 00:17:30 hah Sep 10 00:20:32 * halfhalo is using wirc in a special web demo thingie Sep 10 00:20:43 oh? Sep 10 00:20:54 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/213722-wirc-webos-irc-client-10.html#post2652540 Sep 10 00:20:56 * halfhalo will show oil when its sorta working Sep 10 00:21:10 should have never wrote lumberjack xD Sep 10 00:24:10 why? xD Sep 10 00:24:16 I'd imagine that it's at least partly helpful Sep 10 00:25:37 it was Sep 10 00:25:52 except the bug was already listed in trac :) Sep 10 00:26:18 trac is retarded Sep 10 00:27:05 * Loudergood is seriously annoyed by his college's wireless system Sep 10 00:27:40 i thought we were switching to redmine or something? Sep 10 00:27:54 mebe Sep 10 00:28:26 not everyone reads (or even knows about) Trac ;P Sep 10 00:28:46 that guy definitely does Sep 10 01:06:00 does anyone know what source package dhclient-script is in? Sep 10 01:09:40 hmm a 404 error on iptables under 1.4.5 Sep 10 01:16:48 hi Sep 10 01:21:31 evening Sep 10 01:22:39 Loudergood: do a grep in /usr/lib/ipkg/info/*.list Sep 10 01:23:04 root@palm-webos-device:/# grep dhclient-script /usr/lib/ipkg/info/*.list Sep 10 01:23:04 /usr/lib/ipkg/info/dhcp-client.list:/sbin/dhclient-script Sep 10 01:23:05 /usr/lib/ipkg/info/pmwsfwanblade.list:/etc/wan.d/dhclient-script Sep 10 01:23:50 the first one is the one you want Sep 10 01:24:31 oh I know where it is on the system, however I think I may have screwed it up, so I need a copy I can trust Sep 10 01:24:51 grab one from an unpacked webos doctor Sep 10 01:25:11 good call, I don't know why I didn't think of that Sep 10 01:25:14 meta-doctor has an unpack-doctor script Sep 10 01:28:42 I have to mess with it to get the hotspot auth page to actually show up when I'm on campus, since some trick it pulls doesn't get along well with the dhcp client Sep 10 01:30:15 off topic but anyone ever seen a plane in a satalite photo before? google map these coords 38.750113,-104.805686 Sep 10 01:30:49 Ah pitty the fool who messes with mah source code! Sep 10 01:31:12 and i mean a plane in the air. not sitting on the runway Sep 10 01:31:19 manned? Sep 10 01:31:53 i would assume its a little big to be a UAV Sep 10 01:37:30 where's its shadow? Sep 10 01:37:53 is it the blue stuff Sep 10 01:39:42 hey rwhitby Sep 10 01:40:16 hey b3ll Sep 10 01:40:24 how's it goin Sep 10 01:40:37 it's friday, so good. Sep 10 01:42:25 bah Sep 10 01:42:43 not yet here :\ Sep 10 01:43:01 Its thursday night... close enough Sep 10 01:47:22 who all is maintaining the patches feeD? Sep 10 01:47:40 fairies and unicorns! Sep 10 01:48:10 schweet Sep 10 01:51:48 i would think it would be rwhitby and pals who do the patch feeds. In fact, I would bet on it :p Sep 10 01:52:41 what what Sep 10 01:53:53 aids in my wirc Sep 10 01:54:05 ? Sep 10 01:54:24 what Sep 10 01:54:28 oh Sep 10 01:54:57 just randomly decides it is disconnected when it isnt Sep 10 01:55:45 * halfhalo blames the unicorns Sep 10 01:56:37 halfhalo: i figured as much since they moved it from dbsooners site to the webos-internals site... Sep 10 02:02:38 there is a number of people with access to moderate the feed Sep 10 02:03:37 xenoph0be: you need a patch removed, right? that's not easy, since we need to deal with people who have already installed it. can you submit a corrected patch instead? Sep 10 02:05:45 oh, oh, a patch that erases stuff? Sep 10 02:05:47 * halfhalo is all ears Sep 10 02:06:36 yeah, what's it do? Sep 10 02:07:05 makes it explode Sep 10 02:07:13 * halfhalo wants it Sep 10 02:07:29 then all the pieces come back together to form a pre2 Sep 10 02:07:47 .me will pass Sep 10 02:07:52 ... Sep 10 02:07:56 fail Sep 10 02:08:01 * halfhalo fails at typing today Sep 10 02:08:19 I want it if it'll blow my Pixi up and make a Pre2 :V Sep 10 02:08:42 well, it would, but it still wouldn't have wifi Sep 10 02:08:50 new phone will be called the Current Sep 10 02:09:02 I already deal with 250kbps 3G :T Sep 10 02:09:48 Sprint rolled out 4G in this area, and it's sad :< Sep 10 02:10:05 Home DSL: ~3000kbps, Sprint 4G: ~7600kbps Sep 10 02:10:46 rwhitby: thanks. Sep 10 02:11:15 Home internet: 15MBps Sep 10 02:11:17 :p Sep 10 02:15:25 ahh I want 4G, miami soon hopefully Sep 10 02:16:17 As long as my net connection is faster and more stable than rwhitby's I'm content Sep 10 02:16:29 boboysdadda: no report of that anywhere I can see Sep 10 02:16:32 His country sets the bar for what the rest of us should want to be better than Sep 10 02:16:39 lol Sep 10 02:16:55 tmzt_: sorry i thought we were speaking in fairy tails since we are talking about the pre2 Sep 10 02:17:04 oh Sep 10 02:17:33 I can't believe google images doesn't have a single result of a "fairy's tale" Sep 10 02:18:09 i didn't expect to be taken seriously otherwise i would have made my type seem more sarcastic Sep 10 02:18:20 chrisA: you have a typo thats why Sep 10 02:18:23 its spelled tail Sep 10 02:18:52 no, I actually searched for tail. It's hard for me to type that mistake here though Sep 10 02:21:37 wtf....... theres a new table being backed up on the mysql db.... Sep 10 02:22:41 the name is... suggestive Sep 10 02:28:49 halfhalo: is it called... sexytime? Sep 10 02:29:02 no... Sep 10 02:29:30 anal_videos...... Sep 10 02:29:35 ;o Sep 10 02:30:07 it stants for analysis videos, but still.... Sep 10 02:30:34 epic Sep 10 02:30:56 irc from treo that can't be fun. or is it just tether **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 10 02:59:57 2010