**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 13 02:59:57 2010 Sep 13 03:43:01 Hi. Does anyone know a good way to parse: luna-send -n 1 "palm://com.palm.applicati onManager/listLaunchPoints" "{}" > /media/internal/applist.txt 2>&1 Sep 13 03:45:57 yep Sep 13 03:46:23 what's the end goal? Sep 13 03:48:36 to view the installed applications in a speadsheet Sep 13 03:48:47 it's json Sep 13 03:52:43 rwhitby: yes, i see, there are numerous ways to parse json. am using F3 to find next "}"and Enter in a text editor currently. i think i can trim the head of the file to do it programatically. Sep 13 03:53:47 dem json is the bomb Sep 13 03:55:16 halfhalo: gues I picked the wrong week to learn python. Sep 13 03:55:49 Python must have a json parser module Sep 13 03:55:59 yup Sep 13 03:56:11 Don't know how to use it, but I know its there Sep 13 03:56:40 http://docs.python.org/library/json.html Sep 13 03:56:45 that's how you use it, apparently Sep 13 03:57:03 F3 right right right Enter, is kinda fun, tho Sep 13 03:58:07 * rwhitby would do a keyboard macro in emacs Sep 13 03:58:41 * halfhalo would just parse it using node Sep 13 04:00:11 * sethron realized i can record keystrokes on line 129 out of 130 with Notepad++ Sep 13 04:00:11 * ka6sox would do something in bash Sep 13 04:00:35 OH GOD THE BASH! Sep 13 04:47:41 python also has simplejson Sep 13 04:47:43 iirc Sep 13 05:22:03 So for anyone who has used an iPhone before, and (of course) a Pre. Sep 13 05:22:08 Speaking as an iPhone user. Sep 13 05:22:21 How does Preware compare to Cydia, both user-wise and implementation wise? Sep 13 05:23:13 somline_: ping Sep 13 05:23:35 Xuzz: I can tell you all about Preware, but never used an iPhone Sep 13 05:23:45 That'd be cool :P. Sep 13 05:23:56 How does ipkg compare to dpkg/apt? Sep 13 05:24:16 they all get the job done Sep 13 05:24:25 Preware doesn't use much of ipkg though Sep 13 05:25:29 Preware replicates Palm's package installation mechanisms, rather than trying to implement a parallel package manager on the device. Sep 13 05:26:46 package managers are just tools - a means to an end rather than an end in themselves Sep 13 05:28:10 oh heh Sep 13 05:28:32 What does it use to parse the list of packages, rwhitby ? Sep 13 05:29:02 Xuzz: javascript Sep 13 05:29:16 Like, sorry, what format are they? Sep 13 05:29:28 I know that on the iPhone, we are having issues parsing the packages lists fast enough, and that's in C :P. Sep 13 05:29:29 ipkg Packages file Sep 13 05:29:34 oh, wow. Sep 13 05:29:39 About how many packages are there? Sep 13 05:29:47 4000 Sep 13 05:29:53 Does it take long? Sep 13 05:30:06 a little while, yes. Sep 13 05:30:25 Minute? 5 minutes? Sep 13 05:30:36 well less than a minute Sep 13 05:30:40 oh, wow Sep 13 05:30:53 that seems similar to Apt's Packages files, heh Sep 13 05:32:27 ok, I just timed it. about a minute for 4600 packages Sep 13 05:33:53 Preware Gen 2 is going to use db8 and couchdb server syncing Sep 13 05:39:20 rwhitby: Thanks for the info! Sep 13 05:40:36 Xuzz: no worries - why the interest? Sep 13 05:42:08 rwhitby: Just interested to see how a different platform does it. Sep 13 05:42:22 rwhitby: Since it's not like Android has anything like Preware or Cydia. Sep 13 05:42:31 (which, btw, /sucks/) Sep 13 05:42:50 cydia is irritatingly slow Sep 13 05:42:58 rwhitby: people occasionally revolt against my usage of apt Sep 13 05:43:11 * summatusmentis is embarassed Sep 13 05:43:46 (the /sucks/ there was at Android, btw, not Cydia saurik( Sep 13 05:44:01 Xuzz: I got that, but I'm correlating multiple channels Sep 13 05:44:05 ah Sep 13 05:44:08 k Sep 13 05:44:32 it's possible it's my 1st gen iPod touch's fault tooo Sep 13 05:44:34 too* Sep 13 05:44:45 summatusmentis: Very possibly ;). Sep 13 18:31:25 is it possible to install htop on my pre? Sep 13 18:31:42 I see it's all linux, just not sure how to compile stuff custom Sep 13 18:32:12 * halfhalo doesn't do cross compile linuxy type stuff Sep 13 18:32:21 Its possible, however, that much I know Sep 13 18:33:28 can preware install stuff pre-compiled Sep 13 18:33:36 is preware still based on optware? Sep 13 18:33:40 I assume so, but I'm having trouble finding instructions Sep 13 18:33:45 if so, you probably just need an optware package Sep 13 18:34:29 http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Optware/AddAPackageToOptware Sep 13 18:34:36 if its an ipkg it can Sep 13 18:34:49 (if preware is, in fact, still based on/allows optware packages) Sep 13 18:35:09 rwhitby would know Sep 13 18:35:48 hi Sep 13 18:36:21 I think I have ssh via that method Sep 13 18:36:49 I know preware used to be based on optware, and I know many optware packages were available for the pre Sep 13 18:36:57 I assume that's still true Sep 13 18:36:59 I have 2 patches to commit to webosinternals-modifications, but don't understand how to do it Sep 13 18:37:28 patches portal! Sep 13 18:38:11 creationix: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Optware_Cross_Compilation is a more specific link Sep 13 18:38:35 rwhitby gave me the access to the git but I missed a small how-to... Sep 13 18:38:41 everything I'm seeing on the wiki suggests optware is still pretty integrated Sep 13 18:38:56 what exactly are you having issues with MetaView? Sep 13 18:39:33 don't know how t ostart with :) Sep 13 18:39:42 I pulled the 1.4.5 branch Sep 13 18:39:56 I have 2 patch files, which look different to the one I have pulled Sep 13 18:39:56 do you know how to use git? Sep 13 18:40:10 well, I always need to read some how-tos Sep 13 18:40:16 == not really Sep 13 18:40:29 well, you pulled the branch, did you make any changes to the files? Sep 13 18:40:44 But I manged to work with it without breaking everything in the homebrew-app section Sep 13 18:40:50 not yet Sep 13 18:41:01 the patch files look different Sep 13 18:41:04 MetaView: basically, you pull, make changes to files, make a commit with those changes, then push your commit back to the central repo Sep 13 18:41:08 that's make me puzzled Sep 13 18:41:18 what do you mean different? Sep 13 18:41:25 moment pls Sep 13 18:42:16 has anyone figured out code-completion for vim yet? Sep 13 18:43:03 http://webos.pastebin.com/kpF5DCVk Sep 13 18:43:27 MetaView: that is called a diff file Sep 13 18:43:32 the upper part is the beginning of my patch file, the lower part is what I find there as UberCalendar patch Sep 13 18:43:37 yes Sep 13 18:43:58 but shall I create the patch file like the ones in the repository? Sep 13 18:44:06 no Sep 13 18:44:13 at least, I don't think so? Sep 13 18:44:16 ok, mine format is valid, yes? Sep 13 18:44:30 I'm not sure specifically how it works, but normally, you don't have to create the diff files themselves Sep 13 18:45:18 normally, you modify files that are in the git repo you pulled, and git keeps track of the diffs Sep 13 18:45:49 then you make a commit, (finalizing a diff, basically), and push that commit back to the central repo (essentially sending the diff to the original repo) Sep 13 18:46:33 summatusmentis: modifications is the repository for patches, that's why they are all diffs Sep 13 18:46:54 I'm not following Sep 13 18:47:00 I don't have a device Sep 13 18:47:07 so I'm just sort of going off of what you're saying Sep 13 18:47:10 I wonder why the file I retrieve isn't what I submitted using the portal some weeks ago Sep 13 18:47:41 MetaView: the header looks fine (as long as it is a unified diff and files at -p1) Sep 13 18:47:54 the portal regenerates it with git Sep 13 18:48:15 I'm gonna cede to pepole that know what they're talking about Sep 13 18:48:16 ok, that make sense Sep 13 18:48:16 to assure the proper headers so lsdiff will work for AUPT correctly Sep 13 18:48:49 do I need to do it too? Sep 13 18:49:39 what means "files at -p1" ? Sep 13 18:50:36 -p1 is a flag for the patch utility, which defines the depth from the current directory that patch should look for the files to apply the patch to Sep 13 18:50:53 -p1 means "one dir up" from the files being patched Sep 13 18:51:57 ah, ok, I remember Sep 13 18:52:57 normally you use "patch -p1 gotta run Sep 13 20:03:50 I'm unable to use gitorious.org Sep 13 20:04:01 use the portal Sep 13 20:04:05 I will Sep 13 20:04:07 * halfhalo shudders Sep 13 20:04:16 $ ssh gitorious.org Sep 13 20:04:16 Permission denied (publickey). Sep 13 20:04:43 * MetaView is too old to learn git Sep 13 20:04:45 yeah I don't think you can do that Sep 13 20:05:14 clone the modifications repo in gitorious but not ssh to gitorious.org Sep 13 20:05:24 but it happens even if I use the git: url to clone the repo Sep 13 20:05:38 without ssh I'm unable to commit? Sep 13 20:05:44 to pull Sep 13 20:06:00 I even made my own clone on gitorious Sep 13 20:06:12 and I'm unable to use the url to get a local copy Sep 13 20:06:18 git clone git://gitorious.org/webos-internals/modifications.git Sep 13 20:06:35 yes, this returns with Permission denied (publickey). too Sep 13 20:07:00 oh, Sep 13 20:07:03 this works Sep 13 20:07:14 I alwas tried somethign with ~metaview inside Sep 13 20:07:20 did you clone it on gitorious? Sep 13 20:07:29 yes Sep 13 20:07:36 and then something like Sep 13 20:07:53 git clone git://gitorious.org/~metaview/webos-internals/metaviews-modifications.git Sep 13 20:07:59 or whatever it says in the link Sep 13 20:08:17 did you put your ssh key in your gitorious account Sep 13 20:08:26 yes Sep 13 20:09:28 git clone http://git.gitorious.org/webos-internals/modifications.git Sep 13 20:10:24 git clone git://gitorious.org/~metaview/webos-internals/metaviews-modifications.git worked Sep 13 20:10:27 just be lucky you don't have to move a capistrano project from one git repo to another... THAT is a pain Sep 13 20:11:25 greetings internet Sep 13 20:11:32 what was checkout proper branch again? Sep 13 20:11:38 greetings Sep 13 20:11:41 the internet died of old age Sep 13 20:12:15 Just because I touch kernel stuff doesn't mean I'm a 50 year old beardo Sep 13 20:12:20 got it Sep 13 20:12:23 and by 'died of old age' we mean we took it out back and gave it both barrels Sep 13 20:12:28 Yup Sep 13 20:13:22 C'mon, everybody knows all kernel hackers are RMS clones :P Sep 13 20:13:24 these waffle fries are really good Sep 13 20:13:48 "The git:// protocol is read-only." Sep 13 20:14:03 * MetaView refuses Sep 13 20:18:09 MetaView: the portal should probably be the only one pushing to it these days anyway Sep 13 20:22:53 ok Sep 13 21:13:36 folks Sep 13 21:14:06 done Sep 13 21:50:58 is it possible to copy node to a 1.4.5 device (I tried copying /bin/node and /var/lib/libv8.so to the device but it wasn't able to run Sep 13 21:51:15 (from a 2.0 vm image) Sep 13 21:51:51 /bin/node: line 1: syntax error: "(" unexpected Sep 13 21:52:22 I'm assuming this means 1.4.5 and 2.0 aren't ABI compatable enough Sep 13 21:52:30 Are you under NDA? Sep 13 21:52:58 I'm in the 2.0 beta program, but other than that no Sep 13 21:54:08 You did not agree to an NDA to get into the early access program? Sep 13 21:54:25 (might want to verify your emails for that process) Sep 13 21:54:49 Sure thing. I did look for an NDA in all the agreements, maybe I missed something Sep 13 21:55:14 anyone here that might have early access is bound by an NDA Sep 13 21:56:02 * chrisA whistles nonchalantly Sep 13 21:56:18 egaudet: I think I found it under the "Palm Beta SDK– Additional Terms" Sep 13 21:56:25 * creationix reads again, slower this time Sep 13 21:56:41 though the fact that 2.0 has node is public knowledge Sep 13 21:56:49 that's why I wanted in the program in the first place Sep 13 21:57:23 * chrisA whistles menacingly Sep 13 21:57:33 * uNiXpSyChO is a fly on wall Sep 13 21:57:59 node.js, is a framework like prototype, i would just include it in my app Sep 13 21:58:20 how can you ... whistle menacingly? I mean.... Sep 13 22:00:58 seems i need to update my SDL lib Sep 13 22:03:03 chrisA: yep, that's the NDA, thanks for setting me straight Sep 13 22:04:06 dundundun.... Sep 13 22:09:56 * uNiXpSyChO flies away since there is no dead meat Sep 13 22:15:38 well look who it is Sep 13 22:15:45 who is it :o Sep 13 22:15:51 me Sep 13 22:29:55 lol Sep 14 00:01:38 * KGF2009 waves. Sep 14 00:02:00 Quick question, to anyone who can field it. Sep 14 00:02:55 I have a Palm Pre with firmware 1.4.1.1, not overclocked. Should I be able to play a 352p H.264 .mp4 file properly? Sep 14 00:10:56 ..Anyone? Sep 14 00:11:37 this is where a recap function would be handy. Sep 14 00:13:06 that I haven't tried Sep 14 00:13:43 I mean, I hear H.264 MP4 is supported by the palm, but it didn't say what quality. Sep 14 00:14:08 Should be fine Sep 14 00:14:33 Well, I'll find out soon enough, I suppose. Sep 14 00:14:49 Wild guess tells me the palm -doesn't- support SRT subtitles, though? Sep 14 00:15:05 Nope Sep 14 00:15:37 If I were to convert an MKV with multiple subtitle tracks embedded in to MP4, how could I make the subtitles permanent? Sep 14 00:16:23 depends on your tool Sep 14 00:16:47 Any suggestions? I'm taking a look at Videora. Sep 14 00:18:09 I've not had great luck with them, I tend to give up easily Sep 14 00:18:55 Hm. Sep 14 00:23:47 Does anybody know if a OS Doctor comes out before or after the carrier releases it? Sep 14 00:23:58 5after Sep 14 00:26:48 sometimes days after Sep 14 00:26:52 bleh Sep 14 00:26:54 thx Sep 14 00:27:57 creationix: FYI, Palm Emulator is i686 binaries, Pre/Pixi are armel binaries. Sep 14 00:29:10 good point Sep 14 00:33:11 Methinks it's not going to work, if a black screen without video is anything to go by. Sep 14 00:35:24 halfhalo, any tips? Sep 14 00:41:18 rwhitby: I tried doctoring my vzw Pre+ with the latest 1.4.1.1 doctor and it says "Charging Battery" with a progress bar. Shortly after it says my phone disconnects. I am left with a usb icon on the screen and I have to reboot it... Sep 14 00:42:07 give to me i will fix it ;d Sep 14 00:42:14 have you followed the recovery page on our wiki? Sep 14 00:42:17 u can have my sprint palm pre instead ;d Sep 14 00:43:37 rhwitby: Ill loog into it... Sep 14 00:43:41 look* Sep 14 00:44:23 or my at&t pre+ eteenally stuck with 1.4.2 Sep 14 00:44:23 *eternally Sep 14 00:45:14 rwhitby: are you talking about the page titled "How To Recover"? Sep 14 00:45:20 at this point I really don't care if Verizon updates to 1.4.5 Sep 14 00:45:33 Gu1l7y_work: front page -> Recovery Sep 14 00:45:42 KGF2009: bit late, but what platform are you on? Windows? Sep 14 00:45:43 I just want them to focus on getting 2.[whatever] out on time Sep 14 00:46:03 SineOt, XP, yes. Sep 14 00:46:12 Looking into switching back to Ubuntu soon. Sep 14 00:47:13 pal should just make a high powered and unlocked phone like google did with the nexus one Sep 14 00:47:38 I know a lot of node/js developers who would love that phone Sep 14 00:48:09 what they should do is make something that a lot of everyday people/with lots of disposable income would love ;P Sep 14 00:48:31 I'm pretty sure apple already has that market ;) Sep 14 00:49:00 but palm has the potential to compete since they control the hardware and the software Sep 14 00:49:00 it's the marketing department that makes a phone take that market Sep 14 00:49:07 and yet Android is finding it pretty easy to eat up a large part of it ;p Sep 14 00:49:13 despite all the oddities and short comings Sep 14 00:49:27 being on dozens of devices helps Sep 14 00:49:49 one good device is better Sep 14 00:50:06 and shipping with non-crippled versions of the os Sep 14 00:50:50 * creationix glares at ATT for the pre-plus os version Sep 14 00:51:01 KGF2009: http://handbrake.fr/ will make your life super easy Sep 14 00:51:19 it should let you embed the subtitles from your MKV and convert to a Pre/Pixi friendly H264 in one shot Sep 14 00:51:25 I'm hoping for a palm thing that's not a phone Sep 14 00:51:52 (To embed them, under Subtitles find the subtitle track you want and check "burned in") Sep 14 00:51:57 I know too many people that replaced old palm pilots with iPod Touches Sep 14 00:51:58 Non-phone things have already been confirmed by HP Sep 14 00:52:16 can't wait for my webos microwave Sep 14 00:52:20 chrisA, in a small pilot-like form factor? Sep 14 00:52:45 that can let you print recipes to your webOS printer so you can view it on your webOS in car GPS? Sep 14 00:53:18 and my webos unicorn .. i'll go with the upgrade and get the one that farts rainbows too .. wouldn't want to limit myself off the bat Sep 14 00:53:20 a webOS in-car media/GPS system would be AWESOME Sep 14 00:53:57 a webos toilet... to notify you when the dump is full... Sep 14 00:54:03 don't forget the webOS graphing calculator Sep 14 00:54:26 webOS logic analyser Sep 14 00:54:29 Loudergood, we'd need a good graphing calculator for webOS first Sep 14 00:54:40 webos girlfriend? Sep 14 00:54:59 bpadalino: Preware on the 16600A Sep 14 00:55:04 Sorry; had to shutdown. Sep 14 00:55:14 hahaha Sep 14 00:55:16 Note to self: Do -not- give video converters "high" CPU access. Sep 14 00:55:28 lol Sep 14 00:55:39 lol Sep 14 00:55:43 Now, um, who was attempting to help me? Sep 14 00:55:43 yeah, that might be a bad idea Sep 14 00:55:43 might take a while to refresh the feeds running on that thing :P Sep 14 00:55:48 I was Sep 14 00:55:48 SineOt! Right. Sep 14 00:55:58 bpadalino: at least it has ethernet ... Sep 14 00:56:11 Anyway, last thing I sent was that I have Windows XP. Sep 14 00:56:16 how hard would it be to port webos to a netbook Sep 14 00:56:20 that sounds like fun Sep 14 00:56:26 yea fun Sep 14 00:56:27 especially if there was one with a touch screen Sep 14 00:56:35 I thought someone already for the emulator stuff running on one? Sep 14 00:56:41 KGF2009: http://handbrake.fr/ will make your life super easy Sep 14 00:56:42 [5:47pm] SineOt: it should let you embed the subtitles from your MKV and convert to a Pre/Pixi friendly H264 in one shot Sep 14 00:56:48 it's just linux after all right? Sep 14 00:56:49 *got Sep 14 00:56:51 (To embed them, under Subtitles find the subtitle track you want and check "burned in") Sep 14 00:57:10 What exactly -is- 'Palm Friendly'? Sep 14 00:57:16 and yeah I think someone got the emulator booting on a netbook but I don't think it ran very well Sep 14 00:57:31 creationix: webos front end is a pretty complicated and ridiculous program called luna .. that would be the rough part Sep 14 00:57:39 the under-bits are just your normal linux system Sep 14 00:57:44 if is has built in settings for iPod or iPhone those would probably be good Sep 14 00:57:52 640x480 baseline profile H264, AAC for audio Sep 14 00:57:53 Lulz at normal Linux Sep 14 00:58:02 bit rate under like 3mbps I think or something Sep 14 00:58:02 but how is luna tied to the hardware Sep 14 00:58:14 creationix: daemons which talk over dbus Sep 14 00:58:23 i guess if you could emulate those daemons .. Sep 14 00:58:35 you mean like... Palm did with the emulator? :p Sep 14 00:58:42 Hah Sep 14 00:58:59 I mean the emulator is just i686 linux. netbook hardware isn't very different Sep 14 00:59:23 I'm sure there are some gotchas in there, but it doesn't sound impossible Sep 14 00:59:36 sure, you could get it to run your programs .. but to be fully functional it may take a bit more work Sep 14 01:00:20 heh, the emulator doesn't "fully work" Sep 14 01:00:56 sounds like we're starting a leg down already Sep 14 01:01:35 anyway, just wondering, I don't have time to hack it Sep 14 01:01:54 I'll be happy to see what official hardware/software palm released next Sep 14 01:02:03 s/released/releases/ Sep 14 01:02:03 creationix meant: I'll be happy to see what official hardware/software palm releases next Sep 14 01:02:20 cool bot! Sep 14 01:02:22 I'm sure it'll be pretty nice, since the one HP guy was saying it would be pretty fancy :p Sep 14 01:02:29 Oh, nice. Sep 14 01:02:32 Hell of a bot. Sep 14 01:02:38 ~botsnack Sep 14 01:02:38 halfhalo: :) Sep 14 01:02:49 hopefully a treo 9000 Sep 14 01:02:52 Foo Sep 14 01:02:55 s/Foo/bar Sep 14 01:02:55 KGF2009: if you need any help with handbrake, just let me know Sep 14 01:02:57 or a preo Sep 14 01:03:04 * KGF2009 forgot a slash. Sep 14 01:03:09 Oh well. Sep 14 01:03:20 SineOt, will do. Sep 14 01:03:22 they'll announce that webOS 2.0 is actually just Palm OS 7 :Q Sep 14 01:03:34 the virtual keyboard is just a finger version of Graffiti Sep 14 01:03:44 (although I have a feeling a lot of people would think that last one was awesome) Sep 14 01:05:03 SineOt, I have one already. You may have answered it the first time I asked, but I didn't see. What exactly is "Palm Friendly"? Sep 14 01:05:13 i keep bashing my treo 650 and pre plus together hoping they will have children Sep 14 01:05:58 If you want to be lazy, just use like the iPhone preset Sep 14 01:06:19 but I use 640x480 H264 with AAC audio Sep 14 01:06:28 KGF2009: Wonder if bot is smart enough to let you "s!s/Foo/bar!s/Foo/bar/" and then recursively process it... :-) Sep 14 01:06:52 and don't touch the Advanced settings, or you kick the H264 out of Baseline Profile@L3, which the phone won't like very much Sep 14 01:07:05 of course, I meant to include a "!" on the end of that, and am not even going to try to escape and feed that to the bot... Sep 14 01:07:40 I just put it in MP4 format, and H.264. Haven't edited anything else as of yet. Sep 14 01:08:13 624x352 is the current ratio. Sep 14 01:08:20 Of the original video. Sep 14 01:08:38 oh guys... has it occurred to anyone that ffmpeg from optware can be used to convert videos into suitable format for webos video player... and that this can be done entirely on the phone Sep 14 01:08:59 hmm, transcoding ON the phone Sep 14 01:09:07 indeed Sep 14 01:09:08 great way to keep your pocket warm Sep 14 01:09:11 would probably be a sure fire way to kill your battery Sep 14 01:09:19 * KGF2009 had the same thoughts. Sep 14 01:09:36 this is why we have chargers Sep 14 01:09:58 so let's see... tethered to the wall... hm Sep 14 01:10:01 If you're going to keep it on a wall charger, why not just do it on the computer anyway? Sep 14 01:10:10 just like a computer that could probably encode it in an 1/8th the time c_c Sep 14 01:10:29 because i dont keep my laptop in my pocket Sep 14 01:10:29 krushia|treo: lots of useful things in optware that aren't being used to fullest advantage Sep 14 01:11:01 but you keep enough video in a format your phone can't play in there? :p Sep 14 01:11:16 So let's see...MP4, H.264, 624x352, AAC, same-as-source FPS...Anything missing? Sep 14 01:11:21 KGF2009: that's probably fine then, I'd just leave it at 624x352 Sep 14 01:11:28 Subtitles? Sep 14 01:11:33 Not for this video. Sep 14 01:11:38 Oh~ Sep 14 01:11:42 Yeah, that should work fine Sep 14 01:11:51 My anime is what I intend to burn subtitles on. Sep 14 01:12:28 Also, if I remember correctly, Handbrake is also used to rip DVDs? Sep 14 01:12:38 * KGF2009 may be interested in that. O-o Sep 14 01:16:34 it can be, yeah Sep 14 01:16:40 but you need to decode them yourself Sep 14 01:16:48 I think if you have VLC installed it'll handle it automatically Sep 14 01:18:19 VLC is the only thing I'll use. Sep 14 01:18:53 I only wish that QuickTime X and Perian existed on Windows. ;p Sep 14 01:21:08 * rwhitby wasn't aware all those things ran on #webos ... Sep 14 01:21:27 * KGF2009 wonders why rwhitby added a #. Sep 14 01:29:40 kicks? Sep 14 01:48:25 twitter **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 14 02:59:57 2010