**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 22 02:59:57 2010 Sep 22 03:09:04 sadface Sep 22 03:09:11 ;_; <- me without a widk Sep 22 03:09:20 :*( Sep 22 03:09:38 still no luck? :< Sep 22 03:09:58 nay Sep 22 03:10:00 tried everything Sep 22 03:10:06 nuked my os and reinstalled from scratch Sep 22 03:10:14 no luck Sep 22 03:10:48 no windows licenses at all you have access to? Sep 22 03:11:01 although you are on an EEE netbook aren't you, a VM would be butttastic Sep 22 03:11:39 no Sep 22 03:11:41 i don't want windows Sep 22 03:11:43 i don't want it Sep 22 03:12:09 I was going to say just use a VM with MicroXP for the final building Sep 22 03:12:18 you'd at least have a working SDK/PDK :p Sep 22 03:12:24 nooooooo Sep 22 03:12:27 that seems hackish Sep 22 03:12:38 the widk is THERE it just needs some tender hands Sep 22 03:12:41 and some soft music Sep 22 03:13:00 but i'm not the right guy for the widk Sep 22 03:13:13 it needs old loving developer hands Sep 22 03:13:27 ones that nursed the widk from glimmer to reality Sep 22 03:14:29 actually, it just needs cutting down to a minimal core for "make stage" Sep 22 03:15:29 yeah but i don't know how to do it :< Sep 22 03:17:32 arg... forgot to make source field.... Sep 22 03:18:21 rwhitby, is there anything i can do to hellp Sep 22 03:18:56 you know what Sep 22 03:19:06 i'm going to see if i can bootstrap my mostly compiled build Sep 22 03:19:08 see what happens Sep 22 03:20:34 here goooes nothin' Sep 22 03:22:04 attempting to compile doom Sep 22 03:22:26 if doom compiles i will officially not care about the make stage finishing Sep 22 03:22:35 because that'll mean i have enough to compile my own crap Sep 22 03:22:54 I should see if Doom will compile and run on the Pixi now Sep 22 03:23:15 ryan[WIN]: that's the core that I'm talking about Sep 22 03:24:12 ok doom compiled Sep 22 03:24:15 let's see if it runs Sep 22 03:26:48 man if this works Sep 22 03:26:50 <3 Sep 22 03:37:47 * rwhitby bbl (lunch) Sep 22 03:49:38 ok Sep 22 03:49:45 rwhitby, an sdl thing i wrote a whie back compiled Sep 22 03:49:51 i manually compiled sdl_mixer Sep 22 03:52:31 FUCK YEAH Sep 22 03:52:32 IT WORKS Sep 22 03:54:05 and there was much rejoicing Sep 22 04:00:57 holy shit Sep 22 04:01:09 everything works except SDL_mixer is missing like all support for anything Sep 22 04:01:24 ammerrrica Sep 22 04:01:25 fuck yeah Sep 22 04:01:33 ok i'm uploading a video of my app runnin on a pre Sep 22 04:08:48 ryan[WIN]: awesome!!!! :D Sep 22 04:08:50 lol america Sep 22 04:08:59 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECDOQnqgctk Sep 22 04:11:18 I... what? Sep 22 04:11:33 * halfhalo is failing at json... Sep 22 04:13:00 ryan[WIN]: :D Sep 22 04:13:04 pew pew pew pew Sep 22 04:13:13 the controls need to be remapped Sep 22 04:13:25 sure, but easy peasy :D Sep 22 04:13:27 and i need to figure out how to build SDL_mixer with the correct libs so it has mod support Sep 22 04:13:36 MikMod i believe Sep 22 04:13:43 because it has some music and such Sep 22 04:14:28 whats wrong with this: {"SourceField":{"Title":"Wircery","Source":"nein","LastUpdated":"12344567898","Feed":"TestFeed"}} Sep 22 04:15:23 it's valid json Sep 22 04:16:06 THATS what I thought! But its not being accepted! Sep 22 04:16:13 what's not accepting it? Sep 22 04:16:31 node Sep 22 04:16:34 oo Sep 22 04:16:41 i knwo all about node Sep 22 04:16:53 how are you processing the json Sep 22 04:17:09 JSON.parse() or whatever? Sep 22 04:17:15 JSON.parse().... like I do with ALL json in node Sep 22 04:17:32 pastebin yoru code? Sep 22 04:19:38 heh... I broke the code loader.... Sep 22 04:19:40 fixed it Sep 22 04:20:12 oh i see you're also in #node.js Sep 22 04:20:16 man i remember when it was like 35 people Sep 22 04:24:51 Quiet. Sep 22 04:24:57 LOUD Sep 22 04:28:27 I have a patch gone wonky. nothings wrong w/ my phone that I see, should I care? Sep 22 04:31:14 emer file veri sees it. I doctored my phone, used preware saved package, and emer file veri see's the same error. I send it to pastebin lst week. same error.. just bored trying to nail it down. Sep 22 04:32:26 I'll try the forums I guess... g'nite folks. Sep 22 05:06:19 I uploaded the source code I have now to here: http://silentbluesystems.com/feeder.zip Its sorta non working right now. cryptk, take a look if you want. Sep 22 05:49:28 the wiki might be offline for a teensy while... Sep 22 07:43:24 what's up Sep 22 08:14:43 hmm, that's weird -- mediasync registers a device in the /dev filesystem whereas usbdrive mode doesn't.. Sep 22 11:35:09 prefox lets you upload files Sep 22 12:14:48 http://www.amazon.com/Three-Screen-Guards-Protectors-Palm/dp/B0036T0PM0/ref=pd_cp_cps_1 wtf? Sep 22 12:14:51 1 cent? Sep 22 13:30:53 I can't install a theme. :( I just recently updated my webos to 1.4.5 Sep 22 13:31:09 it is a .ipk file Sep 22 13:31:13 and I just updated preware too Sep 22 15:11:09 wiki down = gooooood Sep 22 15:52:37 need a hand warmer app Sep 22 16:02:04 Theres a fatal flaw in my stock buying plan..... Sep 22 17:17:48 well shucks.... Sep 22 17:57:49 evening Sep 22 17:58:14 mornin Sep 22 18:05:39 anyone play sets? Sep 22 18:05:57 no, but I downloaded ze codes Sep 22 18:06:18 curious if it sometimes shows you a screen with no set Sep 22 18:06:37 and then deleted it because I couldn't be arsed to make a file to use with feed thingier as a test project Sep 22 18:06:51 I've been staring at the screen for 30 minutes and still don't see it Sep 22 18:06:58 as a heads up, there is a new URL active now http://donate.webos-internals.org Sep 22 18:07:09 just a redirect to a wiki page, but something nice and easy to remember Sep 22 18:07:14 lies cryptk, lies Sep 22 18:07:39 not lies, I set it up myself Sep 22 18:07:58 make redmine.webos-internals.org Sep 22 18:08:24 where should it point, and should it be access controlled Sep 22 18:08:32 and if so, how should the access control be done? Sep 22 18:08:42 there are details that must be known for that kind of thing, lol Sep 22 18:08:46 point it to the wiki for now, and no access control Sep 22 18:10:12 it just makes it easier when actuall setting it up to have the final domain for it in place instead of having to change it from the thin server one Sep 22 18:10:35 ok, I will go ahead and set up the URL and just have it point to the wiki Sep 22 18:54:36 anyone using Govnah 0.6.9? Sep 22 18:57:24 well, i would have said yes but he left.... Sep 22 18:57:49 not quite a record though...I think the record stands @ 11seconds. Sep 22 18:57:49 same here Sep 22 18:57:53 I was just about to say yes Sep 22 18:57:58 me too Sep 22 18:58:29 yeah, he made it 2 minutes, way off the record Sep 22 19:12:27 haha Sep 22 19:12:42 cryptk: ka6sox: Patience? who needs patiences! Sep 22 19:12:59 haha Sep 22 19:13:06 Marajin, ya...seems to be in short supply Sep 22 19:14:33 well they did call themselves /angry/cow Sep 22 19:14:42 bovine ragequit! Sep 22 20:10:10 i have an old version of multi-mod patch now i try to update it but i have this error http://pastebin.com/GWHVczGh Sep 22 20:10:28 how i can fix this ????? Sep 22 20:11:01 come una bebbia ;) Sep 22 20:11:05 nebbia Sep 22 20:11:32 ? Sep 22 20:11:36 nebbia ? Sep 22 20:11:59 i guess google translate sucks Sep 22 20:12:03 :D Sep 22 20:13:10 What are you trying to say? Sep 22 20:14:53 Darkmagister: looks like you have the classic symptom of multiple patches touching the same spots in the same file Sep 22 20:15:06 :( Sep 22 20:15:07 when that happens the patches sometimes need to be applied/removed in a particular order Sep 22 20:15:15 ouch Sep 22 20:15:27 so try removing other browser patches first Sep 22 20:15:54 i'm not shure but i not have any other browser patch Sep 22 20:15:58 let me see Sep 22 20:17:08 cryptk, i ended up making the half-built staging work Sep 22 20:20:54 ouch i have the no refresh after idle :D Sep 22 20:21:13 now i try to remove it and update the multi mod patch Sep 22 20:30:08 no :( maybe i have some other patch :( Sep 22 20:31:31 i have no other patch for browser Sep 22 20:32:00 http://pastebin.com/YYkEEA3z Sep 22 20:35:48 i have the patch 1.4.1-14 now i have to to installa the version for the 1.4.5 Sep 22 20:38:45 cryptk: we are go for test run! Sep 22 20:48:15 I could copy the original file on my pre Sep 22 20:51:15 ? Sep 22 21:00:38 Darkmagister: you have 1.4.1-14 installed? Sep 22 21:00:45 halfhalo: I am back Sep 22 21:01:01 how did you install it? it should be a -0 package after the 1.4.5 OTA Sep 22 21:05:25 Well folks, you'll have to bug chuq more now. I'm out Sep 22 21:05:53 lies Sep 22 21:08:28 well, THAT breaks preware... Sep 22 21:08:33 cryptk: after the ota update the multimod not have an update Sep 22 21:09:19 and when a version be available i have this problem :( Sep 22 21:10:01 hrm... Sep 22 21:10:09 and you are trying to just remove it first right? Sep 22 21:10:28 there has to be some other patch that is touching files that it is in Sep 22 21:10:58 if i remove i have the same error Sep 22 21:11:33 the file that it is having a problem with is /usr/palm/frameworks/mojo/builtins/palmInitFramework338.js Sep 22 21:11:34 i have ad blocker, or unthrottle download manager ... Sep 22 21:11:43 which could be touched by a patch that isn't a browser patch Sep 22 21:11:58 how many patches do you have installed total? Sep 22 21:11:59 mm how i can find this patch ? Sep 22 21:12:05 13 Sep 22 21:14:02 in your USB partition can you pastebin the contents of the .webosinternals.patches.packages file Sep 22 21:14:33 ... in /media/internal i have to find this .webosinternals.patches.packages ?? Sep 22 21:14:52 yes, it is a text file Sep 22 21:15:00 can you pastebin it's contents Sep 22 21:15:07 it is a list of all installed patches Sep 22 21:15:15 k Sep 22 21:15:19 let me see Sep 22 21:18:19 http://pastebin.com/ViLbMLf5 Sep 22 21:18:30 some of this patch i can see on preware Sep 22 21:19:30 org.webosinternals.patches.browser-allow-browser-in-low-mem aupt-3 Sep 22 21:19:34 you have that one installed? Sep 22 21:19:48 on preware i cant see it Sep 22 21:20:27 org.webosinternals.patches.browser-gestureclick-context-menu aupt-3 Sep 22 21:20:34 find them in preware and install them and then remove them Sep 22 21:20:41 k Sep 22 21:21:05 hang on Sep 22 21:21:07 easier way Sep 22 21:21:16 in preware, you know how to update your saved packages list? Sep 22 21:21:25 ... mmm no :D Sep 22 21:22:00 in preware open the app menu Sep 22 21:22:04 tap on saved packages list Sep 22 21:22:10 once it comes up, tap on update Sep 22 21:22:13 mm ok Sep 22 21:22:54 let me know once that is done Sep 22 21:22:58 k Sep 22 21:23:24 done? Sep 22 21:24:23 mmm preware is loading :D Sep 22 21:24:28 ok Sep 22 21:25:12 anyone got WIDK to build again? Sep 22 21:25:21 what we are going to do is update your saved packages list, then run EPR, then restore them from the saved packages list Sep 22 21:25:38 that should hopefully fix any problems you are having Sep 22 21:25:40 I wish I'd thought of that when the OTA wiped my patches Sep 22 21:25:55 I forgot to save my package list before running EPR Sep 22 21:26:00 ok i have update it ... Sep 22 21:26:07 Amaranth: you don't need to EPR before OTA's Sep 22 21:26:11 now i run erp Sep 22 21:26:11 ok Sep 22 21:26:17 yes, run EPR Sep 22 21:26:23 cryptk: I had 1.4.5 on Verizon, OTA wiped out my patches Sep 22 21:26:31 So I needed to reinstall them so the patches would apply Sep 22 21:26:36 then you run preware and update them Sep 22 21:26:43 that is all part of AUPT Sep 22 21:28:02 There were no updates available Sep 22 21:28:11 I was already running 1.4.5, I'm in the developer program Sep 22 21:28:16 emergency reconstruction utility ? Sep 22 21:29:35 no Sep 22 21:29:37 sorry Sep 22 21:29:38 :D Sep 22 21:29:42 so you had doctored to 1.4.5 then Sep 22 21:29:44 no Sep 22 21:29:49 Emergency Patch removal Sep 22 21:30:22 Right, I doctored to 1.4.5 but Verizon pushed out the OTA and apparently it was 1.4.5.1 or something because it made me do it Sep 22 21:30:44 patch recovery Sep 22 21:30:54 Darkmagister: yes Sep 22 21:30:57 :) Sep 22 21:31:42 let me know once that finishes Sep 22 21:31:49 k Sep 22 21:31:53 once it is done I think it asks you to restart luna, but you can skip that for now Sep 22 21:32:07 ok and re oinstal all the patch ? Sep 22 21:32:41 just bring up the saved packages list and tap on install all Sep 22 21:32:47 k Sep 22 21:32:48 do NOT click the update button Sep 22 21:32:51 the install one Sep 22 21:32:54 okok Sep 22 21:33:12 i no restart luna an install the saved package Sep 22 21:33:28 yes Sep 22 21:33:44 click on Later for the luna restart, bring up the saved packages list, click on install all Sep 22 21:33:50 k Sep 22 21:33:55 then once that is done restart luna Sep 22 21:40:26 how do I load preware on my phone Sep 22 21:44:51 is tooooo long :D Sep 22 21:45:27 wow... todd_ is close to the record Sep 22 21:45:35 Darkmagister: what is tooooo long? Sep 22 21:45:46 the EPR Sep 22 21:46:01 sometimes it takes a while Sep 22 21:46:09 yessss Sep 22 21:52:12 uff Sep 22 21:55:13 random text representations of sound do not help me to help you Sep 22 21:55:22 if you are running into a problem, describe it to me Sep 22 21:55:24 suuuure Sep 22 21:56:12 :D me no i only wait the finish of epr Sep 22 21:56:19 ahh Sep 22 21:57:32 it's too slow :D Sep 22 22:06:06 epr remove only the patch ?? Sep 22 22:08:16 yes, it should only remove patches Sep 22 22:09:15 mm and why it take a lot ? Sep 22 22:09:31 it shouldn't take this long Sep 22 22:09:55 mm removing original file... Sep 22 22:12:39 it's 20 minut that try or removing original file :D Sep 22 22:19:04 kill it and try again Sep 22 22:23:10 mmm ok i kill preware Sep 22 22:23:21 and try again it no create any problem ? Sep 22 22:45:15 ok, a very basic version of the private feed maker is up and running... and when I mean basic, I mean REALLY basic Sep 22 22:46:58 but it DOES have authentication, it DOES build on its own, it DOES create a validish packages file, and it DOES work with preware Sep 22 22:47:46 validish? Sep 22 22:48:12 yeah, I just sorta mashed the kb for the md5sum field Sep 22 22:48:17 besides that, it works Sep 22 22:50:10 and it uses json for its build directions and to create the Packages file, which makes it easy to edit Sep 22 22:50:32 and I'm working on git integration, so that on commit it will autopull and build Sep 22 22:51:39 bbl driving home time Sep 22 22:58:17 ook it's work :D quite long but now work :D Sep 22 23:00:27 Yay, two autobuild errors fixed... many more to go. At least all the rest are the same root cause. Sep 22 23:03:17 I blame oil Sep 22 23:06:36 that's assumed Sep 23 00:41:14 Does anyone here use Govnah with a 800/250 screenstate? Sep 23 00:53:08 hello Sep 23 00:53:56 does putting preware onmy phone void the warranty? Sep 23 00:54:07 nope Sep 23 00:54:09 only if you overclock Sep 23 00:54:23 what is overclocking Sep 23 00:54:32 * halfhalo voided his warranty a loooooong time ago Sep 23 00:54:37 Running your phone at twice the normal speed. Sep 23 00:54:49 or more Sep 23 00:55:43 hmmm ha i dont think i will do that if it voids my warrabty if i have phone insurance and i overclock am i fine? Sep 23 00:56:45 that would be fraud, right? (if you claimed insurance when you chose to overclock it) Sep 23 00:59:34 weewt, its alive Sep 23 01:02:11 sooo... fun fact. any misformatted Source section json will make preware crash and burn Sep 23 01:03:26 halfhalo: are you sure about that? it's in a try/catch. worst that should happen is the package is omitted (cause an author who can't get the Source right doesn't deserve to be in Preware) and Preware continues to the next package. Sep 23 01:04:30 nope, it bombs out with an Object.forEach error (as specific as I can get off the top of my head) Sep 23 01:07:24 lets see if the package file left up on my vps has the issue... Sep 23 01:07:33 nope... dang Sep 23 01:11:35 although I do like the fact that the md5sum isn't checked, since that makes my life a whole lot easier Sep 23 01:11:47 well, at least for now :p Sep 23 01:13:10 halfhalo: please provide a test case. we've tested the current try/catch with malformed source lines. Sep 23 01:14:19 I think I may have a version of a Packages file that breaks it on my work computer. when I go in tomorrow I'll try and find it Sep 23 01:14:48 ok Sep 23 01:30:17 sooo. how bout those magic mouse's that refuse to connect to a computer after being disconnected leaving me mouseless.... Sep 23 01:37:49 ... Sep 23 01:40:59 yes, those three dots are everywhere Sep 23 01:41:55 Well, yes. At the end of every sentance in fact. Sep 23 01:42:05 dundunDUN.... Sep 23 01:44:42 So, is this the stupidest headline you've seen all year? http://bit.ly/aCIe8K Sep 23 01:44:45 the dots are following me!! Sep 23 01:45:03 Dots are tasty, gummy, and you should turn on them. Sep 23 01:45:03 yu[ Sep 23 01:45:04 p Sep 23 01:45:55 By the way dtzWill, if you need that skin for the main menu, I should be free to talk about it next week. Sep 23 01:49:53 Zen00: okay. i'm sorry i haven't gotten back to you, i've been completely swamped at work and maintaining/supporting vba/supernes :) Sep 23 01:50:21 Yeah, but soon you'll be 50K richer for it. :O Sep 23 01:50:23 i do appreciate your initiative and am serious about hoping to get some good graphical updates to vba (and possibly supernes too) Sep 23 01:50:43 Zen00: we'll see. don't jinx it :D Sep 23 01:50:59 Knock on synthetic wood! Sep 23 01:52:07 * dtzWill leaves work to go home Sep 23 01:54:30 Have a safe trip! Sep 23 01:54:47 * Zen00 quits to actually work on studying for his physics test. Sep 23 02:49:50 yo whats good. Sep 23 02:50:06 was at ESC today Sep 23 02:50:17 swore this HP printer was webos. Sep 23 02:53:05 question...... Sep 23 02:53:33 I just got a new Palm Pre (internal HP webos contest) and I want to use the new phone in replacement of my old Palm Pre Sep 23 02:53:49 if I activate the new phone, is the old one unusable? Sep 23 02:54:08 even as a wifi linux box? Sep 23 02:57:32 crickets... Sep 23 02:57:38 you need a separate profile Sep 23 02:59:13 I don't care about cell for my old phone Sep 23 02:59:27 just want it to be a working wifi/bt linux machine **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Sep 23 02:59:58 2010