**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 26 02:59:57 2010 Sep 26 05:52:11 i think i had read somewhere that there was a patch that would let the gps chip send it's information over bluetooth (making it a gps receiver for full size map software)? Sep 26 06:50:39 can anyone confirm that the x windows packages still work in 1.4.5? Sep 26 06:50:57 i cannot confirm nor deny that, sorry Sep 26 06:54:18 bummer. used to work. got a referb. uped to 1.4.5. reloaded everything and they don't launch anymore for me. haven't looked into it much yet. just reinstalled em and no dice.. Sep 26 06:55:08 that sucks Sep 26 06:55:19 i just got mine a few days ago Sep 26 06:55:25 still learning a lot of the stuff Sep 26 06:56:06 ya... been a while since I used them but I was able to run remote X apps in the past. Sep 26 06:56:58 thanks anyway. I'll ask again late perhaps. Sep 26 06:57:16 maybe you know, if i pay for an app and then have to replace my phone, do i have to pay to redownload? Sep 26 06:58:13 nope. should say free download. your palm profile keeps track of purchases. Sep 26 06:58:50 good, thanks ... there's a keyboard issue with my phone, so i may have to replace it Sep 26 07:08:09 D0li0: if you want the X windows packages to work on 1.4.5, you have to echo "pardon" > /etc/nojail Sep 26 07:18:05 rwhitby: oh they work without the jail? i mean they *should* but never tested, was focused on rebuilding to work with jail, etc Sep 26 07:18:10 good to know :D Sep 26 07:18:38 dtzWill: I think they do Sep 26 07:19:38 rwhitby: like i said i never tried. seems that they stand a good chance? :) Sep 26 07:26:20 rwhitby, D0li0: confirmed working with nojail Sep 26 07:26:23 (fwiw) Sep 26 07:28:18 will try that.. thanks Sep 26 07:28:51 D0li0: welcome. bug us if you have any problems Sep 26 07:28:55 * rwhitby bbl Sep 26 07:55:56 X would be nifty... Sep 26 07:56:43 RagingMind: what do you mean? :) Sep 26 07:57:30 I have this little image in my head of an icon that'll launch X and start something like matchbox Sep 26 07:57:45 and from there I could run an x version of firefox Sep 26 07:57:54 it'd be like having two phones at once Sep 26 07:58:09 though I'm really not sure how useful that'd be... but it'd be nifty Sep 26 07:58:18 RagingMind: you can already do that? and have been able to for months? Sep 26 07:59:29 RagingMind: although x needs some patching up for 1.4.5 that i haven't gotten around to yet.... but the 'echo pardon > /etc/nojail' makes it work fine. Sep 26 07:59:51 RagingMind: matchbox + firefox you can grab from some debian chroot goodness Sep 26 07:59:58 with firefox? and easy binary installation? Sep 26 08:00:16 I haven't gotten to trying to actually compile anything for my pre yet Sep 26 08:00:20 RagingMind: with firefox, no it's not wrapped up in a neat package... god swamped with other ideas :) Sep 26 08:00:32 RagingMind: you don't have to compile a thing :). cross-compiling firefox is a PITA anyway Sep 26 08:00:43 least it was for me last time i tried it, shrug Sep 26 08:00:57 running firefox remotely is also a pita Sep 26 08:01:23 firefox is a bit clunky on the device no matter how you slice it :( Sep 26 08:01:41 although i haven't tried that prefox deal, but that's based on fennec and whatnot, rather more mobile friendly :) Sep 26 08:02:33 I just don't like the idea of webkit being the only option on most mobile platforms Sep 26 08:02:55 so I'm really excited to see gecko working on mobile stuff Sep 26 16:50:17 what has this world come to.... 85 bucks for a 4GB ddr3 notebook stick. Last I checked it was almost double that! Sep 26 16:52:34 ya i got a ddr2 1gb stick for 9.99 after $20 rebate Sep 26 17:29:45 so does the echo "pardon" to /etc/nojail 'pardon' all jailed apps? worked for X! will my angry birds be upset out of their jail? ps. how do I type > from wIRC on my pre? Sep 26 17:30:51 pardon should allow everything to run without the jail .. not sure what the ramifications of that will be for all of your apps.. Sep 26 17:33:33 hummm.. btw 'pardon' 'nojail' cute. didn't get it last night in my sleep... Sep 26 17:34:03 they seem to have a sense of humor, those palm guys Sep 26 17:37:56 hello Sep 26 17:37:56 hello! Sep 26 17:38:44 i need help, virtual keyboard dont work on my pre plus azerty Sep 26 17:48:42 nobody to help me? Sep 26 18:03:45 quit Sep 26 18:03:48 exit Sep 26 18:50:55 ok, my car is either reading 93F or 99F, I can't tell which since the display overheated itself....Today should be fun! Sep 26 19:29:27 test Sep 26 19:49:09 any novel ideas on what to do with a retired Pre? Sep 26 19:50:08 dev device Sep 26 19:50:16 or... we always accept donations Sep 26 19:50:25 if you have no need for it that is Sep 26 19:53:20 ya. for now it just sits on my desk and I ssh into it for kicks. need to metadr it eventually. Sep 26 20:02:55 D0li0, we gratefully accept donations :D Sep 26 20:03:43 I know. and I'm considering it.. perhaps after I retire my 2nd pre... Sep 26 20:04:16 halfhalo, imaging what it would be out in Palm Springs today! Sep 26 20:04:38 One bajillion degrees Sep 26 20:04:57 I'm debating whether to go out for taco bell or stay inside in the ac Sep 26 20:05:22 On the one hand, taco bell has soda, which I am out of, but on the other hand, I think my car melted Sep 26 20:05:43 109.2deg Sep 26 20:06:51 110 for the next 2 days.... Sep 26 20:07:06 then it'll cool down....only 106 Sep 26 20:10:09 I'm in San Bernardino only 101 here ha!... oh wait that still sucks. Sep 26 20:12:27 Seattle is in the 60s I think.. love the 'mild' climate Sep 26 20:13:00 D0li0, I read that as rainy, wet and cold. Sep 26 20:13:52 It was beautiful here last week. Need more of that again. Sep 26 20:14:26 I wouldn't call it 'rain' exactly. wet yes. but never really cold nor hot... Sep 26 20:14:34 basotl, Indian Summer has arrived in SOCAL. Sep 26 20:14:47 bbiaf taco bell time Sep 26 20:14:55 * halfhalo is hoping to traffic on balboa Sep 26 20:15:53 * ka6sox hopes its going to be simpler to head out @ 5pm to make trip up thru Magic Mountain over Pearblossom Hwy and out to Indio than now. Sep 26 20:28:35 car is reading 108 Sep 26 20:29:11 I think... Sep 26 20:31:02 but, on the bright side there was no traffic and now I'm flying up louise Sep 26 20:31:04 your car? inside or outside? Sep 26 20:31:22 out Sep 26 20:32:22 that's fairly warm. Sep 26 20:32:37 20 bucks says this civic bttoms out at devinsire and louise as he troes to pass me Sep 26 20:32:46 yup.... he did Sep 26 20:32:51 badly Sep 26 20:33:36 oh how I love suvs Sep 26 20:35:53 * halfhalo_pre sends ice cold cokes to ka6sox and everyon else in socal Sep 26 21:31:14 D0li0: you're in seattle too? Sep 26 21:38:43 * scoutcamper is in redding, above 100 for weeks at a time, record of 121 last year Sep 26 21:57:06 Good afternoon folk Sep 26 21:57:30 jack87: afternoon :) Sep 26 21:57:51 dtzWill: having a good weekend will? Sep 26 21:58:19 jack87: haha yep, definitely. you? :) Sep 26 21:59:04 dtzWill: haha just busy with homework... and dealing with girls who dont understand what busy means. but other then that ya :) Sep 26 21:59:18 jack87: hahaha. sounds good Sep 26 22:01:08 What's new lately? Sep 26 22:02:51 meh, grad school, projects, life :) Sep 26 22:05:09 is it a fun project? that makes the world of a difference! Sep 26 22:05:27 haha, yes it does. and yeah i'm enjoying it :). Sep 26 22:05:35 and when i don't, i have webos stuff to keep me happy ;) Sep 26 22:06:26 hehe webos is awesome! how much left for school for you? Sep 26 22:07:03 hello cryptk|work! I hope all is going well! been a little while. Sep 26 22:07:26 jack87: lots :). just starting grad school, so i'll be here for a while Sep 26 22:07:34 indeed, busy atm though Sep 26 22:07:57 cryptk|work: Hehe do what you must. Sep 26 22:08:36 dtzWill: Ahh... So you must of just recently graduated! very nice! what was your original major. (were you working on senior projects then?) Sep 26 22:09:18 that did it Sep 26 22:09:54 cryptk|work: pull off what you needed to do? Sep 26 22:10:31 anyone watch football Sep 26 22:10:35 almost Sep 26 22:23:34 haha cryptk almost watches football Sep 26 22:23:37 :) Sep 26 22:24:06 dtzWill: he ran way! Sep 26 22:24:21 he'll be back :) Sep 26 22:24:27 I don't think so...he'll be back Sep 26 22:24:28 :D Sep 26 22:24:43 hi ka6sox-work! Sep 26 22:24:43 or will he? 0_o Sep 26 22:24:47 * dtzWill high-fives ka6sox Sep 26 22:25:08 hiya dtzWill Sep 26 22:25:09 halfhalo: your right eye seems a little swollen, might want to see a doctor o_O Sep 26 22:25:21 jack87, hope I answered what you needed! Sep 26 22:25:29 lol i ended up using that same emoticon haha Sep 26 22:25:48 ka6sox-work: indeed very helpful I cant tell you how much I appreciate all of that! Sep 26 22:26:08 hah Sep 26 22:26:10 np...sometimes after answering you think of a better answer. Sep 26 22:26:43 ka6sox-work: if you want to add anything thats cool! I have not completed my paper yet Sep 26 22:27:02 jack87, when is it due? Sep 26 22:27:04 monday? Sep 26 22:27:10 tuesday Sep 26 22:29:08 ka6sox-work: by the way... I apologize for my curiosity. I promise I was not fishing for confidential info. haha I was more so trying to discuses the subject little did i know your position. Sep 26 22:29:33 no problemo... Sep 26 22:31:17 * jack87 hates his business book. Makes no sense and is filled with random excerpts of the "classics" doesn't talk about business just abstract connections. Sep 26 22:49:46 test Sep 26 22:50:00 exam Sep 26 22:50:01 ting Sep 26 22:50:45 phone went to sleep. checkin if I disconnected... Sep 26 22:52:28 assesment Sep 26 23:04:02 what's good at kfc, haven't been in agggessss, but just found there's one close to me and i'm craving some chicken goodness Sep 26 23:04:15 popcorn chicken Sep 26 23:04:36 I love their popcorn chicken, but never go since the one near me is... interesting Sep 26 23:04:55 mmm popcorn chicken does sound good. Sep 26 23:07:49 hey in SDL on pre Sep 26 23:08:01 how do i capture a touchpad event is it a mouse click Sep 26 23:08:35 ryan[WIN]: yeppers. Sep 26 23:09:08 ryan[WIN]: multiple fingers have different mice identifiers too iirc :) Sep 26 23:09:18 dtzWill: they have grilled chicken! Sep 26 23:09:31 its good because it tastes like chicken not breading. Sep 26 23:10:05 jack87: that does sound good but i think i was craving breaded chicken Sep 26 23:10:17 mmmm... heart attacks.... Sep 26 23:10:20 jack87: but good to know i can hit it up and not kill myself Sep 26 23:10:22 haha exactly Sep 26 23:10:41 kfc doubledown Sep 26 23:10:44 http://www.kfc.com/doubledown/ Sep 26 23:10:51 dtzWill: I know what you mean.... thats what I thought to... then after trying the grilled stuff... ummm youll have to check it out Sep 26 23:10:53 chicken is the new bun Sep 26 23:11:01 heart attack to go! Sep 26 23:11:18 double down looks amazing!!! i want to try it but I think I would die Sep 26 23:11:19 zomg double down Sep 26 23:11:21 but you can get it grilled! Sep 26 23:11:40 i kinda want one? :( Sep 26 23:11:42 oh nice they have it with grill to! Sep 26 23:11:50 i'm also starrrving. haha Sep 26 23:11:58 This i did not know... i can die less Sep 26 23:14:43 alright off to get some munchies, bbl :) Sep 26 23:16:26 okok Sep 26 23:16:38 anyone been successful with getting mikmod support? Sep 27 01:43:46 hay Sep 27 01:43:56 can i get suggestions from yall Sep 27 01:44:01 on a control scheme Sep 27 01:44:22 sure Sep 27 02:00:47 SineOt, http://www.diod.es/ryanwin/shippre.zip Sep 27 02:01:02 run on palm pre Sep 27 02:01:40 I have a Pixi, will it run? :p Sep 27 02:02:16 nay Sep 27 02:02:29 P is CTRL Sep 27 02:02:39 t and v go left/right and f and h go up/down Sep 27 02:03:51 ah, no idea how to run it then :x Sep 27 02:03:56 :\ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Sep 27 02:59:57 2010