**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 14 02:59:57 2010 Oct 14 03:33:53 Do you guys have a wiki page for getting the emulator image running on a pc ? Oct 14 03:35:35 nope Oct 14 03:35:54 dang ok thnx Oct 14 03:36:47 installing virtualbox works well ;) Oct 14 03:38:24 anyone has a kernel for the pre with working kexec? Oct 14 03:39:00 playya: I don't think we ever got that to work, but I don't think we really tried that hard. Oct 14 03:39:15 ok Oct 14 03:40:04 kexec is hard to debug. kexec -l -> no error. kexec -e -> black screen :( Oct 14 03:41:12 yeah, you'd want to have a serial console somehow Oct 14 03:41:22 or maybe kgdb set up Oct 14 03:41:28 but we now have working shr images :) Oct 14 03:41:40 nice. touchscreen and wifi? Oct 14 03:41:51 wifi is unknown Oct 14 03:41:54 ts works Oct 14 03:42:37 i copied the th firmware to my image. need to check if libertas is in the kernel Oct 14 03:45:21 rwhitby, are you interested in running SHR on the pre? Oct 14 03:51:57 how do you actually paste text into novaterm? every time i hit paste, nothing actually pastes Oct 14 03:52:13 i'm trying to paste the public key for an intial rooting Oct 14 03:52:13 playya, kexec does not work on armv7 Oct 14 03:53:16 playya, and none oft he opensource drivers libertas/sd8686 will work on the pre Oct 14 03:53:22 there is some missing init code Oct 14 03:53:28 gpio related Oct 14 03:57:58 PullingJ: use novacom put Oct 14 03:58:10 ahh, i'll give that a try Oct 14 03:58:11 rwhitby: what... u dong debug by turning the vibrator pm and off for output? :) Oct 14 03:58:44 raster: morse code printk - interesting Oct 14 04:00:12 rwhitby: bzzzzzzzzzt bzzt bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt bzzzt bzzzt bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt Oct 14 04:01:09 then you just need to learn braille morse code Oct 14 04:02:31 hey.. it's kernel hacking. this is the fun bit :) Oct 14 04:06:24 playya: u get my message before u signed off? Oct 14 04:06:39 no Oct 14 04:06:48 kexec does not work on armv7 Oct 14 04:06:53 raster: ever used the omap3630 Oct 14 04:07:14 PuffTheMagic, oh :( Oct 14 04:07:29 even with the latest kernel? Oct 14 04:07:34 playya: not even in .35 Oct 14 04:07:48 i've backported every patch i could find relating to it Oct 14 04:07:50 nothing helps Oct 14 04:07:52 wasted a lot of time there Oct 14 04:08:30 rwhitby: nup. isn't it just the 3430 with better clocks? (ie up to 1ghz) ? Oct 14 04:08:33 w2ell ok Oct 14 04:08:36 i mean DESIGNEd for 1ghz Oct 14 04:08:45 brb Oct 14 04:12:07 pre 2 ! Oct 14 04:54:08 where does optware configuration stuff go? Oct 14 04:58:13 in /opt/etc/ipkg/ Oct 14 04:58:57 rwhitby: I don't think that's what I meant to ask. I meant, where is /etc for optware packages Oct 14 04:59:10 in /opt/etc Oct 14 05:00:22 hrm... so if I was looking for a config file for ez-ipupdate, it should be there? Oct 14 05:00:36 because it's not, and I've looked everywhere else I can think of Oct 14 08:24:07 morning Oct 14 09:17:46 rwhitby: yes, me Oct 14 09:18:25 hape_: please test Save/Restore 1.0.14 in the testing feed now Oct 14 09:18:47 it should save your MMS messages into an MMS.html file, and the attachments into an mms.zip file Oct 14 09:19:12 in wich folder they are saved Oct 14 09:19:31 normal save/restore behavioru Oct 14 09:19:49 into /media/internal/saverestore/com.palm.app.messaging/.zip Oct 14 09:20:23 you can then unpack that zip file elsewhere and see the MMS.html and mms.zip files Oct 14 09:25:28 hi hape & rwhitby Oct 14 09:26:00 g'day swisstomcat - do you have MMS messages on your phone? Oct 14 09:26:12 nah, never used MMS Oct 14 09:26:14 my ss is v1.0.13 and i do not have a mms.* in the zip file Oct 14 09:26:27 you need 1.0.14 Oct 14 09:28:41 grrr, no mobile service at the moment on my pre... Oct 14 09:28:50 try to get it working and updated Oct 14 09:50:56 needed to reebot. Preware is updating feeds right now Oct 14 09:53:52 putting the finishing touches on my mobiletuts tutorial .. part 5 already Oct 14 09:55:05 hape_: thx Oct 14 09:55:35 preware ist still downloading. I have a slow connection at the moment Oct 14 10:15:23 rwhitby: all fine. mms.* is there. The html file contais the list and the mms.zip the jpgs and some other files Oct 14 10:19:05 excellent, thanks Oct 14 10:20:48 our welcome Oct 14 10:21:00 s/our/your/ Oct 14 10:21:00 hape_ meant: your welcome Oct 14 16:18:20 hi Oct 14 16:20:04 Is this the right place to perhaps ask for help with a problem with my Pre? Oct 14 16:41:04 Anyone here that can answer a question about compiling on Gentoo? Oct 14 16:42:33 I am following the WIDK directions using the code sourcery toolchain, but it keeps complaining about crti.o Oct 14 16:43:56 dtzWill: ^ Oct 14 16:45:19 huh? Oct 14 16:45:36 tenspd137: he thinks I can help :). Oct 14 16:45:43 ahhh :) Oct 14 16:46:13 tenspd137: I haven't seen that issue, but I haven't tried personally on gentoo either. :/ Oct 14 16:46:35 hmm, gentoo... PuffTheMagic: ^ Oct 14 16:46:38 :) Oct 14 16:46:39 tenspd137: are you the guy who posted about this on the palm dev forums? (I think that's where it was?) Oct 14 16:46:48 oilsworkn: haha. but he doesn't use WIDK he has his own thing. Oct 14 16:46:54 oh Oct 14 16:47:02 Yeah - they sent me over here. Oct 14 16:47:13 tenspd137: what are you trying to use the WIDK for? the unfortunate truth is that it has a lot of stuff you don't need, and it's on our TODO to trim it down. Oct 14 16:47:36 tenspd137: chances are you just need the toolchain, rootfs, and some headers. Oct 14 16:48:15 tenspd137: WIDK presently is PDK+much more. great idea, but it's a bit difficult to maintain with the time/resources/interest we have. Oct 14 16:48:37 tenspd137: so that thread has your latest error/log? Oct 14 16:49:01 I am probably mis-informed, but I thought it was similar to the PDK, and I was just trying to see if I could get it to work. Oct 14 16:49:39 what about gentoo? Oct 14 16:49:41 It has the last error from me trying to build it. Oct 14 16:50:13 tenspd137: i use crossdev and emerge-wrappers to do all my dev work Oct 14 16:50:15 PuffTheMagic: cross compiling pdk stuff, alternative to widk Oct 14 16:50:16 it works like a charm Oct 14 16:50:27 PuffTheMagic: ah yeah you caught up, sorry :) Oct 14 16:51:31 tenspd137: did u have a question? Oct 14 16:52:00 I don't know a whole lot about cross compiling - I have been able to build a cross compiler and test simple programs with qemu, but other than that - I don't know how to compile something for say a Pre and get it to work on the simulator or on the device. Oct 14 16:52:09 tenspd137: ditch the armv6. i never saw it working, and the guy who made it work ..i don't know where he is. Oct 14 16:52:31 tenspd137: so make staging-armv7 instead of just 'stage'. you're failing building the armv6 version of glib, which is only important for targeting the pixi. Oct 14 16:52:31 Actually on the simulator. I don't have a Pre, but I need a new phone - I'd consider one if I knew I could program for it :) Oct 14 16:52:36 tenspd137: what did u pass to crossdev to build your toolchain Oct 14 16:52:54 being able to code for your own phone... priceless Oct 14 16:53:10 bah, phones are useless Oct 14 16:53:19 anyway listen to puff he'll probably give you gentoo goodness to make things right :) Oct 14 16:53:22 * dtzWill goes back to work Oct 14 16:53:34 ya Oct 14 16:53:36 i have an overlay Oct 14 16:53:42 of tweaked ebuilds Oct 14 16:53:47 and old ebuilds Oct 14 16:53:56 that match what is on the Pre userland Oct 14 16:54:13 i could push that to a git repo when i get back home Oct 14 16:54:35 wont be for a few hours cause i have class in a few min Oct 14 16:54:59 get yourself novacom/novaterm Oct 14 16:55:06 Last I tried make staging-armv7, it did the same thing - I am trying it now. As for crossdev I made an arm-none-linux-gnueabi Oct 14 16:55:07 so u can send your test apps to your device Oct 14 16:55:16 right Oct 14 16:55:16 but Oct 14 16:55:21 what args did u pass to crossdev Oct 14 16:55:29 you need to pick the right glib and binutils Oct 14 16:55:33 to avoid conflicts Oct 14 16:55:34 Hold on - trying to dig that up..... Oct 14 16:55:44 I don't remeber exactly. Oct 14 16:55:44 glibc 2.6.1 works well for me Oct 14 16:56:23 tenspd137: what TZ are u in? Oct 14 16:56:30 Mountain Oct 14 16:56:47 well i will be back home in 4 hours Oct 14 16:56:51 and i can give u all my detials Oct 14 16:57:09 force crossdev to use glibc 2.6.1 and binutils 2.19.x Oct 14 16:57:11 and u should be fine Oct 14 16:57:21 I just used -S to get the stable stuff - other than that - no other options Oct 14 16:58:00 -S is not going to cut it Oct 14 16:58:16 That would be cool. So I need to tell it glibc 2.6.1 binutils 2.19 - ok - I would apppreciate that. Oct 14 16:58:47 Like I said - never really tried too much cross compiling - figured I'd learn somewhere. Oct 14 16:58:52 :P Oct 14 17:00:27 Anyway - I would appreciate any hints - in fact if I can learn how to get it to work for me, I would even do a small write up if you don't mind showing me what you did. Then, if the question comes up - you could point to a wiki. Oct 14 17:01:40 Also, I'd be very interested in seeing the overlay you mentioned. Oct 14 17:02:13 msg NickServ /identify skyline Oct 14 17:02:36 oops - that didn't work. Oct 14 17:02:57 :/ Oct 14 17:03:10 almost as bad as student1 Oct 14 17:03:44 or hunter2 Oct 14 17:03:47 Guess I need to change that password - haha Oct 14 17:04:46 dtzWill: all i saw was ******* Oct 14 17:04:52 xD Oct 14 17:04:54 same Oct 14 17:04:59 :D Oct 14 17:06:05 Anyway - I need to go now - thanks for all the suggestions and offers of help. PuffTheMagic, I'll look around for you later today. I am at work, so may not be able to catch you, but I will try back until I can talk to you again. - haha - thanks! Oct 14 17:06:47 im always on Oct 14 17:06:51 just just give me a ping Oct 14 17:07:16 Great -thanks again! Corporate America calls *sigh* Oct 14 17:07:43 back to your cubicle! Oct 14 17:07:46 :) Oct 14 17:07:56 back to your cage oil! Oct 14 17:07:57 They recently shrunk it you know :( Oct 14 17:08:14 "yeah, I'm going to need you to come in on saturday..... yeah" Oct 14 17:08:31 *sigh again* c ya! Oct 14 17:13:24 oilsworkn: sounds like a case of the mondays Oct 14 17:13:33 lol Oct 14 17:13:46 "seems like you've been missing a lot of work recently" Oct 14 17:13:54 "can't say i've been missing it, bob" Oct 14 17:13:58 best line of that movie :) Oct 14 17:47:10 oilsworkn: best part of that movie is slow motion face he makes when that bitch says "high michael bolton" Oct 14 17:48:15 lol Oct 14 17:48:45 its just an all around great movie Oct 14 18:43:58 hmm..I may have finally found a patch to write... Oct 14 18:44:10 do tell! Oct 14 18:45:15 I'd like to see rssi for my wifi and cell signals on the taskbar..but I can't seem to find that someone's already done it Oct 14 18:45:42 ah Oct 14 18:45:49 * oilsworkn has never seen one Oct 14 18:47:49 could anyone point me to a app that lets you download full songs for free? I would use sites like www.playlist.com but no flash support Oct 14 18:57:45 lol didn't think I would get a response for that... lol Oct 14 18:59:11 I know there is music wave lite but it lacks how many sites it searches Oct 14 19:23:46 18 cards?!? Oct 14 19:23:47 wow Oct 14 19:23:55 oops wow Oct 14 19:23:57 sorry Oct 14 19:24:00 wrong channel Oct 14 19:54:34 hmm...where to get started.. this wiki stuff looks old Oct 14 19:59:54 got a question? Oct 14 20:06:30 looking to write my first patch, I've never really written anything for webos before, I'm just looking for documentation that I can read up on before I start asking questions Oct 14 20:08:54 hold on Oct 14 20:09:10 here is the patch portal: http://patches.webos-internals.org/ Oct 14 20:09:38 no problem, I'm putting together my htpc at the moment anyway Oct 14 20:10:00 make my transition to no cable tv a lot easier Oct 14 20:11:23 patch discussion: http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=1944821 Oct 14 20:33:06 is there a kindle app in the works for the pixi? been googling, so far with no luck. Oct 14 20:33:30 The screen is barely larger than a postage stamp Oct 14 20:33:33 not that I know of Oct 14 20:33:41 hey, its big enough for like, 3 words! Oct 14 20:34:26 I have an opportunity to get a pixi plus for free, but I do love my kindle app. Oct 14 20:34:35 the pixi plus isn't bad.. I got mine today heh Oct 14 20:34:46 if it can display pdf's well, I could suck it up with that instead. Oct 14 20:35:22 the carrier were like 'noooo.. can't find any mention of the touchstone cover for the pixi sorry.. so do you want it in black I assume? I doubt pink's your colour...' and I was like 'er.. yeah definitely, it's emasculating enough to have a phone called a pixie' Oct 14 20:35:32 so they sent me the phone plus a PINK touchstone cover Oct 14 20:35:34 baaaah Oct 14 20:36:50 Marajin but now your phone is 'fabulous' Oct 14 20:37:24 I had an hd2, a blackberry bold, and then the pixi.. the 4.3" screen on the hd2 swallows the pixi so far in my review Oct 14 20:37:32 yet, I do love palm and webos Oct 14 20:46:44 small crisis... I can't find the headphones that came with my Prē Oct 14 20:49:06 anomaly: I went (in relative recent times) HTC TyTn -> HTC TyTn II -> SE Xperia X1 (WVGA back then even!) -> Palm Pre -> SE Xperia X10 (8/54/ x 480) -> Palm Pixi Plus Oct 14 20:49:57 if I could have had a physical keyboard and WebOS on that Xperia X10.. Oct 14 20:49:58 oooh nommy Oct 14 20:50:23 8.1 Mpixel camera, 720p video, 1ghz snapdragon CPU, 384 meg of RAM and a 854x480 screen.. Oct 14 20:50:36 instead of course I get Android .. and Android 1.6 at that Oct 14 20:50:37 I had a Pre, original when it first came out. I got the loose slider problem with it.. just felt cheap. so, I went back to android for a while. but, with the new pixi plus and (I am told) there are good bug fixes in the new webos Oct 14 20:51:09 I just installed 2.2 on my hd2 with its snapdragon and 478mb ram and was happy Oct 14 20:51:35 I have honestly never ever played with android at all Oct 14 20:51:36 but WebOS beats the snot out of anything I've used for syncing multiple exchange and gmail and such accouns Oct 14 20:51:45 halfhalo: ya ain't missing much Oct 14 20:52:02 well, I'm fixing the sitiation today Oct 14 20:52:09 Marajin I work in i.t. and photography (go figure that combo out) so, it was love with webos.. the looks and under the hood. Oct 14 20:52:23 and I sorta need to have used an android phone since people keep asking me about it and whether to get it Oct 14 20:52:23 Plus I love the whole fact that WebOS is kinda like '...wanna mess with the OS? sure, go wild' Oct 14 20:52:34 halfhalo: haha. Oct 14 20:52:43 there's some decentish android phones I grant you Oct 14 20:52:55 but without the marketplace android is nothing.. /nothing/ Oct 14 20:52:55 well, I also do mobile webdev Oct 14 20:53:06 yeah I just used my first non-nook android device the other day and I was not impressed Oct 14 20:53:23 Marajin got to love all the tracking some of the apps phone home about though.. gps locations, habits and such. android has some privacy concerns to fess up about Oct 14 20:53:39 anomaly: it's the google ethos Oct 14 20:53:56 sensor rich responses from apps Oct 14 20:54:18 although the phone is only running 2.1 I believe Oct 14 20:54:35 android kinda scares me.. I'm carting around a phone that can recognize what can I'm holding, knows where I am, how fast I'm moving and what direction I'm facing.. my orientation, my light level.. it can see and hear everything going on around it Oct 14 20:54:39 it's all kinda scary :P Oct 14 20:55:04 particularily cause I know it likes telling the world that data Oct 14 20:56:10 coupla people I know freaked the hell out when my Xperia X10 didn't just do face-detection but face-recognition Oct 14 20:56:18 'Oh that's Annie!' it said Oct 14 20:56:28 and they were like '...zomg, I don't like that it can do that' Oct 14 20:56:46 in some ways it's awesome tech but these devices know way too damn much of their own volition Oct 14 20:57:16 well, with my device it will not be rooted/modded in any real way Oct 14 20:57:33 halfhalo: that's a stock feature of the Xperia X10 firmware Oct 14 20:57:42 I know Oct 14 21:00:09 heh :P Oct 14 21:07:15 PuffTheMagic - you around? Oct 14 21:08:58 I am told to look into uberkernel and govnah.. will have to look into that.. apparently it makes it work better. Oct 14 21:09:28 * anomaly has much reading to do to get educated on this phone :p Oct 14 21:12:53 they are a nice combo Oct 14 21:20:29 anyone know where files that get streamed are temp. stored on the device? Oct 14 21:23:50 need help with Advanced App Configuration Launcher, I had to re-install it did EPR and everything but once installed the Preferences are missing Oct 14 21:24:14 every other feature is in the launcher but Preferences Oct 14 21:30:44 sugardave: so can you help me? Oct 14 21:31:07 sorry, I cannot Oct 14 21:31:42 I don't run many patches or advanced apps Oct 14 21:31:56 sugardave: oh Oct 14 21:32:24 its just I don't understand how something can work once before but not now Oct 14 21:33:31 sugardave: who can I chat to for help? Oct 14 21:35:01 your best bet now is to keep checking in here every, I don't know, 20-30 minutes and see if anybody else is active Oct 14 21:35:04 sorry, man Oct 14 21:35:19 hey any1 here? Oct 14 21:35:28 Ziomatrix is Oct 14 21:35:30 :D Oct 14 21:35:32 haha Oct 14 21:35:45 how excited are you for 2.0? Oct 14 21:35:53 pretty damn excited Oct 14 21:35:58 and WHEN is it comibg out? Oct 14 21:36:01 nda Oct 14 21:36:11 I'm so angry I want it Oct 14 21:36:38 have you guys seen the new palm keyboardless phone? a rumor but still sweet Oct 14 21:37:08 is anyone familiar with Advanced Configuration App Launcher patch? Oct 14 21:37:18 no what's it about? Oct 14 21:37:28 oh ya I am what's up Oct 14 21:38:14 its supposed to roll up most of the app launching patches into one utility accessible from the Launcher Oct 14 21:38:38 what's ur question? Oct 14 21:38:42 ryantzor: problem is when I try to install it one of the critical menus called Preferences for adjusting icon size and per a row is missing Oct 14 21:39:07 ryantzor: all other features for adding and deleting pages is there, its just the Preferences is missing Oct 14 21:39:25 ziomatrix let me see what mine looks like Oct 14 21:40:00 it recommends you run EPR before installing if you have other Launcher patches Oct 14 21:41:30 does quick launch screw it up too?, Oct 14 21:42:06 ziomatrix does does quick launch screw it up too?, Oct 14 21:42:28 ryantzor: it states any Launch patches, I think I see what I did. I re-ran WebOS Doctor to reformat my system because it was stalling and the screen would spontaneously turn on every once in a while until I plugged headphones into it. Oct 14 21:43:04 ok so it doesn't do that anymore? Oct 14 21:43:11 anyway to make a long story short I may have ran a version that put v1.4.0 on the system when I need v1.4.5 Oct 14 21:43:13 yes Oct 14 21:43:37 does that patch require v1.4.5? Oct 14 21:44:08 ziomatrix yup Oct 14 21:44:43 ryantzor: ok so thats probably it, I gotta get going soon so I don't have enough time to install the firmware. But I can keep anyone here posted later Oct 14 21:45:04 ziomatrix ya I can't even get it to install haha Oct 14 21:45:38 ryantzor: interesting that it still installed on mine :-/ Oct 14 21:45:43 abet a bit crippled Oct 14 21:46:12 ziomatrix you should doctor it and do update then do it Oct 14 21:47:01 so you're saying running a version of WebOS doctor that puts v1.4.5 on it? Is there any out? Oct 14 21:47:12 I already doctored it Oct 14 21:49:28 unfortunately there seems to be no WebOS Doctor 1.4.5 for VZW yet Oct 14 21:49:53 really? I've used it...erm...twice. Oct 14 21:50:16 Loudergood: strange, I just see hits for the Sprint one Oct 14 21:50:43 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions#Verizon_Wireless Oct 14 21:51:13 thanks Oct 14 21:51:31 you all, laterz Oct 14 22:22:35 is it possible that the proximity sensor only supports 2 values? Oct 14 22:23:03 on and off? Oct 14 22:23:26 i get 99 as near value and 100 as far value Oct 14 22:23:26 or "near and not"? Oct 14 22:23:35 makes sense Oct 14 22:23:43 thats all its used for really Oct 14 22:24:37 maybe you want to build a messueremtent tool? Oct 14 22:25:03 (i don't know the english word for zollstock ) Oct 14 23:03:49 hey, does anyone know how to take off those rounded corners from the top under the top bar? Oct 14 23:04:50 webizard: pocketkinfe Oct 14 23:04:57 lol knife Oct 14 23:05:02 and bad joke anyway Oct 14 23:05:03 lol Oct 14 23:05:52 I thought the patch for topbar wallpaper would do it but I guess not... Oct 15 00:36:11 PuffTheMagic: You around? Oct 15 00:55:38 yup Oct 15 00:59:48 tenspd137: ping, puff's here now :) Oct 15 01:01:09 im always here Oct 15 01:02:33 no, you disconnected for a bit today :) Oct 15 01:22:28 oh yeah Oct 15 01:22:35 was flashing my router Oct 15 01:22:43 trying to get hfs+ support Oct 15 01:22:57 gonna have to build a damn custom ddwrt fimrware i think Oct 15 01:23:08 So, I want to draw something for the webOS tablet competition, the only problem is, people keep entering these high res 3D mockups. What would be my chances of winning with my simple hand drawn and colored entry? Oct 15 01:23:25 0 Oct 15 01:25:19 :P Oct 15 01:25:30 These contests are so rigged. Oct 15 01:25:52 Only someone with a lot of money for high end art programs, or a huge amount of skill can win. Oct 15 01:26:00 How about the average joe! Oct 15 01:26:52 blender and gimp? Oct 15 01:27:13 Got GIMP, but I don't know how to use Blender. Oct 15 01:27:23 And GIMP is very far behind right now. Oct 15 02:01:20 PuffTheMagic:You around? Oct 15 02:09:43 tenspd137: he was earlier, you guys keep missing each other :) Oct 15 02:10:15 tenspd137_, su0p Oct 15 02:10:46 Hi. How are you? Oct 15 02:11:09 i forgot i made a wiki page Oct 15 02:11:12 what was the link to that Oct 15 02:11:23 Sorry - had to work late, plus time difference - ehh - hold on - I'll get it. Oct 15 02:11:38 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/PuffTheMagic_NDK Oct 15 02:11:53 eww Oct 15 02:11:54 no Oct 15 02:11:55 dont use that Oct 15 02:11:59 that is for ubuntu people Oct 15 02:12:07 i mean... Oct 15 02:12:22 some of it is validfor gentoo Oct 15 02:12:27 likethe package.mask Oct 15 02:12:33 I figured use the same steps, just not ubuntu - I already have portage :) Oct 15 02:12:45 in other words, just pkg.mask Oct 15 02:13:07 but some of those ebuilds dont exist any more Oct 15 02:13:16 i had to pull them out of the cvs Oct 15 02:13:20 cvs history Oct 15 02:13:35 when i get a chance i will upload my overlay Oct 15 02:13:58 Oh - well, just a thought. Anyway, there is also this: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Building_a_cross_toolchain Oct 15 02:14:15 Sure - just let me know when you do. Oct 15 02:14:25 yeah that was really old Oct 15 02:14:33 i should fix that too Oct 15 02:14:44 use glibc 2.6.1 like i said Oct 15 02:14:47 haha - well, I guess not many people ask about this. Oct 15 02:14:50 no Oct 15 02:14:59 most people dont use gentoo here Oct 15 02:15:06 Yeah - that is what I was trying to remeber - I wrote it down at work - and then left it. Oct 15 02:15:13 1 sec Oct 15 02:17:33 sys-devel/binutils-2.19.1-r1 Oct 15 02:17:33 sys-devel/gcc-4.3.4 Oct 15 02:17:34 sys-libs/glibc-2.6.1 Oct 15 02:17:41 is what i used for crossdev Oct 15 02:18:09 Great - thanks! Oct 15 02:18:45 and... Oct 15 02:18:53 I'll start there, and then look at your overlay when you get a chance to share it. Oct 15 02:19:16 http://ompldr.org/vNXRoaw/overlay.tar.bz2 Oct 15 02:19:21 that should get you started Oct 15 02:19:28 use crossdev-999999 Oct 15 02:19:31 fabulous - thank you very much :) Oct 15 02:19:52 tenspd137_, that overlay comes without warranty Oct 15 02:19:58 i have been meaning to clean it up Oct 15 02:20:03 and make it nicer Oct 15 02:20:14 Understood - as do most overlays - that is the point :) Oct 15 02:20:26 i would if more people used it Oct 15 02:20:41 but the 2 other that have are not around much Oct 15 02:20:49 and i never could get rwhitby on board with it Oct 15 02:21:25 Sad - I prefer gentoo to pretty much everything else, but I like to try and tinker so.... Oct 15 02:21:54 yeah i was gonna make a stage4 Oct 15 02:21:59 that people could use Oct 15 02:22:04 in a chroot Oct 15 02:22:15 but it is sorta a pain in the ass to use Oct 15 02:22:19 which is why i installed ubuntu Oct 15 02:22:25 and make a portage deb for ubuntu Oct 15 02:22:33 yes... portage works on ubuntu ;) Oct 15 02:23:12 Thats pretty cool. That is really the other thing I like about gentoo. My friends aren't quite sold though.. Oct 15 02:23:35 gentoo is great if u tinker in source Oct 15 02:23:41 and do development Oct 15 02:23:54 else may as well use Archlinux Oct 15 02:23:58 or Ubuntu Oct 15 02:25:06 Well, before I found gentoo, I used Fedora because everyone I knew used it, but I got really fed up with RPMs. Maybe it is better now, but I am too lazy to bother going back. Oct 15 02:25:15 apt fw Oct 15 02:25:20 lol Oct 15 02:25:22 never Oct 15 02:25:28 ebuilds are the shit Oct 15 02:26:08 Once you figure out how they work, really powerful stuff. Oct 15 02:26:58 Well, thanks again - I really appreciate the pointers. I have to run - wife is calling, I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again! Oct 15 02:27:26 later Oct 15 02:29:42 Mythbusters make my day. Oct 15 02:31:30 hello all, so where does webos store the layout of the application launcher panels? Oct 15 02:49:26 how do i put my pixi into develop mode to install preware? Oct 15 02:49:51 upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart Oct 15 02:50:00 type that when nothing is on the screen Oct 15 02:50:44