**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 27 02:59:57 2010 Oct 27 03:23:08 hello Oct 27 03:24:34 just installed wIRC and I think I got it working now so if someone could confirm... Oct 27 03:24:55 well, I can read what you're saying, so I guess yes :] Oct 27 03:25:03 sweet Oct 27 03:33:27 hello i have a question, would someone mind to help? Oct 27 03:33:54 I'll see if I can help Oct 27 03:33:58 thanks. Oct 27 03:34:20 i installed preware and a good amount of apps, patches. shortly after, Oct 27 03:34:48 the screens ripple icon will go all over the screen when depressed Oct 27 03:35:20 its an annoying bug, and i think it might be a conflict. have you heard of this before? Oct 27 03:35:26 that's weird Oct 27 03:35:48 mine does that if I have it hooked up to a poorly grounded USB port Oct 27 03:35:54 I think I might have heard of something like that before Oct 27 03:36:10 (namely, my netbook, since i broke the bottom casing and it's a grounding nightmare now of glue and metal shims) Oct 27 03:36:12 on the precentral forums Oct 27 03:36:22 this happens after the phone is on its batt., but on for about 45 minutes and happens alot with the music player Oct 27 03:36:40 so sometimes sooner Oct 27 03:37:13 in my case, I know it's a grounding issue, so I don't think it's related to the patches, etc Oct 27 03:37:21 did you install anything like Uberkernel? Oct 27 03:37:25 is it a pre, pixi, pre plus? Oct 27 03:37:42 thanks, but it happens with no usb plugged in Oct 27 03:37:51 no uberkernal, im not saavy enough for that Oct 27 03:38:09 you can have grounding problems without usb plugged in :3 Oct 27 03:38:13 umm a pixi pre plus, the one with the backlit mini keyboard under the touchscreen Oct 27 03:38:23 just ask all those Droid Incredible owners Oct 27 03:38:31 pixi pre plus? Oct 27 03:38:37 "Pixi Pre Plus?" Oct 27 03:38:38 either a pixi or a pre Oct 27 03:38:42 It's either a pixi, or a pre Oct 27 03:38:51 i hope its not grounding i already had the phone replaced once and no insurance Oct 27 03:39:17 or clean the screen real good Oct 27 03:39:19 :) Oct 27 03:39:44 check the casing, check the battery Oct 27 03:40:13 its good as far as i know.. sorry i ave trouble remembering the make, i think pre plus Oct 27 03:40:20 I found a topic on the PC forums for your problem Oct 27 03:40:31 really? can i have the link?> Oct 27 03:40:55 but I'm on Forums beta and I don't know how to copy/paste link Oct 27 03:40:59 :( Oct 27 03:41:11 anyone used forums beta? Oct 27 03:41:22 Didn't even know there was one. Oct 27 03:41:35 Just give the threat title and it should be findable with a search. Oct 27 03:41:36 goto navigation line, where the adress is and can you select the whole line and right-click then copy? Oct 27 03:41:54 unless that would comprimise you userid or something Oct 27 03:42:29 I'm on Forums beta not the browser Oct 27 03:42:38 huh...ok Oct 27 03:43:03 title is: Palm Pre touching itself!!?? Oct 27 03:43:10 ahaha Oct 27 03:43:26 lol sorry I'm on my phone not on comp Oct 27 03:43:44 ahh, i understand Oct 27 03:44:27 forums.precentral.com? Oct 27 03:44:32 yes Oct 27 03:45:06 in the Palm Pre subforum Oct 27 03:48:28 cool. thanks rsanchez Oct 27 03:48:33 will try to doctor it. Oct 27 03:48:37 thanks all Oct 27 03:50:21 wIRC is nice Oct 27 03:50:42 this is what I'm going to be using during class from now on Oct 27 04:57:57 howdy again! Oct 27 04:58:02 Did I miss any n900 talk? Oct 27 04:58:20 no Oct 27 04:58:44 dtzWill: still around? Oct 27 04:58:47 k :) Oct 27 05:09:45 RX-51 are the n8[10]0 boards? Oct 27 05:09:59 just revived my n800 yesterday Oct 27 05:10:25 Woa there's multiple n800s in this channel?? Interesting! Oct 27 05:13:05 a n900 UK fw link has filenames that start with RX-51, maybe they're both ? Oct 27 05:15:34 n800 is rx-34 Oct 27 05:15:42 http://wiki.maemo.org/Codenames Oct 27 05:25:32 oh revived, I thought you said received :) what was the occassion? Oct 27 05:29:47 anyone know anything about "stub" libraries? Is that just a library with all the appropriate function calls in it, but they do nothing? (Like, placeholders?) Oct 27 05:35:30 ajay: yep Oct 27 05:38:43 ajay: yep, and I'm in/out although if i'm doing the right thing i'll be sleeping soon O:) Oct 27 05:38:55 but lucky for you i'm definitely not the only one who can help :D Oct 27 05:40:54 Or are you... Oct 27 05:41:15 halfhalo: nope :D Oct 27 05:41:35 Well then.. Carry on Oct 27 05:42:03 halfhalo: ;) Oct 27 05:42:12 dtzWill: ? You mean there are others in the channel interested in n900 apps on the Pre? Oct 27 05:42:38 dtzWill: My server is slightly too old for me to run the tool to extract the firmware :( Oct 27 05:42:45 ajay: maybe maybe not but in general if you have questions others would probably help :) Oct 27 05:43:09 dtzWill: Think you could run a quick extract before bed? Oct 27 05:43:10 my rs timed out and i relaunched it and them it got some net error... lol Oct 27 05:43:13 dammit rs Oct 27 05:43:23 ajay: i'd be happy to if i can get the image :) Oct 27 05:43:26 rs? Oct 27 05:43:40 haha.. do you not use a downloader that can continue d/ls? Oct 27 05:43:46 Wait I thought you were using wget? Oct 27 05:43:54 ajay: rapidshare. i have no idea why i called it 'rs' Oct 27 05:44:00 ajay: yeah but then rs counts it as a different dl Oct 27 05:44:02 oh stupid me :) Oct 27 05:44:15 dtzWill: ? same filename, so should be fine? Oct 27 05:44:18 and the responds with an html file telling me i have to wait 15min Oct 27 05:44:21 Ewww...rapidshare Oct 27 05:44:32 ajay: I /agree/ but that's not what's happening Oct 27 05:44:32 lol Oct 27 05:44:52 weird Oct 27 05:45:05 Roll your own FTP server Oct 27 05:45:46 -c Oct 27 05:45:52 ajay: yeppers Oct 27 05:46:45 that metaphor about riding a bike is true, I guess i still remember how to use irc.. ;) Oct 27 05:47:06 :D Oct 27 05:47:28 Once you go telnet, you never go sane Oct 27 05:47:48 ajay: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReferencePlatforms/Test/N900-PR1.2 seems very relevant Oct 27 05:47:53 halfhalo: you could be one of those automated bots with quotes like that! :) Oct 27 05:48:01 dtzWill: I think I'm on that page :) Oct 27 05:48:04 hahaha :D Oct 27 05:48:08 great minds, or something. Oct 27 05:48:16 * halfhalo is a bot Oct 27 05:49:50 dtzWill: that was the page that had the tool (flasher-3.5) that I can't run b/c i'm too old Oct 27 05:50:18 err i'm looking for flasher now.. not seeing it. Oct 27 05:51:04 hm http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php?f=maemo_flasher-3.5_2.5.2.2.tar.gz Oct 27 05:52:26 ajay: used flasher to unpack, successful. Oct 27 05:52:52 dtzWill: ooooo oo o o o Oct 27 05:53:06 still have the jffs/ubi thing Oct 27 05:53:09 can you toss me liblocation.so.0 ? Oct 27 05:53:55 the-heck is it doing with modprobe nandsim, etc? Oct 27 05:58:17 dtzWill: Dunno, I'm confused tho, you said you got it extracted? But.. that mozilla page did mention something about kernel modules.. Oct 27 05:58:30 ajay: i extracted the .bin, it gives you a .ubi file. Oct 27 05:58:40 dtzWill: ah, step 1 :) Oct 27 05:58:45 sorry i know nothing about ubi stuff Oct 27 05:58:52 yeah their script dies and don't feel like debugging it Oct 27 06:00:09 dtzWill: Yeah I don't know either. do you not have that nandsim module? I don't have it compiled either.. Oct 27 06:00:33 i have all the tools they're referring to. just trying to figure out wtf they do :). Oct 27 06:03:07 dtzWill: looks like a more interesting way of creating a virtual device/disk in memory Oct 27 06:03:23 seems like it, but i have some issue doing it. Oct 27 06:03:26 actually I shouldn't say more interesting as I never make memory disks Oct 27 06:03:31 can create the nandsim as they want, and dd the image to it Oct 27 06:03:38 but then the modprobe ubi mtd=0 dies terribly Oct 27 06:04:17 hm, interesting that you have all these modules already compiled, I wonder why I don't.. Oct 27 06:05:05 that definitely seems like an important step, so.. bother. Oct 27 06:05:19 bahhh I beleive I'm hitting http://www.linux-mtd.infradead.org/faq/ubi.html#L_subpage_verify_fail Oct 27 06:07:48 and I do have that enabled in my kernel lol. Oct 27 06:08:53 alright I should let you get to sleep as you wanted, was hoping it'd be quick Oct 27 06:09:09 dtzWill: heh.. so you build your own kernel? Oct 27 06:09:36 ajay: not normally, only when I have to :). Oct 27 06:10:36 dtzWill: are you running a custom-kernel now? Just curious Oct 27 06:10:50 I am not. Oct 27 06:11:06 I wonder if that's something you can disable with an echo 0 > /proc/something Oct 27 06:11:31 if it were it'd be lame for them to tell you to turn it off instead of just doing the proc setting Oct 27 06:13:28 dtzWill: yeah, so maybe not.. dang that's too bad.. Oct 27 06:31:03 dtzWill: maybe ask in the #maemo forum about this next time you have a min.. Oct 27 06:44:05 ajay: what libraries did you want? ;) :D Oct 27 06:45:13 dtzWill: You're not playing with me here, right?? liblocation.so.0 Oct 27 06:46:15 ajay: not at all. hmm if you weren't limited on disk space i'm ship you the whole image, compressed. (but in a friednly format) Oct 27 06:46:24 ajay: not at all playing with you i mean :). Oct 27 06:47:09 dtzWill: you extracted it?! Oct 27 06:47:46 dtzWill: My server has space, so you can email it to me there. If you could dcc me liblocation.so.0 real quick in the meantime that'd be super exciting :) Oct 27 06:48:02 ajay: yeah. rebuilt my kernel without that option (wtf do I care about verifying nand writes lol) Oct 27 06:48:45 to be more clear, that particular option doesn't seem to serve much purpose other than to break things. Oct 27 06:48:48 anyway Oct 27 07:00:28 dtzWill: cool you have a decent connection too. :) Oct 27 07:00:40 ajay: what're you getting? :) Oct 27 07:01:00 s/what/what speed/ Oct 27 07:01:01 dtzWill meant: ajay: what speed're you getting? :) Oct 27 07:01:08 ~250-300. not great. better than rs :) Oct 27 07:01:18 hahaha yeah. that sounds about right. Oct 27 07:01:24 I was getting 1M/s off you :) Oct 27 07:01:30 and seing as my down here is ~1.2MB/s Oct 27 07:01:37 :D Oct 27 07:01:49 dtzWill: woa! oh, okay your upstream is less.. sound like DSL speeds Oct 27 07:02:40 ajay: I was downloading to my desktop, you're pulling off my server :). Oct 27 07:03:57 ajay: did I got you right that you try to get the n900 skype client working on the Pre? That would be amazing Oct 27 07:04:14 hope: no I still need the binary for that, I doubt it will work Oct 27 07:04:25 I'm working on Fennec and Opera now Oct 27 07:04:51 ajay: the image I sent has misc skype-related files on it O:) but no skype binary afaict Oct 27 07:05:04 libgstskype.so, etc Oct 27 07:05:09 huh Oct 27 07:05:34 hope: It would I know, I'm glad I'm not the only one who's excited about the prospect :) Oct 27 07:05:36 libskype-plugin.so sounds promising :D Oct 27 07:06:54 ajay: I'm a dumbass and built that tarball as a normal user, not root, and the mounted partition has things with root permissions. Oct 27 07:07:11 I can update it, but probably wann finish waht you're grabbing... it has all the libs and stuff anyway Oct 27 07:07:26 just misc config stuff, not sure how interesting. but i'd rather get you evertying than take that risk :) Oct 27 07:08:34 dtzWill: i finished Oct 27 07:13:01 fail. Oct 27 07:13:07 opera and fennec report the same error: ./opera: symbol lookup error: ./libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_dgettext Oct 27 07:17:56 ajay: check which libglib it's using. Oct 27 07:18:04 ajay: possibly using the pre's one instead of the n900's one. Oct 27 07:18:27 (unless you were careful to ensure you set LD_LIBRARY_PATH or something to give the n900 ones preferences) Oct 27 07:21:22 ajay: what fennec/opera binaries are you using, etc? Oct 27 07:24:15 dtzWill: oh good call.. I just ran it with LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./opera Oct 27 07:24:36 dtzWill: Opera/fennec binaries are straight from the source(s) Oct 27 07:25:19 while you were typing (while I was gone) i had the opposite idea Oct 27 07:25:34 rwhitby: I'm thinking maybe this is when I use your suggestion, to use the WIDK libs Oct 27 07:26:05 (assuming libgtk, etc are part of the widk build) Oct 27 07:26:06 ajay: humor me and point me in the direction of the fennec binaries? Oct 27 07:26:09 did you build them you mean? Oct 27 07:26:23 ajay: gtk is, but it'll try to use gtk apps, which means X. Oct 27 07:26:51 which means I'll have to go fix the x packages. they're not broken as much as the nice design of sharing libraries between packages got broken by 1.4.5's jails and i've never gone back to fix it up Oct 27 07:28:02 dtzWill: Umm.. i'm a nub to dpkg system hierarchy layout, but the fennec.install file points to http://moff.mozilla.com/latest-beta/maemo/en-US/ Oct 27 07:28:03 ajay: found fennec, sorry. didn't realize what you meant :). Oct 27 07:28:32 ajay: kk ty. Oct 27 07:28:51 dtzWill: ok. yeah I Didn'tbuild from src, since my goal is to get binaries of programs working (a la preenv). opera - http://deb.opera.com/maemo/pool/non-free/o/opera-mobile/ Oct 27 07:29:43 dtzWill: Okay, I understand what you're saying about X now. interesting.. Oct 27 07:30:05 so does the n900 run X?! haha Oct 27 07:30:16 amazing the things i don't know about that device :) Oct 27 07:30:39 dtzWill: This is what I'm wondering! Oct 27 07:31:15 seems like it, since they have 'x terminal', ad gtk, etc Oct 27 07:32:41 dtzWill: I guess so! I was noticing x11vnc, which seems an easy download to use Oct 27 07:33:32 I wonder if that means an X11 server has to be running (bg or fg) to use fennec/Opera/skype Oct 27 07:33:54 dtzWill: Why is it amazing what you don't know? Should you know more about the n900? Oct 27 07:34:24 As an aside, any SDL experts in here? Oct 27 07:34:25 oh haha idk. just we're doing all this and don't now answer to fundametanl questions like this :). Oct 27 07:34:45 yeah haha.. it's true Oct 27 07:35:43 dtzWill: Well, if you have Pre binaries of everything else, and X, installed on your Pre I guess I'll be curious to see if you can run these apps! Oct 27 07:36:16 Oh, and for whoever mentioned skype as coming, the skype that's coming to WebOS is 1) Coming ONLY to Verizon and 2) Only on 3G Oct 27 07:37:37 It's a skype-Verizon deal. Similar is true in the Nokia app store - nobody in the U.S. can download skype Oct 27 07:38:48 there's a way to prevent sshd from sleeping when the screen shuts off right? Oct 27 07:40:45 damn why do I have to d/l the whole SDK to get novaterm on MacOS. blah Oct 27 07:41:19 <[AD]Turbo> hi there Oct 27 07:41:29 hi! Oct 27 07:42:39 ajay: I know the skpye will only come to vz, that is why I like the idea that you try the n900 stuff Oct 27 07:43:42 hope: yeah earlier in the night when I mentioned my idea, there was somebody poo-poohing me. I don't know why people say no. They can say yes, or nothing. I get frustrated by receiving "no"s and "dont"s. Oct 27 07:44:15 oops I just realized I've been misreading your name, oops! :) Oct 27 07:44:54 (I have verizon so the 3g is the bigger issue than the wifi for me, but i know most WebOS users are not on verizon) Oct 27 07:45:19 I'd bet extracting skype from a vz Pre2 would be easier than extracting mobile hotspot tho Oct 27 07:47:35 <[AD]Turbo> is it possible to use ARM RVCT to compile native webos apps/libs? Oct 27 07:51:07 ajay: Yep, wron nick. But I see your post anyway ;-) Oct 27 07:52:49 dammit i sohuld gtb. Oct 27 07:52:54 but LOTS of fun if you take that tarball Oct 27 07:52:57 through it on your device Oct 27 07:53:00 and chroot into it O:) Oct 27 07:53:26 you'll need a large /var partitoin, not sure if this device i did the "extra space for /var" metadoctor trick or not Oct 27 07:53:50 but they have xorg, apt-get, and all kinds of goodies i'm pained to say i won't get to explore Oct 27 07:54:07 b/c it's rather past my bedtime and important-ish meeting bright and early tomorrow :( Oct 27 07:54:13 dtzWill: hmm.. Oct 27 07:54:27 lulz i'm doing and apt-get update Oct 27 07:54:28 hahaha Oct 27 07:54:33 have fun! Oct 27 07:54:35 * dtzWill sees if he can get new packages THAT way Oct 27 07:54:41 since that's the other way to upgrade your device, right? :P Oct 27 07:54:46 dont forget to recompile your kernel (if you need) Oct 27 07:55:01 recompile my pre's kernel you mean? Oct 27 07:55:08 dtzWill: metadoctor you mean? oh apt-get yeah for sure Oct 27 07:55:18 wow i'm confused. lol. Oct 27 07:55:19 dtzWill: no your linux kernel :) or restore the orig.. Oct 27 07:55:32 oh I recompiled it, taht's how I extracted it and got you the things you wanted lol Oct 27 07:55:59 dtzWill: yeah so dunno if you need to put the original kernel back before going to bed.. jus checkin Oct 27 07:56:11 oh haha nah. that setting is not important. ty though :) Oct 27 07:56:28 also they have a flashplayer Oct 27 07:56:30 just saying Oct 27 07:56:30 lol Oct 27 07:56:49 hahaha Oct 27 07:56:51 apt-get upgrade tells me i have 1100 packages that are presently held back hahaha Oct 27 07:57:19 that's true they _do_ have a flash player on n900, I hear. That'd probably be slightly more difficult to work (what with it being in the browser and all!) Oct 27 07:57:49 rofl i kinda wanna do a dist upgrade Oct 27 07:57:50 :P Oct 27 07:57:59 dtzWill: I'm seeing which libs its referencing on the pre and copying n900 versions.. this is getting ridiculous :) Oct 27 07:58:02 whta ARE the specs of the n900 lol. how hard would it be to actualy get this shnit running Oct 27 07:58:25 ajay: copy them all and then just LD_LIBRARY_PATH=:.:/path/to/n900libs/ ./opera ? Oct 27 07:58:26 dtzWill: dist-upgrades are fun Oct 27 07:58:35 anyway I think we'll need to get X working, and possibly THEIR x Oct 27 07:58:41 . first? Oct 27 07:58:42 haha Oct 27 07:58:42 they also have a legit x server which is exciting Oct 27 07:58:59 i hacked xsdl and extended it with gles to get something usable, but... Oct 27 07:59:02 ahhh the possibilities Oct 27 07:59:04 oh yeah that's true Oct 27 07:59:11 why do I have to have a job that prevents me from doing this 24/7 Oct 27 07:59:14 :D Oct 27 07:59:18 so maybe take back that last haha Oct 27 07:59:23 yeah i'm unemployed at the moment :) Oct 27 07:59:38 i'm not really doing the dist-upgrade, but a humorous possibility Oct 27 08:01:21 dtzWill: i figured Oct 27 08:01:37 I don't know why you would put . in the LD_ path first though Oct 27 08:02:07 ajay: oh because you had it before, idk. Oct 27 08:02:14 :D Oct 27 08:02:20 wasn't sure what you had where :) Oct 27 08:02:51 hmm, opera didn't complain about a library, but didn't start, odd Oct 27 08:03:22 ajay: it probably needs X or something :). Oct 27 08:03:36 dtzWill: oh yeah.. Oct 27 08:04:33 dtzWill: nah it should give errors like when I try to run opera from cli Oct 27 08:04:33 opera: cannot connect to X server Oct 27 08:04:33 opera: Fatal error on creating Qt application object Oct 27 08:04:58 too bad opera doesn't take cmd-line switches (that I know of) Oct 27 08:05:10 ajay: for now, find a linux box Oct 27 08:05:16 and ssh forward it to something you have X on Oct 27 08:05:20 or run X on your mac or w/e Oct 27 08:05:24 (you said you have a mac, right?) Oct 27 08:05:37 then you can get that going, albeit slowly, without worrying about X on the device...yet Oct 27 08:06:22 dtzWill: now we're getting somewhere! fennec: Error: no display specified Oct 27 08:06:59 i'm running on a hackintosh now (yeah, gross i know). i need to buy a HDD and get ubuntu back into my world quick Oct 27 08:07:09 I do have chicken of the vnc Oct 27 08:07:32 what version of mac os x do you have? thoought X was shipped as part of it. Oct 27 08:07:38 maybe it's just shipped as part of xcode, i don't remember. Oct 27 08:07:41 hm, dunno Oct 27 08:07:55 10.5.8 i dunno anything about X Oct 27 08:08:37 there's a Xephyr Oct 27 08:11:24 dtzWill: i ought to bed too, we'll continue this another day.. ;^) Oct 27 08:11:42 haha yeah... Oct 27 08:11:44 but it's so fun! xD Oct 27 08:42:45 gah.. if it requires a metadoctoring to get skype/fennec/etc to work on WebOS (not saying that it will work yet) then dunno if that's mainstream palatable! Oct 27 08:42:48 (Which was my goal) Oct 27 08:43:19 but it does open up a lot of interesting possibilites Oct 27 08:43:51 oh yeah I think we can find a better solution. the metadoctoring was just to get a ext3 partition so symlinks worked Oct 27 08:44:14 you can definitely make it work on other partitions, and probably with a MUCH smaller subset of the n900 rootfs lol Oct 27 08:44:16 got the #meego folks engaged in a bit of a FB vs. X discussion, from there was a interesting(I think?) thought: Oct 27 08:44:17 RST38h> One possibility though is to use a lightweight X API implementation, Oct 27 08:44:34 dtzWill: you're still here! Ok cool, cuz I wanted you to see that :) Oct 27 08:44:52 i'd see it anyway, if you mention me anyway :) Oct 27 08:44:57 just tomorrow O:). Oct 27 08:45:17 nah, maybe we should just keep the whole n900fs and virtualize it. n900 INSIDE WebOS! Oct 27 08:45:53 well if we ran X in a card (the x in preware that we've done already, that only broke b/c no one's cared ot fix it) then we could do that Oct 27 08:45:57 an n900 card Oct 27 08:45:58 :D Oct 27 08:46:19 ;^) Oct 27 08:46:27 oops, didn't finish the quote above, "compiled as a library (rather than a server)" Oct 27 08:46:56 yeah, i imagined that's what was meant. well if so we'l have to draft those who know more about the x api :D Oct 27 08:47:19 hmm.. wow, how the project has shifted! Oct 27 08:48:04 I guess there could be 2 projects: 1) Identify Meego apps that don't use X (no X Oct 27 08:48:07 or hildon or gtk or Qt) Oct 27 08:48:25 and/or 2) X Library/server Oct 27 08:48:57 good to know I wasn't the reason you weren't sleeping early tho Oct 27 08:49:20 damn I really want to be to bed ~10p, but think ~1a sounds reasonable. gah i've failled on all levels :) Oct 27 08:49:38 so ima go Oct 27 08:49:42 hah kk cya. Oct 27 08:49:46 it's almost 4am here :( Oct 27 08:49:58 good luck with that mtg! *duck* Oct 27 08:50:01 hahahaha Oct 27 08:50:02 kk cya :D Oct 27 13:55:40 For anyone with a Pixi, there's a testing feed version of UberKernel/Pixi which runs at 768MHz available. Oct 27 15:03:39 rwhitby: morning Oct 27 17:37:27 i just got 60 freaking grand from palm!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oct 27 17:38:34 what? Oct 27 17:38:45 was your app on the hot apps list or whatever? Oct 27 17:38:57 yeah Oct 27 17:39:10 sorry, not to freak.....but bad day just got hella better hahahahahaha Oct 27 17:39:13 :[ Oct 27 17:39:16 * dtzWill gets a grip Oct 27 17:40:27 no, congratulations ;) Oct 27 17:51:12 dtzWill, dont spend it all on hookers and blow Oct 27 17:52:00 I disagree, spend it all on hookers and blow Oct 27 17:53:27 rwhitby: do you think Palm rejecting the SFR serial, that it's just an issue with Palm not having posted the Doctor for 2.0 yet? Oct 27 17:54:57 SineOtter: rwhitby is asleep Oct 27 17:55:03 silly australians Oct 27 17:55:03 durp durp Oct 27 17:55:33 I'm used to dealing with Europe and the whole couple hours ahead, not almost a full day :p Oct 27 18:01:00 jhojho: how has the 768mhz overclock point proven for stability? is there a chance of seeing 800 end up in Warthog? Oct 27 18:01:26 its stable as far as im concerned Oct 27 18:01:40 been running it for a while now. Oct 27 18:02:16 just released warthog-pixi-124 which includes the changes made by rwhitby for the latest UK pixi kernel Oct 27 18:03:03 the Xbox 360 USB driver changes and the support for TrueCrypt, yeah? Oct 27 18:03:23 and yeah, I've not seen any problems with 768. Mostly just curious if 800 will make a return Oct 27 18:05:00 for a fee it will Oct 27 18:05:03 =D Oct 27 18:05:23 Payable to me Oct 27 18:05:25 or cash Oct 27 18:05:35 just kidding (well, you can donate but not required) Oct 27 18:05:46 at some point. Oct 27 18:05:59 Being a broke college student makes donating hard ;_; Oct 27 18:06:12 I think my checking account has like 8$ in it right now for the next week! D:< Oct 27 18:06:12 WELCOME TO MY WORLD Oct 27 18:07:06 * SineOtter gives halfhalo a high five. Oct 27 18:08:49 Heh... I have nothing in my account I can send Oct 27 18:10:33 can I join the "broke college student" club? Oct 27 18:10:49 theres a 20 dollar admission fee Oct 27 18:11:05 I don't have $20 Oct 27 18:11:26 well then Oct 27 18:11:33 Good day sir Oct 27 18:11:56 then rub your head while while patting your stomach and going "awwwww yeah" a lot and maybe, just maybe, something can be worked out Oct 27 18:12:05 I SAID GOOD DAY! Oct 27 18:12:17 :p Oct 27 18:12:27 It isn't a good day! IT'S A WINDY DAY. Oct 27 18:12:32 Maybe sitting outside wasn't the best idea. Oct 27 18:13:43 I've been poking Palm URLs trying to find if the 2.0 doctor is up, and I've got to say, this link REALLY confuses me. https://cdn.downloads.palm.com/sdkdownloads/webOSDoctors-1.4.5/Palm-webOS-Doctor_webOS-Sprint-Pixie_pixie_sprint.jar Oct 27 18:14:04 It makes no sense. There's no Pre doctors I can find, and no other carrier's Pixi doctors. Oct 27 18:14:32 But the Sprint one is there. Not to mention it's using a weird webOS doctor file naming scheme. Oct 27 18:15:33 SineOtter: stop making false claims of poverty! Oct 27 18:15:41 we totally know you've got a solid gold toilet seat Oct 27 18:17:18 the toilet seat actually disconnected from the toilet and I'm not even sure how :C both pins snapped off at the same time! Oct 27 18:32:46 SineOtter: it's gooooold! sell it for beer money ;) Oct 27 18:33:06 Ahaha. I wish. :c Oct 27 18:34:12 BevMo sometimes has MYSTERY BEER BOXES that are amazing. 16$ for 24 random bottles, and lots of times you end up with 4 or 5 bottles of stuff that would have been 3$ by itself. More people need to break bottles and split up six packs! Oct 27 19:37:19 howdy! Oct 27 19:43:53 hey Chuq! Back from vacay I take it Oct 27 20:23:10 oil: you goin to Dev Day, or is it still in the air? Oct 27 20:23:47 yeah, im all booked Oct 27 20:24:44 oil: meaning the donations came through? Awesome! Oct 27 20:24:48 yeah Oct 27 20:27:52 * ajay wishes he could say he's giving up paypal, but I need an alternative! :( Oct 27 20:31:07 awesome! Oct 27 20:34:22 alright, called eBay, and me making my donation via my phone was the cause for all this shenanigans. maybe they hate webOS? Oct 27 20:34:54 amazon and google supposedly have alternatives Oct 27 20:35:28 but they're not international Oct 27 20:35:43 (at least amazon isn't, haven't looked at google much) Oct 27 20:46:45 dtzWill: you didn't tell me you were the X man last night! I mentioned you in a thread on the developer forums :) Oct 27 20:47:13 are mame and dosbox working on webOS? Oct 27 21:34:46 Hey all Oct 27 21:35:33 DSeese: howdy! Oct 27 21:36:03 I'm thinking about developing an app and I'm looking for some pointers on where to start looking Oct 27 21:39:39 DSeese: Palm has some alright stuff on developer.palm.com I assume you've been there? Oct 27 21:40:17 Not yet. I figured I'd come here first since internals has done so much. Oct 27 21:40:40 DSeese: I haven't been finding information quite centralized enough for my needs. Oct 27 21:46:55 DSeese: I definitely started with the widk Oct 27 21:47:32 what's the widk? Oct 27 21:48:27 DSeese: It's WebOS Internals dev env. Oh its for Linux, I just realized i don't even know your dev platform :) Oct 27 21:49:02 I'm going to install Ubuntu 10.10 on my netbook and use that for my dev platform. Oct 27 21:50:10 you should check that it works on your netbook first Oct 27 21:50:19 I updated an old computer running 10.04 to 10.10 Oct 27 21:50:25 it did not like the graphics card at all Oct 27 21:50:33 had to switch the graphics card to even use 10.10 Oct 27 21:52:29 rsanchez_: I'm having a problem with my netbook's wifi post-10.10 (granted it was a known issue per the release notes) Oct 27 21:53:29 DSeese: Yeah then you'll want to look up the widk pages (just search for that). And there's a precompiled version on palm's dev forums Oct 27 21:53:30 I wish I had tested before updating Oct 27 21:53:38 always forget... Oct 27 21:53:51 I also wish they had an easy way to downgrade if you have any problems Oct 27 21:55:35 ajay: that's on developer.palm.com? Oct 27 21:57:32 DSeese: ? Oct 27 21:57:57