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Oct 30 03:00:49 <rsanchez1> no
Oct 30 03:03:51 <rwhitby> rsanchez1: number of launcher pages is stored in your palm profile
Oct 30 03:04:05 <rwhitby> the patch just lets you add and remove them
Oct 30 03:04:30 <rsanchez1> hmm, but I lost one page with the doctoring
Oct 30 03:05:16 <rwhitby> that means your palm profile backup was not in sync with your device
Oct 30 03:05:29 <rwhitby> did you do a Palm backup before doctoring?
Oct 30 03:06:48 <rsanchez1> no
Oct 30 03:06:49 <rsanchez1> darn
Oct 30 03:07:06 <rsanchez1> did save/restore, backup up usb, then doctored
Oct 30 03:07:12 <rsanchez1> forgot about palm backup
Oct 30 03:07:27 <cryptk> rsanchez1, do you have an initial run pre?
Oct 30 03:07:34 <cryptk> as in one of the first batch to be made?
Oct 30 03:07:45 <rsanchez1> no I got mine a couple of weeks ago
Oct 30 03:07:51 <rsanchez1> it should be new
Oct 30 03:07:52 <cryptk> if so, those had issues with the battery moving if the screen was closed a little too hard
Oct 30 03:07:59 <cryptk> hrm, it shouldn't have that issue then
Oct 30 03:08:13 <rsanchez1> of course I don't know how long it's been sitting on the shelf...
Oct 30 03:08:17 <cryptk> I would just take it in for a replacement
Oct 30 03:08:39 <cryptk> but be sure that you can replicate the problem reliably enough that you can show it to the sprint rep, otherwise they won't replace it
Oct 30 03:08:55 <rsanchez1> every time I close the slider, the phone shuts down
Oct 30 03:09:00 <rsanchez1> pretty reliably
Oct 30 03:09:21 <cryptk> I recently had to have my phone replaced because the slider kept popping apart in my pocket (making it spin all the way around) but I couldn't get it to pop off in the store the first time I brought it in so they refused to replace it
Oct 30 03:09:29 <cryptk> great, you shyould have no problems then
Oct 30 03:09:47 <rsanchez1> :( is it a problem that I did not get insurance?
Oct 30 03:18:07 <rsanchez1> I hope not
Oct 30 03:20:22 <bpadalino> all you can do is hope
Oct 30 03:20:49 <rsanchez1> that's not what I wanted to hear lol
Oct 30 03:21:10 <rsanchez1> I don't know why it's doing this, but I think it's something that can be fixed
Oct 30 03:21:15 <bpadalino> everything will be fine and they will pay you $1M
Oct 30 03:21:30 <rsanchez1> that's not what I wanted to hear either ha!
Oct 30 03:21:31 <bpadalino> every time you slide it shut it turns off completely ?
Oct 30 03:21:36 <rsanchez1> yep
Oct 30 03:21:42 <bpadalino> is this a new phone ?
Oct 30 03:21:46 <rsanchez1> then I have to wait for it to boot
Oct 30 03:21:52 <rsanchez1> it's about a month old
Oct 30 03:21:57 <bpadalino> interesting
Oct 30 03:21:59 <rsanchez1> well from when I bought it
Oct 30 03:22:09 <bpadalino> did you buy it used ?
Oct 30 03:22:09 <rsanchez1> this just happened suddenly too
Oct 30 03:22:14 <rsanchez1> first the keyboard stops working
Oct 30 03:22:32 <rsanchez1> I'm trusting that they sold me a new phone
Oct 30 03:22:34 <rsanchez1> I bought it from the Sprint store in original casing and everything
Oct 30 03:22:42 <rsanchez1> so first the keyboard stops working then the phone shuts down
Oct 30 03:22:53 <rsanchez1> then I had to orange+sym+power to restart
Oct 30 03:23:03 <rsanchez1> keyboard works but if you close it phone shuts down
Oct 30 03:23:13 <rsanchez1> I thought doctoring might fix but no cigar
Oct 30 03:23:20 <bpadalino> back when they first came out, the pre's battery was a little too loose .. so people put a little paper shim inside to keep ti taut
Oct 30 03:23:46 <bpadalino> when people would slide the phone shut, the battery connection would break momentarily and the phone would shut off
Oct 30 03:24:26 <rsanchez1> so would this paper go between the case and the battery or the battery and the phone?
Oct 30 03:24:40 * oil had to go macgyver on his battery
Oct 30 03:24:56 <oil> it goes up where the battery pull tab is
Oct 30 03:25:09 <phil_bw> man I hear ya on the jimmy riggin
Oct 30 03:25:10 <oil> to push it down on the contacts
Oct 30 03:25:25 <phil_bw> have the oh-so-reliable rubber band power button myself
Oct 30 03:25:53 * oil never uses power button
Oct 30 03:26:13 * phil_bw rarely has the keyboard open
Oct 30 03:26:29 <ka6sox> it has a power button?
Oct 30 03:27:03 <ka6sox> the only power button I use is pulling the battery when a kernel blows up.
Oct 30 03:27:54 * halfhalo sold his power button
Oct 30 03:28:20 * phil_bw feels like a lame power button user now... :(
Oct 30 03:29:36 <rsanchez1> gonna try the paper thing
Oct 30 03:29:45 <rsanchez1> any little strip of paper will do right?
Oct 30 03:30:15 <phil_bw> fold the paper a few times to thicken it up while still allowing the door to close
Oct 30 03:30:53 <rsanchez1> would this be recommended as a permanent solution, or should I still take it in for replacement?
Oct 30 03:31:09 <phil_bw> depends on how they treat ya
Oct 30 03:31:14 <ka6sox> if the paper fixes it then thats permanent enough for me :D
Oct 30 03:31:25 <Loudergood> that's what I did
Oct 30 03:31:27 <phil_bw> Sprint told me it'd be 5 hours to fix my power button
Oct 30 03:31:35 <phil_bw> so I went home and found a rubber band
Oct 30 03:32:11 <Loudergood> also I bent the contact pins up so they'd contact the touchstone back better and my non-working touchstone suddenly works like a charm
Oct 30 03:33:48 <rsanchez1> they better have gotten their act together with the pre 2
Oct 30 03:33:59 <Loudergood> heh, I have a pre plus
Oct 30 03:34:03 <rsanchez1> I personally thought people were exagerrating all the hardware problems with the pre but now I get this after one month
Oct 30 03:34:17 <Loudergood> I would hope so
Oct 30 03:35:19 * phil_bw wanders off
Oct 30 03:45:49 <rsanchez1> time to see if the low-tech solution works
Oct 30 03:46:08 <rsanchez1> !!!
Oct 30 03:46:10 <rsanchez1> nope
Oct 30 03:46:49 <egaudet> slide shut very slowly and carefully :P
Oct 30 03:46:53 <egaudet> and get it replaced
Oct 30 03:47:23 <rsanchez1> :( I wanted to be one of those people who never needed a replacement
Oct 30 03:47:25 <rsanchez1> oh well
Oct 30 03:48:02 <egaudet> use more paper
Oct 30 03:48:20 <rsanchez1> it hardly fits already
Oct 30 04:02:15 <rsanchez1> this is so frustrating
Oct 30 04:02:27 <rsanchez1> slide it close, wait 2 or 3 seconds, boom it's gone
Oct 30 04:22:24 <mrinehart93> Who here is most likely the most knowledgeable person in regards to the WebOS Kernel? I'm mrinehart93 from XDA-Developers.com, and I need some advice/information on porting WebOS to the HTC Hero.
Oct 30 04:23:14 <ka6sox> mrinehart93, uNiXpSyChO is the one...but its too late :D
Oct 30 04:23:22 <ka6sox> (as in late tonight)
Oct 30 04:23:43 <mrinehart93> Yes, I can see :D I was about to get to bed myself, but I couldn't resist asking this.
Oct 30 04:23:55 <mrinehart93> Is there anyway I can contact him outside of IRC? Email perhaps?
Oct 30 04:28:10 <ka6sox> best to hang out here if you have a client.
Oct 30 04:28:48 <ka6sox> or you could attempt to PM him with your contact information and let him know why?
Oct 30 04:30:34 <egaudet> others may have answers too if you ask aloud someone may chime it when they read it
Oct 30 04:30:41 <egaudet> if you had specific question
Oct 30 04:37:12 <mrinehart93> Is there a specific forum I can contact him on? A Webos-internals forum?
Oct 30 04:37:36 <ka6sox> hmmm...dunno anymore.
Oct 30 14:11:11 <rsanchez1> hello
Oct 30 14:13:06 <rsanchez1> is anyone else having problems with preware?
Oct 30 14:16:28 <rsanchez1> it tells me the service is not running
Oct 30 14:16:50 <rsanchez1> restarting preware and restarting the phone did not help
Oct 30 14:16:59 <aGaTHoS> im checking now
Oct 30 14:17:14 <aGaTHoS> and is stalled at downloading feeds information
Oct 30 14:18:12 <rsanchez1> it gives me that error whether I tell it to update feeds or not
Oct 30 14:27:29 <rsanchez1> lol is wikipedia down
Oct 30 14:31:59 <rsanchez1> the world's brain is gone
Oct 30 16:06:45 <zap> Hello! I need the default content of /etc/powervr.ini, anybody can help?
Oct 30 16:09:15 <bpadalino> could you extract it from a rootfs you pull apart of a doctor jar ?
Oct 30 16:09:42 <zap> well, to be honest, I'm not a Palm Pre person :]
Oct 30 16:09:50 <zap> I need it for other device
Oct 30 16:10:06 <bpadalino> oh ..
Oct 30 16:10:11 <bpadalino> well .. you can still do that
Oct 30 16:10:19 <zap> well, I don't even know what a doctor jar is
Oct 30 16:10:25 <bpadalino> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions
Oct 30 16:10:31 <bpadalino> do you know what a jar file is ?
Oct 30 16:10:35 <zap> yep
Oct 30 16:10:44 <zap> okay, will try find out, thank you for directions
Oct 30 16:10:49 <bpadalino> good luck
Oct 30 16:11:25 <zap> the rootfs is distributed in a jar?
Oct 30 16:11:51 <zap> the webOS ROM link on the page you gave me is broken
Oct 30 16:13:16 <bpadalino> version 1.4.5 - sprint pre ..
Oct 30 16:13:18 <bpadalino> works for me
Oct 30 16:13:28 <bpadalino> and yes, there is a tgz of the rootfs in there
Oct 30 16:22:10 <zap> hmm, there is no powervr.ini by default...
Oct 30 16:24:59 <bpadalino> oh noes!
Oct 30 16:25:24 <bpadalino> what is the ini supposed to contain ?
Oct 30 16:26:17 <tmzt> zap: the pvr driver was released for ubuntu and meego I think
Oct 30 16:26:26 <tmzt> it's now avaiable to download
Oct 30 16:26:35 <zap> yes, but it's undocumented
Oct 30 16:26:50 <tmzt> what are you trying to do?
Oct 30 16:27:06 <zap> I'm trying to launch a particular app on N900
Oct 30 16:27:33 <zap> N900 uses some different opengl ES defaults, thus the graphics is a bit messed up
Oct 30 16:28:13 <zap> thus I'm looking either for default powervr.ini state on Palm, or some docs on powervr.ini
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