**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 31 02:59:58 2010 Oct 31 06:46:30 so.. does anyone have a hold of a pre 2 yet Oct 31 06:50:16 people in france do Oct 31 06:50:34 yeah, but its france Oct 31 06:50:37 it doesnt count Oct 31 07:08:27 heh Oct 31 09:16:36 builds a complete compilation environment automatically which can compile SDL and openGLES apps for webOS Oct 31 09:16:46 can user scratchbox 1? Oct 31 09:16:49 hello all Oct 31 09:18:55 WIDK uses scratchbox 2 Oct 31 09:20:49 it seems can't compile qt apps under scratchbox 2 Oct 31 09:26:08 ok Oct 31 16:42:09 finding a few different sets of the same instructions to create a logical volume for my debian partition (rather than contain it in a file and loop mount it), I live-resized my /media/internal, created another logical volume, and tried to copy everything off /media/internal to my new logical volume, so I could reformat it and copy everything back Oct 31 16:43:18 but I'm thinking its probably bad to live-resize a FAT volume, then try to read from it, and I'm guessing thats where all these 'read error: Input/output error' s are coming from when trying to copy from the newly resized (but not re-formatted) partition Oct 31 16:43:57 though none of the sets of instructions mention any sort of possibly of data corruption when doing this (I have a backup of /media/internal off my device) Oct 31 16:47:40 okay, reading some more docs, here's a question: what does webos need to find in my /media/internal to boot properly? if it were to mount a completley empty /media/internal upon boot, are there things that absolutely need to be found for it to get to a usable state (where I could then restore from my backup) Oct 31 18:01:56 * sammy found the meta-doctor and used that to create his ext3 partition, instead. Oct 31 19:04:44 well, I finally narrowed it down. either something govnah is doing or the uberkernel v119 is causing libpurpleadapter to sig 11 with a nullpointerreference in transportcallback. I dont have any patches installed, just doctored, installed lumberjack, terminal, save/restore and govnah Oct 31 19:24:28 lets try again with just preware, lumberjack and uberkernel... when aim and gtalk are both enabled, yup. Oct 31 19:37:45 oh look now it happens after I remove uberkernel and restart Oct 31 19:54:47 huh? Oct 31 20:45:40 hm, interestingly after removing PalmDatabase.db3 and readding all acounts and contacts and calendars, the size went down from 3Mb to <1Mb. Oct 31 21:15:35 whenever there's my aim and gtalk account on my pre (as opposed to only one or the other), they connect, libpurpleadapter crashes with a nullpointerexception, and they both disconnect. Oct 31 21:21:19 and whats freaky is that, now I only have preware, jumberjack, zip and unzip installed, and the problem persists Oct 31 21:22:40 I just doctored the phone and wiped out my /media/internal volume, too. Oct 31 21:32:58 Is there a HowTo on how to patch and compile Preware? Oct 31 21:33:44 something has been uploading data from my phone for hours now and I want it to stop Oct 31 21:33:53 but I can't find out what it is Oct 31 21:36:13 sniff it Oct 31 21:36:21 tcpdump should tell you Oct 31 21:39:55 jhojho, good idea about sniffing it Oct 31 21:41:31 installing tcpdump now Oct 31 21:42:04 now if only tcpdump didn't have the least intuitive commands ever (other than sendmail) Oct 31 21:49:24 jacques! Oct 31 21:49:40 howdy ka6sox :-D Oct 31 21:50:18 well it finally stopped uploading - not sure which thing I disabled did it :- Nov 01 00:04:45 suppeople Nov 01 00:07:28 anyone here thing the new pre 2 from verizon can or will beable to flash it to sprint? Nov 01 00:14:05 daltonj82, why would there be Doctors for Sprint unless they had the phone? Nov 01 00:15:23 what? Nov 01 00:16:09 how would you flash it to Sprint from Verizon without a Sprint Doctor? Nov 01 00:18:04 idk that's why I'm asking if there could be a way... I was thinking maybe with qpsd and using my old palms I'd just a thought idk Nov 01 00:19:01 unless sprint has webos2.0 out when the pre2 comes to America...which I kind of doubt. Nov 01 00:21:01 so palm devices can't be flashed like android? Nov 01 00:21:24 do you have one? Nov 01 00:21:54 android yes and a pre. Nov 01 00:21:59 huh? Nov 01 00:22:19 first you have to make the radio work, which Sprint still blocks Verizon meids I assume Nov 01 00:22:28 that parts the same as any qualcomm chip Nov 01 00:22:30 I flashed my andoid phone from verizon to sprint as I mentioned.. Nov 01 00:22:48 then you have to make some of the Sprint features work, such as Mobile IP Nov 01 00:22:55 you can change the meids Nov 01 00:23:01 why you need software from Sprint I don't know Nov 01 00:23:47 using a old sprint phone to use that phones meid change the newer one using qpsd Nov 01 00:32:07 webOS and the radio firmware are two completely different things. Nov 01 00:39:28 yes I know that that's why I was asking I don't know alot about webOS besides rooting and installing somestuff.. wish there was a easier way to install a different prl manually besides using a comp. and that webOS is by far more stable the android Nov 01 00:40:28 or even widgets like android.. that's my only dislikes Nov 01 00:41:45 there's a utility that talks to the radio Nov 01 00:41:49 on the Pre itself Nov 01 00:42:00 so you can access dm, you just need to write a program to do it Nov 01 00:42:04 access efs I mean Nov 01 00:43:02 hm.... interesting. is there one out already? Nov 01 00:46:48 tmzt. if you have gtalk add me if you like its daltonj82@gmail.com could b fun making that program. and if you wanna b a part just add me.. :-) Nov 01 00:47:28 I might do something with dm some time but I have other projects, I'm here or in #htc-linux Nov 01 00:48:38 ok yes my android is a htc Nov 01 00:51:41 I'll probably just leave my phone on this channel non stop since I'm using wIRC on my pre Nov 01 00:52:36 as you should Nov 01 00:52:50 lol Nov 01 00:52:58 * ka6sox beats oil to it. Nov 01 00:53:51 well this is the first time ever using irc sorry Nov 01 00:55:50 is there any little tricks to this chat client? Nov 01 00:56:16 oil should know...I'm just a n00b with it. Nov 01 00:56:25 its like any other irc client Nov 01 00:56:42 I never used irc period lol Nov 01 00:59:13 well, google is probably a good start :) Nov 01 00:59:48 google has an IRC client? dang...what will they come up with next. Nov 01 01:00:08 a web connected toaster Nov 01 01:00:13 you know what i meant lol **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 01 02:59:57 2010