**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 06 02:59:57 2010 Dec 06 03:35:38 does one really have to buy separate versions of angry birds for pre and pixi? Dec 06 03:37:23 yes Dec 06 03:37:32 and you know you will, because it is that awesome Dec 06 03:38:02 that is so lame Dec 06 03:39:00 i have yet to pay for a single app Dec 06 03:39:20 i was almost going to get angry birds till i saw i needed 2 versions Dec 06 03:39:35 oh, you will... you will Dec 06 03:42:00 then they'll come out with the festive version, which is also seperate Dec 06 03:42:23 thats not a normal update? Dec 06 03:42:26 fuck that Dec 06 03:42:32 its another app afaik Dec 06 03:42:55 like you wouldn't have people buy 3 different version of wIRC if you had the chance Dec 06 03:42:56 lol Dec 06 03:43:09 isn't it seriously like 99 cents Dec 06 03:43:20 99 too much cents! Dec 06 03:43:48 I could use that monies for taco bell! Dec 06 03:44:09 its 1.99 thank u very much Dec 06 03:44:33 two tacos! Dec 06 03:47:49 yeah, as if Angry Birds is worth twice as much as Preware Homebrew Documentation ! Dec 06 03:48:18 Well, I mean... ummm... Dec 06 03:48:42 it'll frustrate you twice as much, I'm sure :] Dec 06 03:49:40 So I reckon I've found the virtual keyboard on webOS 2.0 Dec 06 03:50:09 SineOt, so before when u said wirc 0.3 was out again for pixi i still dont understand what u mean by that Dec 06 03:50:15 when was it ever out before for pixi Dec 06 03:50:36 uh, the .1 and .2 branches have been out for the pixi for a long time Dec 06 03:50:45 it wasn't until .3 came out that it disappeared when it moved to hybrid Dec 06 03:50:57 I used .2.3 for a long ass time :I Dec 06 03:51:03 right... Dec 06 03:51:08 it was 0.2.4 that was the latest working Dec 06 03:51:15 but u said it was out AGAIN Dec 06 03:51:24 like we released 0.3.x for pixi Dec 06 03:51:25 it was gone from the feeds for pixi Dec 06 03:51:28 then took it way Dec 06 03:51:44 024 used to not show up on the pixi feeds Dec 06 03:51:48 gone or never there? Dec 06 03:51:58 it went away when 0.3.x went pre only Dec 06 03:52:11 0.2.4 for Pixi > All the updates between then disappearing > 0.3.4 or whatever is out now reappearing Dec 06 03:52:17 until rwhitby made 024 show up just for pixi, right before you figured out 034 worked on pixi Dec 06 03:52:49 hah Dec 06 03:53:14 * halfhalo blames the server Dec 06 03:54:44 * SineOt had no idea this would be so confusing :I Dec 06 03:55:43 well if 0.2.x is out for u... and then 0.3.x shows up... then u didnt need to say its out again Dec 06 03:55:46 cause it was never out before Dec 06 03:55:50 for pixi Dec 06 03:56:23 thats because no-one likes the pixi Dec 06 03:56:44 i love the pixi now that i can experience it Dec 06 03:57:09 uh, k Dec 06 03:57:39 I was just happy to see that I could finally actually use the bugfixes from the .3 branch after you kept telling me "lol no kernel patches" would mean it'd never show up on 1.4.5 :I Dec 06 04:05:30 Any updates on the frankenpre project? Dec 06 04:25:42 Hi everyone Dec 06 04:25:49 g'day NuttyBunny Dec 06 04:25:58 I just want to congratulate Rod on his new finding, Great! :D Dec 06 04:26:18 It was always there, it's just that we can't emulate the "sym" key press on the emu! Dec 06 04:26:36 roneyii gets the prize Dec 06 04:26:59 http://twitter.com/roneyii/status/11633749405999104 (exactly what I thought when I found it) Dec 06 04:28:23 Nice! It has to be buggy to be hidden Dec 06 04:28:41 Or perhaps there's another binding for the tablet :) Dec 06 04:28:51 is the keyboard a fixed size, or does it scale cleanly? Dec 06 04:28:54 it crashes luna when you open it and rotate an app Dec 06 04:28:59 in landscape it sure takes up a lot of space Dec 06 04:29:38 oil: so, that's it ;) Dec 06 04:34:21 lol Dec 06 04:34:43 alt-sym-k is probably just the devs way to test and not how it will be when "officially" released Dec 06 04:48:50 hey Dec 06 04:50:20 oil, do i add the [Virtual Keyboard] to my luna.conf or is it there? Dec 06 04:50:29 you have to add it Dec 06 04:50:53 so, does the virtual keyboard do text recognition? Dec 06 04:51:05 recognition/correction* Dec 06 04:51:20 idk, i haven't typed more then a word or two with it Dec 06 04:51:34 oil, after the [Launcher] ? Dec 06 04:51:42 * oil put it at the bottom Dec 06 04:51:53 of the file, that is Dec 06 04:52:21 sure you did... Dec 06 04:53:47 rebooting now Dec 06 05:01:03 oil, space or no space in [VirtualKeyboard]? Dec 06 05:01:15 no space Dec 06 05:01:43 k Dec 06 05:01:50 that was my issue Dec 06 05:04:51 oil, LOL! vkeyboard crashes on multi touch Dec 06 05:05:07 i never tried multitouch Dec 06 05:05:18 i had to pull battery Dec 06 05:05:20 it crashes if you open a rotating app and rotate it, too Dec 06 05:05:57 vkeyboard=buggy Dec 06 05:06:13 which is probably why it was hidden/disabled Dec 06 05:06:21 yeah Dec 06 05:06:40 but it seems like it should be doccumented Dec 06 05:07:01 It probably is, internally. :[ Dec 06 05:07:03 :] Dec 06 05:08:48 but why not tell devs about it, so they can plan on it in the future Dec 06 05:09:08 probably because it's going to be put on a device that we don't know about Dec 06 05:09:21 well, if you didn't think they were making a virtual keyboard before now, something is wrong with you Dec 06 05:09:39 that was like the first bit of major 2.0 news Dec 06 05:09:45 SineOt, oil is there a way to make an app, when you click on a text field, it auto types alt+sym+k? Dec 06 05:09:53 idk Dec 06 05:09:59 yeah I dunno Dec 06 05:10:13 you're asking a guy who only started learning JS like two months ago :] Dec 06 05:10:19 oil, i expected it, just suprised they didnt sya well your app should do this to be compatible Dec 06 05:10:46 the virtual keyboard will probably be something that gets rolled out alongside Enyo Dec 06 05:11:09 SineOt, thats better than me, im learning js now, but i am good with php and html and c Dec 06 05:11:39 I'm still sticking with my guesses on the known codenames right now :p Dec 06 05:11:54 which are? Dec 06 05:12:09 depends Dec 06 05:12:12 (the quesses) Dec 06 05:12:21 i dont think a vkb will be rolled out until they have a device that requires it Dec 06 05:12:36 hint of a PalmPad to come? Dec 06 05:12:37 its a waste of space on a pre or pixi Dec 06 05:12:50 Broadway is Pixi 2, Windsor is a slate phone, Stingray is a tablet slate , Mantaray is a larger tablet slate Dec 06 05:12:52 CES PalmPad? Dec 06 05:14:09 sizing is up for debate with Windsor, Stingray/Mantaray Dec 06 05:14:27 but my guesses are that Stingray/Mantaray will be a pair of devices Dec 06 05:14:47 they may be phones, but I'd say something more like 7" tablet and 10" tablet Dec 06 05:15:08 SineOt, wich wil be called PalmPAd? Dec 06 05:15:22 "One of the above" Dec 06 05:15:30 PalmPad is a dumb name anyways and I hope that it goes away Dec 06 05:15:56 SineOt, what name would you suggest? Dec 06 05:16:10 Anything but that Dec 06 05:16:29 WebSlate Dec 06 05:16:59 rwhitby, Skynet needs to be done by the time a PalmPad comes out :D Dec 06 05:17:05 or soon after Dec 06 05:17:15 They don't really have much of a pattern with device names so far, anyways. Pre and Pixi. Dec 06 05:17:31 I guess they could go with the P pattern. Dec 06 05:17:32 and no, im really not refering to terminator Dec 06 05:18:15 Palm Overture? P: Dec 06 05:18:18 Palm Pocket Party Dec 06 05:18:33 "Palm Final? Dec 06 05:18:39 HPad Dec 06 05:18:42 the last palm Dec 06 05:19:01 Palm Penultimate Dec 06 05:19:13 PalmPWNS Dec 06 05:19:24 palmpad has the best sound Dec 06 05:19:43 pwnipad Dec 06 05:19:50 But yeah, PalmPad is just... Dumb sounding. It's really simplistic and "the Palm PalmPad" sounds even dumber Dec 06 05:20:01 PalmBook Dec 06 05:20:08 (after playbook) Dec 06 05:20:10 Too similar to Playbook Dec 06 05:21:11 You could build off the Pre being a shortening of Prelude, and work with musical terms, but then you end up at the Pixi and go "wtf" Dec 06 05:23:35 PalmPost? Dec 06 05:24:30 Palm Panty Dec 06 05:25:10 Palm PreHP, PalmPostHP Dec 06 05:25:17 PalmPadPro Dec 06 05:25:21 PalmPAdHD Dec 06 05:27:53 SineOt, ive got it! Palm 3P(after the 3 C Dec 06 05:28:27 and the 3rd palm product with a p name Dec 06 05:28:28 palm pad is the best possible tablet name Dec 06 05:29:13 all of the poor-humour "pad" jokes have already been done for the iPad, so PalmPad is a good name. Dec 06 05:30:00 i have one final try Dec 06 05:30:06 gaaxy tab is droid Dec 06 05:30:16 Universe Pad is Palm Dec 06 05:30:17 rwhitby, you are underestimating the power of the internet in regards to bad jokes Dec 06 05:31:56 Honestly Mantaray/Stingray are better names than what will end up being the name :p Dec 06 05:32:21 code name to product name, lol Dec 06 05:32:25 got a good laugh at devdays Dec 06 05:32:26 SineOt, think of all the fish jokes that would come from that Dec 06 05:32:28 for ares and enyo Dec 06 05:33:00 oil: Palm did it basically once already, lol Dec 06 05:33:06 Pixie becoming... Pixi Dec 06 05:33:17 watch the enyo vid from devdays Dec 06 05:33:22 about the ares and enyo names Dec 06 05:33:40 oil, i saw that and LOL'ed Dec 06 06:04:39 oil: Ares "working on" Enyo stuff? Dec 06 06:04:59 hm? Dec 06 06:06:33 so, how about all webos internals apps(preware, save/restore, etc.) get a "santa" version Dec 06 06:06:45 patches welcome Dec 06 06:07:15 oil, i want PSD(photoshop documents) for the icons Dec 06 06:07:29 i do not have them Dec 06 06:07:34 Templarian may Dec 06 06:07:36 he is the icon master Dec 06 06:07:52 but i believe they're all in vector Dec 06 06:08:00 gah Dec 06 06:08:02 :( Dec 06 06:08:18 oil, xmas theme fo wirc? Dec 06 06:08:36 some hideous red and green colors Dec 06 06:08:55 PuffTheMagic, make a theme and put it in all webos internals apps Dec 06 06:08:56 :D Dec 06 06:09:14 Nah, most of those I make are not vector. Dec 06 06:12:34 * scoutcamper is off to sleep Dec 06 06:13:11 http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8897/card0.png still think this one could be used somehow. lol. Dec 06 06:13:23 lol Dec 06 06:13:35 what... is it Dec 06 06:13:39 homeless tux Dec 06 06:14:03 I made it last year for a way to get donations... but it seemed to depressing. Dec 06 06:14:22 Ahaha. Dec 06 06:14:28 I was thinking it was a barrel of blood. Dec 06 06:14:45 With a severed limb in it. :p Dec 06 06:14:57 it is Dec 06 06:15:07 he is cooking it for dinner Dec 06 06:15:09 Penguins eat people when they can't find food. Dec 06 06:16:14 Remind me tomorrow and I think of making santa version. Dec 06 06:16:24 lol Dec 06 14:00:29 from time to time novacomd is eating up 50% of my dual core cpu without a PalmPre attached. Do sombody else have the same effect? Dec 06 15:13:02 never seen that hape_ Dec 06 15:34:06 Rick_work: thanks for the info. Dec 06 15:37:48 hey anyone herw Dec 06 15:41:41 anyone know of a c or cpp compiler for webos Dec 06 15:42:02 gcc Dec 06 15:42:54 and where can I get that Dec 06 15:43:02 or is it on the phone already Dec 06 15:43:38 u need to setup a cross compiler go to webos-internals.org and start there Dec 06 15:44:13 ok Dec 06 17:16:29 dest I'm bak Dec 06 17:16:42 would you say it be wise to use the uberkern Dec 06 17:18:27 msd18: were you? or as an attempt to fix crashing you mean? Dec 06 17:18:44 ya as an attempt to fix the crashing Dec 06 17:20:02 cuse I'm installing it now Dec 06 17:20:25 yeah, it's worth a shot Dec 06 17:21:57 ok hey dest are you good at linux programming Dec 06 17:22:26 brb reboot answer that when I return Dec 06 17:31:10 back Dec 06 17:31:15 with uber kern Dec 06 17:42:41 hey dest Dec 06 17:47:56 dest Dec 06 17:48:07 I resized to 200M and still same error Dec 06 17:48:36 and df -h says can not read tables of mounted file system this time Dec 06 17:49:06 is it possible /var/cache/apt/archives is readonly Dec 06 18:08:22 are you chroot'd with dev mounted Dec 06 21:32:23 Rick_work: ping Dec 06 21:32:33 pong Dec 06 21:32:50 you got my shipping address? Dec 06 21:33:24 I do but I don't have your device ready. Sorry sorry, but life has intervenened.... Dec 06 21:42:02 Rick_work: no problem Dec 06 21:42:05 so I am off Dec 06 21:42:06 gn8 Dec 06 21:48:41 hey ppl Dec 06 22:50:05 hey all =) Dec 06 23:24:01 hey ppl Dec 06 23:24:21 can anyone get me a ebook off torrents Dec 06 23:25:58 msd18: what is the license on the ebook? Dec 06 23:26:31 lol wat license I just need a copy of the book art of intrustion by kevin mitnick Dec 06 23:26:52 msd18: read the /topic of this channel Dec 06 23:26:58 dont feed the troll Dec 06 23:27:15 he's the guy who was running wirc in cgywin xD Dec 06 23:27:26 good times... Dec 06 23:27:29 oil shut ur mouth Dec 06 23:27:31 lol Dec 06 23:27:41 * halfhalo gets the popcorn Dec 06 23:27:58 that's why I've been doing development on my phone right cuse I'm a troll Dec 06 23:28:11 and wanted me to help develop a botnet webos app :p Dec 06 23:28:19 hehehe... Dec 06 23:28:28 rofl wat it be an epic time Dec 06 23:28:44 You are the weakest Link. Goodbuy. Dec 06 23:28:56 weakest link you say? Dec 06 23:29:02 I'm apart of soldierx Dec 06 23:29:06 that was... pretty lame, halfhalo :/ Dec 06 23:29:27 I'm a hacker and programmer Dec 06 23:29:36 * halfhalo lacks the ability to kick for timing Dec 06 23:29:43 lol Dec 06 23:29:53 anyways next Dec 06 23:30:00 == mode/#webos-internals [+o rwhitby] by ChanServ Dec 06 23:30:01 oohhh Dec 06 23:30:31 whos that Dec 06 23:30:35 timing is everathang Dec 06 23:30:58 spelling goodbye correctly helps, too Dec 06 23:31:04 lol Dec 06 23:31:04 * halfhalo laughs at the hacker statement though Dec 06 23:31:10 meh Dec 06 23:31:18 lol Dec 06 23:31:31 hav you heard about the geeksqauds mri disk being leaded Dec 06 23:31:31 leaked Dec 06 23:31:33 that was our doing Dec 06 23:31:57 oh man sweet geeksquad disks Dec 06 23:32:03 !!! Dec 06 23:32:04 yawn. Who cares? Dec 06 23:32:09 I R L33T H4Ck3R Dec 06 23:32:15 rofl Dec 06 23:32:22 * halfhalo kicks himself for saying that Dec 06 23:32:28 lol Dec 06 23:32:29 o.o Dec 06 23:32:43 honestly, if we haven't established our reputation as serious white-hats by now, I don't know what else we could have done. Dec 06 23:32:49 brb Dec 06 23:33:18 Rick_work: its just a troll Dec 06 23:33:24 I know. Dec 06 23:33:29 I aint no troll -.- Dec 06 23:33:31 trolls are fun! Dec 06 23:33:53 Sometimes if you chat with trolls long enough, the sun comes out and they turn to stone. :-) Dec 06 23:34:10 lol Dec 06 23:34:12 Thats when you sell them to unsuspecting tourists Dec 06 23:34:21 the sun never shines into his moms basement though Dec 06 23:37:22 Mirrors, we needs lots and lots of mirrors.... Dec 06 23:37:43 * halfhalo gets the crowbar and heads to the nearest craftstore Dec 06 23:38:19 the crowbars for.. um... muggers! Dec 06 23:39:01 those crafty muggers that hang out inside craft shops! Yeah! Thats it! Dec 06 23:39:21 aww Dec 06 23:39:58 lol, infobot is +v Dec 06 23:40:13 for banning bot style! Dec 06 23:40:52 * halfhalo is waiting for email back from arm Dec 06 23:42:17 new cpus=fancyness Dec 06 23:45:24 ruh roh Dec 06 23:46:10 * oilsworkn hides from infoboty Dec 06 23:46:15 ~botsnack Dec 06 23:46:17 oilsworkn: thanks Dec 06 23:46:31 ~botsmack Dec 06 23:46:32 OWW! Dec 06 23:46:35 (gotta keep him ahppy) Dec 06 23:46:46 hehehe Dec 06 23:47:16 * halfhalo waits for infobot to snap and ban him Dec 06 23:54:32 just be worried if he /nick skynet Dec 06 23:54:43 hah Dec 07 00:04:26 fight the powa! Dec 07 00:26:57 back whos alive here lol Dec 07 00:28:10 has 'lol' become punctuation now? Dec 07 00:28:28 only for the 'l33t h4ck3rs' Dec 07 00:29:04 * rwhitby wonders if there is a special keyboard you can buy with 'lol' instead of the '.' key. Dec 07 00:30:27 wouldn't put it past someone Dec 07 00:47:13 yes Dec 07 00:48:29 Lol Dec 07 00:49:15 Oh! Th optimus kb! Dec 07 00:50:14 * halfhalo is taking a final in a class where he could fail the final and still get an a Dec 07 00:52:16 halfhalo: Cool! Turn up drunk, urinate on the exam paper and be like 'Ah'm...ah'm zssooo kewl rite... am zsooo kewl mah pee is wortha.. wortha... zomg ahm hungry.. yoor mah bestestestsh pal.... wortha Aaaaa **THUD**' Dec 07 00:52:45 Its quicker to do the final Dec 07 00:54:42 halfhalo: but not as funny a story for the grandkids Dec 07 00:55:08 you have to get another student to get the profs face on video Dec 07 00:55:23 I did get an A in physics while I had about 2 pints of brandy in me Dec 07 00:55:52 I even wrote something about alcohol making you better at physics bendy logic on the top of the page Dec 07 00:57:15 And, unfortunately, spent half the allotted time trying to crawl into the cupboard of weights and springs while going 'Meep!' Dec 07 00:57:24 but my grandkids will think I'm awesome :P Dec 07 01:34:50 oil, infobot should be renamed skynet, just because Dec 07 01:35:01 sounds like a bad idea Dec 07 01:35:19 we should name it john conner Dec 07 01:35:22 just to throw it off Dec 07 01:35:27 (and maybe itl try to kill itself) Dec 07 01:35:30 lol Dec 07 01:36:11 ~skynet Dec 07 01:36:11 extra, extra, read all about it, skynet is me Dec 07 01:36:31 ~skynet Dec 07 01:36:31 skynet is probably infobot Dec 07 01:36:39 better :D Dec 07 02:01:55 ~oil Dec 07 02:01:55 [oil] the best! Dec 07 02:02:24 srsly Dec 07 02:03:17 don't lie Dec 07 02:03:27 infobot never lies Dec 07 02:03:38 it just did! Dec 07 02:03:46 ~skynet Dec 07 02:03:47 somebody said skynet was infobot Dec 07 02:03:51 ~halfhalo Dec 07 02:03:52 i guess halfhalo is a web programmer specializing in ruby on rails and node.js server side applications, and also is dabbling in sysadmin work as well. He is also insane in the membrane, and drives way to fast on the streets. four-eights-halo. Dec 07 02:04:02 damn straight skippy Dec 07 02:04:13 ~botsnack Dec 07 02:04:13 scoutcamper: aw, gee Dec 07 02:04:31 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dec 07 02:05:19 * halfhalo gets to deal with the pain that is updating android after he eats Dec 07 02:06:10 traitor Dec 07 02:06:17 yup Dec 07 02:06:27 but I can at least make class using the epic at my house Dec 07 02:06:28 barely Dec 07 02:07:08 the epic Dec 07 02:07:10 grrr Dec 07 02:07:13 i burn the epic Dec 07 02:07:18 its not epic Dec 07 02:07:21 /me likes the hardware hates the software Dec 07 02:07:52 * SineOt ponders selling text books back to amazon. Dec 07 02:09:23 An 8gb kit would be awesome. D: Dec 07 02:30:01 the v-keyboard was so buggy i had to disable it Dec 07 02:30:14 it froze the phone when typing in an email Dec 07 02:30:39 it freezes whenever you rotate an app while its open, too Dec 07 02:30:55 or multi touch Dec 07 02:32:01 yeah, never tried that Dec 07 02:37:52 it freezes when you look at it wrong! Dec 07 02:38:08 posibly, if there was a front facing camera Dec 07 02:42:15 oil: so oil, it does or doesn't show up when you do the "wave-launch" gesture? Dec 07 02:43:32 it does Dec 07 02:43:48 and does the "bonk-bonk" sound Dec 07 02:43:55 * rwhitby has used it a number of times in the last day Dec 07 02:43:55 How did no one notice it until yesterday Dec 07 02:43:55 that happens when popups show up Dec 07 02:44:19 Probably because it has to be enabled OH YEAH FFF Dec 07 02:44:28 * SineOt puts his head in a box, sits in the corner Dec 07 02:44:30 * halfhalo has used it in his imagination! Dec 07 02:58:36 ok I have installed the warthog kernel I'm stll green now how do I access the controls on govnah **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 07 02:59:58 2010