**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 13 02:59:58 2010 Dec 13 03:41:09 NuttyBunny: hey there Dec 13 03:46:33 destinal hey.. I'm operating on my Pre (technically right now should be my gf's Pre)... she managed to drop coffee on the speaker, and now it almost doesn't make any sound... 6 hours after I doctored it and gave it to her... Dec 13 03:48:23 NuttyBunny: ouch! Dec 13 03:48:46 NuttyBunny: I don't know what kind of speaker it is but I imagine it could be replaced Dec 13 03:54:30 Yeah, me too... I've already taken it apart (and just one day after ending the warranty...)... I've sprayed the speaker with isoprophyl alcohol, I've let it dry, and I'm now trying to make a test call... Dec 13 03:54:49 booting now... Dec 13 04:34:55 hi all - i'm hopelessly lost... Dec 13 04:35:32 added the test feedto preware and dl'd then installed freetether Dec 13 04:35:45 dl'd usbnet right clicked it and installed it Dec 13 04:36:06 restarted bothe pre plus & PC (running XP Sp3) Dec 13 04:36:38 now MHS is on and PC & PS3 are connected but can't connect to the net... Dec 13 04:36:49 everyone is AFK I'll bet... Dec 13 04:38:39 fml... Dec 13 04:40:39 * halfhalo bets NeedTetherHelp waits a while someone will answer him Dec 13 04:41:06 lol I'll wait til the sun rises Dec 13 04:41:23 the sun never goes down on the internet Dec 13 04:41:30 or does it never rise? Dec 13 04:41:44 i'm on my GFs netbook in a window while she sleeps so i can fix this problem Dec 13 04:41:50 never rises Dec 13 04:41:53 its internals, it all depends on how fast the pre's are overclocked Dec 13 04:42:08 i'm sorry to hear about your problem of never rising with your girlfriend sleeping :( Dec 13 04:42:11 this sounds terrible Dec 13 04:42:25 lol arse Dec 13 04:42:27 lol Dec 13 04:42:35 hehehe.... Dec 13 04:43:10 so yins interested in helping this sod fix his pre plus Dec 13 04:43:11 ?? Dec 13 04:43:13 i'm prepared Dec 13 04:43:25 what carrier Dec 13 04:43:30 verizon Dec 13 04:43:51 then why did you install freetether and usbnet when MHS is free... Dec 13 04:44:19 it's free til you hit 5gb.... Dec 13 04:44:27 and i get unlimited data - so why pay anything more than the $209 a month I do Dec 13 04:44:37 freetether doesn't help with the 5GB limit, tho Dec 13 04:45:26 if you manage to use more than 5GB of data on your phone anyways your still going to be yelled at by verizon Dec 13 04:45:27 maybe i wrongly assumed that you could connect with your pre via usb cable or blue tooth to use the Palm's data plan instead of MHS Dec 13 04:46:10 I use on average just uner 5GB a month on MHS and about 2.5 GB on data Dec 13 04:46:20 *under Dec 13 04:46:53 I am a DJ... every show I DL at least 250 MB Dec 13 04:48:00 Couldn't you just completely cut that out by just... Having it before the show? Dec 13 04:49:22 lol Sine... I have 9 TB of music and I never always have what people request... Dec 13 04:50:02 preware won't work Dec 13 04:50:15 descriptive Dec 13 04:50:27 Verizon doesn't care how or what downloads the data, and freetether doesn't remove any limitations of that. It just enables the use of MHS as a WiFi AP. Dec 13 04:50:39 250 mb is only 20-30 songs at high quality bit-rate Dec 13 04:51:23 Even if you connect via Bluetooth or USB networking, you're still using your dataplan. Dec 13 04:52:07 webfellow: the data downloaded by computers/ps3/what have you via Mobile Hot Spot is tracked separately and billed separately than the data used simply by the palm and the apps running Dec 13 04:52:55 Oh, didn't know that Verizon tracked that separately, sorry about that. Dec 13 04:53:04 in fact to check my MHS usage I have to log in to the verizon wireless site to check it - the data usage for my line and the MHS data usage are seperated Dec 13 04:53:09 not a problem Dec 13 04:53:49 So you installed USBnet drivers to computer? Dec 13 04:54:36 so anyways... Verizon sees MHS data and Palm data as different -- hence the need to tether Dec 13 04:54:50 I've never tried using the USBnet, I probably shouldn't be trying to help you since I only know what's on the wiki :) Dec 13 04:55:05 i downloaded and right clicked to install USBNET-pre.inf Dec 13 04:55:46 I installed the USBnet-pre.inf and I added the testing feed to preware and downloaded & installed freetether Dec 13 04:55:58 restarted the PC and the Palm Dec 13 04:56:30 did you enable USBnet on the phone? Dec 13 04:56:41 now PC & PS# are connected to the palm's MHS - but can't get to the net Dec 13 04:57:28 no - I was going to make sure I jumped on here to ask for help to make sure I didn't fuck anything up... since I believe you have to enable usbnet via terminal - correct Dec 13 04:57:40 sorry - no I did not enable USBnet on the palm yet Dec 13 05:00:40 and yes, via terminal Dec 13 05:01:53 o.k. so I can't get to terminal via WebOS Quick Install.. It freezes when it's ":connecting to device" Dec 13 05:02:10 NeedTetherHelp: install terminal via preware? O:) Dec 13 05:02:26 although WOSQI not working probably isn't a good sign... :/ Dec 13 05:02:49 just so I'm not going absolutely crazy... when you dl & install freetether - there's IS or IS NOT an app Icon for it? Dec 13 05:03:10 should be an icon. Dec 13 05:03:21 unless you only installed freetetherd, not the frontend freetether. Dec 13 05:03:25 there's an app and then freetetherd Dec 13 05:03:28 exactly my concern dtzWill... I knew something was up when I restarted the palm and MHS was connecting but not letting my PC communicate Dec 13 05:04:36 I followed the directions via the forum - enabled the testing feed in preware and then searched "freet" and only one option came up - I dl'd & installed that Dec 13 05:08:15 sorry - internet connection dropped - i missed everything in the past 5 minutes Dec 13 05:10:44 i quit? Dec 13 05:13:00 so I'm thinking I need to Doc my Pre.... Dec 13 05:15:39 so is it as simple as i needed to terminal and enable usbnet before i restarted the palm? Dec 13 05:16:26 ? Dec 13 05:16:59 NeedTetherHelp: I would "usbnet enable" if you mean to tether over it certainly Dec 13 05:17:22 i installed freetether and usbnet and didn't enable usbnet yet on the palm and now MHS connects to devices but they aren't connecting to the net Dec 13 05:18:08 I'm going to plug the palm into the XP SP3 pc and see if I can even get WOSQI to connect to it Dec 13 05:21:22 NeedTetherHelp: did you install the mobilehotspot patch that turns on freetether's ip forwarding or the freetether mojo app to turn it on there? Dec 13 05:22:57 destinal - i didn't know about a MHS patch - is that to bypass MHS and use the palm's data plan? and i did not know of a mojo app either - neither were mentioned in the forum thread Dec 13 05:24:35 and of course I'm on a different computer that doesn't have opera on it so I don't remember the exact thread i was reading... Dec 13 05:24:58 NeedTetherHelp: no, it's a hack to turn on ip forwarding because right now without ip forwarding you can connect but not route traffic through the device Dec 13 05:24:58 I'm in terminal on the other PC... Dec 13 05:25:20 it requires freetether to work but it actually has to make a call to turn it on Dec 13 05:25:25 ahhhhh I'm following now Dec 13 05:26:07 most people use a patch that I think Jason r made that automatically sends the service call to do it Dec 13 05:26:09 o.k. so first I need to enable usbnet.. looking for the work flow for that right now... then I need to find this MHS patch... Dec 13 05:26:28 do you know which feed the patch is in? Dec 13 05:28:00 it is majorly frustrating when no matter what keywords you use all you find is threads for MyTether... Dec 13 05:28:17 NeedTetherHelp: I think here http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/226463-auto-enable-ip-forwarding-mobile-hotspot-2.html Dec 13 05:28:51 NeedTetherHelp: #38 Dec 13 05:29:33 sorry for being an idiot - but do you mean post 38? Dec 13 05:30:12 NeedTetherHelp: yeah -- if you've installed preware and enabled it to install patches you cick on the web, you should just have to log in to precentral and install the patch from there by clicking it Dec 13 05:30:30 I've never tried that exact one before but I think that's the right one Dec 13 05:31:24 post 38 doesn't have anything linking to or showing the patch.... hold one - reading the thread Dec 13 05:33:41 destinal: i'm lost when you say to log in and just dl it from there - I've only ever dled patches via preware app Dec 13 05:34:05 NeedTetherHelp: preware lets you install ipk files and patches from web sites or email if you allow it Dec 13 05:34:11 I need to find the work flow to enable USBnet first - then I have to find the MHS patch Dec 13 05:34:31 usually getting them from preware's feeds is preferable but I don't know if this patch is in preware Dec 13 05:34:32 lol shows you how much I don't know - didn't know you could do that Dec 13 05:34:40 gotchya Dec 13 05:35:32 tmzt: that's really cool Dec 13 05:35:36 the androiX thing Dec 13 05:35:46 hah, thanks Dec 13 05:36:02 tmzt: do you have a pre btw? I know you've been here off and on for a long time Dec 13 05:36:13 I was going to see if it could share code, I think with the new android 2.3 it will be possible Dec 13 05:36:17 no, never Dec 13 05:36:39 tmzt: basically just continuing search for open linux based device platforms? Dec 13 05:36:49 pretty much, I have a g2 now Dec 13 05:36:53 planning to get a nook color soon Dec 13 05:37:04 o.k. enabled UsbNet - now to find this MHS Patch Dec 13 05:37:06 didn't like the keyboard on the pre much Dec 13 05:37:20 tmzt: I have one, it's definitely worth it though I need bluetooth keyboard :) Dec 13 05:37:25 I'm working on a chroot tool though, it could probably be shared with webos Dec 13 05:37:40 tmzt - really the keyboard was a killer for ya? Dec 13 05:37:52 it's actually a chrooted init/xinit Dec 13 05:38:04 I dig how I can literally slice fishing line with the pre plus Dec 13 05:38:06 NeedTetherHelp: partly it just wasn't the right form factor Dec 13 05:38:14 NeedTetherHelp: hehe Dec 13 05:39:26 destinal: I'm learning some gl stuff, probably enough to get the screen blitted that way in androix Dec 13 05:39:40 at least with es shaders etc. Dec 13 05:39:45 tmzt: *nods* Dec 13 05:39:57 then maybe work on glx/glesx proxies Dec 13 05:40:14 we could use the same technique for running X in full screen "game" app in webos Dec 13 05:40:19 or has someone done that already Dec 13 05:40:26 aren't you still using sdl? Dec 13 05:40:36 tmzt: it's SDL with opengl-es Dec 13 05:40:41 when I work on it for 2.3 it will be more similar to game os Dec 13 05:40:45 because there's no java Dec 13 05:40:48 game app Dec 13 05:40:58 okay, then I should use that code Dec 13 05:41:19 basically I have an X ddx based on xvfb+ephyr Dec 13 05:41:32 which is compiled into a server built as a library Dec 13 05:41:37 ok all services are back up, just need to get off the blacklist for gamesurge and oftc now Dec 13 05:41:48 and wrong channel, but oh well Dec 13 05:41:54 chrisa: heh, was wondering Dec 13 05:42:00 then that's loaded through jni, events are handled through shared memory (direct calls into the server) Dec 13 05:42:18 and a fd wakeup by pipe Dec 13 05:42:29 er, socketpair actually Dec 13 05:42:54 nice Dec 13 05:43:05 I think the events code could be shared with webos if you implemented a native version of the js bridge (assuming that's still needed) Dec 13 05:43:36 tmzt: java is gone in webos 2.0 stock Dec 13 05:44:02 but for 2.3 I'm probably going to use an Xorg driver, though I want to remove xorg.conf as a requirement, I don't know if it's going to happen Dec 13 05:44:04 but the native code and opengl-es could be adapted to run as a native app Dec 13 05:44:33 with SDL setting up a surface and then the opengl-es calls etc Dec 13 05:44:41 right Dec 13 05:44:54 and that can all be shared, the damage routine and the rest Dec 13 05:46:10 so the only real issue I'm having is the build system, since I build in a /opt root Dec 13 05:46:23 it's just a compilicated proceedure I haven't actually documented yet Dec 13 05:49:28 tmzt: let me know when you get it written up, I'd love to play (maybe not this moment but when the NC hasn't stolen me) :) Dec 13 05:49:42 on android? Dec 13 05:50:05 tmzt: I'd probably check it out on android first and webos after Dec 13 05:50:12 since the latter will require porting Dec 13 05:50:47 not sure what you're referring to? the build instructions? Dec 13 06:11:17 tmzt: oh I thought your site said you hadn't posted info yet Dec 13 06:11:24 I only read the front page really though Dec 13 06:11:48 no, I haven't written up the documentation to build from source Dec 13 06:12:02 the apk is up there and on my dropbox Dec 13 06:19:55 tmzt: cool Dec 13 06:29:35 yay for no java Dec 13 06:29:37 bout time Dec 13 06:29:44 dundundun.... Dec 13 06:30:32 * halfhalo is fighting with nginx+git+passenger+ipkg feed thinger right now Dec 13 06:31:29 PuffTheMagic: I expected you to get all weepy at the loss of the beloved java virtual machine Dec 13 06:31:37 :PO Dec 13 06:31:39 :P Dec 13 06:31:43 hahahaha Dec 13 06:33:54 destinal, im crying on the inside Dec 13 06:34:17 * halfhalo bottles the tears up and sells them Dec 13 06:34:22 Nooooooooooooooooooo Dec 13 06:34:28 newzbin is down Dec 13 06:34:32 what am i going to do Dec 13 06:34:38 go legit? Dec 13 06:35:10 what i want is legit Dec 13 06:35:16 its a form of backup Dec 13 06:35:34 yuhuh Dec 13 06:35:35 csi: miami didnt dvr cause of stupid football games Dec 13 06:35:42 and since i payed for the cable show already Dec 13 06:35:47 i should be able to get th eback up it Dec 13 06:35:47 * halfhalo has that recording Dec 13 06:35:48 :D Dec 13 06:36:04 i keep getting undercover boos Dec 13 06:36:06 boss Dec 13 06:36:12 cause fb runs late every week Dec 13 06:36:14 hd east coast feeds FTW Dec 13 06:36:14 grrrr Dec 13 06:36:24 ftl u mean Dec 13 06:36:42 or west coast... can't remember which I'm recording on... Dec 13 06:36:53 dont u record where u live? Dec 13 06:37:02 or u on sattelite Dec 13 06:37:05 so u get to pick Dec 13 06:37:07 directv Dec 13 06:37:10 :p Dec 13 06:37:10 eh Dec 13 06:37:12 looser Dec 13 06:37:23 :D Dec 13 06:37:29 theoretically I also have time warner cable Dec 13 06:38:09 * PuffTheMagic resorts to the inferior nzbmatrix Dec 13 06:38:22 * halfhalo resorts to directv2pc Dec 13 06:40:09 mmmm 2.03MB/s Dec 13 06:41:37 thats it? psh Dec 13 06:43:31 hey all - the link to Jason R's Mobile Hot Spot patch sends me to log in and when I do - says I am not a valid user... which is BS... I even made a 2nd just in case... anyone have a link to the patch I can do OTA? Dec 13 06:44:52 the link is --> http://forums.precentral.net/webos-patches/226463-auto-enable-ip-forwarding-mobile-hotspot-2.html Dec 13 06:45:42 #38 - it's not working for me.. any suggestions? Dec 13 06:46:19 link works fine for me, even though its a .patch and not an ipk Dec 13 06:48:26 when i click the link - it asks me to log in and then when I do.. it says user invalid.. so I tried password reset - did that same result... Dec 13 06:48:57 how do you install a .patch vs an .ipk Dec 13 06:49:08 thats a precentral issue, not an internals issue, but anywho did you ever activate your account for precentral? Dec 13 06:49:11 PalmPreGuy, wait like 3 days Dec 13 06:49:16 we have a new freeTether coming out Dec 13 06:49:22 dundundun... Dec 13 06:49:32 * halfhalo has been watching PuffTheMagic work on it Dec 13 06:49:35 lol puff - I'm going to seriously gouge my eyes out Dec 13 06:50:22 FINALLY http://preware.preyourmind.org/ Dec 13 06:50:25 I've been trying - unsuccessfully - to get tethering to work... Dec 13 06:50:38 what is it with everyone and tethering today? Dec 13 06:51:21 lol Dec 13 06:51:31 halfhalo, i get 2 emails a day about freeTether Dec 13 06:51:32 Verizon is suppossed to be bumping up the per MB fee for going over the 5 GB MHS limit Dec 13 06:51:36 i figured i get workign on it again Dec 13 06:51:42 hah Dec 13 06:51:51 PalmPreGuy, another reason to join sprint Dec 13 06:51:57 unlimited = unlimited Dec 13 06:52:13 * halfhalo works on more webby type stuff... like getting capistrano+git+nginx+passenger+whatever working nicely Dec 13 06:52:52 it USED to be $1.99 per MB... then it was 50 cents.. then it was 5 cents per MB.. I heard it;s anything over 5 GB is $19.99 per GB Dec 13 06:53:36 * halfhalo has 4g tethering ftw Dec 13 06:54:04 Puff - I won't leave Verizon til my contract expires... AND Sprint and AT&T improve their network... even when they have the towers - they can't deal with the loads... Dec 13 06:55:24 I love standing next to iPhone and Droid owners and they keep timing out or not getting solid connects and I'm streaming live and they are looking at me like I did it purposely just to mess with them Dec 13 06:55:26 preyourmind, that's a blast from the past Dec 13 06:55:53 I wish I could use Flash.. like really use flash on my pre Dec 13 06:56:31 I wouldn't mind having a way to feed my pre's screen to a projector or monitor Dec 13 06:56:56 PalmPreGuy, sprint dont need to improve their network Dec 13 06:57:03 they let you use anyone elses network for free Dec 13 06:57:03 yes they do Dec 13 06:57:08 they let you use anyone elses network for free! Dec 13 06:57:09 * halfhalo gets no signal Dec 13 06:57:29 get the all america plan Dec 13 06:57:37 and use vzw's network Dec 13 06:57:44 interesting - lol has that been a selling point they have been pushing in commercials? being I don't have TV - i don't see em... Dec 13 06:57:53 who said vzw got service here? Dec 13 06:57:57 sprint does not advertize shit Dec 13 06:58:02 lol Dec 13 06:58:02 what they do is this... Dec 13 06:58:08 u call up and bitch about something Dec 13 06:58:12 or inqure Dec 13 06:58:17 and they tell u they have that feature Dec 13 06:58:21 but u would never know unless u ask Dec 13 06:58:33 * halfhalo has a cousin who works for sprint Dec 13 06:58:38 and another who works for vzw Dec 13 06:58:47 INTERESTING family gatherings Dec 13 06:58:57 that's like datin a girl for 5 months and never gettin a piece and then once you do she's like I woulda done ya the first night - but you didn't ask... wtf Dec 13 06:59:21 thats exactly what its like Dec 13 06:59:33 but then u can have your way with her forever Dec 13 06:59:40 lol Dec 13 06:59:55 andlive stream it on the net IF Qik would ever work Dec 13 06:59:56 I am so glad this is being logged Dec 13 07:00:39 nobody wants to sleep with AT&T.... Dec 13 07:00:53 sprint likes anal Dec 13 07:01:01 that's my kinda gal Dec 13 07:01:03 anyways Dec 13 07:01:27 WHY do the palms heat up like volcanos when you do anything for more than 5 seconds? Dec 13 07:01:51 java Dec 13 07:02:08 bootie is closed? Dec 13 07:02:15 they double as hand woarkers Dec 13 07:02:24 wow... that did not come out right Dec 13 07:02:56 warmers Dec 13 07:02:58 lol Dec 13 07:03:05 on sprint u can get 10 dollars back every month per phone doing drop call credit Dec 13 07:03:12 its awesome on family plan with 4 lines Dec 13 07:03:23 halfhalo: you have experience with that? I'm working on a game using node.js for the server (maybe) Dec 13 07:03:29 LOL WTF - how do you prove that you had the dropped calls? Dec 13 07:03:35 u dont have to Dec 13 07:03:46 its an automated service Dec 13 07:03:52 tmzt: mebe Dec 13 07:03:54 man that's way more than anal... that's A2M Dec 13 07:04:11 one of those things where u say whats wrong to the computer and it figures out what u are saying Dec 13 07:04:35 back before smartphones were out Dec 13 07:04:39 when u dowloaded games thought sprint Dec 13 07:04:41 so Puff - how much does Sprint pay you to push them here? Dec 13 07:04:49 u could get 2 failed game downloads a month Dec 13 07:04:54 at $5 a pop Dec 13 07:06:03 I remember when Verizon had REAL insurance on their phones... ot through assurance... and I had 9 BlackBerry Curves... got a new one and got to keep the "dead" one Dec 13 07:06:15 i dont get paid, i just think data plans are crazy on other carriers and more people would go with sprint if they ever advertised anything Dec 13 07:06:18 but they dont Dec 13 07:06:24 like the failed palm launch Dec 13 07:06:36 didnt see a pre commercial till vzw had them Dec 13 07:06:39 the cost of cell phone plans is a joke to begin with Dec 13 07:06:42 pretty sad Dec 13 07:06:42 * halfhalo would go to tmo if he could Dec 13 07:06:42 they didn't advertise? Dec 13 07:06:50 tmzt, not really Dec 13 07:07:04 I didn't see any Palm Commercials until Verizon was like 0 crap we have 4 million to get rid of Dec 13 07:07:39 nobody liked the first Palm commercials (very confusing), but Sprint had 3G to 4G ones out very early Dec 13 07:07:57 Verizon didn't plan on having MHS for free - and then boom they started giving it away free for life w 5GB cap to move the palms Dec 13 07:08:00 yeah the early palm pre commercials didnt make any sense Dec 13 07:08:10 and the lack of sprint pre commercials didnt help Dec 13 07:08:16 massive fail Dec 13 07:08:37 Were those the commercials where the chick is walking down the street and she's gesturing the cards around Dec 13 07:08:59 i dont rememeber any more Dec 13 07:09:03 thats how memorable they were Dec 13 07:09:11 that was the ONLY commercial I saw Dec 13 07:09:22 still only at 8 players Dec 13 07:09:38 don't exactly need nginx :) Dec 13 07:10:02 nginx is fun though! Dec 13 07:10:10 halfhalo: androix.org:8080 Dec 13 07:10:13 halfhalo, stop stalking our git repos! Dec 13 07:10:13 actually, only reason im using it is for passenger Dec 13 07:10:23 i can see u though the fense Dec 13 07:10:31 :p Dec 13 07:10:38 so Puff - this new tethering app.... am I going to have to dl and install 9 millions things to make it work? or will it have a simple and straightforward work flow Dec 13 07:10:40 :) Dec 13 07:10:45 ya froze chrome... Dec 13 07:10:45 oops Dec 13 07:10:55 no you crashed node Dec 13 07:11:02 well server.js Dec 13 07:11:41 PalmPreGuy, nope Dec 13 07:11:43 its standlone Dec 13 07:11:49 hahahahahaha Dec 13 07:11:59 Thank god Dec 13 07:12:04 halfhalo, why was that so funny Dec 13 07:12:14 not you, tmzt Dec 13 07:12:16 halfhalo, freeTether was always standlone Dec 13 07:12:23 PalmPreGuy, ^^ Dec 13 07:12:30 god, always up in peoples grill puff... jeesh :p Dec 13 07:12:32 but i never added wifi support Dec 13 07:12:39 and people started using with with the hotspot app Dec 13 07:13:05 o.k. so YOU came up with FreeTether... and Jason wrote the patch? Dec 13 07:13:11 https://git.preyourmind.org/ hehehehehe.... Dec 13 07:13:15 PalmPreGuy, ya Dec 13 07:13:32 he raped my app Dec 13 07:13:41 good times... Dec 13 07:13:51 lol he's canadian... your app liked it Dec 13 07:14:07 thats right-A Dec 13 07:14:10 probably had bangra blaring while he did it too Dec 13 07:14:14 halfhalo, u didnt prefix your comment with with a persons name and it came right after comment so i can only assume it was to me Dec 13 07:14:34 dont cha know Dec 13 07:14:42 BAZING Dec 13 07:14:52 ahhh fer pete's sake Dec 13 07:16:07 so I suppose I'll hafta Doctor my Pre b4 I touch your new tether app huh Puff? Dec 13 07:16:25 now that I've bastardized it with Jason's Rape Goo Dec 13 07:18:01 I want to be able to play online browser games like www.supremacy1914.com on my palm Dec 13 07:21:50 YAHOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I fixed my Pre! :D (GF's Pre for now) ... fixed the speaker that got stuck with coffee :D Dec 13 07:21:52 ya im not up on what jasons patches do Dec 13 07:23:47 so i guess everyone with my situation needs this J-Robo Raped Patch Dec 13 07:25:13 NuttyBunny: just cleaning it up fixed? Dec 13 07:27:24 sorry dropped connection Dec 13 07:27:25 okay so we hvae palmpreguy, preguy, preplusguy, and pregal... Dec 13 07:27:32 destinal: yes and no, I had to clean the speaker, it was all messy (vanilla capuccino), but when I tried to open it, I cut the wires that go into the small coil for the speaker... Dec 13 07:27:49 hah Dec 13 07:28:29 I think I'm just gonna webos doc my palm tomorrow... blah Dec 13 07:28:39 destinal: I had to look for the cut wires and resolder them outside the speaker, meanwhile I took it apart completely and cleaned it perfectly... after that, a bit of glue, solder, some tests and boom action time! :D Dec 13 07:28:43 hey now... PrePlusGuy is my precentral handle Dec 13 07:29:21 I'm a new Pre Plus Guy too :) Dec 13 07:31:34 I just wanted to share my first time opening a Palm Pre... it was fun, even if I did cut some wires and managed to fix them!!! Dec 13 07:32:23 Gotta go, the weather people reports of a low temp of -1 Celsius (about 31F), so I'll sleep before that occurs ;) Dec 13 07:32:35 hey any one now what it means when you try to run preware and it gives you an error saying "the service is not running. First try restarting preware, or reboot ur phone... Even after you do that Dec 13 07:33:32 cetus: how did you install it? Dec 13 07:34:02 * NuttyBunny votes for rebooting the phone, it may got the service stuck downloading ;) Dec 13 07:34:17 quick install from pc Dec 13 07:34:28 versions of everything? Dec 13 07:34:56 sry not Dec 13 07:35:12 sry not sure what you mean Dec 13 07:35:25 what is the version of quick install, webos and preware ? Dec 13 07:36:50 I know web os is 1.4.5 and so is preware but not sure on the quick instal version Dec 13 10:18:11 hello cryptk. still have odd hours with this new job? Dec 13 10:18:44 still workin nights, but not sure which job you are referring to, I have a new new one (within last couple months) Dec 13 10:18:53 I work at Rackspace now Dec 13 10:19:44 cryptk, haha ya i was referring to the one after the military gig Dec 13 10:20:04 yeah, this is my third after the military, lol Dec 13 10:20:14 but this is the one I wanted in the first place Dec 13 10:22:18 cryptk, congratulations on scoring it than Dec 13 10:23:11 How is everything? did you get to ride your bike before the cold? Dec 13 10:23:41 my bike was stolen... Dec 13 10:24:00 oh shit really? Dec 13 10:24:07 yeah, has been for a bit now Dec 13 10:24:38 I think you told me this. I forgot. Dec 13 10:27:57 cryptk, well it was good to see you. I am going to hit the hay... finals week is here :-? Dec 13 10:28:06 :-/ Dec 13 10:28:10 study hard man! Dec 13 10:28:39 cryptk, hehe will do. thanks! you have a good one. Dec 13 10:28:56 you too Dec 13 10:31:31 hiya jack87_ how did that paper go? Dec 13 10:37:15 ka6sox, hi! got me before bed... I thought I told you... Dec 13 10:37:23 I got an A 100% thanks again. Dec 13 10:40:46 ka6sox, I better get to bed. But again thanks so much for your help on that. Will have to catch up again soon. Dec 13 10:41:22 w00t! laters... Dec 13 10:41:37 ka6sox: before you bail Dec 13 10:41:39 errr Dec 13 10:41:42 ka6sox: hi to you too O:) Dec 13 10:41:46 jack87_: before you bail Dec 13 10:41:49 he he Dec 13 10:41:56 * dtzWill waves to jack87_ Dec 13 10:42:04 dtzWill, You are still up? hehe Hello! Dec 13 10:42:56 jack87_: sleep is for the weak. Dec 13 10:43:07 also, it's finals week O:) Dec 13 10:43:08 Good seeing you guys! and Happy webOSing to all and a goodnight :-) Dec 13 10:43:32 haha it is finals week hehe same boat Dec 13 10:43:44 jack87_: 'night! didn't mean to keep ya but you know long time no see, etc :) Dec 13 10:44:31 dtzWill, it is always a pleasure! I will try to come bug you guys more often during winter break. Dec 13 10:44:48 hehe, sounds like a plan :). Dec 13 10:45:10 Night folks Dec 13 13:06:52 good morning folks Dec 13 13:07:17 I'm about ready to WebDR my palm Dec 13 13:08:04 want to make sure I do it correctly to wipe out everything - cause I tried it once and when it reloaded - it still had things like tabbed pages and 5x5 Dec 13 13:08:19 Hi everyone Dec 13 13:08:30 morning NuttyBunny Dec 13 13:08:37 CldBWrs: Have you deleted your Palm Profile also? Dec 13 13:09:02 They store the number of launcher pages and the app distribution there Dec 13 13:09:13 no - why would I delete Palm Profile - ie isn't that where all my paid apps are verified through? Dec 13 13:09:27 wow... Dec 13 13:09:38 You need to erase everything so you can install patches again, right? Dec 13 13:09:54 (don't worry, your apps won't go anywhere, you only delete the synched data) Dec 13 13:09:55 yeah - I want a completely fresh start Dec 13 13:10:19 o.k. - so how do I do this lol Dec 13 13:10:33