**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 30 02:59:58 2010
Dec 30 03:38:18 <Jack87-Work> is the nook worth it?
Dec 30 03:39:29 <bpadalino> nice display, decent processor, good hackability, relatively cheap - if you're into futzing with devices, it seems like a good one to futz with
Dec 30 03:40:17 <destinal> Jack87-Work: nook color?  absolutely
Dec 30 03:40:28 <destinal> I've been working with it almost since they came out
Dec 30 03:41:49 <Jack87-Work> destinal: now do you think the money would go better towards another tablet like galaxy stuff? from what i understand its a bit heavy and short on battery life
Dec 30 03:43:11 <destinal> Jack87-Work: the nook color has an IPS screen, similar to the iPad.  it's only a 7 inch tablet but for the money it's awesome.  It's designed just as a book reader so to load other versions of android or sideload apps or get access to android market, you have to open it up, which is as easy as writing a special sd card and putting it in
Dec 30 03:43:27 <destinal> it's an omap3 like pre/pre2 and so will boot off sd card or usb
Dec 30 03:43:31 <halfhalo> hehe.... special
Dec 30 03:44:07 <Jack87-Work> very nice... no 3g though?
Dec 30 03:44:08 <destinal> halfhalo: the nice thing is, like the palm devices, it's not locked down in any way to prevent the owner from running what they want
Dec 30 03:44:24 <destinal> ie no crypto bootloader
Dec 30 03:44:25 <destinal> etc
Dec 30 03:44:38 * halfhalo is meeting with arm and archos in a week
Dec 30 03:45:07 <Jack87-Work> is this guy lieing saying it has 3g? http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=13701194&cat=19&lpid=&search=nook%20color
Dec 30 03:45:26 <destinal> Jack87-Work: nah, it's just a tablet, not a telephony device of any kind.  it has wifi and a 3axis accelerometer and a nice touchscreen that can theoretically do like 10 touches at oncew
Dec 30 03:46:01 <bpadalino> the pre goes up to 11
Dec 30 03:46:10 <halfhalo> for that... special someone
Dec 30 03:46:10 <destinal> bpadalino: :P
Dec 30 03:46:16 <Jack87-Work> destinal: very nice.... i guess another ting to wonder about. whats the clock speed do you know
Dec 30 03:46:18 <bpadalino> i  just had to make the joke :)
Dec 30 03:46:33 <bpadalino> isn't it stock like 800MHz ?
Dec 30 03:46:51 <destinal> Jack87-Work: 800Mhz stock, but it's almost the same chip as the pre2, so we could see a lot more
Dec 30 03:47:12 <Jack87-Work> can it potentially play video?
Dec 30 03:47:20 <destinal> Jack87-Work: it plays video out of the box
Dec 30 03:47:44 <destinal> I think you have to transcode for it but it's pretty capable
Dec 30 03:47:51 <Jack87-Work> nice.. i think i want one. i work for Center For Disability services so have access to high speed scanner and scan all my textbooks
Dec 30 03:47:56 <Jack87-Work> it would be supper handy
Dec 30 03:48:40 <destinal> Jack87-Work: yeah, the stock features are really useful and then the ability to open it up and run an even better multitouch web browser or google apps or angry birds or whatever is nice too :P
Dec 30 03:48:57 * halfhalo is watching bundle murder his vps
Dec 30 03:49:07 <Jack87-Work> indeed.. no way i can leave it stock. haha
Dec 30 03:50:11 <destinal> Jack87-Work: #nookcolor is where most of the talk is going on
Dec 30 03:50:31 <Jack87-Work> good call. ill jump in there sorry peeps
Dec 30 05:43:46 <Jack87-Home> hello cryptk!
Dec 30 05:43:59 <cryptk> hola!
Dec 30 06:27:32 <PuffTheMagic> new teaser http://ompldr.org/vNnM0Zw
Dec 30 06:28:04 <scoutcamper> PuffTheMagic, it pains me to see pixi screenshots
Dec 30 06:28:34 <PuffTheMagic> scoutcamper, go fly a kite
Dec 30 06:28:36 <PuffTheMagic> ;)
Dec 30 06:28:47 <PuffTheMagic> pixi is where its at
Dec 30 06:28:50 <Jack-wIRC> so many slide offs
Dec 30 06:29:01 <PuffTheMagic> slide offs?
Dec 30 06:29:03 <scoutcamper> PuffTheMagic, no, try pre2 :D
Dec 30 06:29:08 <PuffTheMagic> i have a pre2
Dec 30 06:29:10 <PuffTheMagic> i dont like it
Dec 30 06:29:26 <Jack-wIRC> on freeway
Dec 30 06:29:31 <PuffTheMagic> oh
Dec 30 06:29:51 <PuffTheMagic> Jack-wIRC, its cause people dont know how to change lanes
Dec 30 06:30:03 <Jack-wIRC> taking street back home
Dec 30 06:30:13 * scoutcamper thinks novaports is staffed by webos-internals and thus is webos-internals
Dec 30 06:30:27 <Jack-wIRC> ya so many crapy drivers
Dec 30 06:32:04 <PuffTheMagic> http://ompldr.org/vNnM0bg
Dec 30 06:32:08 * SineOt is so used to going 5-10 over the speed limit and still be getting passed it's kind of sad
Dec 30 06:32:09 <PuffTheMagic> ^^ there is another
Dec 30 06:32:17 <PuffTheMagic> Jack-wIRC, check the option in that last screenshot
Dec 30 06:32:42 <scoutcamper> PuffTheMagic, PAIN! its not even webos 2.0
Dec 30 06:34:19 <PuffTheMagic> well if there was a 2.x pixi doctor i would be using it ;)
Dec 30 06:36:53 <Jack-wIRC> PuffTheMagic: looking great
Dec 30 06:37:04 <halfhalo> Bah, pixi
Dec 30 06:38:13 <PuffTheMagic> granted, i dont play games on my pixi, but i dont notice a diff between the pixi and my pre- for normal activities
Dec 30 06:38:28 <PuffTheMagic> in terms of ui smoothness
Dec 30 06:38:32 <PuffTheMagic> and app loading
Dec 30 06:38:40 <PuffTheMagic> i do notice the better kb on the pixi
Dec 30 06:38:43 <PuffTheMagic> and its lightness
Dec 30 06:38:46 <PuffTheMagic> and thinness
Dec 30 06:38:48 <PuffTheMagic> :D
Dec 30 06:39:24 <PuffTheMagic> Jack-wIRC, but did u notice the usb options, i have it so u can switch modes with out rebooting ;)
Dec 30 06:39:29 <halfhalo> And smaller screen
Dec 30 06:39:38 <PuffTheMagic> oooh
Dec 30 06:39:40 <PuffTheMagic> 80px
Dec 30 06:39:43 <PuffTheMagic> big deal
Dec 30 06:39:59 <PuffTheMagic> its only useful in the app launcher
Dec 30 06:40:02 <PuffTheMagic> to fit an extra row
Dec 30 06:40:05 <PuffTheMagic> not important in any app
Dec 30 06:40:26 * halfhalo likes it for the browser
Dec 30 06:41:07 <PuffTheMagic> i think all the other plusses of the pixi trump 80px screen loss
Dec 30 06:41:09 <Jack-wIRC> you rock dude
Dec 30 06:41:28 <Jack-wIRC> even on pixi 1.4.5?
Dec 30 06:42:01 <PuffTheMagic> yup
Dec 30 06:42:16 <PuffTheMagic> its novacomd on on 1.4.5 that likes to crash the phone
Dec 30 06:42:25 <PuffTheMagic> so i just stop it before switching modes
Dec 30 06:42:30 <PuffTheMagic> then start it again
Dec 30 06:42:35 <PuffTheMagic> no crash
Dec 30 06:48:47 * scoutcamper notes that novaports has destinal and ka6sox
Dec 30 06:49:06 <ka6sox> ?
Dec 30 06:50:16 <scoutcamper> u r paort of novaports
Dec 30 06:50:24 <scoutcamper> i assume it is porting webos
Dec 30 06:50:43 <PuffTheMagic> wtf is novaports
Dec 30 06:50:47 <destinal> scoutcamper: novaports is hacking various interesting things on omap devices
Dec 30 06:51:02 <scoutcamper> PuffTheMagic, http://www.novaports.org/wiki/Main_Page
Dec 30 06:51:05 <destinal> starting with optware on the android devices and angstrom
Dec 30 06:52:16 <scoutcamper> destinal, i plan on trying to join and can be a prealpha/alpha/beta tester for the nook color
Dec 30 06:52:24 <PuffTheMagic> ahh an internals spinoff
Dec 30 06:52:49 <destinal> scoutcamper: nook color is the first device we're working on
Dec 30 06:53:11 <destinal> it's a really nice tablet for $250
Dec 30 06:53:14 <scoutcamper> destinal, :D i love the NC
Dec 30 06:53:26 * halfhalo wants someone to buy him one
Dec 30 06:55:55 * scoutcamper wants money to pour from the skys, whats halfhalo 's point?
Dec 30 06:56:33 <PuffTheMagic> destinal, u see the latest screenshots of ft?
Dec 30 06:58:39 <PuffTheMagic> halfhalo, i need a new computer to play civ5 on
Dec 30 06:58:45 <PuffTheMagic> my mbp aint cutting it
Dec 30 06:58:56 <PuffTheMagic> at least not on the huge maps that i play with
Dec 30 06:59:02 * halfhalo has a desktop for that
Dec 30 06:59:05 <PuffTheMagic> i get to about 1400 and turns take too long to be fun
Dec 30 06:59:12 <PuffTheMagic> thats year 1400
Dec 30 06:59:14 <Jack-wIRC> 266.06 w/ 6.85 tax :)
Dec 30 06:59:19 <halfhalo> Yeah
Dec 30 07:00:08 <PuffTheMagic> im gonna build me a core i7 box w/ 12gb ram when i get back home from break
Dec 30 07:00:47 <destinal> PuffTheMagic: yeah the screenshots look really slick
Dec 30 07:00:51 <halfhalo> Nice
Dec 30 07:01:35 <PuffTheMagic> btw...
Dec 30 07:02:04 <scoutcamper> PuffTheMagic, my friend just built a corei7 with 6gb's of ram
Dec 30 07:02:27 <halfhalo> I'm happy with my q6600 for the next few months
Dec 30 07:02:30 <PuffTheMagic> everyone who does not have a 2048x1152 lcd is missing out
Dec 30 07:02:42 * halfhalo has one
Dec 30 07:02:51 <PuffTheMagic> dell?
Dec 30 07:02:51 <halfhalo> It's a sammy
Dec 30 07:02:54 <PuffTheMagic> ah
Dec 30 07:03:06 <PuffTheMagic> 23incher?
Dec 30 07:03:10 <halfhalo> Yup
Dec 30 07:03:20 <halfhalo> They only made one panel with that res
Dec 30 07:03:30 <PuffTheMagic> ya and its the shit
Dec 30 07:03:35 <halfhalo> Yup yup
Dec 30 07:03:36 <PuffTheMagic> halfhalo, u got no hdmi though :(
Dec 30 07:03:40 <scoutcamper> PuffTheMagic, halfhalo i have a 1900x1280 lcd with a pc hooked up to it :D
Dec 30 07:03:57 <halfhalo> Eh, I have a 1080p next to it
Dec 30 07:03:58 <PuffTheMagic> scoutcamper, your screen is the pixi of lcds
Dec 30 07:04:12 <halfhalo> And. 32inch 1080p tv
Dec 30 07:04:24 <scoutcamper> PuffTheMagic, mine does 1080i and is 60inch
Dec 30 07:04:29 * PuffTheMagic has 56" DLP 1080p
Dec 30 07:04:32 <Jack-wIRC> scoutcamper: just grabbed mine
Dec 30 07:04:39 <PuffTheMagic> its ~4 years old now though
Dec 30 07:04:45 <scoutcamper> PuffTheMagic, mine is 2
Dec 30 07:04:54 <halfhalo> Mine is from Christmas
Dec 30 07:05:05 <PuffTheMagic> i got it just when it was impossible to get CRT tv
Dec 30 07:05:12 <PuffTheMagic> so had to get a lcd/plasma/dlp
Dec 30 07:05:15 <scoutcamper> halfhalo, yours is just over 1/2 of mine :D
Dec 30 07:05:24 <PuffTheMagic> and i wanted massive size
Dec 30 07:05:30 <PuffTheMagic> and didnt want to pay shit tons of money
Dec 30 07:05:38 <PuffTheMagic> and i wanted 1080p
Dec 30 07:05:45 <PuffTheMagic> so this dlp was only 1400
Dec 30 07:05:51 <Jack-wIRC> only like hdtv as comp monitor
Dec 30 07:05:51 <PuffTheMagic> which was a steal back then
Dec 30 07:05:54 <scoutcamper> PuffTheMagic, it ways like nothing as well
Dec 30 07:06:14 <PuffTheMagic> ya my tv stand is heavier than the tv
Dec 30 07:06:30 * halfhalo got his for 325
Dec 30 07:06:37 <PuffTheMagic> lol, my center speaker is heavier than my tv
Dec 30 07:06:58 <PuffTheMagic> center speakers are so under appreciated
Dec 30 07:07:37 <halfhalo> Lol
Dec 30 07:19:59 <scoutcamper> Jack87-wRIC, feel like changing nicks eh?
Dec 30 07:21:50 <cryptk> scoutcamper, he is probably grouping all of his nicks
Dec 30 07:22:07 <scoutcamper> eh
Dec 30 07:35:17 <Jack87> scoutcamper: haha sorry folk was grouping
Dec 30 07:48:59 <ka6sox> grouping good.
Dec 30 07:52:51 <scoutcamper> brb(more grouping
Dec 30 10:03:27 <fahhem> anybody awake with a working WIDK install?
Dec 30 10:55:32 <noradtux> fahhem: me :)
Dec 30 10:59:19 <fahhem> sweet, what linux distro?
Dec 30 10:59:29 <noradtux> debian/sid
Dec 30 10:59:49 <fahhem> perfect, i'm having trouble at the make stage portion
Dec 30 10:59:56 <fahhem> on debian/lenny though
Dec 30 11:00:29 <fahhem> did you have to edit any lua files to get it working?
Dec 30 11:00:42 <noradtux> nope
Dec 30 11:00:58 <noradtux> maybe lenny is too old
Dec 30 11:01:48 <fahhem> lenny is 'stable' though
Dec 30 11:02:13 <noradtux> yeah, but quite outdated ..
Dec 30 11:02:21 <fahhem> i have a bunch of 'testing' packages, I upgraded everything mentioned in the wiki to testing
Dec 30 11:03:04 <noradtux> you might want to take a look at schroot and set up a chroot for compiling
Dec 30 11:03:44 <noradtux> that's what I did, so I don't clutter my work-environment with stuff for compiling webos
Dec 30 11:04:56 <fahhem> i just shove things into ~/projects/somedir/, so i have everything under ~/projects/palm/preware/
Dec 30 11:05:45 <noradtux> with "cluttering my system" I meant the additional packages like scratchbox
Dec 30 11:07:05 <fahhem> oh, good point...
Dec 30 11:10:54 <fahhem> noradtux: did you ever set "SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD" in your env?
Dec 30 11:11:29 <noradtux> err, nope? what's that supposed to do?
Dec 30 11:12:02 <fahhem> well, because it's blank for me i'm getting this "bad argument #1 to 'match' (string expected, got nil)"
Dec 30 11:12:42 <fahhem> and when i set it to qemu-arm, i get "Rule file interface version check failed: No version information in /tmp/sb2-.../rules/Default.lua"
Dec 30 13:27:48 <sampson> are you guys really porting webos to the nook or is that a joke
Dec 30 13:38:52 <CTLAdvance> were already 80% there
Dec 30 13:39:19 <CTLAdvance> makes an awesome os for an ereader
Dec 30 13:39:38 <CTLAdvance> nook color will follow suit
Dec 30 13:39:49 <sampson> wow
Dec 30 13:40:09 <CTLAdvance> im joking of course
Dec 30 13:40:22 <sampson> my bullshit meter was going off
Dec 30 13:40:38 <CTLAdvance> but if webOS was to be put on an ereader, the nook classic would be perfect
Dec 30 13:40:38 <sampson> sarcasm doesn't flow well through text
Dec 30 13:40:53 <sampson> someone was saying that this chan was porting to nook color
Dec 30 13:41:06 <CTLAdvance> hmm interesting
Dec 30 13:41:29 <CTLAdvance> I think it would be more interesting to see it on the e-ink one
Dec 30 13:41:49 <sampson> i don't think that would really be plausible considering mojo isn't open source
Dec 30 13:41:57 <sampson> unless you only wanted the color lcd screen to work
Dec 30 13:42:17 <CTLAdvance> Most of the OS is not open source
Dec 30 13:42:22 <CTLAdvance> just teh underpinnings
Dec 30 13:42:31 <CTLAdvance> but im not the one to talk to about that
Dec 30 13:42:37 <CTLAdvance> I just responded to your query
Dec 30 15:05:36 <bobbydharrell> Can I ask a quick question please ... I read the article this am on precentral.net about freeTether ... were can I get the current version of this app or a place holder so I can be notified when the new version is released? Thanks
Dec 30 15:06:23 <ka6sox> bobbydharrell, ask in #wirc
Dec 30 15:06:27 <ka6sox> whoops
Dec 30 15:06:29 <ka6sox> wrong
Dec 30 15:06:30 <ka6sox> sorry
Dec 30 15:06:39 <ka6sox> here is where you will find them ;D
Dec 30 15:07:10 <bobbydharrell> where?
Dec 30 15:07:17 <bobbydharrell> was there supposed to be a link?
Dec 30 15:07:26 <bobbydharrell> and thanks for the quick response!
Dec 30 15:08:25 <ka6sox> the link isn't in the article?
Dec 30 15:08:33 * ka6sox didn't have a chance to read it yet
Dec 30 15:08:51 <bpadalino> i believe you just need to enable the testing feeds: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds
Dec 30 15:09:52 <bobbydharrell> not that I saw ... it was talking about a new version coming out in the coming weeks ... but no download link for current version .. and I could not find freeTether in PreWare : article link: http://www.precentral.net/freetether-update-bring-wi-fi-tethering-masses
Dec 30 15:10:04 <bobbydharrell> thanks bpadalino .. I will give that a try!
Dec 30 15:11:45 <ka6sox> interesting. 0.0.1 is in the feeds.
Dec 30 15:11:52 <ka6sox> for testing
Dec 30 15:12:41 <ka6sox> and 0.0.3 is in armv7 testing feed.
Dec 30 15:12:49 <destinal> ka6sox: is that the old one?
Dec 30 15:13:17 <destinal> freeTether's been around a while just not functional standalone
Dec 30 15:13:23 * ka6sox has no idea of what is current...I just know what the server has in the feed.
Dec 30 15:15:15 <bobbydharrell> freeTetherD now shows up .. is that the correct app? Thanks .. sorry for dumb questions!
Dec 30 15:15:35 <bobbydharrell> also is there a place to see all the different custom feeds I can add to preware?
Dec 30 15:15:45 * ka6sox has no answers...sorry don't use it currently.
Dec 30 15:15:55 <ka6sox> but it sounds nice
Dec 30 15:16:25 <bobbydharrell> ok .. fair enough .. Thanks for all your help!
Dec 30 15:23:56 <CTLAdvance> ka6sox puff the magic or egaudet will know
Dec 30 15:24:01 <CTLAdvance> they are working on the update
Dec 30 15:24:45 <ka6sox> TaDa! I am saved...thanks CTLAdvance I can't keep track of who is doing what.
Dec 30 15:25:01 * ka6sox can barely keep track of himself.
Dec 30 15:25:10 <ka6sox> okay off to make some smoke.
Dec 30 15:26:58 <PuffTheMagic> http://www.precentral.net/freetether-update-bring-wi-fi-tethering-masses
Dec 30 15:37:53 <sampson> did palm ever fix gmaps to not suck terribly on the pre
Dec 30 15:37:57 <sampson> well google i guess
Dec 30 15:38:08 <sampson> thinking about switching back i can't stand android
Dec 30 15:43:09 <PuffTheMagic> no why would they
Dec 30 15:43:15 <PuffTheMagic> they want to piss off webos users
Dec 30 15:55:32 <sampson> lame... still using webos PuffTheMagic?
Dec 30 16:05:47 <PuffTheMagic> sampson, what would I be using?
Dec 30 16:06:55 <sampson> no idea.. i'd figure you would be on pre #10 by now though
Dec 30 16:07:11 <sampson> i got sick of all the bunk pres sprint sent me and ragequited to an evo
Dec 30 16:19:24 <destinal> sampson: heh but this is webos-internals.  strangely, most of us use webos :)
Dec 30 16:20:09 <sampson> yeah i know i used to come in here all the time
Dec 30 16:20:15 <sampson> just kind of shocking to see you guys still here
Dec 30 16:26:09 <destinal> sampson: Heh, some of us like using devices we don't have to exploit to get into, and pre2 is a pretty decent spec bump, webos 2.0 has hardware acceleration, etc
Dec 30 16:26:33 <destinal> some I've talked to have left pre for evo and been less happy, but YMMV
Dec 30 16:26:37 <sampson> yeah but no sprint love  unfortunately
Dec 30 16:27:02 <sampson> I'm one of those destinal... contemplating buying a used pre to get back although I know that the pre will implode in a few months
Dec 30 16:27:44 <destinal> sampson: palm is promising new hardware every few months in 2011.  maybe sprint will carry some
Dec 30 16:27:46 <Davide-NYC> anyone attempt and successfully accomplish a frankenpre2 operation?
Dec 30 16:27:59 <destinal> Davide-NYC: we're hearing reports of reliable pre2-sprintification
Dec 30 16:28:06 <destinal> have to confirm ourselves
Dec 30 16:28:27 <Davide-NYC> same procedure as sprintipied preplus?
Dec 30 16:28:35 <Davide-NYC> *sprintified
Dec 30 16:28:48 <destinal> more or less, I haven't seen a really good doc yet so I'd wait a bit
Dec 30 16:29:59 <Davide-NYC> anybody successfully pick up a couponed pre2 from HP?
Dec 30 16:30:26 <destinal> sampson: depending on how dedicated you were you could get a pre2 and a used pre with good ESN, activate the pre on sprint normally through your sprint rep, and then swap the comm board / back of pre into pre2 for a pre2 on sprint
Dec 30 16:30:51 <destinal> but I'd probably wait to see what new hardware comes out in Q2 2011
Dec 30 16:31:42 <Davide-NYC> sampson: that is exactly what I intend to do in the next week or so if I can get a Pre2 at a reasonable price.
Dec 30 16:31:43 <Davide-NYC> Did with the prePlus and it was night and day.
Dec 30 16:31:53 <sampson> destinal: i've seen that but i don't think i can justify $250 on a pre 2 especially with palm hopefully announcing a new phone
Dec 30 16:32:28 <destinal> sampson: yeah, understandable
Dec 30 16:46:47 * PuffTheMagic is wirc-ing over freetether going 70mph
Dec 30 16:46:48 <PuffTheMagic> :S
Dec 30 16:52:17 <destinal> PuffTheMagic:  :)
Dec 30 16:53:02 <Davide-NYC> mplayer port is exciting.
Dec 30 16:55:29 <CTLAdvance> PuffTheMagic - Is the latest release in the testing feed?
Dec 30 16:55:35 <CTLAdvance> or have you not deployed it yet
Dec 30 16:56:15 <scoutcamper> CTLAdvance, define latest? the one precentral is talking about? or the teaser that he keeps giving you?
Dec 30 16:56:23 <scoutcamper> s/you/out/
Dec 30 16:56:39 <CTLAdvance> What ever the latest version is
Dec 30 16:56:43 <CTLAdvance> most recent
Dec 30 16:56:45 <CTLAdvance> up to date
Dec 30 16:56:49 <CTLAdvance> totally awesome
Dec 30 16:57:04 <CTLAdvance> best of the best
Dec 30 16:57:15 <CTLAdvance> highest stable version number that works
Dec 30 16:57:19 <CTLAdvance> etc etc etc
Dec 30 16:58:16 <scoutcamper> he has not deployed the new version yet
Dec 30 16:58:34 <CTLAdvance> OK Thanks, it looks very good.
Dec 30 17:00:06 <RagingMind> why does everyone focus on getting Pre2 franken-whatever on sprint and not Verizon?  :(
Dec 30 17:01:40 <RagingMind> *sigh*
Dec 30 17:07:42 <destinal> RagingMind: because we all started on Sprint :)
Dec 30 17:07:56 <destinal> also vzw will be getting an official pre2 soon
Dec 30 17:08:25 <RagingMind> I wonder if I can get an early upgrade deal of some kind...
Dec 30 17:09:34 <RagingMind> though I'd rather have a whole new unit anyway.
Dec 30 17:10:59 <Davide-NYC> What are the chances of hardware accelerated codec support? (VLC, mplayer, native) on WebOS?
Dec 30 17:12:41 <scoutcamper> http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/271789-mplayer-1-0-a-5.html
Dec 30 17:12:47 <scoutcamper> :D
Dec 30 17:13:18 <halfhalo> BOOM
Dec 30 17:14:11 <destinal> scoutcamper: has the person who built that release source / patches yet?
Dec 30 17:14:36 <Davide-NYC> is that really HW accelerated? It's dog slow on my launch day pre
Dec 30 17:56:50 <Tibfib> oil: ping
Dec 30 18:07:42 <halfhalo> Mooooo
Dec 30 18:10:26 <scoutcamper> halfhalo, discuss something controversial
Dec 30 18:10:28 <scoutcamper> :D
Dec 30 18:11:18 <halfhalo> This burrito sucks?
Dec 30 18:13:18 <halfhalo> I mean... It's just crap
Dec 30 18:31:16 <scoutcamper> wow
Dec 30 18:31:29 <scoutcamper> i just realized i forgot to un-away myself :D
Dec 30 18:31:31 <scoutcamper> brb
Dec 30 18:31:54 <oilsworkn> hm
Dec 30 18:32:31 <halfhalo> Lol
Dec 30 18:33:45 <scoutcamper> yay for grouping :D
Dec 30 18:55:29 <ice8lue> hey everyone =) what is USB tethering in freeTether?
Dec 30 18:56:02 <scoutcamper> ice8lue, thats a question for PuffTheMagic or egaudet
Dec 30 18:56:47 <bpadalino> probably pretty much what it sounds like
Dec 30 18:56:49 <Loudergood> not 100% sure here, but I think it's when you actually connect to the pre over USB for your network connection
Dec 30 18:56:56 <bpadalino> tcp/ip over usb
Dec 30 18:57:36 <ice8lue> bpadalino: ah, yeah that makes sense^^
Dec 30 18:58:00 <ice8lue> i thought it would be something like making the usb partition accessible via wifi...ftp like
Dec 30 18:58:08 <sampson> ...no
Dec 30 18:58:22 <ice8lue> is there a way to do so?
Dec 30 18:58:36 <ice8lue> different than sftp
Dec 30 18:58:57 <sampson> no
Dec 30 18:59:05 <Loudergood> heh, I think you can setup a debian chroot and use samba ;)
Dec 30 18:59:13 <sampson> you can use novaterm to push files out
Dec 30 19:00:18 <Loudergood> hmm..maybe that's something I can setup to use with modeswitcher...
Dec 30 19:02:37 <ice8lue> hmm
Dec 30 19:02:47 <ice8lue> maybe i should start to write an app for that
Dec 30 19:03:28 <ice8lue> something to make the usb drive available to wifi connected pcs
Dec 30 19:03:41 <ice8lue> as a network drive
Dec 30 19:08:38 <ice8lue> wouldn't it be possible to run samba on webos? so the app could be an UI to contorl the samba service
Dec 30 19:09:57 <destinal> ice8lue: well for now you could just install optware and ipkg-opt install samba
Dec 30 19:10:18 <destinal> but you'd have to edit the conf file by hand for now.  a UI to control it would be work someone would have to do
Dec 30 19:11:04 <ice8lue> I was looking for a good app to build up for some time now^^ think, that's a project worth the work
Dec 30 19:16:20 <destinal> ice8lue: awesome idea
Dec 30 19:19:32 <ice8lue> ok let's see how to talk to samba...
Dec 30 19:21:39 <Jack87> ice8lue,  that sounds awesome!
Dec 30 19:22:03 <Jack87> samba and win7 are a bitch sometimes... just heads up
Dec 30 19:23:00 <ice8lue> Jack87: why? I didn't use that combination before
Dec 30 19:23:05 <Loudergood> true, you have to set win7 to backwards compatible mode
Dec 30 19:23:16 <Loudergood> doesn't even work well with XP
Dec 30 19:23:50 <Jack87> Loudergood, i never had issues with xp luckily
Dec 30 19:24:01 <Jack87> ice8lue, win7 has that lame sharing thing
Dec 30 19:24:08 <ice8lue> =/ hmm not really user-friendly...
Dec 30 19:24:10 <Jack87> win7 sharing with xp sucks
Dec 30 19:24:17 <Jack87> Loudergood, oh is that what you ment?
Dec 30 19:24:18 <Jack87> haha
Dec 30 19:25:19 <ice8lue> well but building something which needs a client on pc side isn't that pleasing...
Dec 30 19:25:50 <ice8lue> although that would be the easiest method...
Dec 30 19:26:09 <Loudergood> well, I think windows 7 connecting to samba works fine
Dec 30 19:26:22 <Loudergood> pretty sure it's just the other way around that has issues
Dec 30 19:26:36 <ice8lue> Loudergood: think i will try that over the weekend
Dec 30 19:28:25 <ice8lue> netbook is installing ubuntu now^^
Dec 30 19:46:29 <blino> hello
Dec 30 19:46:45 <Jack87> Loudergood, ice8lue, yes win7 to sumba just fine
Dec 30 19:46:54 <Jack87> i guess thats all we need for the pre
Dec 30 19:47:37 <Jack87> ice8lue, best way to test is install guest win7 in ubuntu VM
Dec 30 19:47:55 <Jack87> i guess you can do two different computers. thats just what i needed it for the most
Dec 30 19:48:49 <ice8lue> well, i'm on a netbook atm^^ think having a win 7 in a vm is a little too much^^ will try that on saturday when i'm at home
Dec 30 19:49:19 <Jack87> ice8lue, 1 gig ram?
Dec 30 19:50:56 <ice8lue> 2gig ;)
Dec 30 19:51:14 <Jack87> :)
Dec 30 19:54:03 <ice8lue> well i'm using it for coding most of the time
Dec 30 19:54:08 <m0ngr31> is there a patch that will allow more than 5 icons in the quick launch bar?
Dec 30 19:54:15 <ice8lue> so 1gb was a little too less
Dec 30 19:54:54 <ice8lue> m0ngr21: no, i don't think so
Dec 30 19:59:03 <m0ngr31> ice8lue: i figured as much thanks
Dec 30 20:00:14 <ice8lue> np =)
Dec 30 20:37:45 <oil> Tibfib: ?
Dec 30 20:37:58 <ice8lue> is anyone using the new messaging plugins 2.6.0?
Dec 30 22:03:42 <lumines> o hai
Dec 30 22:05:00 <lumines> i have a problem with navit for the palm pixi. the interface only refreshs when i tab somewhere on the screen.
Dec 30 22:05:24 <lumines> i think this bug is pixi specific
Dec 30 22:06:27 <lumines> is there any bugtracker for navit for webos or something similar?
Dec 30 22:10:43 <crazyPenguin> Thanks PuffTheMagic and egaudet on the work on Freetether
Dec 30 22:18:18 <tmandry> has anyone kept up with the Qt port for webOS?
Dec 30 22:40:57 <b3ll> bam
Dec 30 22:42:47 <b3ll> dtzWill you here?
Dec 30 23:10:27 <destinal> rwhitby-pre: oil:  what was the debate a year ago in this channel regarding zenity?  I'm reading the logs but I'm not sure what was attempted and what the goal was and whether it was achieved or we went a different way
Dec 30 23:10:54 <destinal> guessing the latter since I hadn't seen it until now looking at some older stuff
Dec 30 23:17:33 <hape> lumines: Hi, you can only add it in the forum thrad.
Dec 30 23:18:27 <hape> lumines: But we know about it. At the moment we can not do anithing ybout it as we both do not have a Pixi, so we have no idea how to nail it donw,
Dec 30 23:42:29 <ice8lue> gnight guys!
Dec 30 23:43:05 <hape> n8 ice8lue
Dec 30 23:45:14 <ice8lue> nacht hape^^
Dec 31 00:05:54 <torchie> from what I understand you get a link to freetether upon donation?
Dec 31 00:09:13 <egaudet> torchie, who told you that
Dec 31 00:10:12 <halfhalo> sounds like mytether
Dec 31 00:10:40 <SineOt> yeah I was going to say, "probably the mytether people"
Dec 31 00:10:52 <torchie> wait a minute
Dec 31 00:10:58 <torchie> wwaaaaaaait a minute
Dec 31 00:11:31 <torchie> no really wait, my computer's taking a while to load the page
Dec 31 00:11:45 <egaudet> lol
Dec 31 00:12:18 <torchie> page(s) unresponsive
Dec 31 00:12:25 <torchie> argh I just wanna get the story straight
Dec 31 00:13:21 <destinal> torchie: what story is that?
Dec 31 00:14:15 <torchie> http://www.precentral.net/freetether-update-bring-wi-fi-tethering-masses
Dec 31 00:15:06 <Loudergood> read the end of the 4th paragraph
Dec 31 00:16:57 <gkatsev> and re-read the 5th paragraph
Dec 31 00:18:54 * torchie reread everything
Dec 31 00:51:52 <Jack87-Home> lol\
Dec 31 01:13:50 <rwhitby-pre> heh, as if we'd do the same sort of fake donationware that aonic did ...
Dec 31 01:16:52 <torchie> ;o
Dec 31 01:17:53 <destinal> PuffTheMagic: egaudet wow, seems like a lot of interest :)
Dec 31 01:42:34 <NachoB> does webOS 2.x still use palmdatabase.db3 as it's main storage of information?
Dec 31 02:29:48 <NachoB> does webOS 2.x still use palmdatabase.db3 as it's main storage of information?
Dec 31 02:34:11 <rwhitby-pre> NachoB: it does not
Dec 31 02:36:37 <NachoB> rwhitby-pre: Thanks Rod
Dec 31 02:38:54 <rwhitby-pre> db8 for most things. Run Impostah on a 2.0 device to check it out
Dec 31 02:39:20 <torchie> yikes that mobile hotspot ipk is a dastardly find
Dec 31 02:40:09 <NachoB> which directory would I look in for stored contacts?
Dec 31 02:41:39 <NachoB> I'm not able to run Impostah at the moment.
Dec 31 02:44:39 <egaudet> torchie, just wait for freetether
Dec 31 02:44:45 <oil> lol
Dec 31 02:45:38 <torchie> alright
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