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Jan 26 03:01:59 <PatrickC_Pre> does Qt allow you to write the app in Javascript and use it on the iPhone/Android/BBerry/Win Mobile?
Jan 26 03:06:01 <tmandry> PatrickC_Pre: it's a C++-based library. I know it has java bindings too though
Jan 26 03:06:13 <PatrickC_Pre> ok.
Jan 26 03:06:22 <PatrickC_Pre> thanks, I found their channel and went to it
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Jan 26 06:25:58 <MetaView> hi
Jan 26 06:26:50 <MetaView> anyone here with some knowledge about the patch submission portal?
Jan 26 06:28:43 * halfhalo hides
Jan 26 06:32:44 <cryptk> MetaView, whatcha need?
Jan 26 06:32:59 <ShaedS> now that i have used save/restore to save my messaging info... where is that information so i could copy it to my computer
Jan 26 06:33:19 <cryptk> it is in your USB drive on the phone in the saverestore folder
Jan 26 06:33:53 <ShaedS> ok thanks
Jan 26 06:34:09 <MetaView> cryptk: want to submit a 2.0 comp. patch version
Jan 26 06:35:24 <cryptk> ok, so you have a patch for 2.0... submut it like you normally would
Jan 26 06:35:32 <cryptk> s/submut/submit/
Jan 26 06:35:32 <infobot> cryptk meant: ok, so you have a patch for 2.0... submit it like you normally would
Jan 26 06:37:18 <MetaView> means it doesn't overwrite the 1.4.5 version,right?
Jan 26 06:37:43 <ShaedS> the timestamp... how do I convert this to a mmddyyHHmmss?
Jan 26 06:37:46 <MetaView> the ea-release is 2.0.1?
Jan 26 06:37:46 <cryptk> pretty sure
Jan 26 06:38:02 <cryptk> if you wanna be super safe you can just give it a different name, lol
Jan 26 06:38:12 <cryptk> I I am pretty sure it won't overwrite it
Jan 26 06:38:37 <MetaView> speaking about save/restore: it doesn't keep the device on, or?
Jan 26 06:38:40 <cryptk> because the pachages for the old one are already in the git, already built with AUPT, etc etc
Jan 26 06:39:01 <MetaView> ok, thx
Jan 26 06:39:03 <cryptk> MetaView, I wouldn't have any way of knowing or telling you anythign about the EA releases
Jan 26 06:39:25 <cryptk> ^^ hint hint^^ because it would be covered under an NDA
Jan 26 06:39:47 <MetaView> cryptk: right, and I have no knowledge about the existence too
Jan 26 06:39:51 <cryptk> saverestore does not alter the powerstate of the device, it will not turn it on if it is off, it will not turn it off if it is on
Jan 26 06:40:41 <MetaView> ok, then I ask it the other way around: Pre2 is webos 2.0.0?
Jan 26 06:41:55 <MetaView> cryptk: shouldn't saverestore not better switch on the device and keep it on?
Jan 26 06:42:08 <MetaView> screen off, but device on
Jan 26 06:43:16 <cryptk> why would saverestore turn the phone on?
Jan 26 06:43:40 <cryptk> MetaView, yes, the Pre2 is 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 (depending on if they have updated)
Jan 26 06:45:12 <cryptk> big yellow caller ID patched pushed to the builder
Jan 26 06:45:22 <cryptk> s/patched/patch/
Jan 26 06:45:22 <infobot> cryptk meant: big yellow caller ID patch pushed to the builder
Jan 26 06:47:38 <MetaView> cryptk: when I use the auto-save ftr in saverestore, and I set it to 4:15 AM, I would expect to have it done at 6AM, when I get up
Jan 26 06:48:38 <cryptk> MetaView, I don't know if it will re-do missed ones
Jan 26 06:48:45 <cryptk> is the phone actually off at 4:15?
Jan 26 06:54:22 <MetaView> yes
Jan 26 06:54:45 <MetaView> and it seems to start when the phone goes on
Jan 26 06:55:16 <cryptk> well, there is your answer then
Jan 26 06:55:28 <cryptk> it doesn't turn the phone on, but you said it runs when you turn it on
Jan 26 06:57:58 <MetaView> then what about a patch to have it wake the device?
Jan 26 07:23:17 <cryptk> Ets23Mprts@
Jan 26 07:23:28 <cryptk> lkanslQ23tnj2q8903tiaweg
Jan 26 07:23:31 <cryptk> blargh!
Jan 26 07:34:37 <cryptk> OIJHEGIOWEJHGNUIOWH@!@#$!
Jan 26 16:21:06 <RagingMind> since when did #webos-internals have more people in it than #webos?
Jan 26 16:21:17 <rick-work> frequently
Jan 26 16:21:22 <rick-work> a lot of the time.
Jan 26 16:21:27 <rick-work> This is where the actual action happens.
Jan 26 16:50:10 <ka6sox> mourning...today the temperature is a blamy 101.7deg with a forcast of clouds.
Jan 26 17:42:47 <ShaedS> yay, my first program
Jan 26 17:42:55 <ShaedS> it's the first program tutorial plus a decrease button
Jan 26 17:49:09 <destinal> ShaedS: nice
Jan 26 17:50:21 <ShaedS> my kaossilator is just a few hundred lines of code away
Jan 26 18:00:41 <sethron> anybody know why Backup stops automatically backing up?
Jan 26 20:27:10 <PatrickC_Pixi> can someone in the EAP please PM me
Jan 26 20:27:11 <PatrickC_Pixi> thanks
Jan 26 20:40:40 <cryptk> PatrickC_Pixi, I would like to point out that even the fact that someone is in the EAP is covered under the NDA
Jan 26 20:40:52 <PatrickC_Pixi> ok
Jan 26 20:41:07 <cryptk> I would also like to take the time to point out that several of the people in this channel work directly for HP/Palm
Jan 26 20:41:44 <PatrickC_Pixi> ok. I won't bring up it again. I don't want to get in trouble...
Jan 26 21:26:14 <Thevoid> Is it possible to run a meta'd doctor from ubuntu?
Jan 26 21:28:31 <MetaView> it#s java, or?
Jan 26 21:28:35 <MetaView> the doctor file
Jan 26 21:28:49 <Thevoid> its a .jar
Jan 26 21:28:49 <MetaView> a jar to be exact
Jan 26 21:29:09 <MetaView> should run from ubuntu too, why not?
Jan 26 21:29:17 <wgreenhouse> java doctor.jar
Jan 26 21:29:19 <wgreenhouse> yeah :)
Jan 26 21:29:21 <wgreenhouse> should work
Jan 26 21:29:31 <wgreenhouse> java -jar doctor.jar, I guess
Jan 26 21:29:36 <Thevoid> i followed all the instructions on the guide, but i cant get the file out of virtualbox on to windows, and when i try to run it in ubuntu, nothing happens
Jan 26 21:29:54 <MetaView> why did you make it in a virtual box?
Jan 26 21:30:04 <Thevoid> apologies, as i am not familiar with linux
Jan 26 21:30:06 <MetaView> runs fine on windows, after installing cygwin
Jan 26 21:30:57 <Thevoid> lol well i didnt find that guide
Jan 26 21:31:15 <MetaView> just a second
Jan 26 21:33:12 <Thevoid> http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-tips-information-resources/221385-cross-platform-meta-doctor-guide-bypass-carrier-activation-etc.html
Jan 26 21:33:20 <Thevoid> thats what i was following
Jan 26 21:34:03 <oil> make a shared folder between ubuntu in vbox and windows
Jan 26 21:34:10 <oil> cp doctor.jar to that folder
Jan 26 21:34:12 <oil> run it in windows
Jan 26 21:34:25 <oil> (directions on setting up the shared folder is on the internets)
Jan 26 21:34:29 <Thevoid> gave me an error: invalid protocol
Jan 26 21:37:24 <Thevoid> modprobe vboxvfs | mkdir ~/Desktop/guestOS/ | mount -t vboxsf hostOS ~/Desktop/guestOS/
Jan 26 21:37:50 <MetaView> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor#Using_Cygwin
Jan 26 21:37:51 <Thevoid> which was step 10 on the guide
Jan 26 21:38:21 <MetaView> I just added a remark on it
Jan 26 21:38:50 <Thevoid> hmm maybe if i put vboxfs instead of vboxsf
Jan 26 21:39:28 <Thevoid> nope, unknown filesystem type
Jan 26 21:43:20 <Thevoid> oh crap, im an idiot
Jan 26 21:43:26 <Thevoid> wrong folder name
Jan 26 21:44:02 <wgreenhouse> when hacking across 3 OSes--try not to get lost :)
Jan 26 21:44:18 <Thevoid> lol
Jan 26 21:46:26 <Thevoid> yay doctor is running
Jan 26 21:46:50 <Thevoid> all this just to get the radio tokens
Jan 26 21:48:31 <rwhitby> you can get the tokens using the Show Properties app
Jan 26 21:49:06 <Thevoid> yes, which you cant do if stuck on the first use app with no service ;)
Jan 26 21:49:49 <Thevoid> but thnk you
Jan 26 21:51:06 <destinal> Thevoid: well, you could have used the palm bypass tool before to get past all that
Jan 26 21:52:02 <Thevoid> at least this way, i learned soemthing and got to mess with linux
Jan 26 22:00:28 <Thevoid> why does the phone take so long to boot up?
Jan 26 22:00:35 <MetaView> g'morning rod
Jan 26 22:02:10 <Thevoid> the guide says to kiss him on the cheek...
Jan 26 22:03:56 <Thevoid> ok i still have the first use app coming up even though i set it not to in meta doctor
Jan 26 22:04:31 <Thevoid> i just double checked my makefile, and the correct options are selected
Jan 26 22:07:36 <MetaView> rod: I have a patch for saverestore...
Jan 26 22:14:52 <rwhitby> MetaView: got it, thans.
Jan 26 22:18:02 <MetaView> thx to you for this app :)
Jan 26 22:32:54 <PatrickC_Pre> hello webos-internals
Jan 26 22:48:09 <oil> yay, another s/r patch
Jan 26 22:48:50 <PatrickC_Pre> what?
Jan 26 22:48:52 <PatrickC_Pre> lol
Jan 27 02:50:46 <cwgtex> howdy all
Jan 27 02:52:49 <cwgtex> I just installed f14 kernel and rebooted.  It has been rebooting for at least 5 minutes, and is seems to be stuck on the palm logo (not glowing, just the initial one).
Jan 27 02:53:02 <PatrickC_Pixi> hi
Jan 27 02:53:05 <cwgtex> At what point should I try to restart the phone or do a battery pull
Jan 27 02:53:18 <PatrickC_Pixi> for what?
Jan 27 02:53:25 <PatrickC_Pixi>  
Jan 27 02:53:34 <SineOt> If you restart, you'll probably end up at the same point
Jan 27 02:53:56 <PatrickC_Pixi> what happened
Jan 27 02:54:00 <SineOt> This is a job for... MEMBOOT :U
Jan 27 02:54:06 <cwgtex> How long should I give it before I try some of the recovery options listed on the wiki?
Jan 27 02:54:09 <SineOt> Some kernels push the devices so far that some just simply won't boot
Jan 27 02:54:19 <cwgtex> aka memboot
Jan 27 02:54:39 <SineOt> Due to the fact that what one device can handle isn't always what another device can
Jan 27 02:54:48 <PatrickC_Pixi> if you plug it into the wall, it should scale down to 500 if it is on screenstate
Jan 27 02:54:50 <SineOt> cwgtex: if it's not blinking, I doubt that it's going to boot
Jan 27 02:55:03 <PatrickC_Pixi> pull battery
Jan 27 02:55:08 <PatrickC_Pixi> plug into wall
Jan 27 02:55:14 <PatrickC_Pixi> try booting up
Jan 27 02:55:20 <PatrickC_Pixi> it happens to me all the time
Jan 27 02:55:38 <PatrickC_Pixi> then remove kernel
Jan 27 02:56:09 <SineOt> cwgtex: what you should do though is boot the full kernel not the install one though, if you go the memboot route... Since you can just launch Preware and uninstall the F14 kernel
Jan 27 02:56:50 <PatrickC_Pixi> the f14? new kernel?
Jan 27 02:57:02 <SineOt> yeah
Jan 27 02:57:53 <PatrickC_Pixi> what does it clock it to?
Jan 27 02:59:10 <PatrickC_Pixi> sorry, going through bad coverahe
Jan 27 02:59:40 <cwgtex> Well I just did a battery pull and plugged it into the wall.  It booted, took 4 minutes.
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