**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 28 02:59:56 2011
Jan 28 03:13:01 <Toaster_> hi :)
Jan 28 03:13:36 <SineOt> hi
Jan 28 03:19:41 <Toaster_> if I go to 2.0.1 on a sprint pre should I use my original palm profile or go with a new one for now? I don't want to mess up my original profile.
Jan 28 03:20:19 <SineOt> where'd you get 2.0.1 for a Sprint Pre?
Jan 28 03:20:49 <Toaster_> I cant say sineOt
Jan 28 03:20:59 <SineOt> then you probably won't get an answer
Jan 28 03:21:09 <rwhitby> either (a) you got it by someone breaking an NDA, in which case it is off-topic here, or (b) you got it through early access, in which case the early access doco answers that question
Jan 28 03:21:27 <TheVoid> Well, i have 2 pres that refuse to enter recovery mode
Jan 28 03:21:34 <SineOt> or you'll get that answer. I like mine better, more mysterious that way~
Jan 28 03:21:58 <TheVoid> What is the most reliable method to enter recovery mode?
Jan 28 03:22:12 <Toaster_> Well I got it from HP's website not like they tried to hide it either lol
Jan 28 03:22:23 <bpadalino> pull battery, volume up, connect usb - i like that one
Jan 28 03:22:58 <TheVoid> that method gives me a big no battery symbol
Jan 28 03:23:04 <rwhitby> Toaster_: I strongly doubt that you got it from a public release site. No lol.
Jan 28 03:23:28 <TheVoid> its almost like the volume up button isnt registering, except it works fine in the OS
Jan 28 03:23:31 <halfhalo> the non public site was googlefied
Jan 28 03:23:35 <jhowirc> yeah lol that
Jan 28 03:23:41 <Toaster_> Alright I don't want to cause problems I'll stick with the rules. :)
Jan 28 03:23:58 <rwhitby> TheVoid: recovery page on our wiki, follow the steps exactly.
Jan 28 03:25:26 <TheVoid> Ok so the USB cable MUST be connected for it to work?
Jan 28 03:26:25 <rwhitby> the procedure is pretty specific, yes.
Jan 28 03:27:26 <TheVoid> ah ok that did it
Jan 28 03:27:44 <TheVoid> now to swap the coms board again! thought i fried the volume buttons
Jan 28 03:29:28 <TheVoid> gets really easy after doing it umpteen times, except for the diversity antenna connector
Jan 28 03:29:48 <bpadalino> who needs diversity?
Jan 28 03:30:00 <TheVoid> lol
Jan 28 03:30:19 <Loudergood> few more weeks and I'll be doing that
Jan 28 03:31:18 <TheVoid> Loudergood: the pre plus swap?
Jan 28 03:31:23 <rwhitby> TheVoid: you know you should swap the antenna backplate as well, right?
Jan 28 03:31:43 <TheVoid> between verizon and sprint?
Jan 28 03:31:52 <Loudergood> actually preplus coms board into a pre2 ;)
Jan 28 03:32:09 <TheVoid> ah
Jan 28 03:33:11 <TheVoid> i saw that gsm to cdma you need to swap the antennas, but not cdma to cdma, is this not correct?
Jan 28 03:35:34 <Loudergood> that I don't know
Jan 28 03:37:21 <rwhitby> TheVoid: cdma to cdma should be fine, but you can save having to remove the antenna cables if you swap the backplate too
Jan 28 03:37:49 <rwhitby> the volume keys are much easier to get on and off than the antenna cables
Jan 28 03:42:18 <TheVoid> ok sprint board on pre plus, runningmeta'd doctor
Jan 28 04:01:11 <TheVoid> doctor is failing at 4%, usb symbol goes away on phone display, after a few minutes it says the phone disconnected
Jan 28 04:02:19 <rwhitby> TheVoid: watch the doctor log, and unplug and replug the phone at the right time based on that (when it is looking for the phone to reconnect)
Jan 28 04:02:57 <TheVoid> how do i get a log? run it from command line?
Jan 28 04:05:49 <rwhitby> that'll do it
Jan 28 04:05:58 <rwhitby> java -jar ...
Jan 28 04:10:19 <TheVoid> that got it going, thanks man
Jan 28 04:10:54 <rwhitby> TheVoid: please add that to the recovery wiki page
Jan 28 04:12:28 <TheVoid> sure thing, once it finishes
Jan 28 04:17:04 <cwgtex> rwhitby:  was swapping the backplate required?
Jan 28 04:18:11 <cwgtex> back when i did mine (sprint comms board, att pre+) the cdma comms board worked 100% with the gsm backplate, I just had to route the wires around so they would fit
Jan 28 04:19:41 <rwhitby> cwgtex: right, so now you have an antenna path which is not as it was designed.
Jan 28 04:20:28 <TheVoid> cwgtex: hows the reception?
Jan 28 04:21:40 <cwgtex> worked great
Jan 28 04:21:57 <cwgtex> i have a pre2 now but the sprint pre+ still works great
Jan 28 04:22:22 <cwgtex> if I was doing it again i would swap the backplates to make it neater, but it does work
Jan 28 04:22:25 <TheVoid> sweet, pre plus on sprint complete
Jan 28 04:22:39 <TheVoid> (vz pre plus)
Jan 28 04:22:52 <cwgtex> the extra cable length on the gsm backplate does make it a little trickier
Jan 28 04:23:16 <cwgtex> but when i did mine i had not heard about swapping the backplate with the comms board
Jan 28 04:23:49 <TheVoid> no offense, but kind of a logical thing
Jan 28 04:23:58 <TheVoid> gsm antenna, gsm comms
Jan 28 04:24:07 <TheVoid> cdma antenna, cdma comms
Jan 28 04:24:38 <TheVoid> but as long as it worked, whatever
Jan 28 04:24:41 <TheVoid> lol
Jan 28 04:25:10 <cwgtex> and the signal is just as strong/weak in the same areas as it was before
Jan 28 04:25:54 <cwgtex> 4-5 bars in location a, before and after. 1-2 bars in location b, before and after.
Jan 28 04:27:40 <cwgtex> just because you don't use the exact antenna that was designed for a device, doesn't mean its wrong
Jan 28 04:27:59 <cwgtex> look at all the antenna mods that people make for their wireless routers
Jan 28 04:28:15 <cwgtex> some even use foil
Jan 28 04:29:59 <wgreenhouse> man, my router does *not* have the range of my old wrt54g
Jan 28 04:32:13 <cwgtex> but i will say again, if i was to do it again, i would swap backplates to avoid the hassle of making the longer gsm wires fit
Jan 28 04:35:19 <cwgtex> i did mine back in august and have had zero problems from it
Jan 28 04:36:31 <cwgtex> i have never dropped a call on my sprint pre or pre+, but as soon as i got a pre2 i had dropped calls
Jan 28 04:36:37 <cwgtex> at least 1 a week
Jan 28 04:37:51 <cwgtex> also, before and after i plussed my pre i did 20 speed tests, and had almost the same avg speed
Jan 28 04:39:17 <TheVoid> interesting
Jan 28 04:39:34 <TheVoid> was this stock webos, stock clock speeds?
Jan 28 04:40:40 <cwgtex> I believe uberkernel at 720
Jan 28 04:41:13 <cwgtex> i meant data speed test btw
Jan 28 04:41:18 <cwgtex> evdo speed
Jan 28 04:41:48 <cwgtex> no noticeable difference in evdo data speed between a cdma and gsm antenna
Jan 28 04:42:09 <PatrickC_Pre> hay guys
Jan 28 04:42:19 <TheVoid> yes, i know
Jan 28 04:43:06 <cwgtex> i did a few more test at default palm speed, but it was so close i didn't bother doing 20 more tests
Jan 28 04:43:50 <cwgtex> i believe i used www.mobilespeedtest.com
Jan 28 04:52:52 <TheVoid> not worth the data usage
Jan 28 04:53:42 <PatrickC_Pre> using that site, I am getting about 2439 KBPS
Jan 28 04:54:04 <cwgtex> run several test with different packet sizes
Jan 28 04:54:51 <PatrickC_Pre> I did
Jan 28 04:55:04 <cwgtex> very nice where do you get that speed at
Jan 28 04:55:16 <PatrickC_Pre> it hangs around 2000, unless I do the 5MB test, then its about 1600
Jan 28 04:55:18 <PatrickC_Pre> wifi
Jan 28 04:55:27 <cwgtex> oh haha
Jan 28 04:55:30 <cwgtex> of course
Jan 28 04:55:43 <cwgtex> on evdo i average 400-600 kbps
Jan 28 04:55:45 <PatrickC_Pre> I'll try it on 3G
Jan 28 04:55:52 <cwgtex> in san antonio tx
Jan 28 04:56:17 <PatrickC_Pre> I'm in the nashvile area
Jan 28 04:56:18 <cwgtex> i am definitely ready for a "4G" palm device
Jan 28 04:56:29 <cwgtex> if its wimax on sprint im gonna renew that contract
Jan 28 04:56:43 <PatrickC_Pre> with an Ariev in my house (personal cell tower)
Jan 28 04:56:46 <destinal> cwgtex: ack we have to stop the "plus my pre" thing for comm swaps when people mean "sprintify my pre+"
Jan 28 04:56:47 <cwgtex> if not im gonna switch to whoever
Jan 28 04:57:18 <cwgtex> destinal: yes you are right, i've just heard it the first way too many times its hard to stop
Jan 28 04:58:49 <destinal> cwgtex: though I have a damage vzw pre+ en route to me and plan to use its system board to upgrade a pre  (while using the case, lcd, camera, keyboard, etc of the pre.  could that be considered +'ing a pre?
Jan 28 04:58:51 <PatrickC_Pre> when I did the 500KB test, it was about 90
Jan 28 04:59:04 <PatrickC_Pre> 700KBPS, then I did the 1MB test
Jan 28 04:59:14 <PatrickC_Pre> and got 1200+/-KBPS
Jan 28 04:59:59 <rwhitby> destinal: "plus my pre" is just another indicator of the consumer's focus on the carrier, not the device.
Jan 28 05:01:03 <cwgtex> good speeds patrick
Jan 28 05:01:10 <cwgtex> not nearly as good here
Jan 28 05:01:14 <PatrickC_Pre> yep
Jan 28 05:01:20 <destinal> rwhitby: good point.  ever done an omap board swap between + and pre?  I assume everything should just work, modulo the usual comm board swap steps since effectively the system is getting a new comm board along with the sprint pre- chassis..  what do you think
Jan 28 05:01:35 <cwgtex> when i go down to the beach in corpus christi i usally avg over 800 kbps though
Jan 28 05:01:44 <PatrickC_Pre> well, I have a mini cell tower providing me perfect ful-coverage 3G speeds in my house
Jan 28 05:02:06 <rwhitby> destinal: I personally would avoid separating the omap board and the display components. looked difficult to me.
Jan 28 05:02:27 <destinal> well, I guess I'll find out.  this one has a destroyed LCD
Jan 28 05:02:45 <rwhitby> at least you can practice on that one first
Jan 28 05:02:54 <PatrickC_Pre> I just did the test again and got BPS :P
Jan 28 05:03:20 <rwhitby> destinal: since it's the bits connected to the display which are at most risk of damage, not the omap board
Jan 28 05:03:30 <PatrickC_Pre> 286 KBPS lol
Jan 28 05:05:26 <PatrickC_Pre> wow 1421KBPS
Jan 28 05:05:40 <PatrickC_Pre> lol, now you got me into checking my speeds :P
Jan 28 05:05:52 <cwgtex> rwhitby: i meant no disrespect earlier with the backplate issue, i agree that it is probably better to swap the backplate with the cdma comms board (mainly for antenna wire length), but it will work with a gsm backplate
Jan 28 05:05:56 <destinal> rwhitby: though TBH I'm not sure if the omap board survived on this one either since the device had a great fall, landing on the screen / front part.  I'll try powering it first and watching usb to see if the omap3 shows up before I bother.
Jan 28 05:06:41 <rwhitby> cwgtex: it will work with a rusty coat-hanger.
Jan 28 05:07:11 <cwgtex> rwhitby: yeah that wouldn't fit in the pocket too well :)
Jan 28 05:07:34 <destinal> rwhitby: shouldn't antenna be cut to wavelength for best performance?
Jan 28 05:08:20 <destinal> then again GSM is multifrequency, so not sure if that makes sense
Jan 28 05:08:45 <rwhitby> destinal: yep, you'll notice the tracks on the PCB are length matched by wiggling the traces too
Jan 28 05:08:54 <destinal> rwhitby: ah
Jan 28 05:09:28 <bpadalino> antennas are just crazy black magic
Jan 28 05:10:18 <destinal> analog circuits and especially RF is slightly overwhelming, I try to stay in my digital world :)
Jan 28 05:10:47 <destinal> much easier abstractions that way
Jan 28 05:11:10 <bpadalino> yeah, half of my education was learning all about '0' .. the other half, '1' .. boom - digitally educated
Jan 28 05:12:49 <cwgtex> yeah there is a big difference between an antenna's physical length and the length the system sees
Jan 28 05:13:48 <cwgtex> they use coils and capacitors to "electrically lengthen" the antenna
Jan 28 05:15:07 <bpadalino> something about matching networks and smith charts
Jan 28 05:24:45 * wgreenhouse just usb-tethered his Debian netbook to his pre+.  so cool!
Jan 28 05:29:35 <scoutcamper> rwhitby, im almost tempted to try a coat hanger antenna :D
Jan 28 05:30:03 <PatrickC_Pre> lol
Jan 28 05:32:04 <cwgtex> well im out for then night yall take it easy
Jan 28 06:24:33 <TheVoid> well i have sprinted my rpe plus and vzw'd my pre
Jan 28 10:28:24 <KittyHello> hi. Is there a way to read the battery level?
Jan 28 10:28:33 <KittyHello> like: 50%
Jan 28 16:06:37 <RagingMind> Ug... phone became unstable with uberkernel again :(
Jan 28 20:28:44 <muesli> meh. today my palm crashed... since then rebooting stops at the Palm logo (it doesn't even start to flash)... webosdoctor aborts at 2% or 8%
Jan 28 20:29:04 <muesli> i'd appreciate any clues / ideas... but i guess i'll have to return it
Jan 28 20:29:10 <sharkfanwebOS201> destinal on?
Jan 28 20:47:17 <MetaView> muesli: charge the phone and then try doctoring again
Jan 28 20:47:56 <muesli> MetaView: tried it with two different batteries. the question remains tho: how would you charge it at this state?
Jan 28 20:48:05 <muesli> as soon as i connect it to the plug it freezes
Jan 28 20:48:18 <muesli> (well it tries to startup and freezes)
Jan 28 20:49:59 <MetaView> hm
Jan 28 20:54:51 <RagingMind> no clue about the Pre, but I know with iPod touches they will charge when plugged in, even if nothing shows on the screen
Jan 28 20:55:25 <muesli> well as soon as i plug it in it'll try to start up
Jan 28 20:56:29 <RagingMind> I imagine it should still charge, it'll just be in limbo while doing it
Jan 28 21:05:55 <thevoid> muesli: what problem are you having with doctor?
Jan 28 21:06:34 <muesli> well in general: phone doesn't boot up anymore. shows palm logo - goes blank - palm logo again - repeat
Jan 28 21:06:38 <muesli> so i tried to doctor it
Jan 28 21:07:07 <muesli> it either stops at 2% (telling me it couldn't flash my phone) or at 8% (telling me the phone was disconnected)
Jan 28 21:07:25 <thevoid> ok try running doctor from the command line
Jan 28 21:07:36 <thevoid> it will tell you more about what is happening
Jan 28 21:07:39 <muesli> i did. any cli params?
Jan 28 21:07:56 <thevoid> just java -jar
Jan 28 21:07:58 <muesli> i can see it sending data to the phone (very very slowly)
Jan 28 21:08:10 <muesli> at some point it'll tell me "Flashing failed"
Jan 28 21:08:21 <thevoid> i had this problem last night while sprinting my pre plus
Jan 28 21:08:57 <muesli> how did you resolve it?
Jan 28 21:09:23 <sconix> At least I had to once keep holding the volume up button until the flash process got over that 8% otherwise it told that my pre disconnected. Really did not know why but it got the doctoring to success so I was happy.
Jan 28 21:09:27 <thevoid> ok you are able to reach recovery mode?
Jan 28 21:09:53 <thevoid> do you get the icon on screen that looks like a chip?
Jan 28 21:10:01 <muesli> as mentioned it stops at 2% usually - before the palm logo even shows up on screen
Jan 28 21:10:14 <sconix> did you hold the volume up when the phone booted?
Jan 28 21:10:21 <thevoid> ok and what does the CLI say at that point
Jan 28 21:10:22 <muesli> thevoid: nah, i'm still seeing the usb-connectivity icon at that point
Jan 28 21:11:40 <muesli> sec redoing it
Jan 28 21:13:06 <thevoid> didnt get a chance to update the wiki last night, hopefully get a chance this weekend
Jan 28 21:13:07 <muesli> sconix: i did
Jan 28 21:13:32 <muesli> sconix: otherwise i wasn't able to get started with doctoring
Jan 28 21:13:42 <sconix> at least you could try holding it longer as I said it helped me once
Jan 28 21:14:04 <muesli> thevoid: takes a while. usually 5 minutes till it fails
Jan 28 21:14:12 <muesli> it's really slow transferring the data... ~8kb /s
Jan 28 21:14:29 <thevoid> is it making the ramdisk yet?
Jan 28 21:14:35 <muesli> yeah
Jan 28 21:14:40 <muesli> INFO: Loading Ramdisk: leftToWrite 11486574
Jan 28 21:14:51 <thevoid> and does it ever finish making it
Jan 28 21:14:55 <muesli> nah
Jan 28 21:15:09 <muesli> usually aborts after a few minutes with 1000000 bytes left or so
Jan 28 21:15:38 <thevoid> hmm
Jan 28 21:15:52 <thevoid> what did you do to the phone?
Jan 28 21:16:19 <muesli> nothing. it crashed today while browsing my contacts
Jan 28 21:16:26 <muesli> ever since i didn't manage to reboot it
Jan 28 21:17:03 <thevoid> any software modifications?
Jan 28 21:17:20 <muesli> well the usual preware stuff
Jan 28 21:17:36 <thevoid> like uberkernel etc
Jan 28 21:17:53 <muesli> nothing special, really. it's my gf's palm
Jan 28 21:18:04 <thevoid> what carrier?
Jan 28 21:18:07 <muesli> possibly to be honest. even tho i got that running on other palms just fine
Jan 28 21:18:16 <muesli> certainly not overclocked it tho
Jan 28 21:18:20 <muesli> o2 germany
Jan 28 21:19:00 <thevoid> sounds like you might need a new phone, but someone correct me if im wrong
Jan 28 21:19:05 <muesli> thevoid: http://paste.kde.org/3577/
Jan 28 21:19:08 <muesli> thevoid: i guess so, yeah
Jan 28 21:19:16 <PatrickC_Pre> hello guys
Jan 28 21:19:23 <thevoid> hi
Jan 28 21:19:36 <PatrickC_Pre> how's it goin?
Jan 28 21:19:51 * PatrickC_Pre will be lurking. has school to do ;(
Jan 28 21:23:54 <sconix> muesli: you should try to restart your PC if you haven't and reinstall the novacom drivers that might help
Jan 28 21:24:34 <sconix> should=could
Jan 28 21:24:35 <PatrickC_Pre> what's up?
Jan 28 21:25:00 <thevoid> PatrickC_Pre: http://paste.kde.org/3577/
Jan 28 21:26:01 <PatrickC_Pre> I didn't understand any of that lol
Jan 28 21:28:33 <thevoid> muesli: its saying there is a memory error, which could mean a hardware issue in the memory. not common but it happens
Jan 28 21:28:43 <thevoid> do you have any osrt of warranty?
Jan 28 21:30:41 <muesli> it should be fine i hope... it's less than a year old
Jan 28 21:30:49 <muesli> (and already replaced before... meh)
Jan 28 21:32:12 <thevoid> what was it last time?
Jan 28 21:32:39 <muesli> random crashes
Jan 28 21:33:02 <muesli> kept rebooting x-times a day... while on the phone, while texting, while just being in stand-by
Jan 28 21:33:05 <thevoid> sounds like you are having bad luck
Jan 28 21:33:15 <muesli> well... my palm is actually just fine
Jan 28 21:33:20 <muesli> it's a bit weird
Jan 28 21:33:25 <muesli> i have a bunch of friends with palms
Jan 28 21:33:33 <muesli> and everyone's palm seems like a totally different device
Jan 28 21:33:52 <thevoid> all webos?
Jan 28 21:33:56 <muesli> mine just behaves fine... my gf's palm keeps crashing and rebooting. another friend's palm just falls apart when you look at it
Jan 28 21:34:10 <muesli> the fourth one doesn't like overclocking at all
Jan 28 21:34:18 <muesli> thevoid: yeah all palm pre (non-plus)
Jan 28 21:34:39 <thevoid> all GSM i assume, being germany
Jan 28 21:34:44 <muesli> i'd say the build-quality was a disaster to put it bluntly. let's hope hp knows how to fix that :)
Jan 28 21:34:46 <muesli> yeah
Jan 28 21:35:11 <thevoid> ive read that they had problems with consistancy
Jan 28 21:35:45 <muesli> yeah i can definitely confirm  that ;-)
Jan 28 21:35:55 <thevoid> i have a refurbished pre plus with great build quality, and a rather worn pre
Jan 28 21:36:10 <thevoid> slide is difficult and has the oreo effect
Jan 28 21:36:22 <thevoid> but works great otherwise
Jan 28 21:36:41 <thevoid> took both apart and back together for coms board swap
Jan 28 21:37:05 <muesli> yeah it's funny... i got one of the very first palms over here and i never had any issues with it
Jan 28 21:37:15 <muesli> the younger the phone tho, the more problems occur
Jan 28 21:42:12 <PatrickC_Pre> my 8th or 9th pixi just arrived at Sprint. I have to go pick it up soon
Jan 28 21:42:45 <thevoid> wow not like the pixi has moving parts like the pre
Jan 28 21:43:03 <PatrickC_Pre> I know! lol
Jan 28 21:43:11 <thevoid> so what gives
Jan 28 21:43:32 <PatrickC_Pre> KB issues, mic issues, speaker issues
Jan 28 21:43:35 <PatrickC_Pre> ect
Jan 28 21:43:49 <PatrickC_Pre> power button
Jan 28 21:43:57 <PatrickC_Pre> tons of stuff lol
Jan 28 21:44:23 <PatrickC_Pre> can't wait for the Pre3 for Sprint!! (hint hint if anyone from Palm is here lol)
Jan 28 21:44:38 <Loudergood> man I haven't even lost the usb door on my pre plus..I feel lucky
Jan 28 21:45:10 <PatrickC_Pre> my dad had the screen crack by the USB door twice!
Jan 28 21:45:23 <PatrickC_Pre> he has to get his 4/5 one soon
Jan 28 21:45:31 <PatrickC_Pre> he has a Sprint Pfe
Jan 28 21:45:37 <PatrickC_Pre> Pre lol
Jan 28 21:46:27 <PatrickC_Pre> then I have a Pre+ dev phone
Jan 28 21:51:05 <thevoid> i dont understand how you all crack the area around the usb
Jan 28 21:51:35 <PatrickC_Pre> don't ask me lol
Jan 28 21:51:42 <PatrickC_Pre> I think he dropped it :)
Jan 28 21:51:48 <thevoid> so i got a speedtest result of 6987kbps last night
Jan 28 21:51:58 <thevoid> on my pre+
Jan 28 21:52:26 <thevoid> but it averages around 4500 max
Jan 28 21:52:29 <thevoid> over wifi
Jan 28 21:53:04 <thevoid> gets around 3500 at stock clocks
Jan 28 21:53:42 <PatrickC_Pre> I got about 2500-2900 over wifi at stock
Jan 28 21:53:52 <PatrickC_Pre> we have 3MB download on the desktop
Jan 28 21:55:11 <thevoid> yea this was over FIOS, 35/35
Jan 28 21:55:22 <PatrickC_Pre> oh ok
Jan 28 21:56:23 <PatrickC_Pre> does anyone know the regular android channel?
Jan 28 21:56:24 <PatrickC_Pre> thankd
Jan 28 21:56:58 <PatrickC_Pre> google was of no help.. (the channel they gave me didn't work)
Jan 28 22:01:44 <PatrickC_Pre> do people in Germany have a Per App charge to put apps into the catalog?
Jan 28 22:26:16 <luisdavid> Does anyboy knows a way to enable the usb mode while leaving the phone online?
Jan 28 22:35:19 <luisdavid> Does anybody knows a way to enable the usb mode while leaving the phone online?
Jan 28 22:36:48 <bpadalino> you could get in via novaterm instead of putting it in mass storage mode
Jan 28 22:38:18 <luisdavid> how can i do it?
Jan 28 22:39:32 <luisdavid> i see a runnig process called usb_mass_storag but can't locate the file or module on the disk
Jan 28 22:44:43 <bpadalino> novaterm is how you communicate in developer mode
Jan 28 22:45:39 <luisdavid> but how do i enable the usb drive emulation? i already can log into the phone
Jan 28 22:47:34 <bpadalino> you use novacom put/get to do things with the filesystem
Jan 28 22:49:37 <luisdavid> ok, i see it, but what i want is to find a way to enable the usb drive emulation and keep my phone online so i could plug it in my car as a portable media drive and still being able to recive or make calls
Jan 28 22:50:18 <bpadalino> i don't know, sorry
Jan 28 22:50:42 <luisdavid> thanks anyway
Jan 28 22:51:05 <bpadalino> good luck
Jan 28 22:51:36 <luisdavid> tnx
Jan 28 22:54:40 <tmandry> rwhitby: There aren't really any changes that need to be made to Qt itself to make it work, you just have to invoke programs like this:
Jan 28 22:55:15 <tmandry> rwhitby: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=path/to/qt/libs QT_NO_GLIB=1 QWS_DISPLAY=palmpresdlfb ./my-qt-application -qws
Jan 28 22:56:45 <tmandry> rwhitby: the QT_NO_GLIB was the one that we (I?) didn't have, and it seems to be because Qt's glib plugin doesn't play nicely with palm's implementation of SDL/glib
Jan 28 23:15:58 <Jack87> hey is there a write up about the widk
Jan 28 23:16:15 <Jack87> how to install/use
Jan 28 23:16:55 <Loudergood> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Internals_PDK
Jan 28 23:17:46 <Jack87> thanks
Jan 28 23:17:59 <Jack87> i think swisstomcat had something to he wrote
Jan 28 23:18:54 <Loudergood> he probably did..he writes lots of handy stuff
Jan 28 23:23:59 * Jack87 needs to find it lol
Jan 28 23:27:55 <Jack87> anyone have any idea where
Jan 28 23:29:10 <Jack87> dtzWill, any insight?
Jan 28 23:38:18 <Jack87> destinal, ping
Jan 29 00:09:43 <destinal> Jack87|Away: pong
Jan 29 02:08:38 <azakus> hey everybody, something i've been putting off for awhile
Jan 29 02:08:44 <azakus> anyone interested in taking jstop over?
Jan 29 02:08:45 <SineOt> yeah?
Jan 29 02:38:34 <oil> azakus: moving on from webos development?
Jan 29 02:39:23 <rwhitby> azakus: we can take it on.
Jan 29 02:46:27 <azakus> haha, no, I'm joining the framework team at HP Palm
Jan 29 02:46:34 <azakus> in two weeks
Jan 29 02:46:44 <bpadalino> congrats
Jan 29 02:47:49 <Loudergood> nice
Jan 29 02:52:24 <azakus> yeah, i interned there over the summer, and I guess they wanted me back
Jan 29 02:52:39 <SineOt> well congrats :3
Jan 29 02:52:53 <oil> awesome
Jan 29 02:53:16 <oil> but yeah, if it breaks we'll fix it for ya :)
Jan 29 02:59:38 <rwhitby> oil: especially while we need it to restart wIRC plugin all the time ;)
Jan 29 02:59:47 <oil> haha
Jan 29 02:59:48 <oil> yeah
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