**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 11 02:59:57 2011 Feb 11 03:10:25 hey Feb 11 03:14:13 i wanna be a WHE when i grow up :) Feb 11 03:15:03 nintendo makes that already :-P Feb 11 03:15:15 ~whe Feb 11 03:15:16 hmm... whe is a WebOS Hacker Extraordinaire, which is what Joshua Topolsky called zsoc after he typed "make" one time... Feb 11 03:15:51 lol'd @contradude Feb 11 03:16:08 idontwan2know: I know what it really means. just trying to be funny Feb 11 03:19:57 hey all Feb 11 03:20:05 trying to add feeds to my preware via commandline Feb 11 03:20:13 webos quick install can't find my phone Feb 11 03:20:18 does that mean reinstall novacmd ? Feb 11 03:20:42 it could. I would first just try resetting it. Feb 11 03:20:54 JaridKG just a quick restart ? Feb 11 03:21:05 and check developer mode Feb 11 03:21:10 make sure it's on Feb 11 03:21:25 ^what he said Feb 11 03:24:29 I'm new to irc stuff. can you change your name color? Feb 11 03:28:08 thanks Feb 11 03:28:09 restart worked Feb 11 03:28:24 glad to hear it! Feb 11 03:28:58 yep Feb 11 03:29:18 wierd webos quickinstall 3.14 has command line option Feb 11 03:29:25 4.03 dosent Feb 11 03:29:32 yeah sometimes it gets funny Feb 11 03:29:37 bbs Feb 11 03:29:38 if in doubt, restart it! Feb 11 03:58:13 evening is thibaud in here tonight Feb 11 03:58:19 can anyone confirm that the battery on the Pre3 is removable? Feb 11 04:07:21 Josef_B: 3.14 command line never worked properly. Use novaterm instead Feb 11 04:09:29 I'm getting an error building WIDK apparently http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/trunk/TMP/st/elementary doesn't exist anymore Feb 11 04:10:52 are you trying to build things that use it? Feb 11 04:11:23 no, it's just getting built under make stage Feb 11 04:12:15 what's the recommended way to disable things in the build, I'm not all that familiar with building large projects to be honest Feb 11 04:13:42 Is there a way to put more themes on preware? Feb 11 04:13:46 then what comes with ti Feb 11 04:13:48 it* Feb 11 04:15:23 Anyone on here? Feb 11 04:16:02 enable them in the manage feeds screen, like it says on the splash screen that you tapped "Yes, I've read this" on Feb 11 04:16:23 I click enable themes? Feb 11 04:16:35 how many themes do you see? Feb 11 04:16:41 Just 13. Feb 11 04:16:43 On preware. Feb 11 04:16:52 But on the precentral site there are a lot more Feb 11 04:17:00 right, go into manage feeds and enable the theme feeds Feb 11 04:17:09 sweet Feb 11 04:17:10 thanks man Feb 11 04:17:23 just be warned that those take a long time to load, because there's a ton of them Feb 11 04:17:30 yeah I figured they would Feb 11 04:17:46 Should I enable prethemer or precentral themes? Feb 11 04:17:47 or both? Feb 11 04:17:56 your choice Feb 11 04:18:07 Okie doke Feb 11 04:18:09 I appreciate it Feb 11 04:20:13 well...when in doubt...gut it out. Feb 11 04:21:55 word. Feb 11 04:23:25 and by it, I mean the code that didn't build ;) Feb 11 05:31:50 Loudergood: the code moved int he svn repo Feb 11 05:31:55 its direclty int runk now Feb 11 05:31:57 trunk Feb 11 06:08:47 <_maurice_> #openwrt Feb 11 07:08:54 Thibaud: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/SIP+Authentication (what is a realm) Feb 11 07:55:25 Heyho Feb 11 08:28:30 Anyone read the Ruby interview on engadget? A couple interesting things in there. Feb 11 08:32:18 Specifically the tease for "music synergy" Feb 11 08:32:31 And the news that phones will eventually move to 3.0 Feb 11 08:34:08 Maybe I invented it in my head, but I had the impression that the phone and tablet OSes would stay on separate tracks. Feb 11 08:37:47 That would make it pretty much certain that the gesture area is going to disappear. Feb 11 08:49:40 xaiki: thanks for the link. As you probably saw, there is something about this realm stuff in the register section but it is dead code as for now. Feb 11 10:03:35 heya Feb 11 10:21:01 * ajay_ is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] Feb 11 10:22:14 * ajay_ is back from the dead. Gone 0 hrs 1 min 13 secs Feb 11 10:26:22 i am curious if i should be scared to see how logs have gone for the last day and a half Feb 11 10:30:53 has anyone tried to frankenpre to Vz? (yes I know it's coming, but what else should i do with my free pre2?) Feb 11 10:38:50 * ajay_ is posting a 'missed connection' for someone he met at the dev event last night ;^) Feb 11 11:06:11 rwhitby: some surprisingly blunt quotes in that article you just tweeted Feb 11 11:10:02 * ajay_ is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] Feb 11 11:10:29 * ajay_ is back from the dead. Gone 0 hrs 0 min 27 secs Feb 11 11:21:01 * ajay_ is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] Feb 11 11:22:06 * ajay_ is back from the dead. Gone 0 hrs 1 min 5 secs Feb 11 11:38:59 alright, see ya later sleeping beauties Feb 11 14:37:23 greetings from the maemo land. where might I find the webOS community on the web? is there a dominant site or forum you use? Feb 11 14:38:17 precentral.net Feb 11 14:38:43 there are others, but that's the biggest one Feb 11 14:39:55 ok, thanks Feb 11 14:40:51 no problem Feb 11 14:41:13 if you're a developer, the palm developer forums are the other big one Feb 11 14:42:15 just read something nice Feb 11 14:42:33 HP hears you on the OTA update issue, working on "something to make things right" Feb 11 14:42:37 ? Feb 11 14:43:09 not a developer, more like a power user and a linux geek Feb 11 14:43:39 still - gotta check out that too... Feb 11 14:48:30 joe_pre: i'm gonna wait to be excited about that until I know what it is Feb 11 14:48:53 for all we know it could be a $10 credit in the app store Feb 11 14:50:13 joe_pre: It's probably a rebate for a new HP phone. Feb 11 14:50:28 but I'm only guessing. Feb 11 14:51:23 scoinva: better then nothing Feb 11 14:51:49 that's the logical conclusion, considering they called it "a path to 2.0" Feb 11 15:00:02 where path could be defined as "there's the road, there's a sprint store down the street, go buy a new phone" Feb 11 15:00:55 this is why i want carriers divorced from hardware, and it's sad to say apple is the champion of that cause Feb 11 15:01:21 how do you figure? Feb 11 15:01:43 only this week was one of their devices available on multiple carriers Feb 11 15:02:04 back when they started the iphone they used their name to bully at&t into accepting some pretty radical terms (in the cell phone world) for being their provider of choice Feb 11 15:02:41 now, they've used their market dominance and mindshare to bully verizon into carrying it, and if you think it wasn't bullying where is the verizon logo on the phone? Where are teh standard verizon crapware apps that usually get loaded? Feb 11 15:03:02 show me another phone that ships from verzion without crapware and their logo Feb 11 15:04:13 it wouldn't surprise me much if the iphone5 was completly 100% carrier agnostic in every way, bought from apple off contract and all vzw/at&t/tmobile/sprint/whoever had to do was answer the phone and listen to you say, "Hi, I'd like to ESN Swap" Feb 11 15:05:04 I think this terrifies the carriers, because it exposes them for exactly what they actually are, and what they have fought so hard to not be seen as. Commodity suppliers of interchangable bandwidth. Feb 11 15:05:35 :) Feb 11 15:07:10 mikewx: my Palm Pre Plus doesn't have a Verizon logo. :) Feb 11 15:07:31 preproduction? Feb 11 15:07:43 since they're just going on presale now~ Feb 11 15:09:23 carrier bloatware is a side issue when they sign a 5 year exclusive contract Feb 11 15:09:33 granted, an annoying side issue Feb 11 15:10:12 carrier bloatware is just another tactic from the carriers to attempt to show how much value they add over another carrier Feb 11 15:10:34 and they don't add value anymore, especially in a world of 'apps' Feb 11 15:11:01 i'd argue they didn't add value before, but i'd end up admiting that was my personal prefernece :) Feb 11 15:11:41 I'm a big fan of sprint nav, and I think anyone who wants skype but can't get an official solution for their non-verizon phone would disagree that there's no value there. Feb 11 15:11:46 but your point is sound Feb 11 15:13:30 I just don't think a lack of carrier logos and bloatware = most carrier agnostic Feb 11 15:13:40 no, it's not **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 11 15:15:53 2011 Feb 11 15:29:08 _ Feb 11 15:43:49 Hey guys Feb 11 15:49:19 hi Feb 11 15:53:41 hi! Feb 11 15:54:32 could please someone tell me how i can get the alpha sip client for testing? Feb 11 16:00:23 You should PM Tibaud Feb 11 16:02:10 okay, thank you very much Feb 11 16:02:48 do you know when he will come on? Feb 11 16:03:15 JohnDoes: who? sorry I just got on myself Feb 11 16:40:09 anyone here have access to preware feeds? Feb 11 16:40:20 pushing packages onto them. Feb 11 16:40:32 well I know someone does.. but anyone avaialable? Feb 11 16:43:35 Tibfib, ask oil Feb 11 16:43:59 thanks Feb 11 16:44:03 oil! ping Feb 11 16:44:33 Tibfib, i think egaudet can too Feb 11 16:45:50 actually nevermind. gonna wait a bit before trying to push to preware Feb 11 16:59:18 ~botsnack Feb 11 16:59:18 :), cryptk Feb 11 17:01:53 anyone here to have access to the sip client? Feb 11 17:02:23 JohnDoes, you mean linphone? Feb 11 17:02:44 yes :) Feb 11 17:03:30 dunno if this is appropriate here, but I'm looking to sell my original Pre if anyone is interested. Won't offer again in case it's taboo. Feb 11 17:03:30 JohnDoes, ask Tibfib Feb 11 17:03:55 why ask me? Feb 11 17:04:06 lol Feb 11 17:04:17 ask->tibfib :D Feb 11 17:04:18 wrong "T" name Feb 11 17:04:30 hrm Feb 11 17:04:32 oh hah. thibauld or something like that? Feb 11 17:04:45 Tibfib, yeah thats him Feb 11 17:04:51 thiabald maybe? Feb 11 17:05:05 Tibfib, yeah he's not in right now Feb 11 17:05:19 trying to remember his exact username Feb 11 17:05:31 thiabauld is my best guess Feb 11 17:05:44 tibaut? Feb 11 17:05:45 yeah Feb 11 17:05:55 tibaud Feb 11 17:06:12 okay, i wait^^ Feb 11 17:06:27 JohnDoes, read this for now. http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/274615-linphone-alpha-testing.html Feb 11 17:06:54 scoutcamper: the only issue I ran into with Linphone was... using 3G w/ Linphone resulted in reinstalling Linphone. Feb 11 17:07:04 beyond that... it works great. Feb 11 17:07:23 JohnDoes, do you have a SIP account? Feb 11 17:07:29 Thibaud! Feb 11 17:07:32 that's it Feb 11 17:07:40 yes i have Feb 11 17:07:54 and also my girlfriend, we want to test it :D Feb 11 17:08:01 JohnDoes, pk Feb 11 17:08:09 s/pk/ok/ Feb 11 17:08:10 scoutcamper meant: JohnDoes, ok Feb 11 17:08:31 ?? Feb 11 17:08:56 JohnDoes, now we just wait for Thibaud or rwhitby to show up Feb 11 17:09:17 So are there Linphone questions? Feb 11 17:09:47 Thibaud is probably just leaving work Feb 11 17:09:49 Mark_M, do we know what the nme of the service it uses is? so i can manually restart it? Feb 11 17:10:03 yeah ok :) yes, Mark_M, just wanted to test it Feb 11 17:11:20 There is a background job running in Linphone, but Thibaud says that we should not need to restart it. If you change something in the preferences, the app will reregister Feb 11 17:11:28 What is the issue you are having with it? Feb 11 17:11:53 I asked Thibaud to allow us to have an option to completely terminate the app and service. Feb 11 17:12:22 I actually sometimes kill the background process through Terminal Feb 11 17:12:27 Mark_M, i close the app, then reopen it, and it hangs on "Waiting for service" Feb 11 17:14:04 and he's gone :D Feb 11 17:14:46 sorry, ff decided to crash Feb 11 17:14:52 What was the issue? Feb 11 17:14:58 Mark_M, i close the app, then reopen it, and it hangs on "Waiting for service" Feb 11 17:14:59 scoutcamper: you might have to reinstall. The precentral thread for Linphone talks about a 'changing the password' fix. Feb 11 17:15:23 scoutcamper, what version are you using? Feb 11 17:15:26 scoinva, done twice, same issue persits Feb 11 17:15:50 Mark_M, 0.1.2 Feb 11 17:15:51 The "waiting for service" thing happens to me when I use Linphone connected to 3G. Feb 11 17:16:05 I had to reinstall app and restart phone. Feb 11 17:16:19 scoutcamper, have you tried it on Wifi? Feb 11 17:16:26 Mark_M, nope Feb 11 17:16:35 scoinva, maybe thats the issue Feb 11 17:16:41 scoutcamper, give it a try to see if it works Feb 11 17:16:45 I'm using 0.1.3. Feb 11 17:17:00 I'm usin g0.1.3 too Feb 11 17:17:01 check out the Precentral thread about Linphone. Feb 11 17:17:20 the author is aware of the 3G issue. Feb 11 17:17:27 Mark_M, can you giving me access to linphone?or just Tibaut? Feb 11 17:17:32 scoutcamper, there may be some NATty issues with your carrier Feb 11 17:17:56 JohnDoes, I need to let Thibaud distribute his port as he sees fit. Feb 11 17:18:02 JohnDoes, sorry Feb 11 17:18:11 ok,np Feb 11 17:18:52 I just dug into the source to figure out why I could not register the client with my VoIP provider. Feb 11 17:18:52 I just saw at git.webos-internals.org that version 0.1.4 of linphone is available. Feb 11 17:19:01 kbywal: nice! Feb 11 17:19:34 I wonder what the improvements are. Feb 11 17:19:49 If I successfully compile 3.4 for my Linux box then I may attempt a cross compile. Feb 11 17:20:16 Shouldn't I be working? Feb 11 17:20:49 scoinva: nobody knows but Thibaud :) Feb 11 17:21:05 haha Feb 11 17:21:08 I think he mentioned working on a similar issue last night. Feb 11 17:21:36 Don't quote me like Ruby though Feb 11 17:23:07 Hope Thibaud will release linphone 0.1.4 for alpha testing soon. Feb 11 17:23:38 Damn ff on Windows keeps crashing. I want 4.0! Feb 11 17:23:45 Mark_M, im on AT&T Pre 2 Feb 11 17:24:11 scoutcamper, nice Pre2 sorry 'bout AT&T Feb 11 17:24:26 Mark_M, i have pre-ordered a VZW Pre 2 Feb 11 17:25:00 Mark_M, may i suggest http://xchat.org/download/ Feb 11 17:25:01 scoutcamper, I'm waiting for the Pre3. I currently have a Pre- on Sprint but thanks to the HB community it still has life Feb 11 17:25:32 ouch Feb 11 17:25:47 scoutcamper, no you may not. :) I use ChatZilla in FF. It usually works quite good but I think I have a buggy extension that crashes FF. Feb 11 17:26:07 I have the same configuration in Linux as well Feb 11 17:26:11 aahh Feb 11 17:26:12 okm Feb 11 17:26:23 i was thinking you were using webchat Feb 11 17:26:46 scoutcamper, I figured that people would assume that. Feb 11 17:27:13 webchat is too inflexible for my needs Feb 11 17:27:49 * scoutcamper loves x-chat, its not dependant on my firefox to work Feb 11 17:28:02 Congratulations to the webOS-Internals team getting a new server from HP!!! Feb 11 17:28:50 indeed Feb 11 17:33:38 Mark_M: I found a chatzilla standalone installer a few years back, it works great Feb 11 17:33:42 hard to find though Feb 11 17:35:21 Mark_M you probably missed what I just wrote? Feb 11 17:36:10 is there any way to get alias's with the icq messenger plugin automatically? Feb 11 17:36:19 it's a little tricky to set up but not hard http://chatzilla.rdmsoft.com/xulrunner/ Feb 11 17:36:36 there is an option but it doesnt work Feb 11 18:03:53 first TouchPad patch request for the super amazing patch people... replace all the HP logos with Palm? :) I can provide moral support! Feb 11 18:20:23 whats the name of that only shell/terminal that works in webos 2x? Feb 11 18:25:04 oh it must be secure shell Feb 11 18:34:02 hey Feb 11 18:34:20 in lieu of how we all just got hosed… except pre 2 owners Feb 11 18:34:29 what about revitalizing nova barleywine? Feb 11 18:34:42 ive got it running on a verizon pre plus and it isnt bad except there arent many apps for it Feb 11 18:35:10 NDA Feb 11 18:35:15 ~nda Feb 11 18:35:50 infobot's dead, jim. Feb 11 18:36:30 is there anything that can be done to support this release? Feb 11 18:37:27 folks have to have written apps for it, is there a way to have a paid app catalog for it via preware? Feb 11 18:37:43 it just seems to run well and it seems like a waste not to use it Feb 11 18:38:09 :) Feb 11 18:38:19 must've forgotten to oil the bot eh? Feb 11 19:20:09 hi, do somebody know if I can access a Mojo cookie from a shell script? Feb 11 20:29:57 hape: you could probably call some js with luna-send Feb 11 20:30:06 hape: but I'm no mojo guy =) Feb 11 20:33:54 Tibfib: pong? Feb 11 20:34:06 nevermind for now :) Feb 11 20:34:24 oh Feb 11 20:34:38 how are you submitting to feeds? Feb 11 20:34:41 via precentral? Feb 11 20:34:50 or you gonna go webosinternals feed? Feb 11 20:34:51 no, I wanted to do it in your feed Feb 11 20:35:12 our stuff is all packaged and done by build.git Feb 11 20:35:29 we'll need to get ya a repo on webosinternals Feb 11 20:35:34 unless you're already going somewhere else Feb 11 20:35:41 I was planning on using github Feb 11 20:35:46 so others can contribute Feb 11 20:36:02 it should be able to pull from there Feb 11 20:36:13 though i dont know much about build.git Feb 11 20:36:13 I don't want a "complete" working version on git Feb 11 20:36:19 thats rwhitby-`s baby Feb 11 20:36:29 keeping my api keys to myself Feb 11 20:36:33 hm Feb 11 20:36:38 needs to be complete iirc Feb 11 20:36:48 yeah, idk how thats gonna work Feb 11 20:37:40 shoot. maybe I'll have to go via precentral Feb 11 20:38:25 perhaps build.git could include them before packaging Feb 11 20:38:32 but your keys would still need to be in a repo somewhere Feb 11 20:38:41 for the autobuilder to be able to do it automagically Feb 11 20:40:22 hmm, I guess I need to talk to rod Feb 11 20:41:11 oil: Tibfib: iirc it's ok to pull stuff from build.git Feb 11 20:42:21 * xaiki is looking for a mojo/js dev to help on a little cool project. Feb 11 20:45:21 * oil wonders what project is Feb 11 20:47:35 * Tibfib does too Feb 11 20:49:55 do you know what service I have to poll to find out if the headphone is plugged in? Feb 11 20:52:12 phoque: As I know you're involved in the alpha testing of Linphone and as Thibaud isn't here I'm asking you, ... Do you know whether the newest alpha is now suitable for the Pixi? Feb 11 20:53:17 msento: that's what the changelog says. Feb 11 20:54:47 xaiki: I was in the chat yesterday. Thibaud told me that I would have to wait for some hours so I don't have a link to where I can get the ipk-file. Can you help me? Feb 11 20:57:46 msento: you should wait for rwhitby to come back online. Feb 11 21:00:19 xaiki: Sorry for probably asking silly questions but I'm new to the beta-feed however as I'm using VOIP/SIP heavily I feel I could be of good help for the project - especially as the Pixi does not seem to be so well represented until now. Is rwhitby assisting Thibaud? Feb 11 21:01:02 xaiki: The only info I've found so far is this: http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/linphone.git;a=summary Feb 11 21:01:30 xaiki: Is this what you mean by "changelog"? Feb 11 21:05:06 msento: It looks like he fixed the major bugs in 0.1.4 Feb 11 21:06:09 scoinva: That's good news! How do you know? ;-) Feb 11 21:06:50 based on the change log Feb 11 21:07:28 scoinva: I see. ;-) Feb 11 21:07:45 * scoutcamper just built the ipk of the new 0.1.4 Feb 11 21:07:50 installing now Feb 11 21:08:22 0.1.4 Feb 11 21:08:28 moce Feb 11 21:08:31 nice Feb 11 21:08:35 could I get the updated ipk? Feb 11 21:08:36 linphone Feb 11 21:09:11 contradude, you have to git clone it, then palm-packae Feb 11 21:09:41 scoutcamper: any issues packaging it? Feb 11 21:09:49 none Feb 11 21:10:13 sweet Feb 11 21:10:26 however, it appears to still wait for service error Feb 11 21:10:35 UGH. Feb 11 21:10:44 contradude: I've found the git-source but I've never packaged a file, ... How does that work? Can you help me? Feb 11 21:10:44 and im on wifi Feb 11 21:11:28 msento: you're better off asking scoutcamper. I've only packaged once and it was a long time ago Feb 11 21:11:34 msento, what os are you on? Feb 11 21:12:08 scoutcamper: 1.4.5 GSM o2 Germany Pixi Plus Feb 11 21:12:16 msento, no, desktop os Feb 11 21:12:30 Mac OS X 10.6.6 Feb 11 21:12:52 msento, ok, im not to familiar with mac, but the commands should be similar Feb 11 21:13:02 msento, open terminal Feb 11 21:13:16 msento, then cd to a directory, your pick Feb 11 21:13:28 scoutcamper: done. Feb 11 21:14:00 msento, type git clone git://git.webos-internals.org/applications/linphone.git Feb 11 21:14:43 scoutcamper: It says git: Command not found. Feb 11 21:15:05 msento: get git from macports Feb 11 21:15:21 Ok. Feb 11 21:15:21 http://www.macports.org/ Feb 11 21:15:54 sudo port install git, after you installed the macports package Feb 11 21:17:15 oh, sorry, its called git-core Feb 11 21:17:34 lumines: Thanks, ... Just tried to install it. BUT: I need to install XCODE first. ... Feb 11 21:17:35 msento, let me know when installed Feb 11 21:18:42 msento: i always forget about that, sorry :( Feb 11 21:19:15 but you should find it on the dvd which came with your mac Feb 11 21:19:25 lumines: Nothing to excuse for, ... You're a great help, ... Feb 11 21:19:57 lumines: I know but unfortunately that dvd is about 150km away. ;-( Feb 11 21:20:11 hm :( Feb 11 21:20:20 msento, while you are installing things, make sure you have palm sdk installed Feb 11 21:22:22 sclutcamper: No. ;-( I thought Thibaud just required the feedback from a Pixi-User that is aware of how SIP services work, ... Now I learn that I would have to dig deeper into the developer stuff, ... Feb 11 21:22:57 scoutcamper: Sorry for misspelling your name. Feb 11 21:22:57 msento, if he approves i can send you the new sdk Feb 11 21:23:15 scoutcamper: I'll have a new ipk soon Feb 11 21:23:33 scoutcamper: That would be great. Feb 11 21:23:45 rwhitby, i just built one, i can send it to you, its 0.1.4 Feb 11 21:24:24 no Feb 11 21:25:37 k Feb 11 21:26:12 lumines: Apple offers XCode 3 as free download but version 4 is apparently "ante portas". Is V3 ok? Feb 11 21:26:29 yes Feb 11 21:28:05 lumines: So let's see, ... ;-) Feb 11 21:28:19 as far as i know you only need gcc to compile some stuff but unfortunately its bundled with xcode ... Feb 11 21:29:01 so xcode wouldnt be necessary if apple would release a gcc-only binary :P Feb 11 21:30:04 lumines: Yes, ... Feb 11 21:30:48 anybody can help me to resolve "undefined reference" problems? I'm a bit lost here... :( Feb 11 21:30:54 lumines: I just read: " ... to continue you must be registeres with Apple as a developer ..." Feb 11 21:31:13 hm, yeah, you have to :/ Feb 11 21:31:21 lumines: So I fear I'm done for the moment. Feb 11 21:31:27 lumines: ;-( Feb 11 21:31:30 its free Feb 11 21:31:50 msento: don't you have xcode with your OS disks? Feb 11 21:31:58 lumines: Ah! Ok, ... so let's continue. Feb 11 21:32:20 rwhitby: Yes but these are 150km away from my desk. Feb 11 21:33:09 msento: if you jump in your car now :-P Feb 11 21:34:11 msento: I see. Feb 11 21:34:14 contradude: I will certainly do so but not today. Feb 11 21:34:31 msento: I was just kidding Feb 11 21:34:46 if you wait a couple of minutes, I'll have Pre and Pixi 0.1.4 ipkgs uploaded Feb 11 21:35:09 awesome Feb 11 21:35:18 contradude: Why? That wouldn't have been the first time to do something like that. ;-) Feb 11 21:39:41 so, who was looking to test Pixi linphone? Feb 11 21:40:16 msento was Feb 11 21:40:28 but i allready sent him the new ipk Feb 11 21:42:08 rwhitby: Yes, thanks. I'm on my way to get it on my Pixi. Feb 11 21:42:22 scoutcamper: Thank you. Feb 11 21:42:22 Linphone alpha testers: take the previous URL, change '3' to '4' and add '-pre' or '-pixi' to the end to get version 0.1.4 for your device. Feb 11 21:46:07 is it possible to mix static linking and dynamic linking? Could that cause my problems? Feb 11 21:51:01 does anyone else still have a "Waiting for service" bug on wifi and 3g? Feb 11 21:51:30 with linphone Feb 11 21:56:06 I do. I haven't tried 0.1.4 yet. Feb 11 21:56:21 im on 0.1.4 Feb 11 21:56:33 cool.does it fix the issue? Feb 11 21:56:39 nope Feb 11 21:57:14 I feel like a left over thread is still running in the background when you restart. Feb 11 21:57:42 well, that should be pretty easy for you to prove or disprove on the command line. Feb 11 21:57:43 plus it might be a Verizon network thing. Feb 11 21:58:02 scoinva, im on AT&T PRe2 Feb 11 21:58:13 rwhitby, what command? Feb 11 21:58:28 rwhitby, good point. I hate to sound lame but I'll let the developer get it worked out. Feb 11 21:58:31 :) Feb 11 21:58:45 scoinva: you can start and stop the service on the command line Feb 11 21:58:53 "stop org.webosinternals.linphone.service" Feb 11 21:58:57 "start org.webosinternals.linphone.service" Feb 11 21:59:03 interesting. Feb 11 21:59:11 hmmm. Feb 11 21:59:27 it's just an upstart script, in /var/palm/event.d/ Feb 11 21:59:38 * rwhitby bbl Feb 11 21:59:46 scoutcamper, I think there is a Preware command line patch Feb 11 22:00:03 didnt help Feb 11 22:00:36 scoutcamper, do you did the stop start linphone.service? Feb 11 22:01:51 root@Matthew's Palm Pre:/# stop org.webosinternals.linphone.service Feb 11 22:01:52 stop: (00824/236246337) Job not changed: org.webosinternals.linphone.service Feb 11 22:01:52 root@Matthew's Palm Pre:/# start org.webosinternals.linphone.service Feb 11 22:01:52 (00834/255441894) org.webosinternals.linphone.service (start) waiting Feb 11 22:01:52 (00834/257547607) org.webosinternals.linphone.service (start) starting Feb 11 22:01:52 (00834/259073486) org.webosinternals.linphone.service (start) pre-start Feb 11 22:01:54 (00834/260812988) org.webosinternals.linphone.service (start) spawned, process 2591 Feb 11 22:01:56 (00834/262399902) org.webosinternals.linphone.service (start) post-start, (main) process 2591 Feb 11 22:01:58 (00834/263956298) org.webosinternals.linphone.service (start) running, process 2591 Feb 11 22:02:00 root@Matthew's Palm Pre:/# Feb 11 22:02:01 pastebin Feb 11 22:02:06 please? Feb 11 22:02:10 lol Feb 11 22:02:14 indeed Feb 11 22:03:37 http://pastebin.com/1HUJzrY2 Feb 11 22:33:19 rwhitby: can a patch in preware have a app (in my case service) as prerequsit? Feb 11 23:05:53 is there a community effort to get webos2 on the pre? or is this not going to be a possibility? Feb 11 23:06:34