**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 24 02:59:57 2011 Feb 24 03:03:13 indeed Feb 24 03:04:21 Yeah, it'll be cool when there's a meta-doctor script to get Flash enabled on the 2.1 builds. Feb 24 03:06:44 terminal programs on wOS 2? Feb 24 03:11:22 RagingMind, secure shell Feb 24 03:11:48 any way to set the screen size for secure shell? Feb 24 03:12:16 no clue Feb 24 03:12:33 ah well :) Feb 24 03:16:38 the first time I open preware I can install things, but every time after it stops at the very end of downloading and doesn't go further :( Feb 24 03:17:10 RagingMind, ask oil or rwhitby Feb 24 03:17:27 I mentioned it earlier, but I think rod was out Feb 24 03:18:07 anyone ever get this: Feb 24 03:18:07 mbp:scripts keith$ ./meta-verizon-preplus-2.1.0 Feb 24 03:18:07 make: *** No rule to make target `clobber'. Stop. Feb 24 03:18:08 make: *** No rule to make target `unpack'. Stop. Feb 24 03:18:11 on osx? Feb 24 03:18:30 don't run it from the scripts folder Feb 24 03:18:33 keith, I think you're in the wrong directory Feb 24 03:18:35 run it from the base metadoctor folder Feb 24 03:19:11 ahh cool Feb 24 03:20:02 reading the thread on how to get Flash on 2.1 makes me want to cry :'( Feb 24 03:20:40 how many "OMG WHERE DO I DOWNLOAD?@?@??!?!?!" ? Feb 24 03:20:47 tons Feb 24 03:20:50 tons and tons Feb 24 03:20:58 and some guy who keeps bitching to the admins to get unbanned Feb 24 03:21:19 lol Feb 24 03:21:19 *sigh* Feb 24 03:22:59 scoutcamper, secure shell isn't in preware anymore, not in testing feeds either Feb 24 03:23:23 SecureShell had some problems from what I remember and got pulled Feb 24 03:23:52 so if I wanna fiddle with the USB port I"m gonna have to ssh? Feb 24 03:24:15 RagingMind, i built it manually, get the ccode from http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/secureshell.git;a=summary Feb 24 03:25:04 Blah? Feb 24 03:25:04 SineOt: that guy bitching to the admins was trolling the 2.1.0 thread, so I sicked the dogs onto him Feb 24 03:25:21 SineOt: then he started goading the mods to ban him. so he got banned. Feb 24 03:25:42 I've built linux/X/gtk apps from source before, I've never built/packaged a webOS app Feb 24 03:25:47 for some reason I am totally not surprised Feb 24 03:25:49 now he wants to be unbanned, after creating another account so he can clog up more threads Feb 24 03:27:03 good times... Feb 24 03:28:08 RagingMind, install the palm sdk, git clone that repo Feb 24 03:28:34 I have the sdk. I got distracted by ssh Feb 24 03:31:52 hmm... the openssh in preware is a few versions behind Feb 24 03:32:13 do the things in preware like that have to be manually updated? Feb 24 03:32:59 im sure omeone knows Feb 24 03:33:16 destinal prolly would if he were here Feb 24 03:35:02 RagingMind: they do Feb 24 03:53:10 Yup... every time I come back from USB drive mode I get the "Data Transfer" app Feb 24 04:00:20 I should apologize to virtual box Feb 24 04:00:48 virtual box: you are forgiven Feb 24 04:01:02 i got flash on 2.1 Feb 24 04:01:24 it probably wasn't recognizing the pre because my usb cable is toast and windows wasn't recognizing it either Feb 24 04:01:36 it's always a problem with layer 1 Feb 24 04:02:16 someone get skype working Feb 24 04:03:18 i think rwhitby said the implementation specifically looks for being on vzw's network .. possibly a vzw-specific gateway Feb 24 04:03:26 yup Feb 24 04:03:30 :( Feb 24 04:03:32 it's not voip skype Feb 24 04:03:36 it's fake skype Feb 24 04:03:47 whats the point then Feb 24 04:04:02 good question? Feb 24 04:04:02 if you're on verizon, you can call a skype contact who's on skype proper Feb 24 04:04:16 and it doesn't count against your minutes/data plan Feb 24 04:04:28 well thats very useful, pause not Feb 24 04:04:47 useful if you're on verizon :I Feb 24 04:05:58 well I hope we get the Sip cient VOIP thing going Feb 24 04:06:33 tata! Feb 24 04:08:06 SineOt, you sure it doesn't count as data? Feb 24 04:08:31 from what I've read, yeah Feb 24 04:08:34 nifty Feb 24 04:08:38 like I said it's not a VoIP client, it's just a phone call Feb 24 04:08:40 too bad it didn't install Feb 24 04:09:08 that either Verizon or Skype routes onto the Skype network somewhere along the line after your call reaches a tower Feb 24 04:09:30 I wonder what it'd take to figure out how to just dial into it Feb 24 04:09:36 if that's possible Feb 24 04:10:28 I'm imagining that what it is is that Verizon has a deal with Skype to allow Verizon phones to make Skype In calls without needing the end user to have Skype In credit Feb 24 04:24:08 kfife: my wife likes your music on hold mojo Feb 24 04:25:46 yo Feb 24 04:26:40 yo... Feb 24 04:31:10 so, i may have a problem Feb 24 04:31:23 i used meta-doctor to upgrade my sprint pre- to 2.1 Feb 24 04:31:33 and everything was fine Feb 24 04:31:42 but now i'm getting an activation error, telling me i may need to activate my phone Feb 24 04:31:43 dun dun dunnnnn ... Feb 24 04:32:02 and naturally, try again doesn't work :P Feb 24 04:32:54 * rwhitby points you to someone who lives in a country that has CDMA networks ... Feb 24 04:33:39 hmm Feb 24 04:36:15 is there any way to properly end novacom on windows? if i close the prompt i have to restart my pc or i get "unable to find device" Feb 24 04:36:28 rouge8: what exactly does "and everything was fine" mean? Feb 24 04:36:56 the webos doctor ran without any errors Feb 24 04:37:01 and the phone booted Feb 24 04:37:05 Guest95209: jejeje, I was just havinf the same issue, any ideas? Feb 24 04:37:06 i chose my language and country Feb 24 04:37:17 and then i got the activation error Feb 24 04:37:37 did you do the palm-build-info fix? Feb 24 04:37:46 scoutcamper: unrelated Feb 24 04:38:00 you do that fix *after* you log into the profile Feb 24 04:38:24 i haven't been able to log into the profile yet Feb 24 04:38:41 what's up? Feb 24 04:38:55 and my working directory only has palm-build-info-unmasqed and palm-build-info, no palm-build-info-masqed Feb 24 04:39:15 where does anything refer to palm-build-info-masqed ? Feb 24 04:39:56 "If the meta-script left a palm-build-info-masqed file in your working directory" (step 5) Feb 24 04:40:23 thanks. refresh the page and it will say unmasqed Feb 24 04:41:21 okay, but i haven't logged into the profile yet Feb 24 04:41:35 what script did you use? Feb 24 04:42:20 meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0 Feb 24 04:42:34 doctor back to 1.4.5 Feb 24 04:49:15 I think I may just need to get my MSL code from Sprint. i'm on hold with their online tech support now Feb 24 04:49:25 I probably should have gotten this before doctoring :P Feb 24 05:05:23 that doesn't appear to have worked, 1.4.5 may be the way to go Feb 24 05:06:04 rouge8: what did you tell them you wanted it for? Feb 24 05:06:20 i said i believe i accidentally deactivated my phone Feb 24 05:06:23 which is true Feb 24 05:06:27 if you tell them that Palm support told you to do a master reset it saves a lot of time Feb 24 05:06:27 :) Feb 24 05:06:27 UHHHHHHH Feb 24 05:06:30 that works too, heh Feb 24 05:06:30 oh crap Feb 24 05:06:32 they asked no further questions Feb 24 05:06:44 you aren't supposed to replace palm-build-info with palm-build-info-unmasqed on a Sprint Pre are you Feb 24 05:06:53 am I about to die Feb 24 05:07:04 yes Feb 24 05:07:15 you're supposed to do that after you get it activated and logged into your profile Feb 24 05:07:34 I did activate and loginto my profile Feb 24 05:07:42 I'm trying to re-do a patch, and it renames a file from "bar-assistant.js" to "bar-assistant.js.rej" how do I fix that? Feb 24 05:07:47 and then did it Feb 24 05:07:56 but the wiki says that sprint devices have to masquerade as 1.4.5? Feb 24 05:07:57 "If the meta-script left a palm-build-info-unmasqed file in your working directory, then after you log into your profile you need to copy this file back onto your device:" Feb 24 05:07:58 PatrickC_Pre: .rej means the patch is failing to apply Feb 24 05:08:13 torchie: yes they do Feb 24 05:08:26 hmm. but the filepath is the exact same file path... Feb 24 05:08:28 else you'll end up with profile problems Feb 24 05:08:36 so no replacing palm build info with palm build info unmasqed right now? Feb 24 05:08:37 (no paid apps, etc) Feb 24 05:08:39 do I uh Feb 24 05:08:41 oh crap Feb 24 05:08:43 OH CRAP Feb 24 05:08:47 the error was "saving rejects to file ..." Feb 24 05:08:50 not until you sign into profile Feb 24 05:08:55 PatrickC_Pre: that's not what's failing then, a bit of the patch is not applying properly Feb 24 05:08:56 already did Feb 24 05:09:04 AIRPLANE MODE AIRPLANE MODE Feb 24 05:09:05 PatrickC_Pre: y'know, like the error says :p Feb 24 05:09:26 so if I do it after I log into my profile I should be okay? Feb 24 05:09:35 yes Feb 24 05:09:39 oh. Feb 24 05:09:41 ok. Feb 24 05:09:47 did you use your MAIN profile for this? Feb 24 05:10:06 why yes, yes I did Feb 24 05:10:16 I'm about to die arent I Feb 24 05:10:19 * djwhitey thinks you're brave Feb 24 05:10:22 but the next one is "savings rejects to file usr/palm/applications/com.palm.app.screenlock/resources/es/strings.json Feb 24 05:10:44 I'm about to record myself doing it w/ my Pre- & post the vid Feb 24 05:10:46 PatrickC_Pre: read up, it'll tell you something like "1 out of 3 hunks failed" Feb 24 05:11:12 * djwhitey waits for cam battery to charge Feb 24 05:11:22 it says "1 out of 28 hunks failed" and "1 out of 1 hunks failed" Feb 24 05:11:59 pull the files that are getting changed and try to apply the patches using patch so you get a proper rejects file, and go from there Feb 24 05:12:14 it'll tell you which hunks are failing Feb 24 05:12:37 wait what? Feb 24 05:12:48 take the filepaths out that it is rejecting? Feb 24 05:13:28 copy the files that are getting rejected to your computer -> run patch to apply the patch for that file to the extracted copy -> you'll get a real rejects file that says "this is the part that's failing" Feb 24 05:15:35 so apps for 2.0 from the catalog don't work? Feb 24 05:16:02 if the min version is set to 2.0, yes Feb 24 05:16:12 because as far as the Palm servers are concerned, you're running 1.4.5 Feb 24 05:16:48 torchie: which bit of "If the meta-script left a palm-build-info-unmasqed file in your working directory, then after you log into your profile you ..." is not clear? Feb 24 05:19:32 will webosqi luna my phone if it installed? Feb 24 05:19:49 enoparse Feb 24 05:20:47 how do I get the logs from webosqi? Feb 24 05:26:33 rwhitby: am I correct in thinking that if I'm plussing a sprint pre, I can use the 2.1 sprint script, swap in my tokens to the resulting doctor and go straight to 2.1? Feb 24 05:26:34 man.. this is confusing Feb 24 05:26:46 can Preware instal .patch files? Feb 24 05:28:49 ok. I'm done with patch tinkering for now... Feb 24 05:29:48 PatrickC_Pre: preware install packages Feb 24 05:30:10 patch packages are created by submitting patches to http://patches.webos-internals.org/ Feb 24 05:30:22 ok. well, I can't figure out why it keeps throwing up red flags at me... Feb 24 05:30:37 the file it is trying to modify exists and it is the correct path Feb 24 05:31:15 idontwan2know: idontknow Feb 24 05:31:54 PatrickC_Pre: I do not know how to get logs from wosqi - I don't use it myself. Feb 24 05:32:05 ok thanks Feb 24 05:32:21 rwhitby: heh. I will try it and find out. just curious if I was missing an obvious reason it wouldn't work Feb 24 05:45:12 rwhitby: i am currently doctoring my sprint pre- with 1.4.5. if that is successful, would it be worthwhile to retry with the 2.1 meta-doctor? Feb 24 05:45:43 yes, after confirming full cellular operation on 1.4.5 Feb 24 05:46:02 yeah that would be a good idea Feb 24 05:46:18 sprint Pre- dr. to 2.1 in progress... nervous... but recording the whole process Feb 24 05:47:17 djwhitey: make sure you give a shout out for http://donate.webos-internals.org/ and the Preware Homebrew Documentation app somewhere :) Feb 24 05:47:47 for sure. wish i had something better to record than this point&shoot Feb 24 05:47:48 djwhitey: and don't worry, for someone who is contributing to documentation, I've got your back. Feb 24 05:48:38 the meta-sprint script bombed on me at the end... was running it on a headless server i guess is why Feb 24 05:48:52 ah, java -jar Feb 24 05:49:10 do you know there is a auto switch on the doctor somewhere to fix that. let me find it Feb 24 05:49:20 alright, building the webOS 2.1 Verizon doctor using the script Feb 24 05:50:00 djwhitey: java -jar --auto Feb 24 05:54:10 watching the webos doctor output, I noticed: "INFO: Modem Updater: sh: mpt: not found" Feb 24 05:54:23 but it keeps going, so hopefully not a problem? Feb 24 05:55:02 GAH! Here it goes... :| Feb 24 05:55:02 that's normal Feb 24 05:55:04 another thing i ran into before the meta-sprint script: auto-install of ssh keys... if you have that enabled, but files don't exist (in ./config/authorized_keys or ~/.ssh/authorized_keys)... it bombs Feb 24 05:55:24 djwhitey: yep, the doco says you need to put those files there first Feb 24 05:55:26 during the else statement Feb 24 05:56:01 cant do "elseif fileexists..." type of thing there? Feb 24 05:56:09 same for wifi profiles i think Feb 24 05:56:51 i'm not good w/ bash scripting so maybe not Feb 24 06:01:33 djwhitey: fixed for both Feb 24 06:02:33 just finished flashing, picked language... and activation error Feb 24 06:02:37 =[ Feb 24 06:02:49 that's what i had! Feb 24 06:02:55 "You may need to activate your phone by going to ." Feb 24 06:03:03 I'll tell this phone where it needs to go... Feb 24 06:03:31 "You'll need your HEX MEID: A000000XXXXX" Feb 24 06:04:17 powering it down now... gonna pull battery & bring it back up Feb 24 06:04:26 * djwhitey says a silent prayer Feb 24 06:05:08 djwhitey: on the bright side, if it never works, it looks like doctoring it back to 1.4.5 is fine Feb 24 06:05:38 rwhitby: should I have done token replacement? I had a castle.xml all setup for a 1.4.5 dr. i was playing with yesterday Feb 24 06:07:21 anyone help troubleshoot why my wifi keeps going to sleep when my screen is off? (and the sleep setting is set correctly to keep wifi on when the screen is off) Feb 24 06:09:03 it looks provisioned OK when i look in ##RTN#... MDN/MSID are correct... the other tokens look alright too. modem firmware is updated to RC1.7(557) Feb 24 06:09:44 i wonder if i should call *2 Feb 24 06:09:58 tell em "I had to hard-reset"? Feb 24 06:10:37 i don't see EV or 1x icons... i see greyed out wifi Feb 24 06:10:45 5/5 bars Feb 24 06:11:10 djwhitey: sorry mate, I know nothing about CDMA carriers Feb 24 06:11:16 djwhitey: that's exactly what i had Feb 24 06:11:47 djwhitey: if you look at ##DATA#, is the username and other information wrong? Feb 24 06:11:53 yea Feb 24 06:12:04 should've said "djwhitey@sprintpcs.com" for username Feb 24 06:12:05 so was mine Feb 24 06:12:09 yeah Feb 24 06:12:21 so, what do you need to do to fix that? Feb 24 06:12:26 but in ##RTN# it looks fine Feb 24 06:12:26 i don't know what the passwords are or anything Feb 24 06:12:35 i think i'll need to call sprint & get my MSL Feb 24 06:13:03 brb Feb 24 06:13:23 Can anyone help troubleshoot why my wifi keeps going to sleep when my screen is off? (and the sleep setting is set correctly to keep wifi on when the screen is off) Feb 24 06:13:42 whitey i had that problem but Ev came back after 30-45 min Feb 24 06:18:09 this CSR sounds like she knows EXACTLY what's wrong... lol Feb 24 06:20:22 oh dear Feb 24 06:21:04 she had me do ##RTN# & do a reset Feb 24 06:21:08 :| No progress for 20 minutes... Feb 24 06:21:20 gawd i hope this doesn't fudge up my masquerading Feb 24 06:21:34 djwhitey: my online rep had me try that 4-5 times Feb 24 06:21:45 no luck? Feb 24 06:21:56 nope, but i'm rooting for you Feb 24 06:22:06 haha, thanks! Feb 24 06:22:41 Oooo! I am just going to keep talking to #webos-internals to make this install happy. It is doing things again. :) Feb 24 06:23:16 dkirker1: what % are you at? Feb 24 06:23:55 Hi everyone :) Feb 24 06:23:56 djwhitey: Still 12. The output is showing that some partition stuff is going on. Feb 24 06:24:33 dkirker1: how do you monitor the output? secret window somewhere? Feb 24 06:25:05 djwhitey: I ran the meta-doctor script for my Verizon Pre. It launches the doctor and shows the output in the terminal. Feb 24 06:26:41 ok CSR told me pull battery & read her the ESN... waiting to put battery back Feb 24 06:30:26 djwhitey: what is the proble u are having? Feb 24 06:35:19 no luck? Feb 24 06:35:28 not yet Feb 24 06:35:47 and it is rebooting! Feb 24 06:36:00 damn Feb 24 06:36:01 she had me do ##RTN# > Reset again... Feb 24 06:37:50 i'm off to bed for the night. will you post somewhere if you get results? Feb 24 06:37:51 ugh... HP logo gots to GO when we get this fixed Feb 24 06:37:58 sure will Feb 24 06:38:08 cool. good luck Feb 24 06:40:08 no dice this time either Feb 24 06:40:17 being transferred to ADVANCED tech support! Feb 24 06:40:50 snazzy hold music Feb 24 06:44:51 Signing into my profile. :) Feb 24 06:45:14 dkirker1: you lucky duck you ;) Feb 24 06:45:19 haha Feb 24 06:45:47 the question is, where do I find the palm-build-info-unmasqed file? Feb 24 06:46:00 naver mind! Feb 24 06:46:03 it's in ./meta-doctor ! Feb 24 06:46:20 just saw that. :) I was looking in build/ Feb 24 06:46:28 so, who in here will be at SCALE? Feb 24 06:46:43 and who wants to come to the WOSI booth to learn how to sprintify a Pre2? Feb 24 06:47:08 Damn, I wish cdm was in here right now. :( Feb 24 06:47:19 i'll sprintify a pre2 if you gimme one ;) Feb 24 06:48:41 * djwhitey back on a silent hold Feb 24 06:48:59 I am doing one live at SCALE Feb 24 06:49:20 "advanced" tech "made a change" on her side... "give it a couple min to propogate" Feb 24 06:50:25 cryptk: com board swap, flash w/ replaced tokens, 2nd flash w/ vzw dr.? Feb 24 06:50:59 yeah, with dmsets changed etc Feb 24 06:51:45 it seems easy now... but you shoulda been there a couple days ago when Rod and I figured it out... Feb 24 06:52:47 i'm watching a couple bad-ESN vzw pre+'s ... wanna try plussing mine, but don't wanna spend too much $ Feb 24 06:52:56 watching on ebay* Feb 24 06:59:20 g'morning Feb 24 07:00:13 good night Feb 24 07:09:18 lol, SIM Toolkit on a CDMA phone... Feb 24 07:10:57 yeah lol Feb 24 07:11:05 scared of opening that Feb 24 07:11:13 like it'll divide by zero or something Feb 24 07:11:16 *BOOM* Feb 24 07:12:04 torchie, no it just says that the device has to be on 30 (or 60 I forget) seconds before you open it Feb 24 07:12:43 okay... it looks like every time my cell connection is activated (like coming out of disk mode) I get the stupid Data Transfer Assistant Feb 24 07:18:08 It will be nice when all of these apps have finished downloading and this thing isn't dog slow.. Feb 24 07:20:18 mine still won't activate =( Feb 24 07:20:21 oh! an electric sheep app! Feb 24 07:20:28 with an exhibition mode! Feb 24 07:20:42 if I knew how to do such a thing... Feb 24 07:21:37 i should be counting sheep Feb 24 08:00:40 djwhitey: prices seem to have gone up lately on ebay. I got a verizon Pre+ with clean ESN for $57 just a week ago. now they're all going for $90+ Feb 24 08:01:53 if i'm gonna do a com board swap, does the ESN status matter? Feb 24 08:02:07 nope Feb 24 08:03:15 doing that, the 'new' phone would essentially have the ESN of the old, right? Feb 24 08:06:10 yeah, you will be using the comm board from your current device, so you will be using the ESN of your current device Feb 24 08:06:17 all that matters is that it is a Pre+ system board Feb 24 08:06:36 but I highly recommend considering going the Pre2 route Feb 24 08:06:57 the AT&T ones are crazy expensive for some reason Feb 24 08:08:10 Pre2s are still $350+...not gonna lay out that kind of cash when Pre3 is around the corner. Feb 24 08:11:45 cryptk: since you're an expert on sprintifying pres...do you think taking a metadoctored 2.1 and swapping the tokens in would work, rather than doctoring twice? Feb 24 08:11:55 purely hypothetically, of course Feb 24 08:12:39 you mean a meta-doctored Pre+ or - that has 2.1 on it? Feb 24 08:13:25 I'm not following something in there... tell me what you would be hypothetically starting with, and where you hypothetically want to end at Feb 24 08:13:34 and I will tell you what I feel is the best route Feb 24 08:14:59 sorry, say I'm taking a pre+ and swapping a sprint comm board into it. could I use the script to create a sprint 2.1 doctor, then swap the tokens into castle.xml and only doctor once? Feb 24 08:15:47 rather than a 1.4.5 doctor with sprint tokens, followed by the 2.1 doctor Feb 24 08:15:48 2hrs after 2.1 doctoring, and my - still won't activate... trying to re-doctor now Feb 24 08:27:16 *grumbles* my GPS still sucks Feb 24 08:30:11 still getting Activation Error after re-doctoring 2.1... gonna turn it off for the night & bring it back up tomorrow Feb 24 08:30:21 * djwhitey is away: sleep Feb 24 08:31:17 idontwan2know, you could Feb 24 08:31:48 you could even just create the correct castle.xml, then mod the script and add in CUSTOM_XML=./your-new.xml Feb 24 08:33:32 yeah, I figured there was a way to do that Feb 24 08:34:29 I asked because the guide on precentral seemed to suggest that castle.xml had to be modified before the doctor was created Feb 24 08:35:00 well, if you modify the castle.xml after it is created, then the doc may fail validation Feb 24 08:35:13 it will tell you at the end that it was unable to reboot your phone and it will stay in revocery mode Feb 24 08:35:20 hmm, okay Feb 24 08:35:27 but if you run the jar in a terminal, you can look in there to see the error Feb 24 08:35:36 but I don't /think/ that will cause a validation fail Feb 24 08:35:45 and even if it does, you just ignore it and reboot the phone Feb 24 08:35:52 since you know why that file failed Feb 24 08:35:57 since you modified it Feb 24 08:36:03 right Feb 24 08:36:46 when the sprint Pre2 was first made, meta-doc wasn't set up to regenerate the checksum for palm-build-info, so my phone failed validation on every doctor Feb 24 08:37:10 now that we know it works, meta-doc has had it's updates completed, and now it does regenerate that checksum, no more validation fail Feb 24 08:38:16 I'll give it a try tomorrow...I'm sure anyone who plusses a pre from now on will want 2.1, so that would save a ton of work rather than following the plussing guide, followed by the 2.1 wiki Feb 24 08:38:29 which would have you doctoring 3-4 times Feb 24 08:38:55 yeah Feb 24 08:39:11 now granted, that I have never tried doing it that way... neither have I ever plussed a pre Feb 24 08:39:19 I have only Sprintified a Pre2 Feb 24 08:40:01 right...I'm prepared for it to fail Feb 24 09:26:43 good morning, ladys and gentlemen =) Feb 24 10:19:41 german tutorial on installing 2.1.0 on german o2 pre- : http://schiefgedacht.de/?p=459 Feb 24 11:01:01 rwhitby: Looks like my Verizon Pre+ doctor up went successfully. Just doing the re-install of apps/Preware/Accounts/etc. now. Feb 24 11:54:10 dkirker1: excellent Feb 24 11:54:30 ice8lue: Thanks, that was what I watedt for Feb 24 11:55:43 rwhitby: I am noticing some potential issues, but it is almost 4am here and I am tired, so I'll report those in the morning. Feb 24 11:55:59 hape_: good luck Feb 24 11:56:10 btw, got approved for a pre 2 =D Feb 24 12:41:39 Awesome job guys :) i am finally running 2.1 on my At & t pre plus Feb 24 12:50:52 hey guys can someone guide me on how to do "Restore /etc/palm-build-info " step ? Feb 24 12:51:11 i am using linux on vbox Feb 24 13:16:48 where can I download QuickInstall? Feb 24 13:17:46 nevermind found it Feb 24 13:18:44 Either my pre or my laptop is behaving extremely strangely over USB. Feb 24 13:19:03 Last night, it just kept showing up as "unkown device" Feb 24 13:19:11 I thought it was the cable Feb 24 13:21:30 Now with a new cable it shows up as three devices: (R-ACM), Reduced CDC Abstract Control Module, and Generic Serial Feb 24 13:23:13 Oh, and when I tried to enter recovery mode, it showed up as OMAP 3430 Feb 24 13:25:02 Rebooted both devices several times. Restarted Novacom a few times, etc. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 24 17:26:17 2011 Feb 24 17:28:52 * halfhalo goes to his happy place Feb 24 17:32:20 "HPalm" when i read it sounds too close to facepalm Feb 24 17:32:45 lol Feb 24 17:35:20 The wiki has returned Feb 24 17:36:02 just upgraded to 2.1.0, now the swoosh sound has disappiered - any ideas anyone? Feb 24 17:36:37 Use the voice recorder to make your own? :) Feb 24 17:37:16 hehe. could help, if i would just play any sound Feb 24 17:37:19 but silence... Feb 24 17:41:12 ok, feeds are fixed Feb 24 17:42:24 cryptk: fuck yea Feb 24 17:43:00 ok, gotta run to catch my flight to SCALE Feb 24 17:43:03 later all Feb 24 17:43:38 anyone know why my speaker would start popping after flashing to sprint? Feb 24 17:44:44 interesting.... Feb 24 17:45:22 problem? Feb 24 17:45:40 colloquy was having a seizure Feb 24 17:46:16 is somewhere a log wirtten, if an error with the sound happens? /var/log/messages is not used... Feb 24 17:46:29 thats what you get for using colloquy Feb 24 17:46:45 a pop error sound? Feb 24 17:47:09 it happens whenever a sound effect would occur, like swiping a program away etc Feb 24 17:47:59 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/AheDUg1YQaLt8VvZICKjeN02EkVwLTXIqPKd0fYUUjQ?feat=directlink wahahahaha Feb 24 17:48:39 looks like a head case to me Feb 24 17:48:42 :-P Feb 24 17:49:21 trying to tether my palm pixi Feb 24 17:49:27 but dont kno how Feb 24 17:49:39 he pixi doesnt have wifi Feb 24 17:49:55 so ur trying either bt or usb Feb 24 17:50:06 usb tethering Feb 24 17:51:27 any help Feb 24 17:52:02 did you try mytether? Feb 24 17:52:11 no Feb 24 17:52:29 how do i go about that Feb 24 17:54:27 will i have to update my pixi to do tether Feb 24 17:55:32 people at sprint are such idiots... Feb 24 17:56:08 The lady on the phone told me she waived the fee for a repair, when i walk in, the guy says that he will charge $38.00 Feb 24 17:56:17 i just took my pre and walked away Feb 24 17:57:24 lol Feb 24 17:57:45 you think sprint is bad? try page plus Feb 24 17:57:59 how worse are they Feb 24 17:58:28 in my limited experience, sprint customer service/support is actually quite good relatively Feb 24 17:58:52 well let me just say, expect to be on hold 30+ mins when calling page plus Feb 24 17:59:04 lolol Feb 24 17:59:11 that would annoy the living shit out of me Feb 24 17:59:44 did anyone get 2.0 running on their sprint pre? Feb 24 17:59:45 well at $30 a month for 1200 mins and texts, i can take occasional hold times Feb 24 17:59:54 lol eh true Feb 24 18:00:33 i guess ill try re-flashing stock sprint to my plus, see if the speaker still pops Feb 24 18:00:49 bad speaker? Feb 24 18:01:05 nope Feb 24 18:01:17 i know it's kinda bad to ask, but can anybody send me novacom>1.0.56 for linux 65bit? my pre 2 isn't detected by novacom on site. please have mercy of a poor linux hacker Feb 24 18:01:21 was perfectly fine before i flashed to sprint last night Feb 24 18:01:27 s/65/64/ Feb 24 18:01:27 admiral0 meant: i know it's kinda bad to ask, but can anybody send me novacom>1.0.56 for linux 64bit? my pre 2 isn't detected by novacom on site. please have mercy of a poor linux hacker Feb 24 18:02:47 admiral0: I think it's on the palm developer site, I'll check Feb 24 18:02:47 lol 65bit Feb 24 18:02:47 mgschu: nope. latest doesn't detect pre 2 Feb 24 18:02:47 does anybody else have like 5 usb cords and 4 chargers for 2 phones? Feb 24 18:02:47 what version of linux are you using? Feb 24 18:02:47 dumbledore: 1 bit of extra fail Feb 24 18:02:47 lolol Feb 24 18:02:52 from http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1585 step 5 Feb 24 18:02:55 dumbledore: 1.0.56 Feb 24 18:02:56 ahh, nvm Feb 24 18:02:59 i seem to accumulate accessories from ebay phones Feb 24 18:03:04 oh. i thought you were using ubuntu Feb 24 18:03:21 * admiral0 uses archlinux Feb 24 18:03:44 ubuntu 10.10 is kickass imo. detected everything without having me to download any drivers. Feb 24 18:03:57 even hotkeys were ready to use out of the box Feb 24 18:03:58 TheVoid: Two chargers, aleph cables. Feb 24 18:04:13 but anyway, 2.1 on sprint pre anyone? Feb 24 18:04:20 dumbledore: maybe i failed with the install Feb 24 18:04:34 lol highly doubtful :P Feb 24 18:04:50 uggghhhh popping Feb 24 18:04:57 i hope flashing fixes it Feb 24 18:05:26 no way Feb 24 18:05:34 i was doing the right thing Feb 24 18:05:48 novacomd doesn't recognise the pre 2 Feb 24 18:05:58 did you root it? Feb 24 18:06:02 there are no extra udev rules Feb 24 18:06:16 dumbledore: root==konamicode? Feb 24 18:06:18 yeah Feb 24 18:06:21 admiral0: Seriously? I thought they were giving these out as dev devices Feb 24 18:06:23 done Feb 24 18:06:27 oh Feb 24 18:06:27 or webos20090606 Feb 24 18:06:33 yes Feb 24 18:06:37 dev mode is on Feb 24 18:06:44 * dumbledore is away: rebooting into ubuntu Feb 24 18:07:01 no virtualbox? Feb 24 18:07:29 * admiral0 goes to dinner Feb 24 18:07:35 i'll be back asap Feb 24 18:07:42 i want openvpn Feb 24 18:07:47 * mgschu is going to take another shot at getting ssh working Feb 24 18:09:49 back Feb 24 18:09:59 no virtualbox? Feb 24 18:10:00 slow reboot... Feb 24 18:10:02 nah Feb 24 18:10:55 can someone provide me the link for metadoctor wiki Feb 24 18:11:08 wiki or forum thread? Feb 24 18:11:18 wiki Feb 24 18:11:26 http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-tips-information-resources/221385-cross-platform-meta-doctor-guide-bypass-carrier-activation-etc.html Feb 24 18:11:32 thnx Feb 24 18:11:34 one sec Feb 24 18:11:54 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor Feb 24 18:12:15 go trenchcoat go! Feb 24 18:12:45 thanks :D Feb 24 18:13:06 same steps apply when metadoctoring 2.1 doctor? Feb 24 18:13:48 what are the benefits of 2.1 over 1.4.5 Feb 24 18:15:02 i wish the stock rom didnt force the modem update Feb 24 18:15:05 i'm back Feb 24 18:15:57 so Feb 24 18:16:08 no one has an updated novacom? Feb 24 18:16:50 nope Feb 24 18:16:57 yay airave came :D Feb 24 18:17:03 :\ Feb 24 18:17:20 my last hope: anyone in Early Access Program? Feb 24 18:17:42 novacomm isnt detecting your pre2? Feb 24 18:17:50 nope Feb 24 18:18:13 try running doctor 2.1 to the point where it installs drivers and asks you to plug in your phone Feb 24 18:18:28 plug in your phone and wait for the Next button to become available Feb 24 18:18:36 but dont push next Feb 24 18:19:11 when the next button becomes available, then your drivers are properly configured Feb 24 18:19:11 dumbledore: webOSDoctor.jar ? Feb 24 18:19:15 yeah Feb 24 18:19:19 Does the doctor work under linux? I thought they didn't provide the drivers with it. It certainly doesn't work for e Feb 24 18:19:23 *me Feb 24 18:19:26 yeah it works Feb 24 18:19:32 you gotta activate it under terminal Feb 24 18:20:00 dumbledore: How? Novacom works fine for me, but not the docs Feb 24 18:20:07 i think its "java -jar webosdoctorname.jar" Feb 24 18:20:12 yep Feb 24 18:20:22 waiting Feb 24 18:20:40 "next" is disabled :\ Feb 24 18:20:47 ok flash done, lets see if its fixed Feb 24 18:20:53 mgschu: docs as in documents or doctor? Feb 24 18:20:58 nope just popped Feb 24 18:20:59 admiral: did it install drivers? Feb 24 18:21:00 you can also try "java -jar webosdoctorname.jar --auto" Feb 24 18:21:21 dumbledore: doctor. It runs up until the point where it installs novacom under windows, but just sits there Feb 24 18:21:32 i may try to run as root Feb 24 18:22:04 oh :-/ Feb 24 18:22:13 idk, things just work for me :3 Feb 24 18:22:37 mgschu: are you running windows or linux? Feb 24 18:22:38 must be nice Feb 24 18:22:57 "next" disabled Feb 24 18:23:07 linux, ubuntu 10.10, dual boot with windows Feb 24 18:23:20 admiral0: I get the same Feb 24 18:23:26 hmm Feb 24 18:23:29 wierd Feb 24 18:23:36 not weird Feb 24 18:23:41 doctor works perfect with me in ubuntu and windows Feb 24 18:23:50 dumbledore: pre 2? Feb 24 18:23:55 original pre Feb 24 18:23:59 well Feb 24 18:24:02 * mgschu has sorted his ssh issues. No effing idea what was wrong with it, but works absolutely fine after doctor. Feb 24 18:24:16 then you have novacomd already running Feb 24 18:24:34 or something like that Feb 24 18:24:41 maybe, dont you have windows? Feb 24 18:24:56 admiral0, mgschu: I have the same problem Feb 24 18:25:21 I have no reason to doctor, but I'll see if I can get it to start. Feb 24 18:26:41 i see no native code in webosdoctor Feb 24 18:26:50 so no native implemented novacom Feb 24 18:26:58 admit it Feb 24 18:27:08 palm/hp screwed it Feb 24 18:28:33 anybody with aerly sdk access here? Feb 24 18:28:42 Okay...this is truly bizarre. Feb 24 18:28:42 i dont need SDK Feb 24 18:28:43 ... Feb 24 18:28:50 i need only novacom Feb 24 18:29:11 I love how you asked that right as the person who runs EA joins Feb 24 18:29:14 I just swapped my sprint comm board into a verizon pre plus...and it just booted and activated without doctoring or anything. Feb 24 18:29:27 dumbledore: It's working fine. Yesterday was a bad day for me Feb 24 18:29:38 halfhalo: i'm desperate :P Feb 24 18:29:39 even says sprint for the carrier in the top bar Feb 24 18:29:52 lol Feb 24 18:29:55 anyone know which thread the walk-through on replacing tokens is in? Feb 24 18:30:11 theres a writeup somewhere for the pixi Feb 24 18:30:28 djwhitey: in the tips and tricks forum, the "step by step guide to getting a pre plus on sprint" Feb 24 18:31:28 ty Feb 24 18:31:28 wtf, anyone of the german users , I just got the message that "Captive Portal" erkannt which seems to have something to do with wlan... which should not be as I only have got a fritzbox Feb 24 18:31:31 Hey M8s Feb 24 18:31:57 this happened since webos 2.1 Feb 24 18:33:00 admiral0: you should try to /msg chuqui Feb 24 18:33:33 has anyone ever come across 'ramdump' on /media/internal? Feb 24 18:33:50 ok now im getting a pop fizzle from the speaker Feb 24 18:36:01 ok now whenever it activates the speaker it pops, then i has interference type noise while its on, then it pops while deactivating Feb 24 18:40:59 i wonder if this coms board is making it pop Feb 24 18:41:55 mgschu: thanks Feb 24 18:44:25 i cant wait for my coms board to come Feb 24 18:44:40 my pre is dropping back to 1x and makes me so frustrated Feb 24 18:45:42 howdy folk! Feb 24 18:46:37 howdy! Feb 24 18:47:04 hi kind sir Feb 24 18:47:14 oh there's a telcel script now, SO awesome! I keep feeling bad for those folks in Mexico.. :( Feb 24 18:48:07 are there any folks here in the silicon valley area? if so, please join me in #webOS Feb 24 18:50:09 Do i really need the SDK for ubuntu to do the metadoctor thing? Feb 24 18:50:27 dumbledore: No Feb 24 18:50:46 this coms board has an asurion sticker on it, but the phone it came in had the warranty sticker intact Feb 24 18:50:55 ok Feb 24 18:52:24 TheVoid: the two are not mutually exclusive, just means you have a refurb. Which I believe still have warranties Feb 24 18:53:14 warranty? whats that? lol all seals broken already Feb 24 18:56:57 Now that we have flash, do you think we'll get adobe air apps running? Feb 24 18:57:33 ajay_: I want to test the Telcel script but my gf wouldn't let me touch the Pre... bah, why did I gave it to her in the first place? hehehe Feb 24 18:58:48 NuttyBunny: you in mexico?? haha.. Feb 24 18:59:31 torchie: yeah i'm finding 2.1.0 pretty slow.. even OC'd to 600, 1.4.5 at that speeed is way more useable Feb 24 19:00:04 ajay_: yep, Mexico :) And... I really don't find 2.1.0 that slow, are you on a Pre or Pre+? Feb 24 19:00:11 it's a bit odd, the hardware acceleration making launcher beautifully smooth and then having a lot of speed issues in apps Feb 24 19:00:15 NuttyBunny: Pre+ Feb 24 19:00:19 I'm on pre- Feb 24 19:00:42 NuttyBunny: I bet your gf would be more willing to let you metadoctor to 1.4.5.. she's missing out on many apps Feb 24 19:01:11 ajay_: Weird, it's not the fastest device ever, but it's certainly usable... and... well, that Pre already has 1.4.5 :D Feb 24 19:01:30 NuttyBunny: oh! was it hard to get 1.4.5 on there? Feb 24 19:01:32 whats the highest clockspeed anyone has run in 1.4.5? Feb 24 19:02:15 NuttyBunny: it's barely useable, imho.. LOT of lag, for anything (except launcher, of course) Feb 24 19:03:03 wow Feb 24 19:03:14 metadoctoring was never so easy! Feb 24 19:03:21 It's becoming a bit less usable to me :d Feb 24 19:03:32 chugs in Music even if it's the only thing open Feb 24 19:03:47 but god the launcher is so SEXY SMOOTH Feb 24 19:03:53 1.4.5 I used to run 1ghz no compcache Feb 24 19:04:39 ajay_: 1.4.5... long story short, I'm a dev and there once was a prerelease doctor for 1.4.5 on Telcel :) Feb 24 19:05:42 NuttyBunny: ah! did you check to see how much was diff btwn that and release docs? Feb 24 19:06:00 anyone tested 2.1 on pre2? even possible yet? Feb 24 19:06:43 ajay_: No official 1.4.5 Doctor was ever released for the Telcel Pre :( Feb 24 19:06:55 NuttyBunny: i mean other (CDMA?) 1.4.5 pres Feb 24 19:07:40 i know you wouldn't run a dev rel once release was out :) Feb 24 19:08:58 comm board is what controls evdo/1x and signal strength. am i right? Feb 24 19:09:13 ajay_: In Mexico the CDMA Pres that were sold were from "Iusacell", but those were just preactivated Sprint Pres, so, they got all the Sprint updates... Telcel, on the other hand, gave you the Pre in its box, ready for activation with them, and we were stuck to whatever they approved :( Feb 24 19:09:53 I never took the time to check the differences between that prerelease doc and the other carriers docs :) Feb 24 19:10:28 NuttyBunny: I ask because i wonder if any bugs were addressed between what you have and what went out to normals Feb 24 19:10:43 NuttyBunny: do you dev on webOS? spanish, english, or both? Feb 24 19:11:32 english, Ares at the time, and because localization is a bit difficult in Ares, I left the app that way. The update for the app should come for Mojo and several languages :) Feb 24 19:13:30 NuttyBunny: several? more than en+span? (or castillian maybe i should say!) Feb 24 19:16:00 well, en+sp, and whatever other languages the community helps me with :) Feb 24 19:16:19 NuttyBunny: what app(s)? Feb 24 19:16:39 right now in the cat, there's a subnet calculator, for networks Feb 24 19:45:52 hello all Feb 24 19:49:06 yo Feb 24 19:50:01 does anyone know if it matters what order the tokens are in in castle.xml? Feb 24 19:50:31 NuttyBunny: man if you keep coming/going offline i'll have to rm you from my contacts .. those beeps are annoying! :) (on the desktop client) Feb 24 19:51:38 on skype? sorry :) Feb 24 19:52:13 ajay_: turn off the sounds Feb 24 19:52:37 Hello, I'm a noob that needs a little help with meta-doc Feb 24 19:52:40 how goes all Feb 24 19:52:41 today i have installed webos 2.1 on my pre- :-D --- it runs great :-D Feb 24 19:53:00 WebOSArni: congrats Feb 24 19:53:12 I'm running ubuntu 10.04 inside VirtualBox inside Win7 trying to metadoc a Verizon Pre Plus Feb 24 19:53:13 wow 136 users Feb 24 19:53:14 thanks --- just the vpn makes my hair grey :-D Feb 24 19:53:30 what is the problem david372 Feb 24 19:53:33 I'm having trouble with the Makefile Feb 24 19:53:39 I've disconnected from skype, I'm doing some tests :) hehehe Feb 24 19:53:53 error message? Feb 24 19:54:00 after I edit the Makefile I'm not sure if I need to rebuild the Doctor? Feb 24 19:54:05 david372: why not use cygwin on your windows machine? Feb 24 19:55:26 have anybody managed to run the vpnc in webos without an domain? Feb 24 19:56:09 how to get the state of the ringer switch? Feb 24 19:56:48 Do I use make CARRIER=verizonwireless unpack patch pack? Feb 24 19:57:16 oil: haha.. Feb 24 19:58:01 NuttyBunny: Oh you can keep doing your testing, don't stop on my acct.. it's mainly funny that you're the new contact and you're the one w/ the on/offline :) Feb 24 19:59:14 ok :)... anyway I've finished testing :) Feb 24 20:00:10 Meta. Not sure. Dont know much about cygwin Feb 24 20:00:42 at the end you make the same steps as inside the VM Feb 24 20:01:00 I've spent two days learning VirtualBox and Ubuntu... Feb 24 20:01:32 david where are you from and what device do you want to update? Feb 24 20:02:03 Indiana - US and want to update a Verizon Pre Plus Feb 24 20:02:25 and skip first use Feb 24 20:02:30 shit --- my doctor is for german pre - Feb 24 20:02:46 to use only as a wifi running 2.1 Feb 24 20:04:44 NuttyBunny: it doesn't look like you did :) Feb 24 20:05:21 lol Feb 24 20:05:38 its taking forver to sign into my palm profile Feb 24 20:05:51 yay :D Feb 24 20:06:43 ajay_: hehehe.. I know, I know, I had to relogin once again ;) Feb 24 20:06:45 its rebooting Feb 24 20:07:10 anyone with experiance building a meta-doc with altered Makefile? Feb 24 20:08:04 what do you mean by altered? :) Feb 24 20:08:07 david372: depends what you're altering.. that's how I always do it Feb 24 20:08:14 it expects to be altered, in fact Feb 24 20:08:51 when i change the Makefile what next do I rebuild the doc? Feb 24 20:09:13 what exactly is a.. franken pre? Feb 24 20:10:00 a franken pre is any pre with parts from different devices :) Feb 24 20:10:12 I want to bypass first use to use as wifi device Feb 24 20:10:26 god i think i just jizzed Feb 24 20:10:32 scrolling is so smooth in 2.1 Feb 24 20:10:40 Yes, I love it :) Feb 24 20:10:42 and I need to change the Makefile but I'm not sure what to do next? Feb 24 20:10:54 how do I rebuild the Doctor? Feb 24 20:10:57 dumbledore: and that's about it :) Feb 24 20:11:04 :D Feb 24 20:11:11 david372: have you looked at the wiki yet? Feb 24 20:11:21 all night Feb 24 20:11:25 david372: if you define everyting from your carrier and device inside the Makefile, just type make Feb 24 20:11:37 s/everyting/everything/ Feb 24 20:11:38 NuttyBunny meant: david372: if you define everything from your carrier and device inside the Makefile, just type make Feb 24 20:11:43 someone smart help me Feb 24 20:11:58 Where the shit is angry birds? Feb 24 20:12:06 I'm about to have a panic attack Feb 24 20:12:08 make. Thats all Feb 24 20:12:41 kill_dano: angry birds? there, in the catalog, unless you did something wrong :) Feb 24 20:12:52 wheres navigation?!?! Feb 24 20:12:55 well I have everything Feb 24 20:13:03 but angry birds is nowhere Feb 24 20:13:04 thats one major thing i need on my pre Feb 24 20:13:14 anything after make? Feb 24 20:13:15 i did the 2.1 script Feb 24 20:13:28 david372: yes, what dr are you trying to do? Feb 24 20:13:44 in fact... why doesn't everyone just use the scripts??? Feb 24 20:13:48 meta Feb 24 20:13:57 and I need to bypass first use Feb 24 20:14:50 any idea on how to get back sprint nav on my pre Feb 24 20:14:59 david372: meta? which meta one? Feb 24 20:15:20 trying to meta a verizon pre plus with meta-doc to get to 2.1 Feb 24 20:16:17 david: if you edit the Makefile and uncomment BYPASS_FIRST_USE_APP=1, then when you use the script your Dr will bypass the first use app Feb 24 20:17:05 OK. Is it that simple. I just edit the Makefile and type make in the meta-doctor dir? Feb 24 20:17:36 oh god Feb 24 20:17:45 even a vpn! <3 Feb 24 20:17:59 Come here webos 2.1, let me get up into your internals :D Feb 24 20:18:00 kill_dano: go to the palm page, under support, look for the link to edit your profile, login, and .. what profile version do you have? I bet you did something wrong and have 9.9.9 Feb 24 20:18:15 ok Feb 24 20:19:09 https://ps.palmws.com/palmcsext/console/pages/LoginPage.iface Feb 24 20:19:10 damn you for being so right Feb 24 20:19:14 9.9.9 Feb 24 20:19:23 what device you have? Feb 24 20:19:32 Sprint plus Feb 24 20:19:52 mmm.. franken pre? :) Feb 24 20:19:57 yeah Feb 24 20:20:03 yay Feb 24 20:20:12 i have precentral feeds Feb 24 20:20:32 I used the script and loged in with my 1.4.5 profile Feb 24 20:20:39 wat Feb 24 20:20:52 you logged into your 1.4.5 profile on 2.1? Feb 24 20:20:54 andf then I used the unmask palm Feb 24 20:21:04 yeah Feb 24 20:21:09 but what script did you use? is there a sprint-plus script? Feb 24 20:21:10 and then I unmasked Feb 24 20:21:22 no I used the normal sprint script Feb 24 20:22:00 for intents and purposes I have a palm pre minus Feb 24 20:22:26 mmm... well, I don't know exactly the internals of the process for a plussed sprint pre, but yes, it sounds like it should have worked Feb 24 20:22:36 we definitely need an overclock Feb 24 20:23:15 should I just try it again? Feb 24 20:23:21 make a new doctore Feb 24 20:23:28 kill_dano: Do a full erase and create a new profile Feb 24 20:23:42 if it comes as 9.9.9, something's wrong in the script Feb 24 20:23:45 why would I make a new profile? Feb 24 20:23:56 to see if it comes at 9.9.9 :) Feb 24 20:24:01 oh Feb 24 20:24:02 terminal doesn't seem to work on pre 2 Feb 24 20:24:06 webos 2.0.1 Feb 24 20:24:11 ok Feb 24 20:24:16 it it comes as 1.4.5 then you need to reset your profile version :S Feb 24 20:24:21 okay... looks like I still get disconnected if I use wifi :( Feb 24 20:24:21 if it does then there is something wrong with the doctor? Feb 24 20:24:30 admiral0: no, there's no way to do terminal shell at this time on 2.x :( Feb 24 20:24:40 ash :) Feb 24 20:24:46 kill_dano: yes :( Feb 24 20:24:46 gah! Feb 24 20:24:51 *ssh Feb 24 20:24:53 NuttyBunny: why? Feb 24 20:25:02 what if it doesn;t come up as 9.9.9 and it comes up as 2.1? what then? Feb 24 20:25:04 RMind: upgrade your routers firmware Feb 24 20:25:28 kill_dano: No, it won't come as 2.1, with the script it should come up as 1.4.5 Feb 24 20:25:35 oh Feb 24 20:25:58 well I think it must have worked because I was never able to log into my old profile on 2.0 Feb 24 20:26:03 it happens on all wifi Feb 24 20:26:06 admiral0: I don't know, there used to be one called Secure Shell, but they took it from the Preware feeds, supposedly it had a security hole Feb 24 20:26:34 RMind: but on 2.1? Feb 24 20:26:40 yup Feb 24 20:26:56 Mine is up constantly in 2.1 Feb 24 20:27:01 just my wire connection Feb 24 20:27:04 from what im seeing, i think 2.1 allows people sign in to 1.4.5 profiles Feb 24 20:27:09 2.0 didn't Feb 24 20:27:14 no, no Feb 24 20:27:18 assuming 2.1 and 2.0 are different builds Feb 24 20:27:35 well i wasn;t able to log into 2.1 either Feb 24 20:27:40 oh Feb 24 20:27:40 wifi comes back fine, but wirc disconnects Feb 24 20:27:43 until I use dthe script and shut off backup Feb 24 20:28:00 i just used my google account to restore my numbers Feb 24 20:28:07 i can care less about texts :3 Feb 24 20:28:22 well I care about the apps I bought Feb 24 20:28:57 dumbledore: am thinking of trying a new profile for 2.1--what was your method for moving all contacts to Google? Feb 24 20:29:09 just curious, if you found a way that worked 100% Feb 24 20:29:40 on 1.4.5, i used an app from preware to export all my contacts to a .csv file Feb 24 20:29:42 do you think I may have messed up the unmasking? Feb 24 20:29:48 i then uploaded that to google voice Feb 24 20:30:00 dumbledore: what's the app? Feb 24 20:30:09 now lets try 3G :) Feb 24 20:30:10 save/restore? Feb 24 20:30:16 no, not that one Feb 24 20:30:23 it was an export app/patch Feb 24 20:30:35 i think it was export contacts to csv patch Feb 24 20:30:36 Everyone: If your profile appears on the Palm page as 9.9.9, it's because you're using a combination of carrier/version that Palm doesn't recognize, the only combinations that work are Pre Plus Germany O2 and 2.1, for all other carriers we must fool the Palm servers into thinking we're into 1.4.5, hence the scripts Feb 24 20:32:48 I'm new to all of this, in the coming weeks, will there be an "official" internals doctor for the CDMA pre+/-, or will one always have to metadoctor? Feb 24 20:33:46 Jmarlow: never will doctors be distributed Feb 24 20:33:50 Jmarlow: unlikely, we will always have to metadoctor, that's for the community's sake Feb 24 20:34:07 wgreenhouse: are you still here? Feb 24 20:34:15 dumbledore: yeah Feb 24 20:34:25 ah, that makes sense, it's nice enough that HP is letting Internals do what it does Feb 24 20:34:27 wgreenhouse: the name of the patch is "Send All Contacts via Email" Feb 24 20:34:29 kill_dano: The problem is not with the unmasking, the unmasking comes after the activation, the problem is in the activation Feb 24 20:34:40 dumbledore: awesome, thank you Feb 24 20:34:46 you're welcome Feb 24 20:34:53 Then why would it let me log in at all? I never used to let me log in Feb 24 20:35:04 Not being great with code, I'm a bit intimidated on how to do it, I'm waiting to do the upgrade until it's in the beta phase Feb 24 20:35:09 ah perhaps because of the backup being turned off Feb 24 20:35:18 dumbledore: handy for backup and use with a desktop address book, too Feb 24 20:35:23 after you install the patch, tap on Contacts on the upper left hand corner, and you will see "Save all Via Email" Feb 24 20:35:25 yep Feb 24 20:35:37 however, I'm incredibly impressed with how brilliant all of you are with this though! Feb 24 20:35:37 Jmarlow: metadoctoring isn't really coding Feb 24 20:36:03 ah Feb 24 20:36:12 not hardcore anyway--more like the configuration/compiling process if you're trying something from source in Linux Feb 24 20:36:24 some tinkering with make settings, not rewriting the program :-P Feb 24 20:36:59 true, well you guys are fantastic, I just wanted to thank you. Keep it up! Feb 24 20:38:06 * dumbledore is away: rebooting into 7 Feb 24 20:38:17 morning. I lost backlog from the last 8 hours. Feb 24 20:41:53 after I change the Makefile and run make CARRIER=verizonwireless unpack patch pack. Whre do I find the file I made and how do I run it? Feb 24 20:42:25 just doctored and loged into a different profile ... 9.9.9 Feb 24 20:42:35 I mean just full-erased Feb 24 20:42:35 mornin Rod Feb 24 20:43:05 kill_dano has a problem, he has a Sprint Pre Plus and used the script, and got 9.9.9 version :) Feb 24 20:43:41 The palm profile does see me as having a sprint palm pre Feb 24 20:44:10 anyone? Feb 24 20:44:15 how do i know if i have 9.9.9? Feb 24 20:44:30 google search "palm profile" and log into the first site Feb 24 20:44:42 oh Feb 24 20:45:49 rofl, webos is making my pc look slow Feb 24 20:46:32 NuttyBunny: that's probably cause he restored the palm-build-info, then full erased, and then logged in, hence the masquerade is not active and causes 9.9.9 Feb 24 20:47:02 dumbledore: http://palm.com/palmprofile Feb 24 20:47:04 you guys are referring to the OS version? Feb 24 20:47:10 yeah i got it rwhitby Feb 24 20:47:31 its reporting 1.40.50 for me Feb 24 20:47:53 um wat Feb 24 20:48:02 even in device info its reporting 1.4.5 Feb 24 20:48:07 1.40.50 is right Feb 24 20:48:12 it adds zeros for some reason Feb 24 20:48:20 lol Feb 24 20:48:35 so its normal for Device Info to read 1.4.5 when I'm really on 2.1? Feb 24 20:48:51 It's normal for haxers Feb 24 20:48:59 :3 Feb 24 20:48:59 until you unmasq it, yes Feb 24 20:49:05 nice Feb 24 20:49:13 until you unmask it? Feb 24 20:49:24 then it says 2.1? Feb 24 20:49:41 yeah Feb 24 20:49:45 that's the whole point...when you run first app your profile is registered as being on 1.4.5 and eligible for access to those apps in the catalog Feb 24 20:49:46 we have to fool palms servers Feb 24 20:49:46 I thought it staied on 1.4.5? Feb 24 20:49:55 rod: kill_dano said that he doctored, and his profile was at 9.9.9, then unmasqed, full erased and came as 9.9.9 (the second one is correct, it should come as 9.9.9, but the first one not) Feb 24 20:49:56 will anyone help a noob? Feb 24 20:49:57 okok Feb 24 20:50:09 Then you unmasq it so that preware and other apps know you're on 2.1 Feb 24 20:51:29 well, by the questions being asked, it's clear that folks here have not read the thread or watched the installation videos. Feb 24 20:51:44 So that's the place to start. Feb 24 20:52:27 I've been reading all night and day and watching vids but i'm stuck on one simple issue Feb 24 20:52:35 have anybody vpnc running on webos 2.1? Feb 24 20:52:43 watching video Feb 24 20:52:51 lol "i apoligize for my voice" Feb 24 20:53:04 david372: the video clearly shows where the output files are. Feb 24 20:53:04 poor girl... has to appoligize for her weird voice Feb 24 20:53:37 but how do I install them from ubuntu? Feb 24 20:54:05 same as any other webOS Doctor Feb 24 20:54:19 I've never done it before Feb 24 20:54:23 java -jar webosname.jar Feb 24 20:54:27 open terminal Feb 24 20:54:34 ok Feb 24 20:54:45 did you download the webosfile? Feb 24 20:54:52 webos doctor* Feb 24 20:54:56 yes Feb 24 20:55:03 ok, you know the directory? Feb 24 20:55:12 not really Feb 24 20:55:14 (where you downloaded the file) Feb 24 20:55:25 yes meta-doctor Feb 24 20:55:30 ok Feb 24 20:55:40 open terminal and go to the meta-doctor directory Feb 24 20:56:03 ok Feb 24 20:56:18 and type java -jar webosname.jar (note webosname.jar is the name of your doctor file name) Feb 24 20:56:41 terminal & terminus don't work Feb 24 20:57:03 trying Feb 24 20:57:54 david372: did you get it? Feb 24 20:58:08 I hace two builds in the build dir Feb 24 20:58:27 one is 1.4.5 and the other 2.1.0 Feb 24 20:58:36 are they in .jar files? Feb 24 20:58:53 no Feb 24 20:58:59 oh... Feb 24 20:59:53 under meta-doc i have 5 folders and Makefile palm-build-info and palm-nuild-info-unmasqed Feb 24 21:00:04 david372: check your PM Feb 24 21:01:28 admiral0: dumbledore is referring to a terminal on the host, not on the device. Feb 24 21:03:32 i have ssh up and running with keys Feb 24 21:03:42 problem is terminal on device Feb 24 21:07:15 how to restart luna? Feb 24 21:08:56 i'm trying to go through the meta-sprint script stepwise to integrate a custom castle.xml (tokens)... should I just add "CUSTOM_XML = castle.xml" to the make call on ln71? Feb 24 21:09:23 i see that param in Rod's section Feb 24 21:10:45 damn can't find that terminal app that works on 2.x.. Feb 24 21:13:37 rwhitby: re ssh issues yesterday, I figured out what it was. authorized_keys referenced root@Dr, and I had renamed phone to schumo Feb 24 21:13:39 ajay_: same problem here Feb 24 21:14:05 ajay_: use a remote desktop app on the phone to connect to your pc with novacom running :) Feb 24 21:14:18 or should i just do a clobber followed by: make ENABLE_DEVELOPER_MODE=1 AUTO_INSTALL_PREWARE=1 DISABLE_UPLOAD_DAEMON=1 DISABLE_UPDATE_DAEMON=1 CUSTOM_CARRIER_LIST=Sprint CUSTOM_MODEL_LIST=P100EWW CUSTOM_WEBOS_DMSET=base CUSTOM_CARRIER_DMSET=a CUSTOM_BUILD_INFO=palm-build-info CUSTOM_WEBOS_TARBALL=webOS.tar DEVICE=preplus CARRIER=wr unpack >make patch >[fix tokens in castle.xml] > make pack Feb 24 21:22:23 rwhitby: which do you think? i suppose i can try the former first... Feb 24 21:24:43 djwhitey: I would not dream to hold you back from the joy of experimentation. try them both :) Feb 24 21:25:46 (that's my way of saying it's 8am, I haven't had breakfast yet, and have not been following what you're doing) Feb 24 21:25:59 più entusiasmo e arrapaggine Feb 24 21:26:03 so far it appears that the sprint metascript doctor works on a freshly plussed pre without doing a token swap Feb 24 21:27:53 idontwan2know: ask kill_dano, who apparently used the sprint script and got 9.9.9 profiles Feb 24 21:30:42 yeah, I've got 9.9.9, but I didn't turn backups off after my last activation, so that was gonna happen regardless. Feb 24 21:31:33 will get around to addressing that later Feb 24 21:33:37 rwhitby: ok going with the CUSTOM_XML = castle.xml thought, I'll need to add my tokens to ./build/preplus-p101ueude-wr-2.1.0/webOS/castle.xml & copy it to ./meta_doctor, right? (the castle.xml's differ between preplus & pre) Feb 24 21:34:00 s/meta_doctor/meta-doctor Feb 24 21:35:14 I doubt they differ from Pre to Pre+. They do differ from 1.4 to 2.0 though. Feb 24 21:36:40 i did a compare in notepad++ preplus-p101ueude-wr-2.1.0\webOS\castle.xml and pre-p100eww-sprint-1.4.5\webOS\castle.xml and they're different Feb 24 21:36:58 right. 1.4 vs 2.0 Feb 24 21:37:29 so go with the 2.1 one then right? Feb 24 21:39:11 looks like the big difference is the voluming in 2.1 Feb 24 21:40:10 rwhitby: did you see my post about the sim card check in the meta doctor? Feb 24 21:40:32 i tried bypass activation but it still comes up Feb 24 21:40:36 sk4jc1: did you ever get around that? Feb 24 21:40:38 guess not Feb 24 21:40:58 i can get all the way in but i cannot sign into a profile Feb 24 21:41:07 by also skipping first use Feb 24 21:41:58 sk4jc1: yeah, dunno. Feb 24 21:42:04 am i the first person to try this without a sim card? Feb 24 21:42:28 bypass_activation is supposed to remove the sim card check Feb 24 21:42:42 tried it a few times. Feb 24 21:42:57 ill work on getting a sim card and try again. Feb 24 21:44:54 I won't be able to test no sim card until Monday at least Feb 24 21:45:22 I can test no sim later this afternoon Feb 24 21:45:34 I know it works with a dead, non working sim in it Feb 24 21:46:18 k running the meta-sprint with CUSTOM_XML=castle.xml added. cross fingers that sprint actually activates it this time Feb 24 21:47:13 * rwhitby bbl - time to earn the dollars Feb 24 21:47:35 thanks Feb 24 21:48:03 my friend might have an old sim i can have but it might be useful to document Feb 24 21:48:22 yeah, the SIM I'm using is an unactivated ATT sim Feb 24 21:48:28 So, who is the hawt nerdy chick who made the 2.1 script how to: video on webos internals' youtube?> Feb 24 21:48:31 I can test it with a network locked sim later Feb 24 21:48:35 she sounds sexy Feb 24 21:49:18 kill_dano: urge to bitch about pigeonholing and the screwed up state of the patriarchy in the US rissssinnnnngggggggggg Feb 24 21:49:37 wut Feb 24 21:50:16 too many big words. remember, I'm american. we don;t put much into education Feb 24 21:51:14 "hawt nerdy chick" + "she sounds sexy" = pigeonholing + patriarchy since it completely removes any basis on talent or skills with physical appearance! Feb 24 21:53:28 kill_dano: i believe malpha from precentral made the video (http://forums.precentral.net/members/malpha.html) (http://twitter.com/screwdestiny) Feb 24 21:53:57 she mentioned recording it in the thread i think Feb 24 21:55:53 can we bypass activation and first use app after we install 2.1? Feb 24 21:56:05 yes Feb 24 21:56:08 very interesting Feb 24 21:56:12 how? Feb 24 21:56:14 link please Feb 24 21:57:39 you can either delete /var/luna/preferences/ran_first_use and /var/luna/preferences/first-use-profile-created or look for the patch Feb 24 21:57:52 palm.com/profile reports 9.9.9, but I just downloaded the homebrew documentation app and appear to have access to everything in the app catalog Feb 24 21:58:14 idontwan2know: no, you don't Feb 24 21:58:20 try to download angry birds Feb 24 21:58:32 try to download any paid app Feb 24 21:58:58 The homebrew documentation app IS a paid app. Feb 24 21:59:30 you're right, sorry :) Feb 24 21:59:47 no problem...I would be skeptical too Feb 24 22:00:24 nuttybunny: how would i get the patch? Feb 24 22:00:44 rwhitby: if you use the script to install 2.1 will it see the changes in the Makefile in the Meta-Doctor directory? Feb 24 22:02:28 anyone? Feb 24 22:03:34 david372: yes, but many of those changes will be overridden by the script Feb 24 22:03:38 depends on when you change it Feb 24 22:03:44 before or after you rin teh script Feb 24 22:04:41 how do I reply to poeple? Feb 24 22:04:54 type Feb 24 22:04:54 type the name followed by a colon Feb 24 22:05:07 kill_dano: like this Feb 24 22:05:10 mgschu; I love you Feb 24 22:05:14 Hi guys Feb 24 22:05:14 nope Feb 24 22:05:18 didnt make a sound Feb 24 22:05:18 * mgschu blushes Feb 24 22:05:29 some people talk to me and it makes a sound Feb 24 22:05:31 colon, a semi just won't cut it Feb 24 22:05:36 oh Feb 24 22:05:42 kill_dano: we changed it after we started the script Feb 24 22:05:48 and it only makes a sound on their end Feb 24 22:05:57 mgschu: blah Feb 24 22:06:00 anyone got an idea how to run the firstuse app from novaterm on 2.1? Feb 24 22:06:13 david372: you changed the makefile whilst the script was running? Feb 24 22:06:33 mgschu: yes Feb 24 22:06:40 kam: luna-send Feb 24 22:06:56 nuttybunny: angrybirds is not available. weird. Feb 24 22:07:03 david372: I would mod the script.. not the make file Feb 24 22:07:18 luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.applicationManager/launch '{"id":"com.palm.app.firstuse"}' Feb 24 22:07:22 idontwan2know you have the same issue I have Feb 24 22:07:25 But HAWX installed fine Feb 24 22:07:40 my Dr. 9.9.9 on me Feb 24 22:07:45 kill_dano: I'm too dumb to mod the script Feb 24 22:08:07 idontwannaknow: I'm just gonna make a new doctor and try again... Feb 24 22:08:17 dammit, still not activating on Sprint Feb 24 22:08:51 Yeah most of my games installed fine. but I can;t find any angry birds anyware Feb 24 22:08:55 everyone should get 1.4.5 on their profiles.... What I did was redoctor to the lowest webOS version I could install, login to my profile (thus getting 1.4.x), and then use the script to doctor to 2.1 Feb 24 22:09:51 Yeah, I'll be doing that later...I was under the impression that a 9.9.9 profile wouldn't be able to access pretty much anything Feb 24 22:10:33 I'm on a GSM- with ver as 2.1.0 and can access everything Feb 24 22:10:43 it launched the gesture tutorial Feb 24 22:10:46 how does one mod the script Feb 24 22:10:47 weird Feb 24 22:10:47 Well u GSM fellas got it easy Feb 24 22:10:48 idontwan2knoe: No, it's supposed that you wouldn't get access to paid apps, Feb 24 22:11:00 well shit Feb 24 22:11:06 Anybody know where the app controllers for exhibition mode are? I've found the image used on the clock, but can't find where it's called from Feb 24 22:11:09 mgschu: yes, your device/version combo is valid, so you get 2.1.0 :P Feb 24 22:11:18 mgschu: how does one mod the script Feb 24 22:11:32 idontwan2knoe: did you ever use the leaked dr? 2.0.1? Feb 24 22:11:32 mgschu: all it is is a new stage for the application, I think Feb 24 22:11:36 so look into that Feb 24 22:11:39 NuttyBunny: :) Feb 24 22:11:41 kill_dano: no Feb 24 22:11:47 mgschu: that question goes on the early access dev forums (NDA) :) Feb 24 22:11:55 sry Feb 24 22:11:58 Govnah has an example, I think Feb 24 22:12:04 an example that isn't covered by NDA :p Feb 24 22:12:16 dumbledore: go to the scripts folder and open the appropriate script with your favourite text editor Feb 24 22:12:19 NuttyBunny: yeah, but I have access to *most* paid apps...angry birds is the only one I've found so far that is not available. Feb 24 22:13:10 mmm... perhaps you have access to Pre-1.4.5 paid apps Feb 24 22:13:20 hey I have a Q ... Afgter we unmask the 2.1 pre... will the profile say 9.9.9 or 2.1 ?? Feb 24 22:13:32 after the unmask the profile stays at 1.4.5 Feb 24 22:13:40 thanx Feb 24 22:13:41 but Preware will properly ID it as 2.1 Feb 24 22:14:05 a device reporting 2.1 that isn't an O2 Pre+ will trigger the 9.9.9 because it's an unrecognized device combo Feb 24 22:14:41 If I don't find any other important apps that don't work, I may just leave it the way it is...I like angry birds, but not enough to go through another two doctors just for that one game. Feb 24 22:15:00 ok guys, I'm running 2.1 on an unlocked SFR pre+, The app catalog works with paid apps the profile page on palms site says i have 2.1.0 but after the restore profile completed I have a Dr Skipped Firstlaunch in my palm profile. Feb 24 22:15:09 well, I went through about 8 doctors to get my profile at 1.4.5 and all my apps :D Feb 24 22:15:41 kam: I have the same name on my profile, but everything else works :S Feb 24 22:15:51 kam: shouldn't have that Feb 24 22:15:57 unless your doctor was told to skip activation Feb 24 22:16:00 and I won't doctor again after 3 hours of restoring apps :D Feb 24 22:16:17 hmm it used to work ok on 1.4.5 Feb 24 22:16:37 rstoring apps takes about 5 days for me lol Feb 24 22:16:37 Hmm...HP could have come up with a better looking version of their logo for the boot screen Feb 24 22:16:42 having the two profiles causes some REALLY screwy behavior Feb 24 22:16:44 kam: I have the same, and I'm pretty sure I didn't set that flag Feb 24 22:16:59 any way to unscrew that? Feb 24 22:17:18 kam: not sure yet Feb 24 22:17:42 any one used Jason Robitalle's flash install? Feb 24 22:18:02 kill_dano: not yet, but I was going to try that later today Feb 24 22:18:09 me too Feb 24 22:18:28 after I un f*$% my palm profile's 9.9.9 Feb 24 22:18:57 hmm, weird i can't install any apps using WOSQI Feb 24 22:19:23 it finishes with a blank ERROR box Feb 24 22:19:37 u are using old WOSQI Feb 24 22:19:42 use 4.x Feb 24 22:19:55 guys, you are all missing the easiest of solutions Feb 24 22:20:07 move to Germany Feb 24 22:20:11 haha Feb 24 22:20:35 That involves buying a ne wphone Feb 24 22:20:41 kill_dano: oops, u re right, wrong shortcut, my mistake Feb 24 22:20:44 pre 33333 Feb 24 22:20:50 pre 33,333 Feb 24 22:21:03 delet the old one Feb 24 22:32:08 anybody know where to grab my old SMS messages data structure from my old device to move to the new one? Feb 24 22:33:20 would anyone use a scrim for agenda view on exhibition mode? Feb 24 22:40:23 kfife: you can use save/restore to save it, but not restore it (too dangerous) Feb 24 22:58:23 anyone else feeling that their Pres are *colder* since 2.1? Feb 24 22:58:57 that's node.js and the activity manager doing their job Feb 24 22:59:30 interesting Feb 24 22:59:31 I look forward to my extended battery life Feb 24 22:59:41 the wave launcher is still in 2.1 Feb 24 22:59:55 I thought that was going away/had gone away? Feb 24 23:00:09 I love the wave Feb 24 23:00:12 rwhitby: do you know if the Time exhibition is in an application or part of a framework Feb 24 23:00:42 RagingMind: it's pretty, but I can't ever remember using it except to wow the heathens with Feb 24 23:02:04 idontwan2know, that's what I love about it ;) Feb 24 23:02:20 especially at a bar with drunk friends Feb 24 23:05:28 can i flash my pre through a VM? Feb 24 23:06:01 depends if your VM does USB properly Feb 24 23:06:05 most dont Feb 24 23:06:15 virtual box doesnt work Feb 24 23:06:17 A joke from HP? /usr/palm/sysmgr/images/crash.png Feb 24 23:06:25 * oilsworkn always copies dr to windows to run Feb 24 23:06:36 mgschu: i actually use that as my wallpaper now :) Feb 24 23:06:37 mgschu: that's been in there for a while Feb 24 23:06:51 since at least 1.3.1 Feb 24 23:07:18 Found it whilst changing back to the palm bootscreen Feb 24 23:09:41 good afternoon all, i keep getting an installation failed on the driver install during the doctor on my mac. anyone have ideas? Feb 24 23:10:18 hmmm... Now I am getting errors that the app database is almost full under 2.1... Feb 24 23:10:29 lol Feb 24 23:10:53 how do you guys copy files from the VM over to windows? Feb 24 23:11:07 sneakernet Feb 24 23:11:55 lol ok Feb 24 23:11:59 thumb drive, or bridge your network connection and copy over to a shared drive Feb 24 23:12:14 yeah, there is the hostfolder thing Feb 24 23:12:15 yeah, ubuntu copies it but im unable to see it in windwos Feb 24 23:12:42 if i browse my network through ubuntu, i can see it Feb 24 23:12:51 if i go through windows, it wont show Feb 24 23:13:07 hmmm, worked for me Feb 24 23:13:30 google "virtual box shared folder" Feb 24 23:13:32 follow directions Feb 24 23:13:43 enjoy success Feb 24 23:14:18 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=virtual+box+shared+folder Feb 24 23:14:30 :) Feb 24 23:17:06 * rwhitby flashes a P101UEU with 2.1.0, official doctor with no modifications. It feels weird doing so. Feb 24 23:21:16 that will be my "control" device Feb 24 23:21:53 is it possible to mess with the home screen? Feb 24 23:23:41 sweet jesus my sprint pre- is activated on the network now & i'm signed into my profile Feb 24 23:24:46 .::rwhitby::. it took flashing back to 1.4.5, then back to 2.1.0 to get past the dreaded "Activation error" Feb 24 23:25:10 djwhitey: did you update the wiki page? Feb 24 23:25:17 summing up video now, though she beat me to it Feb 24 23:25:26 yea only step 1 though Feb 24 23:25:34 ok Feb 24 23:25:52 pass me the youtube URL when you're done and I'll feature it Feb 24 23:26:03 djwhitey: this is my next step after i get my ATT phone working Feb 24 23:26:15 with noSIM Feb 24 23:26:27 anybody knows how the homescreen is called in luna? Feb 24 23:26:44 ill probably get it working with sim and just update the wiki Feb 24 23:40:21 rwhitby: i saw you're a committer on gitorious Feb 24 23:40:42 do you know ow's internally called the homescreen? Feb 24 23:40:55 or is it composed from a couple of pieces Feb 24 23:42:00 admiral0: your terminology doesn't make sense for a webOS device Feb 24 23:42:22 why? Feb 24 23:43:21 if i got it right (took a look @ statusbar patches) homescreen or initial screen is formed from some parts Feb 24 23:43:58 i want to see them and understand Feb 25 00:03:55 whats Sim Toolkit doing on the menu Feb 25 00:07:22 any way i can get back sprint navigation Feb 25 00:11:14 SIM toolkit is probably there because the rom is designed for a GSM device Feb 25 00:11:19 Sprint Nav on the other hand, no idea Feb 25 00:11:43 I'll look to see if it's possible to transplant from the Sprint 1.4.5 doctor into 2.1, but no promises! Feb 25 00:12:53 yeah i've been meaning to handle this toolkit.. can it safely be deleted? Feb 25 00:13:51 I'm picking up a spare Sprint Pre here in a few minutes to use as a test bed for 2.x. Is there a way to create a new Palm Profile for an unregistered device? Feb 25 00:14:24 I don't see it in /usr/palm/applications tho.. Feb 25 00:16:13 updatedb takes a minute on the phone.. ;^) Feb 25 00:18:47 do you think if i were to simply just copy over the sprint navigation app from my pixi to my pre, it would work? Feb 25 00:19:12 no Feb 25 00:19:21 it has dependencies Feb 25 00:19:26 oh ok Feb 25 00:19:35 if you got all of them, then possibly Feb 25 00:20:14 You can also put the carrier tar in your metadoctor and they will be installed when you doctor Feb 25 00:20:30 if you're actually a customer of that carrier, of course Feb 25 00:20:38 it wouldn't work from the pixi to the pre, they have different processors Feb 25 00:20:56 good point Feb 25 00:22:05 different variations of the currently released pre's... probably work if all dependencies are met (which may include special network access) Feb 25 00:22:25 just pull it from the Sprint 1.4.5 Pre Doctor Feb 25 00:22:31 Anyone interested in testing if I fixed the jailer problems on my ffmpeg audio app? You need WebOS 2.0 or greater. Feb 25 00:25:34 It plays FLAC and wma files, along with the other formats Feb 25 00:26:45 see yaz! Feb 25 00:27:30 nyuepik: sorry I didn't get time to look at that stuff. Things got a bit busy over the past few days ;) Feb 25 00:27:47 No worries, I ended up replacing Node.js Feb 25 00:28:09 all the file picker stuff is now run through the plugin, should work, but I don't feel like redoctoring my phone to test Feb 25 00:28:18 I can if no one is up for testing it Feb 25 00:29:19 nyuepik: gtg, but i'm down to help you test something Feb 25 00:29:22 later Feb 25 00:30:18 ajay_: thanks, just let me know how to get you the ipk to test Feb 25 00:30:33 nyuepik: email or send me the link, as you prefer Feb 25 00:30:50 ajay_: just let me know the email to send to Feb 25 00:30:57 see ya! Feb 25 00:31:52 is there gonna be a flashlight app for 2.1 soon Feb 25 00:36:58 advanced device menu patch has one Feb 25 00:41:15 but its not yet available for 2.1 Feb 25 00:41:28 I should update it for 2.1 during next week Feb 25 00:41:37 sconix: ah, right. Feb 25 00:41:52 dumbledore: so the answer is "in the coming days" ;) Feb 25 00:41:58 =) Feb 25 00:43:40 Is there a way to create a new Palm Profile for a device that isn't going to be activated on a cellular network? Feb 25 00:47:13 yay :D Feb 25 00:47:24 * dumbledore <3 schonix and rwhitby Feb 25 00:47:51 artitumis: meta-doctor Feb 25 00:48:49 I had a busted Pre (cell radio was toast) and it wouldn't let me sign into a Palm Profile over WiFi after using meta-doc. Was that just because the radio was dead? Feb 25 00:57:25 rwhitby: Palm:"In the coming months"::WebOS Internals:"In the coming hours" Feb 25 00:58:22 artitumis: dunno, I'd have to see dbus and messages log output Feb 25 01:00:42 lol Feb 25 01:01:01 rwhitby: Okay. Busted Pre is gone, Sprint repair guy hooked me up with a free replacement. I plan on putting 2.1 on the new device. Since I don't have a spare profile, can I create the new once I flash it with the script? Feb 25 01:11:47 switching to Ubuntu machine. Feb 25 01:37:50 so quiet in here Feb 25 01:41:12 dumbledore: it is. Feb 25 01:41:23 yo Feb 25 01:41:45 howdy joebpre Feb 25 01:42:26 hey everyone :D Feb 25 01:42:58 hey NuttyBunny Feb 25 01:47:57 I'm thinking of getting my mom a Palm Pre - (sadly since I'm on sprint) and really considering putting 2.1 on it. Anyone think it's a good idea? (besides me lol) Feb 25 01:49:03 Ugh, my Ubuntu machine keeps locking up. Feb 25 01:49:27 graywolf336: I got another Pre to experiment with. I'm putting 2.1 on it tonight. Feb 25 01:51:56 artitumis: what machine is it? Ubuntu should not lock up :) Feb 25 01:52:00 That's awesome.. They're going for pretty low prices on craigslist where I'm at.. Feb 25 01:52:17 unless, of course, it's a somewhat exotic configuration Feb 25 01:52:25 NuttyBunny: It's an old Compaq laptop. From 2005. Feb 25 01:52:53 mmm... it should not lock up, maybe the RAM is already failing :( Feb 25 01:53:09 Wouldn't surprise me, really. Feb 25 01:53:31 I want to get a newer laptop to be my Ubuntu machine. Something with a 16x9 screen. Feb 25 01:53:40 way to go #webos-internals ... is see people are porting there patches to 2.1 Feb 25 01:54:53 :D Feb 25 01:55:12 hey im seeing kernels in 2.1 for the pre Feb 25 01:55:39 good sign :-) Feb 25 01:55:58 im not sure if they're for 2.1 though Feb 25 01:56:19 2.1 is masked as 1.4.5 ifaik Feb 25 01:56:23 afaik* Feb 25 01:56:35 i wouldnt install the kernels Feb 25 01:57:17 unless someone can tell me otherwise Feb 25 01:57:25 ah! Feb 25 01:57:42 djwhitey_pre! Feb 25 01:57:48 well well. inc from the pre! Feb 25 01:57:56 lol Feb 25 01:58:10 s/irc/inc Feb 25 01:58:13 can we install kernels from preware yet on 2.1? Feb 25 01:58:43 I don't think palm has open sourced the kernels yet Feb 25 01:58:52 I wouldn't do it Feb 25 01:59:05 yeah i thought so... Feb 25 02:00:07 I wonder what kind of drain wIRC is gonna put on my battery Feb 25 02:00:54 gonna take a while getting used to this autocorrection too Feb 25 02:00:55 Last I saw on webos internals' site was that the kernals have not been released yet. Feb 25 02:00:58 djwhitey: use wife it won't drain like it will using your data Feb 25 02:01:10 rofl Feb 25 02:01:13 rotfl Feb 25 02:01:20 dam auto correct Feb 25 02:01:35 s/wife/wifi Feb 25 02:01:40 lol Feb 25 02:02:07 yes. now we can have webOS autocorrect fails like our iOS friends Feb 25 02:02:08 dumbledore: The full process of masking the version is to fool the palm servers into thinking you're running 1.4.5. All other programs should know you're on 2.1 (after finishing the procedure) Feb 25 02:02:30 .. procedure? Feb 25 02:02:44 does autocorrect learn? doesn't seem to. keeps putting red dots under "autocorrect"... hehe Feb 25 02:02:56 preware is still bringing up 1.4.5 patches Feb 25 02:03:15 dumbledore: then you haven't unmasqed and rebooted Feb 25 02:03:18 looks like you can tap+hold to add a word to the dictionary Feb 25 02:03:49 dumbledore: you skipped step 5 Feb 25 02:06:29 ;o Feb 25 02:06:35 do i have to re-doctor? Feb 25 02:07:14 just unmasq and reboot Feb 25 02:07:21 oh :3 Feb 25 02:07:48 joebpre: how do you tab-complete nicks in wIRC? Feb 25 02:08:22 gesture+option Feb 25 02:08:39 I still have no clue if I'll be able to create a Palm Profile on a device without cellular activation. Feb 25 02:08:48 ah. ty. was missing the gesture Feb 25 02:08:58 so all of the patches are broke? Feb 25 02:09:03 no Feb 25 02:09:10 I see 75 available Feb 25 02:09:14 oh Feb 25 02:09:15 :3 Feb 25 02:09:32 man this no option+click to copy a url link is killin me Feb 25 02:10:15 dumbledore: not all .. people have to convert there patches to webos 2 Feb 25 02:10:30 ok Feb 25 02:10:43 is step 5 in the wiki? Feb 25 02:10:49 yes Feb 25 02:10:53 k Feb 25 02:11:03 the one with the novacom cmds Feb 25 02:11:59 * djwhitey_pre starts installing patches Feb 25 02:12:57 shit. i deleted ubuntu Feb 25 02:13:02 ... Feb 25 02:13:10 you got windows? Feb 25 02:13:15 yeah Feb 25 02:13:21 instal palm sdk? Feb 25 02:13:24 yea Feb 25 02:13:40 where is that file anyway? Feb 25 02:13:51 then all you need is to put the file on your windows box Feb 25 02:14:08 i dont have the file anymore, it was delted along with ubuntu Feb 25 02:14:20 open a cmd, cd where the file is, and do the 3 novacom cmds Feb 25 02:14:32 oh wait, is the file on pre? Feb 25 02:14:38 the contents of it are in the thread Feb 25 02:14:58 no, that's what you're trying to accomplish Feb 25 02:15:26 oh Feb 25 02:15:28 :3 Feb 25 02:16:23 m dumbledore I'll dcc it to you one sec Feb 25 02:16:35 ugh that didnt work Feb 25 02:17:40 lol Feb 25 02:18:11 guess I forgot the '/' Feb 25 02:18:22 i never did a dcc before Feb 25 02:19:29 finally that baby goes to slep Feb 25 02:19:34 s/sleep/slep Feb 25 02:19:35 lol Feb 25 02:34:10 figured i pass this along in the channel before i head out: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-2/270279-does-anyone-have-spotify-working-pre-2-webos-2-x.html#post2880290 Feb 25 02:34:18 sounds like the same problem we're having with PRL updates Feb 25 02:34:24 maybe the same solution? Feb 25 02:35:25 what's the thing with PRL? the fact that it isn't available in Phone Prefs? Feb 25 02:35:45 nah it can be readded, but it errors out when clicked on Feb 25 02:35:50 re-added Feb 25 02:36:05 RROR: "com.palm.provisioning" permissions does not allow inbound connections from "com.palm.app.phoneprefs" Feb 25 02:36:27 which sounds like it can be fixed with some clever json editing, judging by the spotify link Feb 25 02:37:03 sadly i have no more fucks to give about webos 2.1 modding for tonight heh Feb 25 02:38:50 =] Feb 25 02:39:36 sad that the meta script won't seem to download faster than about 150k/sec. Feb 25 02:39:52 it's not the script's fault Feb 25 02:40:02 it's either yours or palm's ;) Feb 25 02:40:17 mostly my wifi. Feb 25 02:40:24 perhaps palm's. Feb 25 02:40:49 once you have them in meta-doctor/downloads , you won't ever need to re-pull them Feb 25 02:41:54 yeah Feb 25 02:44:28 i wonder if themes work on 2.1 yet **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 25 02:59:57 2011