**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 24 02:59:58 2011 Mar 24 03:00:22 donc: run preware, and type at it's main screen Mar 24 03:00:33 just like the preware splash screen says to do Mar 24 03:01:27 off hand does someone know what standard is used to add search engines to just type? Mar 24 03:01:50 rwhitby: thanks, i was down a level, not at the top screen (doh) Mar 24 03:36:23 good night everyone Mar 24 03:55:29 oh no, Richard Kerris says "soon." He's been infected! Mar 24 04:08:32 :/ Mar 24 04:08:46 * oil would switch to "eventually" Mar 24 04:08:47 haha Mar 24 04:14:53 what i wanna know, is why xboxlive friends is on the precentral homepage as "new and updated homewbrew apps" Mar 24 04:15:20 when i havent uploaded a new copy since 7/16/2009 Mar 24 04:15:53 http://www.precentral.net/xboxlive-friends Mar 24 04:15:58 oh, apparently im not the developer anymore Mar 24 04:24:44 so anyway gps is killing me I keep doing gps fix it keeps erroring out .. according to wiki I keep hitting gps fix but when I go to an app it just won't find me ... any ideas Mar 24 04:25:41 switch to a carrier that doesn't break your gps Mar 24 04:30:39 well I'm using wifi ... let me go to 3g Mar 24 04:30:46 bbs Mar 24 04:46:30 is the Terminal app broken in 2.0.1 ? Mar 24 04:47:10 i just get a black screen for the app, with no user@computername ~: ... typing doesnt show any text Mar 24 04:52:48 yes Mar 24 04:53:15 there are other terminal apps in the testing feeds that are being worked on for 2.x support Mar 24 05:02:52 xterm Mar 24 05:11:15 /whois joshua Mar 24 05:11:18 err Mar 24 05:11:27 i can't even whois myself right Mar 24 05:18:05 something is up with my back lite Mar 24 05:18:10 anyway to fix it ? Mar 24 05:25:21 * RagingMind is tinkering again Mar 24 05:25:43 I wish I had a spare device around to tinker with, it's scary tinkering with my main phone :( Mar 24 05:27:31 ya, I understand that. Mar 24 05:29:36 gps1_nmea_output has me curious Mar 24 05:29:48 and a curious RagingMind can be a dangerous thing Mar 24 05:33:30 anyone run the xorg server on there pre ? Mar 24 05:33:42 I have Mar 24 05:33:46 is it a standard X where i can ssh into it and via the pre or something Mar 24 05:33:54 ijust installed it .. how do i use it ? Mar 24 05:34:04 its open atm Mar 24 05:34:42 that I haven't played with Mar 24 05:35:30 if you ssh from the pre to the desktop with x forwarding you should be able to pull up stuff Mar 24 05:35:38 heh Mar 24 05:35:45 i just sshed to it Mar 24 05:40:24 yea no work RagingMind Mar 24 05:41:23 which way did you do what? Mar 24 05:41:32 huh ? Mar 24 05:41:38 i started X .. i sshed to my pre Mar 24 05:42:23 ah, yeah I know it's technically possible to forward apps that way, or you should be able to start apps if ya know where they are Mar 24 05:43:13 but if you ssh from your pre to your computer with forwarding you should be able to forward any X app from your computer to your pre Mar 24 05:43:31 assuming it's set up like any x server Mar 24 05:44:49 forwarding .. what do yo mean ? Mar 24 05:44:54 s/yo/you/ Mar 24 05:44:55 joeb_ meant: forwarding .. what do you mean ? Mar 24 05:45:57 google "x forwarding ssh" Mar 24 05:51:48 late Mar 24 05:51:59 * joeb_ will be watching netflix in windows Mar 24 05:52:00 boo Mar 24 05:53:58 rwhitby: if I meta-doctored this frankenpre with --wifi-only, can it be activated as is or do I need to reflash it ? Mar 24 05:54:36 reflash Mar 24 05:54:50 ok Mar 24 05:54:58 the -only part of wifi-only is there for a reason :) Mar 24 05:55:14 is it going to cause problems if I have tokens from the Sprint pre copied over and it not being activated ? Mar 24 05:55:28 for another phone with the same number on this network ? Mar 24 05:55:39 dunno, I don't do CDMA Mar 24 05:55:51 because I look at the info and it's showing a bunch of values as if this was an established device which it isn't of course Mar 24 05:55:55 ok Mar 24 05:56:05 yeah, I was able to call customer care Mar 24 05:56:13 which is a good sign Mar 24 05:56:35 but I haven't tried anything else and I'm hoping that Sprint doesn't yell at me for screwing their network or something Mar 24 05:56:43 bhuey, cdma phones remember the last phone number and information from what ever they were activated with until they are activated with something else Mar 24 05:56:58 * rwhitby bbl Mar 24 05:57:01 ah ok, so this should be fine then right ? Mar 24 05:57:25 RagingMind: activating it with a different number is going to be a problem ? Mar 24 05:57:30 is the phone's information with sprint ready to be activated on another number/line? Mar 24 05:57:38 yes Mar 24 05:57:55 it's working fine and I was thinking about giving it to my sister Mar 24 05:58:03 then, when it's activated the modem will pick up all the new info when sprint programs it :) Mar 24 05:58:15 I have *no* clue about the webos tokens thing though Mar 24 05:58:30 ok so setting up the tokens and stuff from the meta-doctor should be overwritten with the new stuff ? Mar 24 05:58:47 I have *no* idea about tokens Mar 24 05:58:56 I know webos keeps them, and that's about it Mar 24 05:59:34 I don't know what webos does with them, but if sprint has the info for the phone attached to a new phone number then from that side of things you'll be fine Mar 24 06:38:08 helloww :) Mar 24 06:50:09 mmm... soooo alone Mar 24 06:50:14 hi infobot Mar 24 06:50:22 infobot: hi Mar 24 06:50:22 moin moin Mar 24 06:51:02 hi lonly NuttyBunny Mar 24 06:51:11 hehe.. hi :) Mar 24 06:52:36 hiya hape Mar 24 06:53:10 hape, any reason to believe that navit won't work on a pixi? Mar 24 06:53:38 doesn't it boot? or the gps gives you trouble Mar 24 06:53:40 ? Mar 24 06:54:28 its really a question of figuring out how to turn on the GPS and reading it. Mar 24 06:54:43 and whether navit knew how to do that. Mar 24 06:55:54 I am working on a project to fly a pixi. Mar 24 06:56:31 so working on flight software. Mar 24 06:57:17 ah, nice :) I've read that the pixi gps is different from the Pre, right? Mar 24 06:57:36 yup Mar 24 06:58:23 ideally I'd like to geotag the pix which you can do except I made an intervalometer and it doesn't geotag with that. Mar 24 06:58:53 mmm... no idea :( Mar 24 07:05:37 I just want to look @ how navit talks to the gps and controls it. Mar 24 07:05:50 assuming it knows how to control a pixi Mar 24 08:05:59 rwhitby: btw, I did get a random reboot or a luna restart Mar 24 08:08:32 ka6sox-away: we know that it do not work right on the pixi. Map only moves in card view or when you tap on it. Mar 24 08:09:10 But neither noradtux nor me own a Pixi. So we have no idea how to debug it. Mar 24 08:10:37 We use the sdk api to talk to GPS. Differnt on on webos 1.4.5 and 2.x Mar 24 08:10:56 okay bummers... Mar 24 08:10:57 thanks Mar 24 08:11:02 Navit checks the PDK version and the uses the one or the other method Mar 24 08:12:05 best it to try to catch noradtux here or PM him at oprecentral. Perhaps he is able to nail down the problem with you remote debugging for him Mar 24 08:16:16 hape, thanks...I'll look for him when I see him. Mar 24 08:16:35 I usually try to catch things at lower level. Mar 24 12:41:48 hi Mar 24 14:51:38 hape noradtux, I have a pixi+ that I can poke at navit with Mar 24 15:02:36 rwhitby: was mplayer compiled with --disable-neon done for a specific reason? Mar 24 15:04:30 elpollodiablo1, can you come back and ask that in about 8hrs? Mar 24 15:05:48 sure thing, I will ask him when it is not 2 am in australia Mar 24 15:07:56 elpollodiablo1, Good Plan Mar 24 16:08:28 I did what that PreCentral article said to do to fix Terminus in webos 2.1, worked perfectly.. since then, there's been 2 updates to Terminus in Preware that re-broke it.. you tap the icon now and it does nothing.. I've confirmed with a few others they have the same prob Mar 24 16:08:36 anyone in here know how to re-fix it? :P Mar 24 16:15:55 Hi there! Is there a way to manually update the music libruary? Mar 24 16:18:56 mmm... restart your device, or open internalz and rename any file in your music library, it should trigger an update Mar 24 16:22:56 @Nuttybunny this does not work, no update is happening. i had this problems last week und the week before. redoctoring did the job... but i really dont want do redoctor everytime i want to change my music on the device :( Mar 24 16:23:13 what version of webOS? Mar 24 16:23:33 and how are you unplugging your device from your computer? Mar 24 16:24:10 it ist webos 2.1 on a gsm palm pre - . i used the meto doctor script on to generate the webosdoctor using the instructions on the webos-internals wiki Mar 24 16:24:44 Nuttybunny: I've seen stuff talking about the media daemon farting out on 2.x sometimes, so I think that's what this might be Mar 24 16:25:14 SineOt: yeah, I should have the page somewhere Mar 24 16:25:32 i tried mounting and umounting via "hal" (xfce's filemanager), with pmount in a shell and with root priviliges with a simple mount / umount commands Mar 24 16:26:38 matto_: could this be the problem? http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/03/raising-awareness-serious-webos-2-x-bug-for-music-apps/ Mar 24 16:27:20 check this thread, it has a solution as a patch: http://forums.precentral.net/hedami/277939-read-if-youre-unable-access-your-music-music-player-remix.html Mar 24 16:27:35 I don't know if that's your problem, but you may give it a shot Mar 24 16:31:25 nuttybunny: thanks, i am not sure if this is the problem i have. i dont use 3rd party music apps. the music app is working fine but does not update its libraury when i change my music . i will try that ipk Mar 24 16:31:46 Also, how do you unplug your Pre? Mar 24 16:32:09 and on what OS you copy your music? (windows/mac/linux?) Mar 24 16:34:08 Nuttybunny: he answered that just a little earlier :p Mar 24 16:34:23 nuttybunny: like i said before. i tried diffrent way for mounting ans umounting my device (simple mount commands, pmount and hal). i use an up to date linux distribution. Mar 24 16:37:26 it looks like that patxh/fix fixed my problem! thanks a lot. btw: i there a documentation about the dot files in /media/internal ? Mar 24 16:37:58 what dot files do you mean? Mar 24 16:38:14 generally they're just stuff to hold crap that they don't want to be displayed to everyone Mar 24 16:39:11 SineOt: .sysservice/tokes and everything inside .palm folder Mar 24 17:14:46 Hey hey! I'd like to participate in the linphone alpha test. I have a german sipgate.de account and a local asterisk server to do some testing... Mar 24 17:28:34 my new pre+ seems to not respond to taps as well as my original... but at least data and wifi work Mar 24 17:51:03 * ka6sox-away wishes he could nap Mar 24 18:03:54 are there any resources available to enable me to put 2.1 on my verizon pre 2? Mar 24 18:04:08 SineOt, yeah the sim thing would be there Mar 24 18:04:37 verizon updates the PRL manually by dialing *228 and there's nothing special in the meta-verizon script that enables that Mar 24 18:05:11 webos knows what to do on it's own Mar 24 18:05:17 I don't have experience with VZW, just Sprint Mar 24 18:05:23 and Sprint you do PRL updates through the phone app Mar 24 18:05:41 not on vzw... dial the number and then magic happens Mar 24 18:06:22 gotta say... that's kind of annoying Mar 24 18:06:26 I'd take a button any day Mar 24 18:06:37 rather than having to listen to that really bad PRL hold music VZW has Mar 24 18:06:40 I'm still wondering what to do with this Pixi+ that my BF bought (just to give up on cause he doesn't feel like paying for data, blah) Mar 24 18:07:01 so I guess in a way I do kinda have a dev device now... that's stuck on 1.4.5 :( Mar 24 18:07:07 RagingMind: if you can't find anything to do with it, I'd love to get a Pixi+ comms board to add wifi to mine :p Mar 24 18:07:26 SineOt, it's the same procedure as updating the PRL on almost any verizon phone Mar 24 18:07:46 yeah, I've had VZW phones in the past Mar 24 18:07:53 but they were dumb phones, not smart phones Mar 24 18:08:11 having to dial a number and walk through an automated system then listen to hold music while it loads the PRL update doesn't seem very smart Mar 24 18:08:13 I'm not sure if my pre used to update automatically or if it still would... *shrugs* Mar 24 18:10:10 Sprint doesn't do it automatically but it's instead just a button in the phone app preferences Mar 24 18:10:19 you just tap it and it'll update in the background Mar 24 18:12:15 which arguably is a more "smart" way to handle it Mar 24 18:13:37 true... but with meta-doc I'm glad that's not now vzw did it :) Mar 24 18:57:40 yeah Mar 24 18:57:45 i got openal working Mar 24 18:57:50 yay! Mar 24 18:58:07 this pre doesn't seem to be handling 2.1 nearly as well as my original :( Mar 24 18:58:13 after much a pain in the ass htough Mar 24 19:20:05 i just got my pixi+! Mar 24 19:20:47 its so LITTLE Mar 24 19:24:12 spiffyfitz_, but fun Mar 24 19:31:51 trying to get preware on it… quick install doesn't recognize it's connected :( Mar 24 19:32:31 spiffyfitz_, look for something on "developer mode enabling" Mar 24 19:32:56 i THOUGHT i enabled developer mode… upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart, flipped the little switch, phone rebooted Mar 24 19:33:10 kk...just checking Mar 24 19:33:29 that and novacom drivers not loading or running right are 2 biggest causes. Mar 24 19:34:35 i am connected through my mac pro which is running the 10.7 Mac OS beta Mar 24 19:34:42 which is buggy… i'll use the netbook Mar 24 19:35:08 spiffyfitz_, probably a good idea. Mar 24 19:35:26 mmmmm.... bugs..... Mar 24 19:36:37 * Loudergood feeds halfhalo a ladybug Mar 24 19:37:33 eww Mar 24 19:45:56 well i've had it for about an hour, time to overclock Mar 24 19:46:32 I like the way you think Mar 24 19:46:56 looks like i've just gotta get the uberkernel and govnah… any backup steps i should take? Mar 24 19:58:20 get save/restore, use it Mar 24 19:58:28 kernel upgrades are pretty safe Mar 24 19:59:09 done and done Mar 24 19:59:11 rebooting :) Mar 24 20:04:20 hmmm, govnah isn't letting me pick a higher max freq Mar 24 20:05:28 spiffyfitz_, can you see the temperature of the device in Govnah? Mar 24 20:05:39 yup Mar 24 20:05:48 39• Mar 24 20:10:22 lol uh oh Mar 24 20:10:33 www.palm.com/ROM Mar 24 20:16:28 ugh palm.com/rom doesn't take me to the doctor site Mar 24 20:16:50 ~recovery Mar 24 20:16:51 recovery is, like, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery Mar 24 20:17:04 hmm..ok that's a step too far Mar 24 20:17:27 lol Mar 24 20:18:17 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover Mar 24 20:18:42 thank you very much, loudergood Mar 24 20:19:48 mkloeckner: what is your device and sip provider? Mar 24 20:23:01 anyone know where photo thumbnails are stored? something about mine is corrupt. new photos aren't showing up, photos deleted via usb mode show a thumbnail with an 'X' Mar 24 20:26:52 hmm maybe mediadb.db3 Mar 24 20:30:02 so no ideas on Terminus? Mar 24 20:57:47 okay maybe i went about this the wrong way Mar 24 20:58:02 http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pixi/265430-experimental-pixi-overclocking.html Mar 24 20:58:26 the people in this thread are using a different kernel to achieve overclocking on the pixi Mar 24 20:58:38 where is this kernel? where can i get it? Mar 24 21:00:31 ~testing-feeds Mar 24 21:00:32 rumour has it, testing-feeds is a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Mar 24 21:00:33 spiffyfitz_: this? http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-kernels/1.4.5/org.webosinternals.kernels.warthog-kernel-pixi_1.4.5-166_arm.ipk Mar 24 21:01:02 spiffyitz_ follow the link infobot gave Mar 24 21:01:14 thanks guys. Mar 24 21:01:22 i went with uberkernel from within the preware app Mar 24 21:01:34 derrrr… doctored back to stock and here i am :) Mar 24 21:03:58 np Mar 24 21:04:05 glad infobot could help :) Mar 24 21:04:06 spiffyfitz_: uberkernel for pixi is in the public feeds Mar 24 21:04:16 right, but i don't think it enables overclocking Mar 24 21:04:33 and if it does, i did something wrong, because govnah wasn't letting me change clock speeds Mar 24 21:04:45 and then the phone rebooted itself and gave me the palm.com/rom error Mar 24 21:11:07 what's the equivalent of fileindexer in 2.x? Mar 24 21:20:58 spiffyfitz_: did you get what you needed from infobot? Mar 24 21:21:20 hmmm… not exactly Mar 24 21:21:31 i'm a webos noob, just got my device a couple hours ago Mar 24 21:21:43 the testing feeds should give you all you need Mar 24 21:21:55 what else do you need? Mar 24 21:22:02 I OCed the pixi I had Mar 24 21:22:10 I had it for just over 1 yr Mar 24 21:22:22 well the link djwhitey gave me isn't in the feeds you gave me Mar 24 21:22:33 PatrickC_Pre, he doesn't need the testing feeds to over clock Mar 24 21:23:00 oh yea.. Mar 24 21:23:17 "all he needs" should be in the public feeds, and especially for someone new to webOS, probably better to not have them install beta quality software on their first day Mar 24 21:23:24 spiffyfitz_: follow the link that djwhitey gave you :) Mar 24 21:23:41 if it's in the public feeds… it isn't necessarily in preware, right? Mar 24 21:23:48 yes Mar 24 21:23:55 in the "other" section Mar 24 21:24:01 spiffyfitz_, preware by default provides the public feeds Mar 24 21:24:17 okay lemme poke around a bit... Mar 24 21:24:30 so preware kinda defines which feeds are thought of as "public" (besides the palm catalog of course) Mar 24 21:27:54 the only kernels available are stock and uberkernel… the description of uberkernel talks about different max frequencies… should i try this again? Mar 24 21:28:37 uberkernel is the most stable (correct me if I'm wrong) kernel for the pixi and pre Mar 24 21:29:03 okay… then it must be the one i'm after Mar 24 21:29:21 http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pixi/265430-experimental-pixi-overclocking.html Mar 24 21:29:21 yep Mar 24 21:29:31 i don't think they're talking about any particular kernel in this thread Mar 24 21:29:41 yeah it is, I've never felt the need to play around with any of the more bleeding edge ones Mar 24 21:30:42 I believe that one is about the WartHog kernel (more bleeding edge, and more likely to kill your phone) Mar 24 21:32:38 it's all very cryptic to a noob like me :) Mar 24 21:33:24 it won't be after a while :) Mar 24 21:33:31 installed, gonna reboot a couple of times Mar 24 21:33:43 only once is needed :) Mar 24 21:33:53 UberKernel? Mar 24 21:33:58 last time i rebooted once, govnah only gave me stock speeds Mar 24 21:34:00 yeah Mar 24 21:34:11 so i rebooted again, got the palm.com/rom Mar 24 21:34:15 you need to set it up to be higher speeds Mar 24 21:34:24 i know, it wasn't allowing anything over 600 Mar 24 21:34:41 I dont believe that uberkernel does Mar 24 21:34:44 hello! Mar 24 21:34:49 so instead of messing around with this memboot gibberish i just doctored to stock Mar 24 21:34:52 hay! Mar 24 21:35:02 you membooted? Mar 24 21:35:05 what did i miss :P Mar 24 21:35:17 a lot :p Mar 24 21:35:17 oh… well then why am i expecting to OC with this uberkernel? Mar 24 21:35:19 hehe Mar 24 21:35:26 it does OC Mar 24 21:35:37 the pixi is *really* slow stock Mar 24 21:35:44 ^ Mar 24 21:36:06 OHHH here we go… it's giving me options to OC all of a sudden :) :) Mar 24 21:36:23 good Mar 24 21:36:30 gremlins Mar 24 21:36:40 the pre is even slow stock (but not the pre2) Mar 24 21:36:46 hay wgreenhouse Mar 24 21:36:56 hi PatrickC_Pre Mar 24 21:37:00 how goes? Mar 24 21:37:06 it goes Mar 24 21:37:12 I had testing todat Mar 24 21:37:13 :/ Mar 24 21:37:22 s/todat/today/ Mar 24 21:37:28 testing for what? Mar 24 21:38:01 homeschooling Mar 24 21:38:08 like the SAT for HS Mar 24 21:38:17 govnah isn't showing a difference in clock speed .. i'm gonna reboot Mar 24 21:38:58 what did you set it to? Mar 24 21:39:10 onddemand 749 Mar 24 21:39:42 it takes a second to ramp up Mar 24 21:39:46 and only if needed Mar 24 21:39:56 what was the min freq? Mar 24 21:40:54 I think uberkernel does 800ish... but instead of setting the speed manually, select one of the installed profiles Mar 24 21:40:56 uhhh 122.88 Mar 24 21:41:11 yea Mar 24 21:41:19 select one of the pre-made profiles Mar 24 21:41:21 PuffTheMagic: were you the one that updated Terminus and its post install? thought I saw you tweet about it Mar 24 21:41:22 yeah i'm picking the profiles… no matter what i choose… the CPU freq seems to stay at a steady 600 Mar 24 21:41:52 it will, till it needs to be faster i believe Mar 24 21:42:12 but if it DOESNT then shouldn't it be clocking slower than 600? Mar 24 21:42:26 i'll go launch some cards Mar 24 21:44:02 http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:UberKernel Mar 24 21:44:33 i read that earlier, i figured it was just outdated Mar 24 21:45:18 brb Mar 24 21:45:31 ragingmind: mind taking over for a few? Mar 24 21:46:07 /msg me if you need me Mar 24 21:46:08 because if i launch the uberkernel (pixi/pixi+) card, the very first thing listed is "Current additions include: 747.8 MHz, 768.2MHz, 806.4 MHz kernel operating points, based on informationfrom the Android community, ported to the Palm Pixi/Pixi+ by codecrumb and rwhitby" Mar 24 21:46:14 I'll have my phone with me Mar 24 21:46:25 I"ll be checking back every few mintues, heh Mar 24 21:47:18 so I lost track of what's happening :) Mar 24 21:47:55 he's saying its not OCing when he set it too Mar 24 21:48:00 its staying at 600 Mar 24 21:48:07 yup Mar 24 21:48:22 maybe it's incorrectly reportin the frequency, because the phone does seem snappier Mar 24 21:48:26 * PatrickC_Pre which is what mine stayed at for about 8 months before it got any faster Mar 24 21:48:39 but the temp isn't going up either Mar 24 21:48:51 it shouldnt Mar 24 21:48:57 * PatrickC_Pre doesn't think it should Mar 24 21:49:29 how fast can the pixi's processor really run Mar 24 21:49:54 I think like 900 Mar 24 21:50:00 but I'm not 100% sure Mar 24 21:50:16 i would totally try it Mar 24 21:51:49 hmmm Mar 24 21:51:59 i wonder why it's not showing the frequency going up and down Mar 24 21:52:12 do you see the kernel icon in your launcher? Mar 24 21:52:17 yep Mar 24 21:52:26 clicking it gives me a nice description of what it's supposed to do Mar 24 21:52:30 uninstall govnah and re-install it Mar 24 21:52:37 yes sir Mar 24 21:52:51 usually solves my problem when i have kernel frequency related problems Mar 24 21:54:59 same deal. Mar 24 21:55:11 oh well, i'll just stick with the phone the way it is now and get used to it Mar 24 21:55:25 thanks guys i really appreciate all your help. Mar 24 21:55:33 i've got some NETFLIX to stream! Mar 24 21:55:37 later! Mar 24 22:04:34 sorry @rwhitby, I went out to have a beer. I have a Pre- running webos 2.1. My sipprovider is sipgate.de Mar 24 22:07:03 mkloeckner, it'll probably be a few hours Mar 24 22:07:49 yeah I can imagine. i'll be leaving in a few mins as well Mar 24 22:10:42 i'll come back to this chan tomorrow. good night to the rest of the world! ;-) Mar 24 22:20:53 spiffyfitz_: did you reboot the phone after installing the kernel? reboot, not just luna restart. Mar 24 22:23:23 rwhitby, good morning? Mar 24 22:23:48 RagingMind: g'day Mar 24 22:31:57 morning rwhitby Mar 24 22:33:25 g'day Nuttybunny Mar 24 22:41:15 hey rwhitby Mar 24 22:41:41 I posted last night about my Sprint Pre+ crashing randomly btw, I thought you might like to know. Mar 24 22:41:49 it's using an overclock kernel, 800mhz Mar 24 22:43:19 if you catch something in /var/log/messages, let me know Mar 24 22:43:33 rwhitby: hey, by any chance you know where do the libcjson.so comes from? Mar 24 22:44:03 Palm rootfs Mar 24 22:44:22 of course, but any sources? :) Mar 24 22:45:34 rwhitby: i just rebooted… would that have covered everything? Mar 24 22:47:05 ahhh… looking at govnah now it looks like it's reporting the proper frequencies Mar 24 22:47:06 YES! Mar 24 22:47:11 rwhitby: sure Mar 24 22:47:59 Nuttybunny: I think opensource.palm.com Mar 24 22:48:48 destinal: well, unless it comes inside other package, I couldn't find it :( Mar 24 22:49:42 spiffyfitz_: did you use Preware to install the kernel ? Mar 24 22:49:48 yes Mar 24 22:50:01 it should have asked you to reboot the device. did you say "Yes"? Mar 24 22:50:05 yep Mar 24 22:50:11 have rebooted a bunch of times since then Mar 24 22:50:38 but you say suddenly it just started working this last reboot. I find that hard to believe, sorry. Mar 24 22:51:26 it didn't start working this last reboot… govnah was giving me the ability to change clock speed at different profiles… i would pick the profile and it would still report 600MHz Mar 24 22:51:50 just now i went into govnah, haven't rebooted since then, and now all of a sudden govnah is giving me proper readings Mar 24 22:52:23 it's working fine now, so i'm not complaining Mar 24 22:58:42 * rwhitby bbl Mar 24 22:59:15 Nuttybunny: looks like an oversight. only in 1.4.5 and earlier source code package list -- http://opensource.palm.com/1.4.5/index.html -- http://palm.cdnetworks.net/opensource/1.4.5/cjson-1.0.tgz Mar 24 22:59:37 ah, great, thanks :) Mar 24 22:59:44 and http://palm.cdnetworks.net/opensource/1.4.5/cjson-1.0-patch.gz Mar 24 22:59:49 Nuttybunny: no problem Mar 25 00:09:04 I needs some haxor help Mar 25 00:09:33 I was using the synergy messaging plug ins and I guess the borked something Mar 25 00:09:38 my phone app doesn;t open Mar 25 00:09:45 I uninstalled everything Mar 25 00:09:47 all patches Mar 25 00:09:54 and the plugins Mar 25 00:09:57 problem remains Mar 25 00:10:22 I can;t use repair utility because it is not compatible with themetadoctor phones because it says it;s the worng versions Mar 25 00:10:51 what can I do to fix I dnt want to doctor Mar 25 01:08:21 I have an update to the keybinds for the xserver package to include the arrow keys. Mar 25 01:09:01 not sure who to talk to about this or how you want me to update it. Mar 25 01:10:24 elpollodiablo1, dtzwill Mar 25 01:13:45 dtzwill: I made a simple update to the symbols file to include the arrow keys with the key combination sym+ r=up, sym + d =left, sym + f = down, sym + g=right Mar 25 01:17:22 Rod around yet? Mar 25 01:18:17 elpollodiablo1: great, ty. i can't look at it atm (in a meeting), but if you send it to webos@wdtz.org I'll bounce through it and commit it on your behalf Mar 25 01:18:37 elpollodiablo1: and pending testing will be in a new release of the X stuff giving you the appropriate credit, assuming that's all good with you. Mar 25 01:20:15 yeah that is fine. I have some more changes I want to make but they are no where near being ready. one includes not being required to hold down the orange key to get to the numbers to work. Mar 25 01:20:46 great. sticky modifies would be fantastic. Mar 25 01:20:59 you adding your own support into the xserver, or using the existing xkeyboard features? Mar 25 01:21:08 anyway that sounds fantastic, look forward to it Mar 25 01:27:44 I am just using existing xkb features they call sticky modifiers LatchMods and LockMods depending on the function you need Mar 25 01:28:25 hey i need help with meta dr Mar 25 01:28:34 anyone able to help? Mar 25 01:29:24 kill_dano: you're best off just describing your peoblem. asking to ask a question generally doesn't get as much response as just asking straight out with what the issue is Mar 25 01:29:44 thanks Mar 25 01:30:01 I'm making a new Dr and I se ethat they now come with carrier stuff like nascar Mar 25 01:30:02 kill_dano: there are people in the channel who know metadoctor and others who might look at it later Mar 25 01:30:18 I don;t want that stuff. How do I get rid of nascore befor ethe doctor? Mar 25 01:30:25 nascar Mar 25 01:31:18 hmm, nascar for instance, that's in the carrier customizations package for sprint, right? I'm not sure the best way to remove it or whether metadoctor supports such a thing, perhaps someone else knows (rwhitby?) Mar 25 01:31:41 yeah tat's where it is Mar 25 01:32:41 I mean, I can see it in the meta dr files... I have built the doctor and in the sprint 2.1 folder under build it have the new .jar file.. and all teh folder that it used in the Jar file Mar 25 01:33:26 so I suppos eIf there was a way to make to re-build the doctor from those files all I would ahve to do it delete those files from the build/sprint2.1/carrrier folder Mar 25 01:33:41 nad have it remake the doctor Mar 25 01:33:46 but idk how Mar 25 01:34:27 kill_dano: I'm not sure either, mainly because I've never tried. you can remove the files and just make repack the usual way but I'm not sure which files or whether it would cause a problem Mar 25 01:34:59