**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 02 02:59:58 2011 Apr 02 03:21:59 Has anyone tried using the meta-doctor from a Linux live cd? (rather than inside a virtual machine) Apr 02 03:44:14 of course, but you have to install several packages, and have plenty of space Apr 02 03:46:23 I was just thinking that a LinuxMint live cd (has most if not all of the needed packages) would work. Space would be easy, a user could just mount the internal hard drive, or even use a usb drive. Apr 02 03:46:36 in fact, it's better that way since the webos doctor communicates directly to your phone instead of having to pull it off the VM Apr 02 03:47:07 yeah i heard that a lot of people were having USB trouble with virtual machines Apr 02 03:47:10 mmm... the user should use a unix partition, that way they won't lose permissions as in the latest scripts Apr 02 03:47:55 In virtualbox they have to grab the PUEL extension pack and set up a filter. I'm getting ready to update the wiki, and add that info plus make a section for doing it with a live cd. Apr 02 03:48:39 So would a fat-formatted thumbdrive work better than an ntfs internal drive? Apr 02 03:51:05 Would a fat-formatted thumbdrive preserve the permissions correctly? Apr 02 03:51:14 mmm... nop, none of the two Apr 02 03:52:07 the ubuntu usb creator gives you the option of creating a persising filesystem inside the usb drive so you can save stuff there, with a ext3 partition (unix style), which works correctly Apr 02 03:55:52 Ok so as long as you format the usb drive to ext3 (or 4?), it should work fine. It's going in the wiki! Apr 02 03:56:29 Surely that method will be simpler for some rather than dealing with virtualization or a full-out installation. Apr 02 04:05:21 I don't know if said usb drive can be created within the windows live cd part, because you could run the live cd, and create the live usb there Apr 02 04:05:28 there are several options Apr 02 04:08:47 Good point, I'll mention that. How big of a USB drive would be needed do you think? Apr 02 04:30:58 is the folder "ramdump" a common folder? Apr 02 04:31:16 I just noticed it when cleaning out my USB drive on my pre+ Apr 02 05:51:51 night all Apr 02 05:55:22 ~destinal Apr 02 05:55:23 destinal is, like, just this guy, you know? Apr 02 05:55:33 ~seen destinal Apr 02 05:55:37 destinal <~chatzilla@174-24-58-127.clsp.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 2d 2h 15m 12s ago, saying: 'so, sssshhh'. Apr 02 05:55:53 grrr Apr 02 06:29:32 hey Nu Apr 02 06:33:48 Sprint FrankenPre2 activation question: Does the comm board need to be activated and currently working when you switch it? Or does it just have to have been activated in the past at some point? Apr 02 06:34:32 I have a Pre- that was being used, but the line was switched to a new phone. Do I have to have a line active on it before I swap the board to the Pre2, or can I do that afterwards Apr 02 06:34:35 ? Apr 02 06:35:04 zinge: you need to have the sprint board working, since you can't activate it on 2.x Apr 02 06:35:29 Okay, that's what I thought. I just wasn't sure if 'activated' meant at some point in the past, or currently. Apr 02 06:35:31 Thanks. Apr 02 06:38:25 Other quick question: Will the comm board from the Pre2 work if I put it into the old Pre-? Apr 02 07:49:05 heyho Apr 02 07:53:43 ice8lue: are you in an official app catalog country? Apr 02 08:05:31 rwhitby: i think so, germany Apr 02 08:05:51 ice8lue: you just got a Pre 2 ? Apr 02 08:05:56 ya =) Apr 02 08:06:10 do you have paid app catalog access on it? Apr 02 08:06:34 mh i think so. it did restore all my paid apps Apr 02 08:06:37 let me check that Apr 02 08:07:45 ya, i can buy them Apr 02 08:10:52 why? Apr 02 08:11:20 just seeing whether unlocked Pre 2 app catalog access has changed at all Apr 02 08:12:33 didn't they have access before? Apr 02 08:16:04 rwhitby: how does the catalog know where you are? Apr 02 08:16:26 IP addr? gps? what you tell it? Apr 02 08:17:27 the device record created at the very first activation of the device. Apr 02 08:17:37 it never changes after that, no matter where you travel or what sim you have inserted Apr 02 08:20:13 and where's that stored? Apr 02 08:24:22 got to go now, see u guys Apr 02 08:32:57 mmm, speaking of travel Apr 02 08:33:19 I'll probably be going to Russia this summer--trying to decide whether I'll buy a cheap Russian phone or a prepaid GSM SIM for my Pre+ Apr 02 08:53:40 Xuzz: it's stored on the Palm profile servers. You can't change it. Apr 02 08:55:21 rwhitby: heh, and can't you just use a different profile though? Apr 02 08:55:37 Xuzz: device record and profile are two different things Apr 02 08:55:50 oh Apr 02 08:55:52 the device record moves between profiles Apr 02 11:26:56 * bhuey misses his Pre Apr 02 11:57:23 Hi there. I'm trying to build WIDK on Debian Squeeze. "make stage" says my libexpat is too old when compiling fontconfig. But it's version 2.0.1 and according to the website of libexpat this is the current version. I know WIDK prefers Ubuntu, is Ubuntu using a custom libexpat? Apr 02 12:06:42 Ah, nonsense. Naturally it uses the cross-compiled expat. It's an older version than 2.0.1 but I've seen that fontconfig has a patch which seems to removes this check in configure.in. But this has no effect on the build because the configure script is not rebuild. Apr 02 17:42:14 hello Apr 02 17:42:50 hey, can someone help me real quick Apr 02 17:43:28 i use doctor, installed 1.4.5 then preware 0.9.38 and says service not running Apr 02 17:59:21 Kyly_: I got the same problem but mine is 2.1.0 not 1.4.5. Mine is fixed by doctor again. I seemed like Apr 02 17:59:49 It seems that your last doctor was not quite complete. Apr 02 18:37:00 Is there a way to erase the part of the phone the holds the app catalog region/carrier settings? Apr 02 21:14:29 * rwhitby wonders why people are trying to install Preware 0.9.38 when the latest public version is 1.5.7 ... Apr 02 21:28:58 lol Apr 02 21:29:06 hows linphone coming along Apr 02 21:39:49 results are in the thread and on the wiki Apr 02 22:26:54 im going to buy another webos phone soon, hopefully i'll be able to try out linphone Apr 02 23:59:37 ~seen destinal Apr 02 23:59:43 destinal <~chatzilla@174-24-58-127.clsp.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #webos-internals, 2d 20h 19m 12s ago, saying: 'so, sssshhh'. Apr 03 00:00:05 mmm... guess I'll have to do it myself.. Apr 03 00:09:37 ~seen Xuzz Apr 03 00:09:39 xuzz is currently on #webos-internals. Has said a total of 39 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen Xuzz'. Apr 03 00:15:12 ~seen NuttyBunny Apr 03 00:15:13 nuttybunny is currently on #webos-internals (15m 58s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen NuttyBunny'. Apr 03 00:15:24 hehehe Apr 03 00:15:27 infobot: Hi! Apr 03 00:15:28 hi Apr 03 00:16:13 infobot: What are you doing? Apr 03 00:16:14 palm_pixi: what are you talking about? Apr 03 00:16:27 infobot: What are YOU talking about? Apr 03 00:16:28 palm_pixi: I think you lost me on that one Apr 03 00:16:41 infobot: Yes you did. Apr 03 00:16:53 infobot: You're an awesome bot. Apr 03 02:25:02 yo yo Apr 03 02:25:12 where is the leet oil at? Apr 03 02:28:49 Lol @ NuttyBunny talking to the bot Apr 03 02:29:08 hehehe Apr 03 02:32:36 are you good with any of the meta-doctor stuff and bypassing activation or w/e Apr 03 02:52:02 bnceo: a bit, what do you need? Apr 03 02:56:22 well, I got this pixi and I want to use it a palm profile Apr 03 02:56:27 basically, need to bypass first use Apr 03 02:56:41 want to use it without logging into palm profile* **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Apr 03 02:59:58 2011