**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 09 02:59:57 2011
Apr 09 08:16:27 <Xuzz> So my Pre is stuck on the HP logo screen (Pre 2; 2.1.0)
Apr 09 08:16:40 <Xuzz> I can novaterm into it and I get a root shell, so it's booting into Linux.
Apr 09 08:16:50 <Xuzz> What's the procedure for getting it back to usable state?
Apr 09 08:17:21 <rwhitby> webOS doctor
Apr 09 08:17:34 <Xuzz> okay
Apr 09 08:17:45 <Xuzz> do you have any idea where something like a SNES emulator would store it's data?
Apr 09 08:17:53 * Xuzz would just want to grab the save state.
Apr 09 08:18:04 <rwhitby> do you use save/restore ?
Apr 09 08:18:34 <Xuzz> don't know what that is :(
Apr 09 08:18:54 <rwhitby> ~hgoh
Apr 09 08:18:55 <infobot> hmm... hgoh is the Holy Grail of Homebrew, which can be found at http://bit.ly/holy-grail-of-homebrew
Apr 09 08:19:41 <Xuzz> I did not.
Apr 09 08:19:43 <rwhitby> it may have a script for the app
Apr 09 08:19:58 <rwhitby> what's the app id?
Apr 09 08:20:21 <Xuzz> org.webosinternals.supernes
Apr 09 08:22:06 <rwhitby> http://git.webos-internals.org/?p=applications/saverestore.git;a=blob;f=scripts/org.webosinternals.supernes
Apr 09 08:23:04 <Xuzz> awesome, thanks!
Apr 09 08:23:16 * Xuzz will copy over the save files and then doctor it.
Apr 09 09:19:07 <preminus> hi, i'm trying to manually set my compcache values and i need to reset to default, is that possible?
Apr 09 11:06:58 <NuttyBunny-zzz> Preminus: Read the 2.0 upgrade Wiki, the compcache info is there. I wrote it :P
Apr 09 11:09:09 <preminus> yeah, thats what i was reading, i fugured it out tho, thx and good job
Apr 09 11:13:30 <NuttyBunny> BTW, if you saw something in the thread that's not in the Wiki, you're free to update it, that's the nature of the wiki :D
Apr 09 11:36:23 <quad_damage> Hi, does anyone know how to debug mojo applications using eclipse? I do not see the Web OS option listed under debug.
Apr 09 11:44:22 <MetaView> how to disable dropbear ssh server?
Apr 09 11:44:57 <MetaView> I've installed the pdk-stuff on my device for gdb, now my OpenSSH isn't the one listening on port 22 anymore
Apr 09 11:45:02 <MetaView> but dropbear is now
Apr 09 11:55:12 <rwhitby> probably a file in /etc/event.d/
Apr 09 11:55:24 <MetaView> hi, can't find it
Apr 09 11:55:48 <MetaView> no optware-dropbear, no dropbear
Apr 09 11:56:22 <MetaView> oh, sry, there is a dropbear
Apr 09 11:56:26 <MetaView> I was blind...
Apr 09 12:09:01 <MetaView> thx, now, openssh is back again
Apr 09 18:33:14 <wodar> hello everyone
Apr 09 18:43:36 <wodar> i have some trouble installing webos 2 on a palm pre first generation with the o2 webos metadoctor
Apr 09 18:44:29 <wodar> the metadoctor is working great, just smooth, and the mobile is just rebooting fine, everything as expected
Apr 09 18:44:49 <wodar> but when it comes to profile creatiion it just hangs
Apr 09 18:45:01 <wodar> i can not create a new one or login with my current one
Apr 09 18:46:14 <wodar> i also repeated the webos doctoring like the wiki advise
Apr 09 18:46:53 <wodar> still no luck, any one another hunch or something i could try?
Apr 09 18:47:37 <RagingMind> wait around a bit, someone that knows a bit more about profiles and stuff will probably drop in
Apr 09 18:48:28 <SineOt> where does it hang?
Apr 09 18:49:24 <wodar> after the login or the profile creation with "E-Mail abrufen" (checkin e-mails)
Apr 09 18:49:59 <wodar> telling me either my internet settings would be wrong or my signal would be to bad
Apr 09 18:50:20 <wodar> neither is actually the thing
Apr 09 18:50:23 <RagingMind> is there a little 3g icon up top?
Apr 09 18:50:36 <wodar> no only edge
Apr 09 18:50:46 <wodar> is there 3g need to finish the installation?
Apr 09 18:51:03 <RagingMind> not 3g really, but the icon for data
Apr 09 18:51:14 <Loudergood> try wifi?
Apr 09 18:51:34 <RagingMind> you do have to have that data connection for profile login
Apr 09 18:51:44 <wodar> Loudergood: can't there is no access to the wifi configuration at thet point in the setup
Apr 09 18:52:09 <RagingMind> I think meta-doc has stuff in it to enable wifi for profile log-in, but you'd have to redoctor
Apr 09 18:52:23 <wodar> RagingMind: do you have the Edge icon in mind?
Apr 09 18:52:34 <wodar> ok, i would redoctor
Apr 09 18:52:39 <RagingMind> and also have the wifi settings saved already
Apr 09 18:52:47 <wodar> nothing easier as that
Apr 09 18:52:56 <wodar> i had them in my profil
Apr 09 18:54:09 <RagingMind> those aren't part of the profile, they are saved on-device.  the process that I"m thinking of requires a copy of that on-device wifi file so that meta-doc can install it for you
Apr 09 18:54:50 <wodar> ok, so doctor to 1.4.5 connect to wifi, save the fill, modify meta-doc to use that file and save the day?
Apr 09 18:55:10 <wodar> fill -> file
Apr 09 18:55:19 <RagingMind> in theory, but I'm wondering why you're not getting a data connection to beginwith
Apr 09 18:55:39 <RagingMind> if it's not a 2.1 issue causing that, then when you go back to 1.4.5 you'll still be stuck
Apr 09 18:55:44 <wodar> me too
Apr 09 18:56:24 <RagingMind> you can doctor to 2.1 or 1.4.5 and bypass activation, you wouldn't be on cell network but that way you'd be able to join wifi
Apr 09 18:56:47 <RagingMind> who's your provider?
Apr 09 18:56:49 <AStice> Does anybody know of a reason why I shouldn't go ahead and do the Sprint Pre Plus process with my ATT Pre Plus while I wait to get my hands on a Pre 2? I can't think of a reason it would prevent the Sprint Pre 2 process.
Apr 09 18:56:53 <wodar> o2
Apr 09 18:57:22 <wodar> so after bypassing activation is there a way to do it after inital setup
Apr 09 18:57:33 <Loudergood> yes
Apr 09 18:57:46 <Loudergood> run the gesture tutorial
Apr 09 18:57:53 <wodar> ahh, good plan
Apr 09 18:58:14 <wodar> i think i already read about skipping activation
Apr 09 18:58:31 <wodar> will take a deeper look, thank both of :)
Apr 09 19:02:35 <TheKeithNewman> Howdy
Apr 09 19:02:43 <TheKeithNewman> http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-2/279814-sprint-frankenpre-metadoctor-failing.html
Apr 09 19:02:45 <TheKeithNewman> THIS
Apr 09 19:02:49 <TheKeithNewman> but not me
Apr 09 19:05:46 <TheKeithNewman> anyone have thoughts?
Apr 09 19:06:46 <RagingMind> TheKeithNewman, at 82%?
Apr 09 19:07:30 <RagingMind> what happens if you just reboot the phone after it fails?
Apr 09 19:07:41 <Loudergood> my vzw franken pre2 attempts have been dying much sooner than that
Apr 09 19:07:50 <Loudergood> going to try again soon
Apr 09 19:08:21 <SineOt> A failure at 82% tends to be a checksum mismatch which isn't that big of a deal I don't think
Apr 09 19:08:24 <TheKeithNewman> stuck on webos-internals boot image
Apr 09 19:08:51 <TheKeithNewman> flickers once... briefly.
Apr 09 19:08:57 <SineOt> then starts over again?
Apr 09 19:09:00 <TheKeithNewman> nope
Apr 09 19:09:04 <RagingMind> for how long? that first boot takes a *long* time
Apr 09 19:09:16 <TheKeithNewman> I think I let it sit for 5 minutes?
Apr 09 19:09:29 <TheKeithNewman> cache issue?
Apr 09 19:09:52 <TheKeithNewman> rebuilding the cache?
Apr 09 19:10:19 <SineOt> something like that, yeah
Apr 09 19:10:26 <TheKeithNewman> seems uber long, unless the boot processor is restrained to 200mhz, I don't see it having to take that long
Apr 09 19:10:38 <SineOt> it can just take a while before it switches over to the HP logo and starts flashing
Apr 09 19:10:49 <SineOt> I've seen it take like 3-4 minutes on my Pre2
Apr 09 19:11:01 <TheKeithNewman> for first boot OR any boot?
Apr 09 19:11:12 <TheKeithNewman> cause I let it sit... maybe 5-10 minutes
Apr 09 19:11:43 <SineOt> modern smartphones aren't really designed to be full rebooted all the time!
Apr 09 19:11:55 <TheKeithNewman> understood...
Apr 09 19:11:58 <SineOt> this is just with some random reboots, I don't know if the very first takes even longer
Apr 09 19:12:06 <SineOt> I never paid that close of attention
Apr 09 19:12:23 <TheKeithNewman> no mentions of boot times for frankenpre-ing
Apr 09 19:12:38 <TheKeithNewman> i know failure on 82% or higher is just the ROM check
Apr 09 19:12:45 <TheKeithNewman> so it could/should be fine
Apr 09 19:12:51 <SineOt> yeah
Apr 09 19:12:52 <RagingMind> I've noticed that after doctoring and when first logging into a profile it takes longer, or at least seems to
Apr 09 19:13:03 <SineOt> it'll fail when it hits some MD5 sum it doesn't recognize
Apr 09 19:13:14 <SineOt> if you launch it from the command line I think you can see what it fails on
Apr 09 19:13:18 <TheKeithNewman> the cache needs to be rebuilt from scratch
Apr 09 19:14:23 <TheKeithNewman> still sitting :(
Apr 09 19:14:59 <TheKeithNewman> man... my Pre2 clicks loud when closing it
Apr 09 19:17:56 <TheKeithNewman> still sitting
Apr 09 19:18:01 <TheKeithNewman> something is wrong
Apr 09 19:19:35 <SineOt> can you connect to it via novaterm?
Apr 09 19:20:58 <TheKeithNewman> I am going to try
Apr 09 19:23:33 <TheKeithNewman> damn, forgot I had a new laptop, need to install the SDK
Apr 09 19:23:35 <TheKeithNewman> smh
Apr 09 19:38:00 <wodar> hmmm RagingMind no i have installed and skipped the activation
Apr 09 19:40:22 <wodar> now
Apr 09 19:41:09 <TheKeithNewman> something is wrong
Apr 09 19:41:22 <TheKeithNewman> gonna try to doctor... again
Apr 09 19:41:29 <TheKeithNewman> smh
Apr 09 19:42:01 <TheKeithNewman> first boot shouldn't be 15 minutes
Apr 09 19:44:46 <wodar> RagingMind: Loudergood thanks both of you, now it's working, great, just perfect :)
Apr 09 20:07:30 <TheKeithNewman> now it appears to be a reboot loop?
Apr 09 20:07:54 <TheKeithNewman> normal?
Apr 09 20:11:56 <TheKeithNewman> bummer
Apr 09 20:16:28 <AStice> The only thing that matters for the Sprint Pre 2 process is that the comm board is activated, right? So put my comm board in a Pre Plus today, but still be able to use it for a Sprint Pre 2 in the future, right?
Apr 09 20:16:56 <AStice> Err, I could put my comm board in a Pre Plus today*
Apr 09 20:20:48 <summatusmentis> AStice: I believe that's correct, but you probably shouldn't take only my word on it
Apr 09 20:21:01 <TheKeithNewman> boot loops stink
Apr 09 20:21:20 <TheKeithNewman> flashing... again :(
Apr 09 20:23:07 * Loudergood is getting ready to doctor right now
Apr 09 20:26:54 <AStice> The instructions for the Sprint Pre Plus process tell to run the standard Sprint doctor, does that mean I could run the 2.1 metadoctor that I already built for it to get it to 2.1?
Apr 09 20:34:43 <TheKeithNewman> ok, finally booted in
Apr 09 20:34:48 <TheKeithNewman> after my 8th doctor session
Apr 09 20:34:54 <TheKeithNewman> did nothign different
Apr 09 20:34:56 <TheKeithNewman> nothing
Apr 09 20:42:07 <bhuey> dude
Apr 09 20:42:23 <bhuey> royalty on the channel nice
Apr 09 20:42:55 <TheKeithNewman> huh?
Apr 09 20:43:11 <bhuey> King Newman
Apr 09 20:43:12 <bhuey> :)
Apr 09 20:43:27 <TheKeithNewman> lol... nah.
Apr 09 20:43:36 <TheKeithNewman> cute tho
Apr 09 20:43:53 <bhuey> Well, journalistic royalty at least
Apr 09 20:44:25 <TheKeithNewman> not even that ;)
Apr 09 20:44:57 <bhuey> ok kings of WebOS live video comedy
Apr 09 20:45:04 <TheKeithNewman> I'll take it
Apr 09 20:45:06 <TheKeithNewman> :D
Apr 09 20:45:39 <bhuey> yeah the next increasingly cut comments was "the last folks to use WebOS and live to tell about it"
Apr 09 20:47:18 <bhuey> :)
Apr 09 20:55:44 <TheKeithNewman> now stuck on Palm Profile
Apr 09 20:55:47 <TheKeithNewman> looks about 70%
Apr 09 21:05:04 <NuttyBunny> TheKeithNewman: Did you delete your backup data before doctoring to 2.1?
Apr 09 21:29:18 <dtzWill|wirc> yay wirc goodness
Apr 09 21:29:37 <dtzWill|wirc> ty to all involved :D, don't use it much but looooove it when I do
Apr 09 21:29:57 <Tibfib> dtzWill: have you given thought to hybrid?
Apr 09 21:30:07 <dtzWill|wirc> so, uh, good work all :D
Apr 09 21:31:07 <dtzWill|wirc> Tibfib: no, but its a good idea for sure.  haven't looked closely enough at the hybrid arch to discuss the details, but definitely sounds good
Apr 09 21:31:23 <dtzWill|wirc> would love the ui improvement too
Apr 09 21:31:48 <Tibfib> I love vba, I want to help out :)
Apr 09 21:31:50 <dtzWill|wirc> as a reviewer once wrote, it looks like an atari, and that's not a compliment ^.^
Apr 09 21:32:00 <Tibfib> heheh
Apr 09 21:32:30 <dtzWill|wirc> good.  probably won't have time to throw at it properly personally until end of semester, as much as that makes me :( to admit
Apr 09 21:33:00 <Tibfib> dtzWill|wirc: sounds good, lemme know
Apr 09 21:33:11 <Tibfib> btw, are you gonna be in urbana this summer?
Apr 09 21:33:19 <dtzWill|wirc> will do.  ty for the idea and taking the initiative
Apr 09 21:33:41 <dtzWill|wirc> Tibfib: yeeeess :).  live there.
Apr 09 21:33:49 <dtzWill|wirc> in WI atm, hehe
Apr 09 21:33:57 <Tibfib> well I didn't know if you were doing an internship or something :)
Apr 09 21:34:14 <dtzWill|wirc> Tibfib: why? do I know you/you in the area? :)
Apr 09 21:34:34 <Tibfib> I'm hoping to do a college visit sometime later in the summer and if you're around it'd be cool to chat
Apr 09 21:34:50 <dtzWill|wirc> sure thing
Apr 09 21:35:11 <dtzWill|wirc> email me at webos@wdtz.org or pm me and we can arrange something
Apr 09 21:35:40 <Tibfib> sweet. will do once I know details/schedule it
Apr 09 21:36:00 <dtzWill|wirc> mmhmm. just lemme know :)
Apr 09 21:36:24 <dtzWill|wirc> alright, well gtg guys :D
Apr 09 21:36:31 <dtzWill|wirc> take care, stay awesome, etc
Apr 09 21:36:32 <dtzWill|wirc> o/
Apr 09 21:36:40 <oil> no multi-touch in hybrids
Apr 09 21:36:54 <oil> that will make vba hard to controll
Apr 09 21:37:09 <oil> if you can't, lets say, hold right while tapping jump
Apr 09 21:37:13 <Tibfib> wha?
Apr 09 21:37:14 <Tibfib> really?
Apr 09 21:37:16 <Tibfib> that's stupid
Apr 09 21:37:17 <oil> yeah
Apr 09 21:37:23 <Tibfib> fudge.
Apr 09 21:37:24 <oil> it is
Apr 09 21:37:32 <Tibfib> I wanna make vba sexy :(
Apr 09 21:38:01 <Tibfib> I use keyboard controls anyway, but I know others like the vkb
Apr 09 21:42:37 <createsoftware> Hi all! I've copid the db files from my phone (/var/db), and I understand that these are JSON database files, but I can't figure out which internal format these files use. Is it a documented format?
Apr 09 21:42:47 <createsoftware> s/copid/copied
Apr 09 21:44:17 <createsoftware> Trying to open these files in a text editor doesn't help much; there's some readable text, but lots of control chars
Apr 09 21:45:18 <createsoftware> The files don't seem to be compressed
Apr 09 21:45:31 <createsoftware> so I really wonder what format they use.
Apr 09 21:45:34 <createsoftware> Ideas?
Apr 09 21:45:58 <wgreenhouse> createsoftware: check the wiki.  I believe most of them are sqlite3 databases
Apr 09 21:46:02 <Loudergood> damn...failed meta dr again..
Apr 09 21:46:24 <createsoftware> wgreenhouse: nope; I'm using webos 2.0 :/
Apr 09 21:46:33 <wgreenhouse> oh, no clue then, sorry
Apr 09 21:46:35 <createsoftware> sorry for not mentioning it
Apr 09 21:47:01 <createsoftware> There's info on https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/mojo/db8.html
Apr 09 21:47:09 <createsoftware> (they call it "db8")
Apr 09 21:47:22 <createsoftware> but I can't figure out what internal format they are using
Apr 09 21:48:17 <createsoftware> There's clearly plenty of JSON data (initialRev":28226,"parts":[{"_id":"6e35","charset":"windows-1252","encodedSize":5514,"encoding":"quoted-printable","estimatedSize":11028,"mimeType":"text/html","path":"/var/file-cache/email/U3/QnrgAg+.html","section":"2","type":"body"}],"sortKeys for example)
Apr 09 21:49:54 <wgreenhouse> hmm
Apr 09 21:50:43 <wgreenhouse> "though a vast improvement on current webOS storage mechanisms..." buh, the 1.x method was sqlite3
Apr 09 21:51:00 <wgreenhouse> which does offer "a rich set of SQL or SQL-like commands"
Apr 09 21:51:08 <wgreenhouse> kitty has doubts about vast improvement
Apr 09 21:54:34 <createsoftware> I loved sqlite3 myself
Apr 09 21:55:00 <wgreenhouse> ah well
Apr 09 21:56:20 <createsoftware> Anyway, it's pretty annoying: sql3 was nicely readable from my computer, while I can't make had and tail of the new db8 thingy.
Apr 09 21:56:44 <createsoftware> wgreenhouse: Thanks for your help though =) I'll try #webos :)
Apr 09 21:57:08 <wgreenhouse> if you're on some sort of unix box, I'd suggest running the "file" command on it
Apr 09 21:57:17 <wgreenhouse> should at least have a plausible guess
Apr 09 21:58:44 <createsoftware> hmm, interesting; I didn't know this command (:/)
Apr 09 21:58:53 <createsoftware> let me check
Apr 09 21:59:58 <wgreenhouse> brb
Apr 09 22:00:10 * Loudergood does the "it's past 82%" dance
Apr 09 22:04:02 <createsoftware> wgreenhouse: Bingo!
Apr 09 22:04:12 <createsoftware> Impressive.
Apr 09 22:04:16 <createsoftware> Berkley DB
Apr 09 22:11:11 <createsoftware> Dunno how the file command found it out, but it did. Wow.
Apr 09 22:15:45 <NickNick> i'm trying to get a klog off my pre, but can't get the command to work
Apr 09 22:16:02 <ice8lue> heyho
Apr 09 22:16:07 <NickNick> on OSX i'm using novaterm, with the command "novacom get file://klog
Apr 09 22:16:19 <ice8lue> rwhitby I really need your help with my per-
Apr 09 22:16:33 <ice8lue> pre-
Apr 09 22:16:43 <NickNick> with > log.txt as output, but i just get the help screen for novacom
Apr 09 22:16:54 <ice8lue> somehow the toucscreens(driver?) seems to be broken
Apr 09 22:19:33 <ice8lue> after using the pre some minutes, the screen is getting wonky. the bottom right corner (launcher icon + equal space left and top) does not respond to touches anymore
Apr 09 22:20:18 <ice8lue> then it starts to touch itself, open up the wave, move icons, start programs,...even make phone calls!
Apr 09 22:20:53 <ice8lue> redoctoring does not help, wether it is 2.1 or 1.4.5
Apr 09 22:21:31 <ice8lue> do you guys have any ideas on that?
Apr 09 22:27:46 <NickNick> ice8blue: did you check your battery?
Apr 09 22:27:48 <NickNick> is it loose?
Apr 09 22:28:57 <ice8lue> yes i did an it fits quite good in, not loose
Apr 09 22:29:17 <ice8lue> also, if i turn the screen off and on again, it works for some minutes
Apr 09 22:29:32 <NickNick> sounds like a hardware issue to me...
Apr 09 22:29:47 <NickNick> or could be, i guess i should say
Apr 09 22:29:56 <NickNick> what kernel are you using?
Apr 09 22:30:08 <ice8lue> standard palm kernel atm.
Apr 09 22:30:24 <ice8lue> i was using uberkernel but thought it could may be because of that
Apr 09 22:30:37 <NickNick> have you disabled profile and reboot with Govnah?
Apr 09 22:30:39 <ice8lue> currently, a clean fresh 1.4.5 is running
Apr 09 22:30:55 <NickNick> well, if you doctored, then that shouldn't make a difference
Apr 09 22:31:01 <NickNick> (what i said,i mean)
Apr 09 22:31:49 <ice8lue> ya... that failure occured very surprisingly
Apr 09 22:31:55 <ice8lue> no fall-downs or anything
Apr 09 22:32:12 <ice8lue> it started to act crazy on the touchstone
Apr 09 22:32:16 <ice8lue> and now that...
Apr 09 22:32:54 <NickNick> have you read this: http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/252309-palm-pre-touching-itself.html
Apr 09 22:33:02 <ice8lue> yes
Apr 09 22:33:17 <NickNick> i haven't ;)
Apr 09 22:33:27 <ice8lue> but the fixes there don't seem to help
Apr 09 22:34:07 <ice8lue> well they advice to put some tape in to get some pressure onto the battery
Apr 09 22:34:26 <NickNick> did that help?
Apr 09 22:34:31 <ice8lue> nope =/
Apr 09 22:39:06 <ice8lue> hm stupid touchscreen^^
Apr 09 22:39:16 <ice8lue> cu guys, will go to sleep now
Apr 09 22:39:19 <ice8lue> gn8i
Apr 09 22:39:41 <rwhitby> createsoftware: files in /var/db are db8 format.  proprietary to Palm.
Apr 09 22:40:22 <ice8lue> rwhitby, do u have an idea?
Apr 09 22:40:42 <rwhitby> touchscreen issues are usually transient hardware problems
Apr 09 22:40:54 <ice8lue> hmm
Apr 09 22:41:04 <ice8lue> so i may should send it in
Apr 09 22:41:44 <ice8lue> ok, good night ;)
Apr 09 22:42:57 <rwhitby> doctor it first to be sure
Apr 09 22:45:13 <NickNick> I'm trying to get a kernel log, but when i type "novacom get file://klog > log.txt" the log.txt just shows the options help for novacom
Apr 09 22:45:36 <NickNick> what am i doing wrong?
Apr 09 22:46:36 <rwhitby> you lost power
Apr 09 22:46:47 <rwhitby> it only remains if power to the RAM was constant
Apr 09 22:47:19 <rwhitby> oh, hang on, you're saying novacom is not even accepting the command
Apr 09 22:47:24 <NickNick> right
Apr 09 22:49:05 <NickNick> i did remove the battery though. so i guess it's gone. In the future i should get the klog while its frozen?
Apr 09 22:50:14 <rwhitby> yes, you have to have usb power applied, and momentarily glitch the battery, while holding up vol to get into recovery mode
Apr 09 22:50:22 <rwhitby> it's a tricky thing to do
Apr 09 22:51:30 * rwhitby bbl
Apr 09 22:51:34 <NickNick> ok, so next time plug in usb, bump the battery out while holding the vol up button, boot to recovery, then get the klog
Apr 09 22:53:37 <NickNick> i'm not in recovery mode now, does that explain why novacom won't accept the get command?
Apr 09 22:55:50 <NuttyBunny> novacom should get the file anyway, unless it isn't there
Apr 09 23:01:30 <NickNick> thats what i thought, but it keeps giving me the options screen for novacom
Apr 09 23:41:09 <preminus> if we are redoctoring to 2.1.0 on legacy do we need to run scripts again or can we just use our already created doctor?
Apr 09 23:41:34 <Loudergood> same phone?
Apr 09 23:41:41 <preminus> yeah
Apr 09 23:41:46 <Loudergood> and how long ago were those doctors made?
Apr 09 23:42:02 <preminus> i did it last night and i am doing it again today
Apr 09 23:42:28 <Loudergood> yeah just reuse the one in the build directory that's right
Apr 09 23:42:44 <preminus> ok thx
Apr 09 23:44:09 <Loudergood> so weird getting used to this glass vs the matte texture of the screen protector on my pre plus
Apr 09 23:46:05 <preminus> u have pre 2?
Apr 09 23:49:56 <Loudergood> yup
Apr 09 23:50:38 <preminus> is the glass better than the pre plus screen?
Apr 09 23:51:43 <Loudergood> it's flat all the way to the edges
Apr 09 23:52:14 <Loudergood> and I know that my pre plus scratched way too easily
Apr 09 23:52:34 <SineOt> it's way better
Apr 09 23:52:36 <SineOt> by far
Apr 10 00:36:09 <Loudergood> GPS error occured...sweet
Apr 10 00:37:04 <Loudergood> guess I should put together a WR pre plus while I'm at it
Apr 10 01:03:44 <Loudergood> ok the wr preplus appears to be booting without doctoring...
Apr 10 01:20:56 * Loudergood wonders why his search for drpodder in preware is resulting in 600 appible results
Apr 10 01:44:52 <rwhitby> Loudergood: cause we made then state in the description that their apps are based on drpodder source code
Apr 10 01:45:18 <Loudergood> lol
Apr 10 01:45:43 <Loudergood> so they're even more annoying than I thought they were
Apr 10 01:45:45 <Loudergood> figures
Apr 10 01:46:44 <Loudergood> so I just did a WR pre2 to verizon swap
Apr 10 01:47:14 <Loudergood> and the pre2 downloaded a webos 2.1 update afterwards, and the only thing that seems to have been added is the sim toolkit....
Apr 10 01:47:42 <rwhitby> sounds like you used the wrong meta-script
Apr 10 01:48:05 <Loudergood> also I put the WR commboard on the vzw preplus and it just booted fine
Apr 10 01:48:18 <rwhitby> yes, that's expected
Apr 10 01:48:32 <rwhitby> the telephony service will be screwed though
Apr 10 01:49:01 <Loudergood> you would think so, but I used the meta-verizon-franken-unlocked-pre2 script
Apr 10 01:49:38 <rwhitby> ah, yes. that will OTA update to WR carrier apps
Apr 10 01:50:17 <Loudergood> oh ok
Apr 10 01:50:20 <rwhitby> if you don't want that, change the tokens to be a real verizon pre2 and flash the stock verizon pre 2 doctor
Apr 10 01:50:53 <Loudergood> I don't really care, since I'm only technically using it on verizon anyway
Apr 10 01:51:01 <Loudergood> I'm using it on a verizon MVNO
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