**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 20 02:59:58 2011 Apr 20 03:00:30 you had the verizon one? Apr 20 03:00:48 I actually converted the GSM one to a verizon one Apr 20 03:00:59 which also turned out strangely Apr 20 03:01:02 at first Apr 20 03:01:08 well what did you do? Apr 20 03:01:40 i just need to get this working Apr 20 03:02:59 I had to recreate the doctor Apr 20 03:03:05 for some reason the first one didn't work Apr 20 03:30:04 Loudergood, wait, was bubby323 trying to make an unlocked pre 2(aka gsm) doctor work on his sprint pre 2? Apr 20 03:30:42 sounds like he was using the meta doctor script Apr 20 03:31:02 with a vzw pre2 and a sprint commboard Apr 20 03:31:32 so he needed to make the sprint pre 2 not the unlocked pre 2 lol Apr 20 03:31:54 ugh..you're right.. Apr 20 03:33:13 wait..that one says sprint Apr 20 03:33:32 are there two sprint franken pre2 doctors? Apr 20 03:33:41 no ... Apr 20 03:33:48 only the sprintpre2 one Apr 20 03:35:45 maybe I should've pointed him to the test ones Apr 20 03:36:00 bubby323> and the doctor made with ./scripts/meta-sprint-franken-unlocked-pre2-2.1.0 script. says 'not compatible with your device' Apr 20 03:36:42 yup...the test-meta-sprint-franken-verizon-pre2 script Apr 20 03:46:47 anyone with an unactivated/wifi only pre2? Apr 20 03:48:03 Activation was like, the first thing I did ;o Apr 20 03:48:44 well.. do you ever experience wifi issues? Apr 20 03:49:29 with my wifi only pre2, most the time (only starting recently) when rebooting/shut down + power up, the wifi radio doesn't turn back on.. Apr 20 03:49:40 and it takes another full power cycle to fix it Apr 20 03:49:52 sorry.. Apr 20 03:54:06 can't say I've ever run into that Apr 20 03:54:20 ok.. I'll wait for others to ask them Apr 20 04:01:56 I'm goin to bed.. I'll look for more people tomorrow Apr 20 07:27:34 morning Apr 20 08:05:11 WHERE ARE OIL AND PUFFTHEMAGIC Apr 20 08:05:13 I HAVE GOOD NEWS Apr 20 08:05:27 oh? Apr 20 08:05:56 YES Apr 20 08:06:17 we're gonna clear out the submission for wIRC Apr 20 08:06:29 nice Apr 20 08:06:49 yay Apr 20 08:07:10 has wosi ever worked on a scummVM beta app? Apr 20 08:07:12 when is this going to happen? Apr 20 08:07:17 we've got a lot of stuff going on right now and can't get to it right away, but I made my nerd commit to doing it within the next 3 weeks Apr 20 08:07:43 (yes, that's a long time. Like I said, it's a terribly invasive process) Apr 20 08:07:53 but its worth the wait :) Apr 20 08:08:08 thanks Apr 20 08:09:10 I'm glad it looks like I can finally start going back to being a hero Apr 20 08:09:17 the last couple of weeks have been hell Apr 20 08:09:27 you ARE the hero Apr 20 08:09:43 yeah Apr 20 09:13:21 Adora: you've always been my hero ;) Apr 20 09:20:21 dawwwwwwwww Apr 20 12:26:04 Adora, thanks for coming though!!! Apr 20 13:09:45 * NuttyBunny appears in a cloud of smoke :) Apr 20 15:02:07 afternoon guys Apr 20 15:03:28 afternoon (morning over here, but whatever) ;) Apr 20 15:06:00 anyone has problems with he app catalog the past two days? Apr 20 15:06:23 i get "this action couldn't be completed try again later Apr 20 15:06:57 Yep, Palm's unofficial answer is that they're upgrading several things on the servers for the new phones and the touchpad Apr 20 15:09:25 oh i see, hope that by some inadvertent mistake they forget the geo-restriction thing when they bring their servers up Apr 20 15:10:23 i'm pissed with my catalog telling me each time how unlucky I am to live where I live Apr 20 15:12:39 this is what i get from the logs about the app catalog error http://pastebin.com/MFbVxFgN Apr 20 15:17:43 kamthor: where did you activate your device? what device is it? Apr 20 15:19:50 SFR PRE plus, bypassed activation using metadoctor, the thing is until two days ago it was working ok Apr 20 15:20:06 paid apps were available Apr 20 15:20:21 the palm profile says country: united states Apr 20 15:23:48 mmmmmm... I do think it was activated in the States... or did Rod helped you to preactivate it? Apr 20 15:25:56 nope, just metadoctored it and bypassed activation. anyway, what do you think of the log? could it be that a failed insatllation messed up the app catalog database? Apr 20 15:46:34 kamthor: sorry, I think there's something wrong on your device, it seems as the server can't get your device country, but I don't know if the country is defined on the device or on the server :S Apr 20 15:46:54 did you make your meta doctor in windows or linux/mac? Apr 20 15:47:05 i have a sprint pre - i upgrade to 2.1, since then my ringers and sounds have been inconsistent... is this an issue with 2.1 or how could i resolve this issue Apr 20 15:47:25 same question for jackjohn, windows or linux? Apr 20 15:47:41 windows Apr 20 15:54:54 jackjohn: http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/276460-how-install-webos-2-1-0-pre-pre-using-meta-doctor-93.html#post2935077 Apr 20 15:55:01 Windows is evil for creating meta doctors Apr 20 15:55:31 you will have to download some Linux distribution and do your doctor there. After it's done you can move it back to windows and flash your phone there Apr 20 15:58:56 same goes for kamthor if he did his metadoctor under windows Apr 20 15:59:10 is there reported issues with ringers and sounds doing metadoctor through windows Apr 20 16:02:57 not that I remember, but there are a lot of underground things that can be affected by the errors windows generates in the images :( Apr 20 16:06:06 so if i install ubuntu on a vm and try it from there Apr 20 16:06:11 should be more successful? Apr 20 16:07:30 Of course, you're eliminating completely this layer of trouble... the problem is that when the doctor uncompresses the doctor image and recompresses it, it loses attributes on several files (not all, that's what baffles me) Apr 20 16:08:10 If you go through the vm route, I recommend that you create the doctor in the vm and then move the doctor out from the vm and run it under windows, this way you won't have problems with usb Apr 20 16:09:51 NuttyBunny: I'm exclusively on linux Since 2008 ;) Apr 20 16:10:38 kamthor: I beat you, since 2000 :D (and using it since '92), so your problem is entirely different :) Apr 20 16:15:31 i dont think my problem has something to do with the metadoctor, I installed 2.1 back in march and the app catalog was working fine until two days ago Apr 20 16:16:07 all bi remember is that i had a failed app install using WOSQI Apr 20 16:20:50 kamthor: You should wait a day or two, there have been several app cat issues this week, caused by Palm upgrading things on their servers Apr 20 16:21:34 WAAAAAAIT a second. I tried the new impostah features Apr 20 16:22:12 the ones giving access to palm profile options Apr 20 16:22:23 although i didn't change a setting Apr 20 16:22:31 no Apr 20 16:22:41 no overrides whatsoever Apr 20 16:24:39 hmm now that i think of it, when i try 'check paid apps access and "check access country i get the same error that was in the app catalog log Apr 20 16:25:28 really? that's weird, very weird... Apr 20 16:25:46 ie:{"errorCodes": "DISC7000", "message": "Uncaught JSON Error:GetDeviceCountry: extractDeviceProfiles Failed: java.lang.String Response: {\"UserProfileDeviceInfoList\":\"\"}"} Apr 20 16:25:56 yup, weird indeed Apr 20 16:26:40 i think we're closing in on the culprit Apr 20 16:27:20 what do you get when tapping "Show Palm Profile" in the App Catalog scene? Apr 20 16:28:03 if i bring my phone into the sprint store should i restore it back to 1.4.5? Apr 20 16:28:16 would they raise questions if it was at 2.1 Apr 20 16:28:17 lots of _id and other stuff related to palm profile Apr 20 16:30:21 "device profile service override" patch has been installed on 17/4/2011 Apr 20 16:30:26 hehe Apr 20 16:30:48 i think it might have something to do with it Apr 20 16:30:59 jackjohn: Please redoctor to the latest official version for the carrier before taking it in :D Apr 20 16:31:16 I'll remove it and restart Apr 20 16:31:21 kamthor: mmm... no, it shouldn't affect Apr 20 16:31:32 hmm Apr 20 16:31:37 it affects when you put some overrides in the device profile scene Apr 20 16:31:43 but try removing it Apr 20 16:31:45 strange coincidence though Apr 20 16:32:08 maybe something slipped through ;) Apr 20 16:32:16 booting android now... Apr 20 16:38:11 nuttybunny: on your pre?? Apr 20 16:38:53 yep, didn't work... now I have a nice real river stone that does nothing :D hahahahaha Apr 20 16:39:32 Noo way!! but i thought the pre is unbrickable Apr 20 16:40:18 of course is unbrickable Apr 20 16:40:24 fixing it right now :D Apr 20 16:42:24 like you said, the override patch had nothing to do Apr 20 16:44:27 hmm in palm profile scene in impostah when i tap check device in use i get "false", how come Apr 20 16:45:05 anyone with an unactivated/wifi only pre2 here? Apr 20 16:45:47 kamthor: mine too, maybe that's unrelated Apr 20 16:58:47 hello Apr 20 16:59:11 hi Apr 20 17:01:51 so i got ubuntu running on a virtual box Apr 20 17:02:09 now i need to install the sdk Apr 20 17:04:33 or first meta doctor, i just paste those cmds into terminal window Apr 20 17:05:43 jackjohn: what guide are you following? Apr 20 17:06:03 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade#MetaDoctor Apr 20 17:06:25 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor Apr 20 17:06:36 is what i am doing now Apr 20 17:16:50 jackjohn: good luck Apr 20 17:18:48 jackjohn: Excellent, those are the official guides, good luck :D Apr 20 17:19:05 confused a little on getting the sdk Apr 20 17:19:23 ok, hold on, on the meta doctor wiki? Apr 20 17:19:38 iits says to deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lucid non-free Apr 20 17:21:17 why does it have a virtual box url when im trying to get the hp sdk? Apr 20 17:22:16 and when i run that cmd from a terminal i get error Apr 20 17:22:29 meta doctor wiki? or upgrade wiki? Apr 20 17:22:54 there is a link to install sdk in upgrade wiki Apr 20 17:22:55 https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/sdk_pdk_download.html#linux Apr 20 17:23:11 ok, wait Apr 20 17:23:24 if it's wrong we'll fix it :) Apr 20 17:24:30 Palm SDK See Palm Developer Website for Windows and for Ubuntu. Apr 20 17:24:35 is what im refering to Apr 20 17:25:09 Ok, I'll correct that one. For windows you need the full sdk, for ubuntu you just need the novacom driver Apr 20 17:25:19 you're running this on ubuntu, right? Apr 20 17:25:28 I wish I could help.. but I just use ubuntu to make the meta-doctor, and windows to run it Apr 20 17:25:57 i have ubuntu on a vm Apr 20 17:26:14 so windows is your host? Apr 20 17:26:16 base machine is windows Apr 20 17:26:17 yes Apr 20 17:26:44 then you could make it in ubuntu, drop it onto a flash drive, and run from windows Apr 20 17:26:44 ive installed novacom drivers on ubuntu Apr 20 17:27:13 so i dont need sdk on ubuntu machine? Apr 20 17:27:28 do you do development on ubuntu# Apr 20 17:27:33 s/#/?/ Apr 20 17:27:34 PatrickC_Pre2 meant: do you do development on ubuntu? Apr 20 17:27:46 for meta doctor, just novacom, it comes with novaterm as well Apr 20 17:27:51 hold on, give me 10 mins Apr 20 17:27:53 brb Apr 20 17:28:01 cya nuttybunny: Apr 20 17:28:11 ok, so now just built metadoctor on ubuntu Apr 20 17:28:19 jackjohn: do you want to run the doctor from ubuntu or windows? Apr 20 17:29:01 * phil_bw wanders by Apr 20 17:29:07 * PatrickC_Pre2 sticks foot out Apr 20 17:29:28 nuttybunny suggested to build it on ubuntu then move to windows Apr 20 17:29:37 yep, that's what I do Apr 20 17:30:02 the easiest way for me is to put it on dropbox using ubuntu, then download it with windows Apr 20 17:30:14 ok so which steps do i do on linux Apr 20 17:30:15 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor Apr 20 17:31:05 i have done step 1 Apr 20 17:32:20 1 second.. lemme look Apr 20 17:32:42 ready... Apr 20 17:32:58 I believe after step 1, you start on the 2.x upgrade page Apr 20 17:33:02 hay nuttybunny Apr 20 17:33:08 hay Patrick Apr 20 17:33:23 Step 2: Running the webOS Doctor Apr 20 17:33:28 nuttybunny: I'll try to make that tutorial app, and email you the ipk Apr 20 17:33:40 wget http://palm.cdnetworks.net/rom/pre/p1351r0d01082010/sr1ntp1351rod/webosdoctorp100ewwsprint.jar Apr 20 17:33:53 jackjohn: are you trying to make a 2.x meta doctor? Apr 20 17:33:59 or just a regular one? Apr 20 17:34:04 2.1 Apr 20 17:34:13 jackjohn: If you're using a VM you wouldn't need the novacom drivers, the best thing to do is to take out the doctor from the VM and run it in windows Apr 20 17:34:21 ok, now run the device specific script iirc Apr 20 17:34:52 nuttybunny: I told him to upload it to dropbox and download it on windows Apr 20 17:35:38 mmm...... a bit overkill, but it works Apr 20 17:35:42 so from the vm run ./scripts/meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0 Apr 20 17:36:01 ? Apr 20 17:36:04 yes, I believe that's the next step Apr 20 17:36:09 lemme double check Apr 20 17:36:51 have you prepared your Palm Profile? Apr 20 17:37:12 yes Apr 20 17:37:28 then the next step is running the script Apr 20 17:37:40 yep Apr 20 17:39:34 i get no such directory Apr 20 17:39:51 did you back out of the downloads directory? Apr 20 17:40:40 did not Apr 20 17:40:45 how do you do that in linux Apr 20 17:40:50 cd .. Apr 20 17:41:07 space gotcha Apr 20 17:41:21 ok there it goes Apr 20 17:41:34 yep Apr 20 17:41:36 * NuttyBunny crosses fingers Apr 20 17:41:39 so now once that finishes i copy it over to my windows machine Apr 20 17:41:39 ? Apr 20 17:41:46 yep Apr 20 17:42:14 how much ram did you allot the VBox? Apr 20 17:42:22 512 Apr 20 17:42:30 and hard disk? Apr 20 17:42:36 10 GB Apr 20 17:42:50 ah, nice Apr 20 17:43:01 it should take about 10-20 min to finish iirc with that much RAM.. I did 1.5GB and it took a while for mine Apr 20 17:43:23 it doesn't need too much ram, it works with small files Apr 20 17:43:57 I know it works with minimal ram :) but the more, the faster, correct? Apr 20 17:44:11 so once i get it copied over to my windows machine Apr 20 17:44:15 what do i do after that? Apr 20 17:44:30 run it like its a normal meta-doctor Apr 20 17:44:37 ok Apr 20 17:44:44 have you read the whole wiki page? Apr 20 17:45:01 yeah i have my phone already at 2.1 but i did it all on windows with cygen Apr 20 17:45:12 and have some sound issues Apr 20 17:45:15 ah ok Apr 20 17:45:22 just makin sure :) Apr 20 17:46:25 i hear ya Apr 20 17:49:57 i might go back to 1.4.5 first and bring it in to see if they will replace my phone, as the head phone jack stays active after i unplug it often Apr 20 17:50:34 plug/unplug the headphones a few times to fix it temporarily Apr 20 17:50:40 I read something about graphite powder, spray some in the jack, then plug and unplug it about 10 times Apr 20 17:51:07 brb, gotta test some stupid vpn :S Apr 20 17:51:15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZUBfQsaDsk&feature=youtube_gdata_player Apr 20 17:51:46 jackjohn: sprint pre-? Apr 20 17:52:38 yes Apr 20 17:53:16 do you have any other webOS phones? Apr 20 17:54:34 ok, seems to work :) Apr 20 17:54:38 how's that doctor going? Apr 20 17:56:04 yes a palm pixi Apr 20 17:57:36 doctor is still building Apr 20 17:58:02 * NuttyBunny looks at jackjohn's pixi ... .oO (2.1 Pixi....) Apr 20 17:59:13 nuttybunny looks at all pixi's Apr 20 17:59:50 can pixi be 2.1? Apr 20 18:00:11 well, its *possible* Apr 20 18:00:14 shhh.. it's a sekrit ;) Apr 20 18:00:26 hehe Apr 20 18:00:34 what's a sekrit? Apr 20 18:01:00 * PatrickC_Pre2 likes secrets better Apr 20 18:01:48 how do i do that? Apr 20 18:01:57 we don't know yet :) Apr 20 18:02:27 ^^ key word Apr 20 18:02:33 man, didn't work... Apr 20 18:02:39 There are currently 2 known pixis with 2.x (there were 3, but the owner of one doctored it to 1.4.5) Apr 20 18:02:58 stupid.. Apr 20 18:03:30 "someone" has a backup of the 1st 2.x pixi, and the community donated a Pixi to him, and he's just waiting for it to arrive so he can experiment Apr 20 18:03:45 I love to talk in 3rd person ;) Apr 20 18:04:20 the community donated me a pixi?! how nice Apr 20 18:04:48 hahaha Apr 20 18:04:55 do you want to do it? :P Apr 20 18:05:11 not really :p Apr 20 18:05:53 its my gf's phone Apr 20 18:06:18 ah, no, then you should wait until we have something better than just a bunch of files Apr 20 18:06:29 yeah.. Apr 20 18:06:41 * PatrickC_Pre2 wishes he still had his pixi for developmental use Apr 20 18:07:32 * NuttyBunny pokes at the AoP.sh file to fix the non-booting issue Apr 20 18:11:16 Boys, I need a quick beta test done before I submit some homebrew. Just install with preware/internalz and let me know if it vibrates Apr 20 18:11:32 another one?? :D hehehe Apr 20 18:11:45 after the changes, need to make sure it works Apr 20 18:12:00 has "that" been fixed? Apr 20 18:12:00 using a different jail this time too, should work without the restart Apr 20 18:12:03 up for it? Apr 20 18:12:04 yes Apr 20 18:12:10 ok Apr 20 18:12:14 ok Apr 20 18:12:21 mine vibrated last time thoug Apr 20 18:12:35 I have the patch installed Apr 20 18:12:39 so "that" has been fixed? Apr 20 18:12:40 yeah, the two of you are actually the last people I wanted to test this... Apr 20 18:12:41 should I uninstall it? Apr 20 18:12:43 what patch? Apr 20 18:13:07 the last version detected if the app was jailed and then installed a patch if it was Apr 20 18:13:12 I never used any patch Apr 20 18:13:29 this version patches then installs, and won't install unless the patch works Apr 20 18:13:43 it also doesn't require homebrew-js-service Apr 20 18:13:45 so I should remove the patch? Apr 20 18:14:28 uninstall the lot, and remove the /var/palm/ls2 files related to it, and delete any lines referencing it in /var/palm/data/jailusers Apr 20 18:14:34 then reboot, and install new version Apr 20 18:14:36 I have 1 more app I'm gonna test to make sure "that" is fixed on my end (sense I found it last time) Apr 20 18:15:05 ok, hold on Apr 20 18:15:11 word from the HPorses mouth is that 'that' is fixed and I am good for a release Apr 20 18:15:27 cool Apr 20 18:15:42 "that" was cool.. but bad Apr 20 18:15:56 well, they still have issues, the kamthor user here on IRC couldn't access his app catalog on a SFR Pre+ Apr 20 18:16:18 direct him my way Apr 20 18:16:43 we should stop talking about 'that', irc logs will be confusing Apr 20 18:16:55 mmm... I sent him to Rod and Palm directly, he's using a valid doctor/profile version combination :) Apr 20 18:17:29 no more mention of Voldemort ;) Apr 20 18:17:33 also, rooted my Xperia Arc :) Apr 20 18:17:42 well when the pixi stuff is ready ill be sure to install it Apr 20 18:17:53 pixi stuff? Apr 20 18:17:57 mgschu: I don't have to "root" my pre :) Apr 20 18:20:15 * PatrickC_Pre2 is learning CSS Apr 20 18:20:38 ok webdoctor has started on ubuntu machine Apr 20 18:21:04 mmm.... css.... attack my rounded borders! Attack! Apr 20 18:21:11 can i browse to it via my windows machine Apr 20 18:21:17 hey ppl Apr 20 18:21:26 or do i have to copy via usb from vm to host Apr 20 18:21:32 anyone know if andriod is gonna be ported to the webos devices Apr 20 18:21:55 msf18222: why would it? Apr 20 18:22:02 msd18222: http://forums.precentral.net/other-handhelds/278450-android-pre-3.html Apr 20 18:22:19 jackjohn: I believe it can be browsed by the windows machine, exactly, idk Apr 20 18:22:23 evening Apr 20 18:22:29 jackjohn: vbox or vmware? Apr 20 18:22:33 hay swisstomcat Apr 20 18:22:37 hai Apr 20 18:22:40 box Apr 20 18:22:52 jackjohn: you have to enable file sharing to see it from windows Apr 20 18:23:09 swisstomcat: evening :) Apr 20 18:23:18 hey nuttybunny Apr 20 18:23:20 jackjohn: join #vbox Apr 20 18:24:05 thanks nuttybunny Apr 20 18:24:13 too many options to take the doctor from the vm... Apr 20 18:24:15 what is the path of the file on the vm Apr 20 18:24:39 nm found it Apr 20 18:24:46 meta-doctor/build/ T.T why isnt andriod bootable without being tethered to a pc Apr 20 18:27:54 at this current moment im pcless :( Apr 20 18:28:58 keep reading :P Apr 20 18:29:29 whats the easiest way to get the file from vm to host? Apr 20 18:29:36 msd18222: there's an experimental (as if something happens and you don't have a cpu you're fucked up) Apr 20 18:29:43 jackjohn: usb stick Apr 20 18:30:16 did you enable usb 2.0 support on the VM? Apr 20 18:31:10 well find out here Apr 20 18:31:17 attempting to connect now Apr 20 18:31:31 ya but isnt there a way to do it without a computer? Apr 20 18:32:01 yep, xterm or terminus, but if it doesn't work you'll have a nice brick until you can get to a computer to fix it Apr 20 18:32:17 =\ Apr 20 18:32:33 ya but whats the method for doing it without a pc Apr 20 18:32:41 i mean my fone has no service anyways Apr 20 18:32:48 so its useless right now to me Apr 20 18:33:36 Instead "Run novaterm and paste next 3 lines to it:", think of it as "run xterm and type the next 3 lines" Apr 20 18:33:53 jackjohn: managed to connect the usb stick to the vm? Apr 20 18:34:18 its still thinking Apr 20 18:34:26 jackjohn: look for the small usb icon on the Vbox window, click on it and look for your usb stick Apr 20 18:34:31 can this be done on the pixi itself with terminal Apr 20 18:34:39 yeah i did that Apr 20 18:34:45 thats whats its thinking on Apr 20 18:34:50 msd18222: ah, Pixi, tough luck, won't work :( Apr 20 18:34:59 o.o why not Apr 20 18:35:16 mgschu: how's the patch called? or how do I remove it? Apr 20 18:36:11 patch just overwrites existing files in the app and executes a postinst, no need to remove Apr 20 18:36:18 msd18222: check the entire thread, Pixi uses another processor, not compatible. Apr 20 18:36:22 less of a patch, more of a very bad fix Apr 20 18:36:24 mgschu: ah, ok, removing app then Apr 20 18:37:37 the pixi processor is a OMAP3430 Apr 20 18:38:08 there is a andriod kernel designed for that cpu Apr 20 18:38:17 its mainly a dev kernel but it exist Apr 20 18:38:44 msd18222: complain with the poster, compile the kernel :) Apr 20 18:38:47 u would need a 2 stage bootloader to do so Apr 20 18:38:56 to boot it up Apr 20 18:39:48 they used bootr I think Apr 20 18:42:22 hmm well imma try this Apr 20 18:42:52 check the script, it doesn't seem to work with my Plus, but apparently it works on Minuses Apr 20 18:46:38 i mean the kernel should work i dont see why it wont Apr 20 18:49:27 Qualcomm MSM7627, not TI OMAP3430, arm6 based, whereas the Pre is arm7 based Apr 20 18:54:00 hmm but still wouldnt the cpu driver be generic Apr 20 18:54:11 for all arm based processors Apr 20 18:55:48 maybe, but what about the graphics? several things are different Apr 20 18:56:30 grapics shouldnt be that different Apr 20 18:57:03 i mean that would mean extra time developing 2 drivers for both different drivers and a complete waste of time for palm dev Apr 20 18:57:32 yep, why do you think they didn't release 2.1 for pixies? Apr 20 18:57:45 officially Apr 20 18:57:55 why do you think the games look different on the Pixi than on the Pre? Apr 20 18:58:13 Why do you think there's no flashlight app for the Pre? Apr 20 18:58:27 because certain pieces of the architecture are different Apr 20 18:58:57 maybe cheaper for Palm, but in the end it became more expensive to support both, so, they had to drop one Apr 20 18:59:50 im having an issue downloading the bootr Apr 20 18:59:52 -.- Apr 20 19:01:02 from the pixi? Apr 20 19:01:40 im trying to download it using the pixi yes Apr 20 19:01:51 but each time i get an error while downloading the files Apr 20 19:02:11 what error? did you create the android folder and changed to there? Apr 20 19:02:16 so im downloadin it on the library pc and sending them to myself via email Apr 20 19:02:30 i mean i have no download it wont download it just gives me a dam yellow ! Apr 20 19:02:35 mgschu: ping? It didn't vibrate ... :( Apr 20 19:02:50 where did you get it from? Apr 20 19:03:04 precentral download Apr 20 19:03:14 gr Apr 20 19:03:23 but it installed the app? Apr 20 19:03:48 with Preware? yes Apr 20 19:04:00 and you can launch it? Apr 20 19:04:13 where did you get the link nuttybunny? Apr 20 19:04:15 yes, should it vibrate on launch? Apr 20 19:04:17 http://www.precentral.net/downloads/dummymaker Apr 20 19:04:20 yes, one pip Apr 20 19:04:25 yep, that one Apr 20 19:04:30 no, it didn't vibrate Apr 20 19:04:41 and I'm stuck at the hp logo... stupid android Apr 20 19:05:06 1.0.1? Apr 20 19:05:27 check if it downloads anything, and look at /media/internal/.developer/status.log Apr 20 19:05:39 xD nuttybunny wat device are u running Apr 20 19:05:53 Pre Plus Apr 20 19:05:57 should I uninstall first before upgrading? Apr 20 19:06:38 hmm Apr 20 19:07:25 ok "that" doesn't work anymore.. good Apr 20 19:07:52 what did we say about Voldemort? :P Apr 20 19:08:08 or "the one that should not be mentioned" Apr 20 19:09:10 mgschu: it worked fine for me. one vibrate at open, 3 at time of app creation. I now have SFR TV.. (now only if I could read it...) Apr 20 19:09:11 lol Apr 20 19:09:18 nuttybunny: hehe ok Apr 20 19:09:42 Did you delete all of the previous files? Apr 20 19:09:47 yep, and rebooted Apr 20 19:10:22 ok, rebooting mine to check Apr 20 19:10:54 (and installed the android dual boot thing after it didn't work, and ... damn... I guess I gotta fix my bootloader... Apr 20 19:10:57