**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 26 02:59:57 2011 Apr 26 03:19:00 NuttyBunny: OCing yet; Apr 26 03:23:47 NuttyBunny: awesome video :) Apr 26 03:48:44 grrr... anyone knows how to stop the stupid app catalog from downloading aaaaaaaaaaall my apps?? I wanna patch it!! :@ Apr 26 03:51:36 2.1? Apr 26 03:52:36 if so, go to the Software Manager -> App Menu.. pause all downloads :) Apr 26 03:53:34 it pauses them, and instants later one begins downloading Apr 26 03:54:26 hmm.. that didn't happen on my pre2.. weird Apr 26 03:54:51 And of course, about 2Gb of games/apps won't be good... I think I'll better let it download overnight and patch it in the morning Apr 26 03:56:40 patch what? the pre2? Apr 26 04:05:36 yep, the Pre2 :D Apr 26 08:44:11 hi, I am using sdk 3.0beta2, the inspector fails to work, anyone make it work? Apr 26 09:40:21 morning Apr 26 11:22:55 hello - is it possible to get a alpha copy of linphone? - i just installed webos 2.1 - webos internals image Apr 26 11:33:45 is someone there i could contact for an alpha release of linphone? Apr 26 11:37:43 maybe rwhitby Apr 26 11:40:56 i'll try -thx Apr 26 13:51:01 * NuttyBunny hops around Apr 26 14:39:20 nutty lets fix my pre Apr 26 14:43:27 Anyone here use Universe as their default browser? Apr 26 14:43:56 hi kill_dano, what's wrong with it? Apr 26 14:45:12 he has the "0 as default apps" problem Apr 26 14:45:27 I used it as default browser on the Plus, what happened? Apr 26 14:45:39 nothing Apr 26 14:45:42 :) Apr 26 14:46:04 I want to work to set it so in Just Type it launches Universe instead of the stock browser Apr 26 14:46:16 what type of crap story is that Apr 26 14:46:38 crap story is what? Apr 26 14:46:54 nevermind... Apr 26 14:47:05 the "0 as default apps"? :) Apr 26 14:47:34 heh.... may or may not have broken the speedlimit in this parking structure again Apr 26 14:48:07 backwards Apr 26 14:48:17 lol Apr 26 14:48:18 hehehe Apr 26 14:48:42 Well, your excuse is that your car doesn't show you the speed while in reverse... (or does it?) Apr 26 14:49:15 it does. tops out at 45 tho Apr 26 14:49:28 in reverse?? Apr 26 14:49:32 yup Apr 26 14:49:37 45? cool! :D Apr 26 14:49:40 mine doesn't Apr 26 14:49:48 awesome! what car? Apr 26 14:50:04 ze highlander of ze 03ness Apr 26 14:51:16 a highlander goes 45 in reverse? Apr 26 14:51:22 yes Apr 26 14:51:24 * PatrickC_Pre2 will tell his friend who has one :) Apr 26 14:51:48 your friend better be crazy to do it Apr 26 14:52:29 she won't go 45, but maybe 20-25 Apr 26 14:52:45 good Apr 26 14:52:47 and how did you find out he top speed in reverse? Apr 26 14:53:04 by flooring it? Apr 26 14:53:15 lol Apr 26 14:53:34 I don't have a car yet :/ so I can't do that *yet* :D Apr 26 14:53:50 I may have no depth perception out the rearof the car while parking, but if I'm moving I can make this car dance Apr 26 14:54:31 hehehe .. cool :D Apr 26 14:55:46 I chalk it up to the fact I am in a crazy light suv with a v6 and a hatred for all things slow Apr 26 14:57:20 oh, actually had abs actvate this morning. third time ever. stupid civic. Apr 26 15:03:09 lol Apr 26 16:11:01 so i think i need to figure out how to get metadoctor to work - i have ubuntu already i'm just not sure which doctor img to use for vzw pre+ 2.1 Apr 26 16:12:12 Oh man... so this is how Truck Drivers are born!!! http://www.myfrikicaos.com/2011/04/26/el-nacimiento-de-un-camionero/ Apr 26 16:13:13 kevets: you should use the meta-verizon-preplus-2.1.0 script Apr 26 16:15:22 kevets: are you on a virtual machine or installed ubuntu with tie wubi option? Apr 26 16:16:02 i installed ubuntu - works pretty well actually Apr 26 16:20:49 Excellent, then you should install the novacomd driver, and run the meta-verizon-preplus-2.1.0 script, it will do everything you need, it will even run the doctor for you :) Apr 26 16:22:11 * PatrickC_Pre2 wants to install ubuntu Apr 26 16:22:43 I told you, use a 8/16gb usb stick and install it there Apr 26 16:23:09 I only have 1 USB stick that big.. and its used for being a regular USB stick :) Apr 26 16:23:21 I need to buy a 32GB one Apr 26 16:23:45 * PatrickC_Pre2 should run it from a 512MB stick :D Apr 26 16:28:08 yeah i barely had enough room on my 128GB ssd to hold it along with win7 Apr 26 16:29:01 and the drivers installed alright i think i just need to figure out which doctor file to download bc i keep getting the wrong one im convinced. do i get the verizon 1.4.5 file? or another carrier's 2.1.0 file? Apr 26 16:29:27 just follow the wiki page Apr 26 16:35:13 nobody of you smart people has written a simple spline graphing utility for canvas? Apr 26 16:35:16 :-D Apr 26 16:37:52 yeah i think i have it down, i just don't know which to choose from here: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions Apr 26 16:38:06 i think i downloaded a GSM file before Apr 26 16:38:25 you don't have to download anything from there iirc Apr 26 16:38:35 ohhh Apr 26 16:38:47 does the script download it then? Apr 26 16:39:04 just run the script, it downloads everything, and does everything Apr 26 16:40:10 well then let me give that a try... i thought i needed to dl the file and then patch it with something that would allow it to install. rebooting. Apr 26 16:40:51 this is for the 2.1 meta-scripts, right? Apr 26 16:41:04 yea Apr 26 16:41:17 then yes, run the script and it does everything for you Apr 26 16:41:25 patching, downloading, running, etc Apr 26 16:44:15 When I said: "run the meta-verizon-preplus-2.1.0 script, it will do everything you need", wasn't that implied? Apr 26 16:45:47 NuttyBunny-work: reading comprehension is a lost art! :p Apr 26 16:45:55 NuttyBunny-work: how goes the Pre2 and Pixi projects? :3 Apr 26 16:46:50 Pre2: Running smooth as silk, I just forgot to backup my messages to the profile.. bah... Pixi... crawling over there :S Apr 26 16:48:57 Uff, crawling! Not good. At least it doesn't sound good Apr 26 16:50:54 nope, it doesn't sound good at all. I've tried running it at full speed, with ondemanctl, compcache enabled, disabled... I think it's swapping memory all over... I almost never see the load average go below 3, and that is really bad :S Apr 26 16:52:05 Eeeh. This is the one running Barleywine, or running 1.4.5? Apr 26 16:52:08 mmm... odd... the Plus is also on 3... and it's offline, no data, no 3g, no nothing :S Apr 26 16:52:23 SineOt: Barleywine Apr 26 16:52:37 let me see what my Pixi on 1.4.5 is rolling at right now Apr 26 16:53:33 huh, that's not right XD Apr 26 16:53:43 Govnah is just spitting N/A at me :I Apr 26 16:53:51 cool Apr 26 16:53:53 hahaha Apr 26 16:54:01 kevets: how did it go? Apr 26 16:54:34 yeah under ubuntu now using some built in chat client - well it's downloading, chugging along now Apr 26 16:54:46 getting a verizon 2.0.1 file Apr 26 16:54:55 Excellent :D Apr 26 16:55:23 SineOt: Pixi: 12, Pre Plus: 3.52, Pre 2: 3 ... stupid Pixi ... LOL Apr 26 16:56:06 NuttyBunny-work: hah, yeah... The chip in the Pixi isn't the best but it's hardly the worst Apr 26 16:56:12 if i could just get the citrix client installed i could probably do my work from ubuntu Apr 26 16:56:26 this is kinda not bad Apr 26 16:56:49 Ubuntu is okay, yeah. Still does some dumb stuff Apr 26 16:57:28 SineOt: You know what? The only thing the Pre and Pixi lack is memory :( Apr 26 16:57:32 OSX runs better on my netbook than Ubuntu did, and one of the two is officially supported, one of them isn't :I GUESS WHICH Apr 26 16:57:33 yeah my wifi card is not detected by default Apr 26 16:57:39 but most other stuff is alright Apr 26 16:57:55 i always liked osx Apr 26 16:57:57 NuttyBunny-work: for sure. At least CompCache makes the Pixi alright Apr 26 16:58:37 I think the biggest downside to Barleywine on the Pixi would be the lack of kernel sources, so unless Palm's stock kernel does CompCache like it did for the Pre+, then well... That'd suck. Really bad. Apr 26 17:00:01 weird, even affter a reboot Govnah is all "lol nupe gtfo" Apr 26 17:01:06 SineOt: 2.1 comes with compcache on all "legacy devices" ;) Apr 26 17:01:11 (including Pixi) Apr 26 17:01:42 well good :3 Apr 26 17:03:08 damn so this will give me the finishe doctor file and then i just boot up my phone in recovery mode and let it rip Apr 26 17:03:10 ? Apr 26 17:03:48 yep Apr 26 17:05:08 yuh. The only thing that isn't automated (to my knowledge, at least) is installing Flash Apr 26 17:05:23 ok just clicked next to start Apr 26 17:05:30 charging... blah blah Apr 26 17:09:57 12% here we go Apr 26 17:19:01 64% i think this is further than any previous attempts Apr 26 17:19:36 yay Apr 26 17:19:52 yeah i must have been using a bad image or something - will be interesting to see how this deals with teh signal here Apr 26 17:20:21 oh penguin logo lol Apr 26 17:20:42 reset complete osnp Apr 26 17:20:45 the doctor is finished? Apr 26 17:20:47 yay!! Apr 26 17:21:18 that is very good - now to see if it connects to data - my bb which i had reactivated gets 1x only out here at today's client Apr 26 17:21:34 so the penguin is the boot logo now? cool Apr 26 17:21:48 at least 1X is 1X and works, even if it's slow Apr 26 17:21:57 when you use a Meta-doctor, Tux becomes the bootlogo :) Apr 26 17:22:01 yeah, the default on the metadoctor is the webos internals logo Apr 26 17:22:04 I customized that :p Apr 26 17:22:15 awesome Apr 26 17:22:16 mine is rainbows and ponies~ @_@ Apr 26 17:22:20 heh Apr 26 17:22:22 rofl Apr 26 17:22:27 and here I was expecting an otter Apr 26 17:22:41 and the nice lil hp logo Apr 26 17:22:47 nice Apr 26 17:22:57 congratulations, your first proper meta doctor :D Apr 26 17:23:02 I don't feel like customizing mine... too lazy :p Apr 26 17:23:20 the girl at the vz store was fed up with my phone yesterday Apr 26 17:23:44 hehehe Apr 26 17:23:54 guess they can't really do a whole lot with these phones Apr 26 17:23:59 Loudergood: a pony that can go from zero to awesome in 10 seconds flat, or an otter that will lay around and do nothing all day? one of them sounds fast, the other one sounds like lazy Apr 26 17:24:03 everything she did i was like ok i already tried that Apr 26 17:25:25 kevets: The knowledge and training they gave to them is far less than you can learn on the forums or here :( Apr 26 17:25:48 yeah, but to be fair, it's kind of that way with any device Apr 26 17:26:06 unless they go out of their way to learn more on their own chances are pretty high they know next to nothing about it Apr 26 17:26:19 aside from how to do the basics like restart, reprogram, etc Apr 26 17:26:50 yeah they're sales jockeys, kind of like trying to find knowledgeable people at radio shack these days.. Apr 26 17:27:08 yea - okay cool so it actually loaded the phone to the desktop i am just not seein any data here - do i try activating it? Apr 26 17:27:15 webos 2.0 feels faster on here Apr 26 17:27:40 "Your phone could not establish a data connection (67)." WEAK Apr 26 17:27:43 you get good support with Android stuff, but really only because the techs probably have their own android set and have run into the same problems Apr 26 17:27:57 kevets: a verizon pre+? Apr 26 17:28:01 yes Apr 26 17:28:16 dial *228 and go through the reprograming, see if that helps Apr 26 17:29:15 * NuttyBunny-work crosses fingers Apr 26 17:31:08 weird touchtones not sending thing bugs me Apr 26 17:31:59 on speakerphone Apr 26 17:32:35 blah need to call customer support Apr 26 17:35:11 if they couldn't do much with it on 1.4.5, keep in mind they can do probably even less on 2.0 :/ Apr 26 17:37:51 yeah :/ Apr 26 17:42:19 okay got it activated and now im getting my EV icon back so i think data may even be working Apr 26 17:43:27 safe assumption, yeah :] Apr 26 17:43:42 yay Apr 26 17:44:42 now to see if i can sync something and not break anything with patches lol Apr 26 17:45:23 use the advanced patches Apr 26 17:45:43 yeah, they're awesome Apr 26 17:51:45 signal weak... no 1x on here boo Apr 26 17:51:46 they rock Apr 26 17:52:10 did you turn on data roaming? (does vzw have that?) Apr 26 17:53:17 i don't know - maybe its hidden in a menu somewhere? Apr 26 17:54:43 I don't have a 2.1 Vzw device in front of me, so I can't check Apr 26 17:54:59 should be in the preferences for the phone dialer Apr 26 17:55:00 ok just switched it to automatic / data roaming enabled Apr 26 18:01:30 might just have to go outside, lol. see if it finds data that way Apr 26 18:03:09 probably right on the borderline with that signal Apr 26 18:03:54 seems like it... had EV icon for long enough to load most of CNN.com at least... so it should work Apr 26 18:04:27 just ran quick tests... got Code 20 / Modem in the results Apr 26 18:04:34 that sounds bad Apr 26 18:05:50 oh, no signal. Apr 26 18:07:28 try ##DEBUG# Apr 26 18:08:41 just see battery voltage currently Apr 26 18:09:18 it takes second Apr 26 18:09:55 what, it just went into emergency mode Apr 26 18:09:59 thats odd Apr 26 18:17:47 can the default actions of Just Type be changed? Apr 26 18:22:13 yeah i pulled the battery and powered it back on - no more emergency mode Apr 26 18:22:21 and i can change the default search engine for JT Apr 26 18:23:06 I'm talking about patching JT so it launches Universe when you click something like "Google" and not the stock browser Apr 26 18:27:17 that would be like default applications wouldn't it? Apr 26 18:28:27 not really... when you click "Google" from JT, it launches the stock browser no matter what the default browser is Apr 26 18:28:40 http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2946787#post2946787 Apr 26 18:28:42 oh weird Apr 26 18:28:49 yeah... Apr 26 18:30:22 blah just type is doing this weird gray thing where its like i left a preferences window open somewhere Apr 26 18:30:24 can't click on anything Apr 26 18:31:19 a boot cycle fixed that for me Apr 26 18:31:26 it happens to me all the time :/ Apr 26 18:31:49 hey Apr 26 18:31:54 someone fix my pre Apr 26 18:32:03 nutty is busy working Apr 26 18:32:09 what's wrong with it? Apr 26 18:32:35 under default application, the data types are all grey'ed out and are "0" Apr 26 18:32:52 doctor is what I would do... Apr 26 18:33:03 the "file type" list is fine Apr 26 18:33:03 you've run all the emergency programs? Apr 26 18:33:06 but I'm not sure if that's the *only* option, there might be another way Apr 26 18:33:20 i did the emergency shiot Apr 26 18:33:39 the emergency mime table reset? Apr 26 18:33:45 i did that Apr 26 18:34:40 any other bright ideas? Apr 26 18:34:58 doctor Apr 26 18:35:06 Wrong answer! Apr 26 18:35:09 lol] Apr 26 18:35:16 no more doctors Apr 26 18:35:18 I quit Apr 26 18:35:46 I refuse to doctor every other week for stupit random issues Apr 26 18:35:57 every other week? Apr 26 18:36:06 what do you do to that poor phone? Apr 26 18:36:28 yeah, really Apr 26 18:37:51 and why would SMS convos be giving me the LOCK and saying Messages can no longer be sent or received in this conversation Apr 26 18:39:42 kevets: synergy issue, it gives me the finger sometimes as well :S Apr 26 18:39:52 the LOCK I meant ;) Apr 26 18:40:10 thats screwy maybe it will be happy if i can get some data Apr 26 19:08:31 how many times can u run a doctor on the palm pixi b4 u start having problems Apr 26 19:08:53 a billion trillion Apr 26 19:09:01 time a million Apr 26 19:09:07 times8 Apr 26 19:09:08 how many licks do you need to get to the center of a Tutsie Pop? Apr 26 19:09:14 one Apr 26 19:09:20 yeah, one Apr 26 19:09:23 put those molars to use Apr 26 19:09:36 those are bites ;) Apr 26 19:09:40 well im having issues with the messenger on it Apr 26 19:09:50 the original messenger? Apr 26 19:09:53 msd182: doctor again? Apr 26 19:09:53 i just doctored it again after brickin it xD Apr 26 19:09:57 those aren't bites, the tongue is touching! totally counts as a lick Apr 26 19:10:00 ya the orig messeger Apr 26 19:10:19 create a new doctor Apr 26 19:10:25 o.o Apr 26 19:10:46 or download a new one Apr 26 19:10:48 Loudergood: Create? why? Apr 26 19:10:51 i just did Apr 26 19:10:52 how'd you brick it? Apr 26 19:11:03 i tryed the pre andriod on the pixi xD Apr 26 19:11:11 and weren't you the one who was trying to code a rootkit on device Apr 26 19:11:19 duh Apr 26 19:11:29 xD nutty shhh Apr 26 19:11:33 and claimed that wirc ran under windows.... and many other things.... Apr 26 19:11:39 amd sine no i wasnt Apr 26 19:11:52 o.o wat are u talkin bout halfhalo Apr 26 19:12:26 no not me Apr 26 19:13:00 but ya i just got done with a doctoring and my messeger wont login Apr 26 19:13:19 but... you didn't brick it, you just had to boot it in recovery mode, log on to it, mount the boot partition, and fix the links :P Apr 26 19:13:21 you got your password correct? :I Apr 26 19:13:28 yahoo? gtalk? aim? Apr 26 19:13:33 ya password is corroct Apr 26 19:13:36 gtalk Apr 26 19:13:42 it just sits there and does nothing Apr 26 19:13:50 hrmm Apr 26 19:13:51 you suuuuuuuure it's correct Apr 26 19:14:01 and when i goto the buddy list screen and tell it to connect it goes right back to offline Apr 26 19:14:05 ya im sure man Apr 26 19:14:42 i honestly am starting to hate pixi Apr 26 19:15:06 version? 1.4.5? Apr 26 19:15:15 yep Apr 26 19:15:20 1.4.5 sucks ass Apr 26 19:16:02 have you toyed aroung with Greg's plugins? Apr 26 19:16:12 i have in the past yes Apr 26 19:16:20 ah, ok Apr 26 19:16:41 and your google account came by itself when you doctored? Apr 26 19:16:44 ya Apr 26 19:16:50 delete it Apr 26 19:16:59 i did Apr 26 19:17:04 and remade it and same shit Apr 26 19:17:05 delete it from contacts, mail, messaging, calendar Apr 26 19:17:09 mmm... Apr 26 19:17:37 delete your profile backup, do a full erase and login again? Apr 26 19:18:11 I feel it's some configuration on Palm's servers, it messed up my accounts too when I played with Greg's plugins Apr 26 19:18:21 kk Apr 26 19:18:32 im doing a full erase Apr 26 19:18:41 delete the profile backup first Apr 26 19:19:00 -.- Apr 26 19:19:32 i didnt think of the full erase method Apr 26 19:19:46 * PatrickC_Pre2 wishes webos could open/unzip .zip files... Apr 26 19:19:53 if you don't delete the backup, you'll get the account info that palm has stored, and you may end up with the same shit Apr 26 19:19:59 pat it can Apr 26 19:20:00 xD Apr 26 19:20:07 how? Apr 26 19:20:14 optware Apr 26 19:20:20 xD Apr 26 19:20:29 cool.. I'm gonna check that out.. Apr 26 19:20:31 mmmm..... optware..... Apr 26 19:20:42 -face palm- Apr 26 19:20:50 -face hp- Apr 26 19:20:59 lol Apr 26 19:21:39 fuck the reboots take ages Apr 26 19:22:39 ah fuck Apr 26 19:22:43 -.- Apr 26 19:22:47 in the Others -> Optware category, right? Apr 26 19:23:05 diddlysticks. optwarefind is down Apr 26 19:23:23 how to turn on the wifi in firstuse mode Apr 26 19:23:33 -.- Apr 26 19:23:37 you don't, afaik Apr 26 19:23:48 metadoctor can, but only if you knew you needed it well before hand Apr 26 19:24:02 no ## codes for it? Apr 26 19:24:05 on the pixi Apr 26 19:24:19 there we go, back up Apr 26 19:24:20 nupe Apr 26 19:24:31 cuz for the time being i dont have cell service Apr 26 19:24:32 http://optwarefind.nslu2-linux.org/packages?utf8=%E2%9C%93&Package%5BTarget%5D=cs08q1armel&Package%5BArchitecture%5D=Any&Package%5BSection%5D=Any&Package%5BPackage%5D=zip&commit=Search Apr 26 19:24:55 bleh Apr 26 19:25:16 msd182: why not? Apr 26 19:25:22 can I use stuff for POSIX systems? Apr 26 19:25:37 Sine i dont have 95 bucks right now xd Apr 26 19:25:48 PatrickC_Pre2: the apps in that link are made for the pre's arch. And yes... its a linux system Apr 26 19:25:54 cool Apr 26 19:26:27 damit now i cant login to the palm profile Apr 26 19:26:55 ill have to bypass it when i get home Apr 26 19:27:05 at this point, I think all there is to say is... "gg" Apr 26 19:27:05 halfhalo: I get a 404 error when trying to install with preware... Apr 26 19:28:02 wow... those entries are really out of date... lulz Apr 26 19:28:45 hrmm... I'll just unzip it on the PC later Apr 26 19:29:24 annndddd the script to update the entries in the DB is broken. good times... Apr 26 19:29:37 xD Apr 26 19:29:54 i hate webos ugh Apr 26 19:30:50 oh, hey, totally wrong script. Updating it now Apr 26 19:33:40 halfhalo: done? Apr 26 19:34:21 no... I completely forgot how this works... Apr 26 19:34:33 lol ok Apr 26 19:36:36 it has a very unique way of telling me when its done, namely by crashing Apr 26 19:37:45 lol Apr 26 20:02:05 is mode switcher a good thing to use to make sure data and stuff is on? Apr 26 20:02:12 i got the emergency mode thing again just now Apr 26 20:07:34 * ajay thinks mode switcher is HOT! Apr 26 20:09:06 how do you use it? do you have triggers set up and crap - sometimes i cant tell if its working Apr 26 20:10:43 how can I get the "palm" driver for winXP? /me drivers r st00pid ;^) Apr 26 20:13:19 why do people say to take out the battery to enter recovery mode? it seems to enter just fine w/ battery in? (or is this a recent change?) Apr 26 20:13:46 you do it to restart the phone (at least I do) Apr 26 20:14:27 damn this phone does not like to work without data Apr 26 20:14:44 kevets: mine has been working fine Apr 26 20:14:58 * Loudergood ran out of data this week Apr 26 20:15:06 halfhalo: you remove the battery to reboot? sounds like a lot of work to me! Apr 26 20:15:24 Loudergood: i'm experiencing information overload, so that sounds like a good thing.. :) Apr 26 20:15:31 im having trouble getting my phone to hold onto a data signal Apr 26 20:15:41 getting me weird issues with texting Apr 26 20:15:47 kevets, how low is your regular signal? Apr 26 20:16:05 like right now i have 2 bars and the EV icon is on actually Apr 26 20:16:22 it only seems to come up though if i have the EVDO Mode screen pulled up and leave it up Apr 26 20:18:23 kevets: I had that problem (among many others) when my partitions were full Apr 26 20:18:37 how can u tell if that happened Apr 26 20:18:45 i don't have much loaded on this thing Apr 26 20:19:11 kevets: if you haven't been playing around on the cmd-line this is unlikely to have happened, but you can check from there, df -h Apr 26 20:21:30 yay it let me add my exchange mailbox Apr 26 20:21:40 lets see if it works Apr 26 20:33:10 Found device: roadrunner-bootie Apr 26 20:33:15 Error: missing resource images/nova-installer-image-roadrunner.uImage" thoughts? Apr 26 20:33:29 when running java -jar devicetool.jar Apr 26 20:33:49 oh oops Apr 26 20:50:01 ajay: Why are you running the devicetool.jar file? :) Apr 26 20:50:14 NuttyBunny: yeah i realized after i don't need to, heh.. Apr 26 20:50:33 well, it would give you "developer access" to your phone Apr 26 20:50:38 NuttyBunny: i think i read you're the pixi2.0 guy? how's it goin? Apr 26 20:50:41 but on a Pre 2, you don't need it Apr 26 20:50:58 meh... lags a lot, SineOt ways that all Pixis do Apr 26 20:51:17 i wonder if i can un-bypass activation easily,heh.. Apr 26 20:51:46 NuttyBunny: i think that all pre/pre+s lag, so.. ;^) Apr 26 20:51:49 Exactly what are you doing and what do you want to do? :) Apr 26 20:53:06 NuttyBunny: I want my pre2 to show up as a modem/port in xp Apr 26 20:53:40 as a modem??? and how do you do that? messing with usb passthru?? Apr 26 20:54:04 i don't want to use it as a modem, i just want to access the phone's internal modem Apr 26 20:54:34 hay all Apr 26 20:54:45 well, I think it's with usbpassthru anyway Apr 26 20:54:47 hey Apr 26 20:56:05 hm, ok.. Apr 26 20:56:10 also trying to find the omap3630 driver Apr 26 20:57:11 when my pre2 was in recovery mode (to doctor) it kept coming up with "install device driver software for omap3630 device"... Apr 26 20:57:44 mmm... I'm new in the Pre2 world :S Apr 26 20:57:58 NuttyBunny: hopefully i'll be there soon! Apr 26 20:58:43 I still don 't get what you're trying to do with your Pre2 :) Apr 26 20:59:18 NuttyBunny: run uni cdma Apr 26 20:59:48 aaaah, VZW and want switch to whatever carrier you want? (Verizon) Apr 26 20:59:55 Sprint I meant Apr 26 21:00:14 but i don't know what i'm doing.. ;^) Apr 26 21:02:16 hehehe... I don't have a clue either, I only do GSM :) Apr 26 21:05:55 oh so after doing the 2.1 upgrade how do we sign in to our profiles? Apr 26 21:06:08 i just noticed i was never prompted for that Apr 26 21:06:30 er, you should have been prompted Apr 26 21:06:45 you used the scripts provided, right? and didn't build it with -wifi-only? Apr 26 21:06:51 run the gesture tutorial Apr 26 21:07:02 oh the gesture tutorial will let me sign in Apr 26 21:07:08 yes script that was provided Apr 26 21:07:11 yes Apr 26 21:07:21 yeah, but it should prompt for that when you activate the device Apr 26 21:07:54 ah crap im out of data reception watch me not be able to sign in now Apr 26 21:11:41 should have waited - now i'm there but cant do anything lol. ahh pre pre pre why do you do this to me Apr 26 21:11:55 anyone here know why the appcat access has to be decided on a newly-activated device only? Apr 26 21:14:14 ayay: ask Palm, it has been that way since the beginning of times Apr 26 21:14:41 kevets: are you in the login profile screen? Apr 26 21:14:55 yeah Apr 26 21:15:41 ##3386633# Apr 26 21:16:15 NuttyBunny: well i guess what i'm wondering is what they're looking at.. the first time that imei/esn, or the first time that sn was activated? is the Serial # of the phone on the comm board? probably not, so maybe that's not the tag they're using.. Apr 26 21:16:38 ajay: IMEI/device type combo Apr 26 21:17:19 kevets: press the little phone, tap on emergency call. delete the 911, and dial ##DEVMODE# Apr 26 21:17:39 oh good stuff didnt know that one Apr 26 21:20:28 power off / power on got me out of it for now Apr 26 21:20:36 still need to get back to data reception to do the rest Apr 26 21:21:23 according to a thread i found that might be why i keep getting the messaging lock problem on my sms convos Apr 26 21:23:55 mmm.. but don't you have wifi? Apr 26 21:25:42 anyone in here working on gps support for android? Apr 26 21:26:11 * ajay is curious to try android on the pre..! Apr 26 21:26:19 we still haven't cracked GPS support for verizon ;) Apr 26 21:27:11 Loudergood: man, even my vznav doesn't work (well) anymore! my phone sux.. ;^) Apr 26 21:27:34 I blame the carrier Apr 26 21:27:52 Loudergood: these are not the carriers you are looking for Apr 26 21:28:17 the gsm phones work just fine.. Apr 26 21:28:52 the Sprint CDMA ones work fine too :p Apr 26 21:28:57 aa crap, the novaterm binary i installed doesn't run.. grr.. Apr 26 21:28:58 blame is pretty squarely on Verizon Apr 26 21:29:13 well, and Palm, for letting Verizon do that in the first place Apr 26 21:29:19 yes Apr 26 21:29:27 nope no wifi atm :( Apr 26 21:29:36 SineOt: c'mon, if you were palm, and verizon came to you and said "Who's your daddy?", what would you say? Apr 26 21:30:13 kevets: Well, you won't go very far with no data access, either cell of wifi :( Apr 26 21:30:20 ajay: I'd punch them in the face and scream obscenities Apr 26 21:30:42 yeah that is the freakin key - maybe i can jam an antenna in here let me see... lol Apr 26 21:30:48 SineOt: you sir, are a shrewd businessman Apr 26 21:31:51 :) i've talked to a couple of friends though, and they don't like being punched in the face. fwiw. (from personal (recent) experience. no, not by my hand!) Apr 26 21:32:05 either that or just tell them they're a faceless corporation and can't really be anyones "daddy!" Apr 26 21:32:20 SineOt: you forget that corporations are people in this country Apr 26 21:32:20 well, generally, people don't like getting the whole "who's your daddy" line either. ;P Apr 26 21:32:29 haha Apr 26 21:32:46 I'm still waiting for the wholy owned subsidy = slavery debate to pop up Apr 26 21:32:46 it was a metaphor.. (I think that's the right word :) Apr 26 21:32:57 the face punch was a metaphor too! Apr 26 21:33:11 oh yeah.. i think.. :) Apr 26 21:33:26 a metaphor for saying "no" to carriers meddling with devices that in turn make YOUR company look bad Apr 26 21:36:47 NuttyBunny: my pixi: 22, 14, 5 :p Apr 26 21:37:33 lol Apr 26 21:37:36 NuttyBunny: so 2.1 getting 3 load averages isn't that bad Apr 26 21:37:46 so, it's normal? :) Apr 26 21:38:41 yeah :] Apr 26 21:40:31 oh, and NuttyBunny..! that's coming from completely idle in my bag, so take that as you may :p Apr 26 21:41:01 "screen off" is not idle Apr 26 21:41:12 webOS phones do many many things when the screen is off Apr 26 21:42:08 in fact, when you turn the screen off, they intentionally do a full generational garbage collection after a couple of seconds delay Apr 26 21:42:32 that sounds good Apr 26 21:42:35 and if you have facebook or google talk connected, it is continually updating profile photos Apr 26 21:42:50 okay, rather: screen off in my bag for a few hours Apr 26 21:43:11 SineOt: with the data turned off Apr 26 21:43:15 ? Apr 26 21:43:30 * ajay hates the constant fb/google sync'ing.. it's like ALL THE FRIGGIN TIME! Apr 26 21:43:44 nah, it's on. I'll see what the load averages are tomorrow morning Apr 26 21:43:46 act. just the google, and i have way less google contacts Apr 26 21:43:58 since I turn the screen off and data off for like 8-9 hours Apr 26 21:44:32 and if you're running 2.x, the activity manager attempts to ensure that all the syncs are done at the same time, to conserve radio power, so you would expect a higher load from that. Apr 26 21:44:55 it's a Pixi, I can only dream of running 2.x at this point..! Apr 26 21:50:39 darn the working terminals aren't showin up in my default install.. (pre2) burn Apr 26 21:52:20 that looks like an add-in card Apr 26 21:52:36 oh but the win7.. weird stuff.. Apr 26 21:59:21 rwhitby: what driver(s) do i need on windows to access the pre's modem? (or set it up for (virtual?) "comm" port access) Apr 26 21:59:32 no idea Apr 26 22:00:05 * rwhitby confines windows to virtual machines only Apr 26 22:00:09 heh.. Apr 26 22:01:02 * NuttyBunny does the same as rwhitby, windows should not be allowed direct hardware access.. too dangerous :) Apr 26 22:01:30 rwhitby: do you know anything about cdma? wondering if anything changed from the pre to pre2.. i think i heard comm board is the same.. Apr 26 22:01:52 * halfhalo waves hi from windows 7 Apr 26 22:01:57 NuttyBunny: heh Apr 26 22:03:04 * NuttyBunny still wonders how is it going for the people using the "Semi" scripts on windows... LOL Apr 26 22:03:04 * PatrickC_Pre2 waves hi from webOS Apr 26 22:04:20 ajay: comms booards are identical Apr 26 22:05:27 NuttyBunny: you talkin about the 2.1 ones? How come they're not working anyways? (haven't read the threads, but i thought cygwin's stuff was usually pretty good) Apr 26 22:05:44 gah windoze! I already installed those drivers, why are you looking for them again? sigh.. Apr 26 22:05:51 symlink issues Apr 26 22:06:21 oh.. that makes sense.. ;^) Apr 26 22:06:57 no-one bothered to diagnose it, so I disabled it completely. Apr 26 22:07:11 i feel like there was a way to do symlinks in os/2 (via add-on), surprised there's no solution in cygwin yet.. Apr 26 22:07:27 rwhitby: I could help diagnose it.. depending on what you need to do.. Apr 26 22:07:59 ajay: cygwin does symlinks, just not reliably it seems. the failures are random. Apr 26 22:08:06 ouch Apr 26 22:08:25 and result in an unbootable device Apr 26 22:08:32 oh! Apr 26 23:04:15 http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/04/rumor-new-hp-phone-coming-to-sprint-this-august-as-a-6-month-exclusive/ Apr 26 23:06:49 see, you know what I don't get? if it's got 32GB of onboard storage, why the hell do you need a microSD slot too? Apr 26 23:07:00 do you REALLY need to pack that much content onto a phone? Apr 26 23:07:00 summatusmentis, if that's the slab phone that pics showed up on precentral a few weeks back... Apr 26 23:07:13 RagingMind: that's what I'm hoping for! :o Apr 26 23:07:24 SineOt, quickly change content Apr 26 23:07:39 not so much capacity... Apr 26 23:07:49 oh... and YES people would use that much space Apr 26 23:08:12 SineOt: I'd love huge amounts of capacity in my phone Apr 26 23:08:20 I could sync my whole music collection Apr 26 23:08:56 RagingMind: that's what the article thinks it might be Apr 26 23:09:06 I don't know how I'd feel about a non-keyboard device Apr 26 23:09:10 but I could probably deal Apr 26 23:09:16 I just like my keyboard a lot Apr 26 23:09:38 SineOt, have you ever been stuck on the phone with someone while their 120GB music collection synced to their iPod? Apr 26 23:10:11 the thought of cost for an microSDXC or whatever card that had that much storage is insane :p Apr 26 23:10:18 and no Apr 26 23:10:25 summatusmentis, with a bigger screen it would be usable. I'd enabled the vkb on my pre+ with 2.1 if it didn't crash it would be really nifty Apr 26 23:10:32 quite pretty and usable Apr 26 23:10:42 because who in the world syncs that all in one shot unless they're doing it for the very, very first time? :p Apr 26 23:10:43 SineOt: I priced out 32GB microSD cards, ~$120 Apr 26 23:10:45 though for me I'd never actually get a phone without a hardware keyboard Apr 26 23:10:55 RagingMind: I tried the vkb on 1.4.5 and it was crashy Apr 26 23:11:18 summatusmentis: it was more the whole 120GB bit. You'd need like, a 64GB microSDXC card + the 32GB internal to even come close Apr 26 23:11:29 summatusmentis: that was also not Palm's creation ;o Apr 26 23:11:31 SineOt, I was an iPod Phone Advisor for a while... Apr 26 23:11:35 granted Apr 26 23:11:51 summatusmentis, the vkb on 1.4.5 is completely different Apr 26 23:12:08 how do I enable it on 2.1? Apr 26 23:12:09 the one in 2.x wasn't supposed to really be anything end users got to use/see anyways Apr 26 23:12:23 and I'm fairly sure was just a starting point for what became the touchpad keyboard Apr 26 23:12:33 summatusmentis, there's a patch to change a luna setting that enables it Apr 26 23:12:56 cool Apr 26 23:13:00 * summatusmentis loads preware Apr 26 23:13:05 RagingMind: well, even then I'd assume they had just restored the iPod and was syncing it all in one go, no? Apr 26 23:13:36 I don't know if it's available for 2.1 yet... but I applied the one from 2.0.1 and it works just find (the patch does, the VKB is buggy) Apr 26 23:13:51 yeah the keyboard is way buggy, like sub-alpha buggy Apr 26 23:13:52 SineOt, various circumstances Apr 26 23:14:41 I'm still a huge fan of the classic iPods, and for portable (non-streaming) music they are all I'll really consider Apr 26 23:14:54 I never bother putting music on my phone Apr 26 23:14:57 but even then I'd say that those weren't exactly common use scenarios Apr 26 23:16:13 r Apr 26 23:16:15 RagingMind: how'd you apply the 2.0.1 patch? Apr 26 23:16:23 I'm all for a thinner, simpler device if it means trading away a microSD slot Apr 26 23:16:24 I found the placeholder patch in preware Apr 26 23:16:33 summatusmentis, I downloaded it and tinkered with the ipk Apr 26 23:16:37 ah Apr 26 23:16:39 how do i figure out my hardware id rev version? Apr 26 23:16:43 download from the patch portal and apply it that way Apr 26 23:16:47 ajay: should be in device info Apr 26 23:16:51 or I pulled out the patch file... I don't recall anymore Apr 26 23:16:52 chances are, it's "A" Apr 26 23:16:53 i don't see it Apr 26 23:17:00 but the base patch file applies just fine Apr 26 23:17:03 try under the like, more? it's somewhere in there Apr 26 23:17:05 oh, i meant the number Apr 26 23:17:08 SineOt: where's the patch portal? Apr 26 23:17:25 maybe that patch link in the topic? idk ;3 Apr 26 23:17:31 heh, oh Apr 26 23:17:38 ajay, did you get the drivers working on windows? Apr 26 23:17:38 touche Apr 26 23:17:49 ajay: what do you mean by 'number' Apr 26 23:17:52 RagingMind: that's what i'm working on Apr 26 23:18:16 Device Info, More Info, has both the model number and the hardware version Apr 26 23:18:17 ajay, precentral forums there are drivers Apr 26 23:18:21 SineOt: it shows as "A" on like all devices, but it's actually like 0216, 0316.. Apr 26 23:18:45 RagingMind: I think i downloaded what you're speaking of, but it hasn't been updated for the pre2 Apr 26 23:18:53 at least, as far as i can tell Apr 26 23:19:01 and if you enable the dun/cdc_acm passthrough, then on the computer you get a USB serial port that goes right to the modem Apr 26 23:19:10 bah, the link is gone Apr 26 23:19:19 guess I'll just wait Apr 26 23:19:21 from there just use regular modem software Apr 26 23:19:28 hmm... pre2? Apr 26 23:19:38 well on linux it's a regular usb serial device Apr 26 23:19:49 so maybe you can force windows to use a generic usb serial driver on it? Apr 26 23:20:13 RagingMind: hmm.. yeah but i'm trying to use qpst/etc.. if there's similar sw for linux i'm all for it, i had the doze.. ;^) Apr 26 23:20:35 RagingMind: well there are 2 drivers required, cdc and generic serial. maybe for the latter, but not sure for cdc Apr 26 23:20:43 AH Apr 26 23:21:04 so you want the diag port for the modem and not the comm port? Apr 26 23:21:06 i think if i just figure out the hw rev id i can edit the drivers.. Apr 26 23:21:25 ajay, is this for gps? Apr 26 23:21:30 RagingMind: That's a good q, i honestly have not a good answer.. ;^) Apr 26 23:21:35 and more Apr 26 23:21:50 ajay, plug it into linux with the diag port enabled and then 'lsusb' Apr 26 23:21:59 I can do that.. Apr 26 23:22:02 pre2 right? Apr 26 23:22:06 that'll give you the device id an vendor id Apr 26 23:22:09 Loudergood, yup Apr 26 23:22:19 damn, that'll teach me for booting a windoze box.. ;^) Apr 26 23:22:20 brb Apr 26 23:22:30 * Loudergood has all those things close at hand Apr 26 23:22:38 ajay, if it's for GPS there's an easier way Apr 26 23:22:45 using PmModemUpdater Apr 26 23:24:45 I've got 0830:8043 Apr 26 23:24:57 what format is that number in? Apr 26 23:25:34 DEV:VEND Apr 26 23:26:18 the pre+ is 0830:8003 which should translate into 0316, i presume Apr 26 23:26:39 oh wait Apr 26 23:26:45 VEND:DEV then Apr 26 23:26:47 oops Apr 26 23:27:23 oh yeah, that would right wouldn't it Apr 26 23:27:31 my Pre+ is 0830:8002 (dev mode) Apr 26 23:27:57 ajay, the product/device ID changes with what mode the pre is in Apr 26 23:28:04 hmm.. that's weird. Apr 26 23:28:05 oh ok Apr 26 23:28:44 so.. what would be the easiest way to ask google (wolfram?) to convert that number for me? Apr 26 23:28:55 makes perfect sense to me, the computer thinks it's different hardware based on what is actually being exposed via usb Apr 26 23:29:16 ajay, sure... or your handy desktop calculator Apr 26 23:29:47 and I'm sure you could get the numbers from windows, but going into device manager and properties (that slipped my mind) Apr 26 23:30:43 RagingMind: good call.. damn windows says &rev=0316 Apr 26 23:30:44 crap Apr 26 23:30:51 err, no &rev_0316 Apr 26 23:32:09 any windows users out there confirm going to device manager->properties->details w/ your phone plugged in and letting me know Hardware Ids says? Apr 26 23:33:17 hang on Apr 26 23:33:28 how do i use that handy desktop calculator to verify what rev_id might be? it can't be the same.. (I think?) Apr 26 23:33:47 8003 is hex Apr 26 23:34:26 USB\VID_0830&PID_8042&REV_0316&MI_01 Apr 26 23:34:35 USB\VID_0830&PID_8042&MI_01 Apr 26 23:35:04 wait... what I was thinking doesn't make sense Apr 26 23:35:30 where on earth does 0316 come from? Apr 26 23:37:26 yeah maybe lsusb isn't giving me the hardware rev id after all.. but why does the pre2 also show 316.. or more importantly, if it is the same, why can't i get the driver installed.. (tried the qualcomm one just now too, no go) Apr 26 23:38:07 ajay, it's giving the device ID, I'm not sure what the 0316 is off hand :( Apr 26 23:38:30 ajay, because the Pre2 has a different device id Apr 26 23:38:43 so windows won't install the drivers for the Pre+ Apr 26 23:39:00 RagingMind: Hmm.. yes, maybe that's it.. i wonder if they're text-file editable or only someone who can edit drivers. Apr 26 23:39:08 did you search the inf file for 8002/3/whatever number? Apr 26 23:39:10 is there a tool like uni cdma on linux? Apr 26 23:39:44 lsusb -vv doesn't list 316 anywhere Apr 26 23:40:25 RagingMind: I think i found it! :) Apr 26 23:40:41 damn i don't want to edit files from windows though.. ;^) Apr 26 23:41:38 anyone know where Just Type stuff is stored? like, where would I look if I wanted to edit it? Apr 26 23:42:31 I don't know what &MI_00 in the .inf is tho.. Apr 26 23:42:42 start browsing in internalz ;) Apr 26 23:42:45 I'm wanting to patch it.. Apr 26 23:43:04 Loudergood :) I thought of that, but didn't know where to start Apr 26 23:43:19 PatrickC_Pre2: DB8 - look for it in Impostah Apr 26 23:43:27 ok, thanks Apr 26 23:44:51 i don't even see a ref to 8002 in the inf tho, weird that yours says that.. brb Apr 26 23:46:02 ajay, 8002 is just for developer mode, which is disabled in diag mode Apr 26 23:48:57 RagingMind: ah, got it :) Apr 26 23:49:21 crap need to come back to this.. (need to see if i can fight a parking ticket, and if i'm going to sell shares of the-company-formerly-known-as-VA Linux Apr 27 00:17:01 uh! looks like .inf editing may be working! Apr 27 00:18:33 i still have an "unknown" device showing up in windoze tho.. Apr 27 00:20:11 what are you trying to do? Apr 27 00:22:51 ajay, a couple things get exposed... as long as you have the Diag port you'll be okay Apr 27 00:24:02 cdma editin Apr 27 00:24:48 ajay, what all ya editing? Apr 27 00:26:30 the more the merrier.. unicdma came with the driver but it doesn't seem to just 'work' Apr 27 00:27:03 I'm just glad I have my gps working now Apr 27 00:27:16 RagingMind: what did you use for that? Apr 27 00:27:23 it takes a while... (5 to 10 minutes) but it's reliable Apr 27 00:27:46 I used PmModemUpdater to change a couple nvram values Apr 27 00:27:53 that were suggested in the thread Apr 27 00:27:58 ah ok Apr 27 00:28:31 it used to be that if I got a lot it was fast, but if I didn't get a lock... then I was SOL (and I went several weeks at a time with no lock) Apr 27 00:28:42 now... it's slow... but I seem to always get one Apr 27 00:29:29 i can usually get a lock everyday, but sometimes it's quick, sometimes it.. just doesn't, but a .. either reboot or i believe even a luna restart can get it to work.weird Apr 27 00:30:22 for what? Apr 27 00:30:48 PatrickC_Pre2, GPS... gotta get your connection under control ;) Apr 27 00:31:04 heh, I'm at Chick-Fil-A :) Apr 27 00:31:14 real men have a bouncer Apr 27 00:31:18 my GPS seems better on 2.1 Apr 27 00:31:38 * PatrickC_Pre2 doesn't even know what a bouncer is other then at clubs :p Apr 27 00:32:02 * PatrickC_Pre2 is googleing Apr 27 00:32:13 anybody used qpst here? Apr 27 00:33:17 halfhalo: what bouncer do you use? Apr 27 00:33:39 znc Apr 27 00:33:58 * PatrickC_Pre2 thinks its google time Apr 27 00:34:45 I need a server? Apr 27 00:35:19 man... Apr 27 00:36:49 i don't see my phone in qpst, but at least it recognizes the phone, which i can't get unicdma to do.. Apr 27 00:39:25 take that back.. still don't know what model to put into either Apr 27 00:40:04 RUMOR: New HP phone coming to Sprint this August as a 6-month exclusive @ http://www.webosroundup.com/2011/04/rumor-new-hp-phone-coming-to-sprint-this-august-as-a-6-month-exclusive/ Apr 27 00:42:11 so, webos 2.1 is cool but i think my modem is f'ed somehow Apr 27 00:42:41 why? Apr 27 00:42:47 didnt help with data stuff. kept failing on 1x & 3G Apr 27 00:42:55 have you tried going somewhere with better signal? Apr 27 00:42:59 replacement? Apr 27 00:43:26 yeah good signal - back on bb with 3G Apr 27 00:43:43 eh it was from craigslist they wont do it unless i insure it and spend $99 Apr 27 00:43:46 rofl Apr 27 00:44:02 lol Apr 27 00:44:30 is there still a way to get a pre 2 for no charge? Apr 27 00:44:44 i'm off contract Apr 27 00:44:52 next phone is still months away Apr 27 00:45:06 become a developer? Apr 27 00:45:27 they give you a phone? Apr 27 00:45:30 get a new comm board Apr 27 00:45:38 dev phone givaway Apr 27 00:45:40 pre2 Apr 27 00:45:45 wat Apr 27 00:45:56 lemme get a link for u Apr 27 00:46:08 good luck even hearing back from them! Apr 27 00:46:27 yeah that sounds too good to be true Apr 27 00:46:59 pre2 uses the same commboard as pre and pre+ Apr 27 00:47:02 I got one from them Apr 27 00:47:25 cool Apr 27 00:47:37 http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/02/mojo-and-enyo-two-great-opportunities/ Apr 27 00:47:43 and so did many devs Apr 27 00:47:57 oh damn just saw fcc touchpad filing - they have had new filings coming in all week Apr 27 00:48:04 legal finally got their s together Apr 27 00:48:09 lol Apr 27 00:48:38 go to that link :) Apr 27 00:49:41 so email devmarketing@palm.com and beg? Apr 27 00:49:58 i think i'm a future smartphone developer Apr 27 00:50:00 kevets: get a new radio board for cheap http://forums.precentral.net/marketplace/260541-palm-pre-parts-thread-9.html Apr 27 00:50:01 see if you are a "qualified" dev Apr 27 00:50:22 how many apps have you released PatrickC_Pre2 ? Apr 27 00:50:35 5 Apr 27 00:50:45 and 2 in the works Apr 27 00:50:55 oh there are qualifications? that might be a problem Apr 27 00:51:20 you might be able to get the $200 credit Apr 27 00:51:28 if i had a working phone i'd be inclined to put some leet scriptz together Apr 27 00:52:10 what's that lol Apr 27 00:52:12 what the heck do i do with a radio board Loudergood Apr 27 00:52:40 do a comms board swap Apr 27 00:52:56 is it something anyone can do? Apr 27 00:52:59 mmm.... comms boards... taaaasty.... Apr 27 00:53:08 halfhalo: lol Apr 27 00:53:15 kevets: yeah, kinda Apr 27 00:53:29 I haven't ventured down that path to get me a FrankenPre2 *yet* Apr 27 00:54:24 damn Apr 27 00:54:40 what? Apr 27 00:54:57 so you just pop the old one off and replace the radio board? Apr 27 00:55:08 lemme get you a link Apr 27 00:55:18 more complicated, but basically yes. Apr 27 00:55:28 i'm really waiting for the fcc filing on the world phone.. (chompin at that bit!) Apr 27 00:56:21 kevets: http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_2?wasRedirected=true Apr 27 00:56:24 damn Apr 27 00:56:29 i might be able to do that - lol Apr 27 00:56:36 can't get any worse i suppose Apr 27 00:59:41 i'll have to check that again when im on a faster connection, 3g only here lol Apr 27 01:00:10 kevets: i know people that only have 3g for everything! crazy if you ask me, but..! Apr 27 01:01:06 yeah it is crazy - at my mom's house the FIOS there is nuts Apr 27 01:02:49 one of my clients has a 30Mbit connection - that's pretty nice when I'm working there heh Apr 27 01:03:42 I need a 30Mbit connection to download all my ..... backups.. ;) Apr 27 01:04:23 yeah its crazy sometimes we'll saturate it with the SAN replication at that particular place Apr 27 01:04:34 but yeah FIOS is all about.. downloding backups lol Apr 27 01:04:46 going to 3G is harrd Apr 27 01:06:46 unicdma makes my computer sound funny Apr 27 01:18:08 nappy time.. Apr 27 01:19:04 hey rwhitby Apr 27 01:19:50 hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 27 02:59:58 2011