**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 08 02:59:58 2011 May 08 04:03:31 the frig May 08 04:13:04 has beer? May 08 04:13:59 errr May 08 04:14:01 i posted uh May 08 04:14:04 tried to May 08 04:14:06 to the wiki May 08 04:14:29 but i cant format for shit , heres the thing we can script theflash hookup -> http://pastebin.ca/2055154 May 08 04:14:38 *shrug* May 08 04:14:54 id like to see it all automated. May 08 04:15:46 Jasons ipkg maker is just so much better than anything ive used. May 08 04:27:32 I remember being able to "square'ify" the screen (use all the pixels on my pre/pixi's screen) in webos qi, but I cannot find that in preware. May 08 04:31:20 correct, the person who did that has not submitted it through the patch portal May 08 04:31:55 ah ok. so qi is needed May 08 04:32:01 thanks rwhitby May 08 04:33:17 whats good May 08 04:35:54 rwhitby answered a question I've had for a while :) May 08 04:44:33 sooo... whatever widk is doing its been doing for a while, which is good! I hope... May 08 04:48:46 * patrickc_sleepin doesn't use widk/pdk yet.. May 08 04:50:18 widk? May 08 04:50:30 the plugin kit? May 08 04:51:23 * halfhalo is using widk to cross compile something May 08 04:51:24 man.. the plus' screen is really scratched up.. May 08 04:51:50 * patrickc_sleepin is still learning to compile something.. May 08 04:52:01 use rubbing compound. May 08 04:52:36 night all May 08 04:52:54 we should work on http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/OpenVPN_for_Palm_Pre May 08 04:54:48 hmm May 08 04:54:57 I have to patch the app catalog now.. May 08 05:18:44 patrickc_sleepin: why did you start a thread to say that Pre Backup Utility isn't working, when the official thread already says that for it ? May 08 05:19:26 rwhitby: huh? May 08 05:19:46 you're not "patrick c" on Precentral? May 08 05:19:48 I don't remember starting any threads about pre backup utility May 08 05:20:00 I'm patrickc on Precentral May 08 05:20:49 ah, it's an old thread someone just revived. no worries. May 08 05:21:42 yeah, just saw it... May 08 05:23:30 Quick question: Is it safe to update to 1.4.5.1 with a whole bunch of patches and Uberkernel installed? May 08 05:25:09 I did May 08 05:25:16 well, I have F105 installed May 08 05:25:26 no problems? May 08 05:25:27 it all worked(works) fine May 08 05:25:37 hasn't it been somewhat safe for a while? May 08 05:25:38 cool, thanx May 08 05:25:39 that I have seen, no May 08 05:25:45 np May 08 05:25:54 probably, but I like to wait and see if there are any kinks May 08 05:26:14 psh, safe, what fun is that? :D May 08 05:26:25 lol May 08 05:27:14 I'm still rockin' my launch day Pre-, I dont wanna do anything to "upset" it until I can get another WebOS replacement phone May 08 05:27:42 patch problems won't break the hardware... May 08 05:27:56 and the doc can fix any software problems May 08 05:28:08 i know, just superstitious May 08 05:28:12 HebrewsHammer: is 1.4.5.1 out for sprint? May 08 05:28:23 I guess i'm about to find out May 08 05:29:01 check the "Updates" app May 08 05:29:15 * patrickc_sleepin uses 2.1 . . . so there is no 1.4.5.1 to me ;) May 08 05:29:31 nope, nvm then. lol May 08 05:29:49 my plus got the update May 08 05:30:58 I'm tempted but since I pretty happy with how my Pre- runs right now, i'll just stick it out until the Pre3 comes out (for the love of god, hopefully on Sprint) May 08 05:41:29 ugg.. I need to sleep.. lol May 08 08:37:42 Hi everybody, short question about patching the keybord-layout on 2.1, anybody there who can help? Thanks. May 08 08:38:42 thor968, .eu is just waking up....the US is asleep :D May 08 08:38:48 as I am. May 08 08:40:09 Me too, so I'll try it later again :-) May 08 11:45:40 hi all May 08 12:34:54 hey May 08 12:35:12 I plan on writing a patch that enables WiFi when the device is being charged May 08 12:35:20 to counter the "disable WiFi if screen is off" setting May 08 12:35:27 any directions where to look at? May 08 13:04:43 phoque_uni: mode switcher app can already do that and much more May 08 13:04:48 wow May 08 13:04:50 OK May 08 13:04:56 :-) May 08 13:05:19 phoque_uni: and a warning if you still want to make a patch the toggling of radio (bt/wifi) state a lot can cause the driver to crash May 08 13:05:43 its a bug in WebOS afaik and its also problem for some people with MS May 08 13:05:48 oh ok May 08 13:07:21 it also seems though that it might have an effect how many other settings are changed at the same time, so its possible to make a simple mode with MS that only changes wifi state regarding the charging state and it most likely works just fine May 08 13:09:15 ah, MS is by you May 08 13:09:20 I've read about it May 08 13:09:28 but forgot it too soon May 08 13:10:07 something about it sounded weird May 08 13:10:13 like audio/ringtone profiles May 08 13:10:26 morning all May 08 13:10:27 well its actually a multipurpose tool almost :) May 08 13:10:46 you can bend it to do quite much or then just a simple thing as you were after May 08 13:10:49 yeah May 08 13:10:55 I realised that too now May 08 13:10:55 :-) May 08 13:11:02 hey sconix :) May 08 13:11:18 and it really should scale for using only for one simple task as well May 08 13:11:21 phoque_uni: hey May 08 13:11:48 public release for webos 2.x is happening tomorrow May 08 13:11:53 at the moment only in testing feed May 08 13:12:12 for what? May 08 13:12:17 oh, MS? May 08 13:12:19 yes May 08 13:12:21 sconix, I've installed MS from Preware May 08 13:12:23 on my 2.1 May 08 13:12:27 weird May 08 13:12:34 I hope not the 1.x version May 08 13:12:41 am I currently bricking my phone? ;-) May 08 13:12:52 no it just does not work 100% in webox 2.x May 08 13:12:56 1.0.9 May 08 13:13:17 but you might still want to uninstall it and install the 2.1 verson tomorrow May 08 13:13:20 2.0.9 is the newest May 08 13:13:23 ok May 08 13:13:26 will uninstall May 08 13:13:35 tomorrow? May 08 13:13:36 :-( May 08 13:13:38 ;-) May 08 13:13:46 well from testing feed 2.0.9 is available now :) May 08 13:14:09 no changes will come for 2.1 so its fully ready but if you want to avoid enablinh testing feeds in preware :) May 08 13:14:26 hm May 08 13:14:32 will enabling them have other effects? May 08 13:14:41 nope May 08 13:14:51 I haven't done yet as the "this may brick your phone" warning was scaring me a bit May 08 13:14:55 except get you better apps ;) May 08 13:15:01 well you get suggested updates for beta versions then that are in the testing feed, of course you can disable them right after installing MS May 08 13:15:17 ah ok May 08 13:16:30 the wiki is still missing the usage section for MS but the integrated help system should get you started with simple mode, but it might happen that you want to use it for other stuff as well :) May 08 13:16:35 such as night mode etc :) May 08 13:16:55 * PatrickC_Pre2 used it for night mode :) May 08 13:17:11 I have to say... MS 1.0.9 was a bit hard to grasp May 08 13:17:33 anyways May 08 13:17:36 I know, more user friendly UI will come at some point but at least now the help system should help a bit May 08 13:18:05 hmm May 08 13:18:08 still only 1.0.9 May 08 13:18:24 did you add the armv7 testing feed? May 08 13:18:29 and then updated feeds May 08 13:18:30 no May 08 13:18:31 the all May 08 13:18:46 you need the armv7 since it comes small binary service May 08 13:18:51 +with May 08 13:18:55 ok May 08 13:19:41 but for you task to get started just setup default mode with only connection settings (remove other) and add one modifier mode with connection setting (wifi on) and with charger trigger May 08 13:19:45 and thats it May 08 13:20:12 ok May 08 13:20:15 will do May 08 13:20:16 then MS only controls the wifi state based on the charger state May 08 13:20:30 then yoyu can learn more when your hunger grows :) May 08 13:20:40 :-P May 08 13:20:51 I know that some people have even 20+ modes :) I have only 8 and mostly use only night mode May 08 13:20:51 can MS also do something against the dingdong dance? May 08 13:20:53 :) May 08 13:21:19 you mean the TS charger on/off dingdong? May 08 13:21:23 yeah May 08 13:21:40 there's a patch that hides the banner and the sound though May 08 13:21:53 I am not sure if MS will interfere with such patches May 08 13:21:57 I am adding support for charger sound setting rather soon May 08 13:22:07 it will require my advanced system prefs patches though May 08 13:22:18 for now you can silence system sounds to avoid the sound May 08 13:22:22 as my night mode does May 08 13:22:26 ok May 08 13:23:03 but the charger trigger will also require the advanced system prefs patches though May 08 13:23:48 the wiki tells about the patches and what they are needed for, for basic stuff they are not needed May 08 13:25:57 hmmm May 08 13:26:01 I can't add a charging trigger May 08 13:26:14 yeah as I told the patch is needed for that :) May 08 13:26:19 ah May 08 13:26:20 right May 08 13:26:23 sorry May 08 13:26:37 see the extensions from the app menu of MS May 08 13:27:40 just the framework? May 08 13:27:47 I am trying to do the charger and battery trigger without the need for patches but for now the patches are needed May 08 13:27:53 the framework is enough for charger trigger May 08 13:28:05 ok May 08 13:28:14 you, sir, are a big WebOS nerd May 08 13:28:20 this stuff goes so deeply into WebOS May 08 13:28:21 amazing May 08 13:29:08 I think I have only scratch the surface :) May 08 13:30:38 and I only created MS for my night mode initially, did not like to start clock app and silence the phone manually every night, but I guess MS grow to do quite a lot more thatn just that :) May 08 13:33:37 hmmm May 08 13:33:44 sorry I I missed that part May 08 13:33:57 but it seems I can only change the WiFi mode May 08 13:33:59 on/off May 08 13:34:09 but not "enable wifi when device is asleep" May 08 13:34:35 ah I missed that you wanted to control that May 08 13:34:46 the thing is... May 08 13:34:57 I like the "turn off wifi when screen is off" thing May 08 13:35:07 but I want to force wifi to be enabled when charging May 08 13:35:17 I guess I can recreate that using several modes May 08 13:35:23 the default with WiFi disabled May 08 13:35:34 a "when screen is activated: enable Wifi" modifier May 08 13:35:43 and another "when charging: enable Wifi" modifier May 08 13:35:45 right? May 08 13:35:49 yes May 08 13:35:55 there is the screen lock state trigger May 08 13:36:01 which should suite you May 08 13:36:06 since when screen is on its unlocked May 08 13:36:36 its possible to do it with one mode as well by setting the triggers settings correctly May 08 13:37:42 but as said the webos bug might raise its head when you want to control the wifi state often for example with the screen state May 08 13:40:58 yeas May 08 13:41:14 oo May 08 13:41:22 MS sounds better then before :) May 08 13:41:52 does MS add that crosshair icon to the top bar? May 08 13:42:03 well MS 2.x in pre2 specially is much better than the old one :) May 08 13:42:08 hehe May 08 13:42:16 what about in "legacy" devices? May 08 13:42:21 phoque_uni: it comes with the adv sys prefs patch, you can disable it with tweaks May 08 13:42:24 oh btw I'm on a Pre- ;-) May 08 13:42:34 I have heard it works well on pre-/+ as well May 08 13:43:13 but on pre2 the mode changes even with lot of settings just feel instant compared to 1sec on pre- :) May 08 13:43:29 hmm May 08 13:43:33 the screenstate mode works May 08 13:45:37 well I have to run now, but feel free to poke me later regarding MS if needed or post on the MS thread May 08 13:45:48 I can see now what you mean by "changing the settings around a lot" May 08 13:45:53 :-D May 08 13:45:57 how come :) May 08 13:46:00 yeah, thanks a lot already May 08 13:46:09 especially the screen state :-P May 08 13:47:02 rest of the settings specially in webos 2.x seem to work beautifully, sadly the radio (wifi/bt/3g and wallpaper) setting seem to have some weird problems May 08 13:47:28 anyway you are welcomed, now I have to run, bbl May 08 13:54:56 cya sconix May 08 14:08:43 Hi all, anybody there with knowledge about programming services with node.js? May 08 14:12:52 halfhalo: don't you know node? May 08 14:17:42 What is the correct way to define several services (not commands) in the services.json? May 08 14:17:43 My first thougt is not working (tells me that the service "de.company.app.read.service" can not be found in the package), the "id" must have the same name like the service: May 08 14:17:45 { May 08 14:17:46 "id": "de.company.app.service", May 08 14:17:48 "description": "App Services", May 08 14:17:49 "services": [ May 08 14:17:51 { May 08 14:17:52 "name": "de.company.app.read.service", May 08 14:17:54 "description": "App Read Service", May 08 14:17:56 "commands": [{....},{...}] May 08 14:17:57 }, May 08 14:17:58 aaaaa May 08 14:17:59 { May 08 14:18:00 "name": "de.company.app.write.service", May 08 14:18:02 "description": "App Write Service", May 08 14:18:03 "commands": [{....},] May 08 14:18:05 } May 08 14:18:05 do you know what nopaste is? May 08 14:18:06 ] May 08 14:18:08 } May 08 14:18:22 uups, sorry :-D May 08 14:19:42 just copy the BasicService example from the sdk May 08 14:21:21 Unfortunately this has only one service with one command. May 08 14:27:30 thor968: i have no idea how to do services, but have you tried "de.company.app.service.write" May 08 14:33:53 Makes no difference: palm-package: a service with id "com.company.app.service.read" is not in the package. May 08 14:43:28 The last comment was not correct, it was "com.company.app.service.write" that is not there. It seems that the services.json only takes the first defined service. May 08 16:49:21 hey there May 08 17:11:25 sconix, I think the charger trigger doesn't work May 08 18:26:20 phoque_uni: it should, is working for me and no one reported problems with, I hope you have restarted after installing the patch though May 08 19:22:03 is it just me, or is there excessive heat and battery drain with the new F104 & Govnah? May 08 19:39:00 ron001, how "new"? May 08 19:39:05 and what platform? May 08 19:41:21 today. on sprint pre- metadr 2.1 May 08 19:54:29 what are your limits? May 08 19:56:24 default May 08 20:06:50 thor968: service ids must be subdomains of the packageid May 08 20:13:08 * PatrickC_Pre2 is installing android :D May 08 20:13:12 again.. May 08 20:29:31 can you copy an entire folder with novacom? May 08 20:30:22 PatrickC_Pre2: tried piping trough tar? May 08 20:30:35 * PatrickC_Pre2 knows like no linux cmd's May 08 20:31:54 http://linux.die.net/man/1/tar :) May 08 20:32:35 http://compsoc.dur.ac.uk/~djw/tarpipe.html May 08 20:32:58 always forget to logout, haha.. sucks if anyone tries to talk to me! :) May 08 20:33:01 probably something like novaterm tar -cf - | tar x May 08 20:33:32 novaterm tar -cf - /directory | tar x May 08 20:36:00 thanks! May 08 20:40:57 stbuehler: Ohh I wonder if I could backup my phone through novaterm, that'd be hot! (usb mode always fails eventually, cuz mah phone sux..) May 08 20:41:50 anyone here done a frankenpre2 to Vz? May 08 20:42:34 hm, perhaps compression would speed it up May 08 20:42:49 if the usb link is the bottle neck May 08 20:49:59 sconix, nope, no reaction May 08 20:50:32 PatrickC_Pre2: did it actually work for you? it doesn't for me :) May 08 20:50:38 phoque_uni: no reaction to what? May 08 20:50:47 it didn't work for me either :) May 08 20:50:48 to putting the device on the TS May 08 20:50:54 ah May 08 20:51:04 oo too bad i missed all the hot MS discussion.. Mode Switcher is so awesome! I wonder if it can ever graduate to appcat.. May 08 20:51:07 * PatrickC_Pre2 is doing SHR install on the pre2 now :D May 08 20:51:18 ajay: probably not May 08 20:51:38 so.. if I disconnect, my phone is rebooting :P May 08 20:52:01 phoque_uni: thats odd, it should only the the adv sys prefs framework patch and work like a charm, you sure you have the sys prefs patch and not the menus framework (some has got confused so making sure) May 08 20:52:16 ajay: most likely no, but I am trying to get night mode app into ac :) May 08 20:52:57 sconix: neat! Mainly i ask because it'd be cool 1) for all to have access to this magic, and 2) to provide you with a revenue stream! May 08 20:53:13 Advanced System Menus - Framework May 08 20:53:18 Advanced System Behavior May 08 20:53:42 i want to update my adv sys menus - framework patch, but whatever update happened a month ago has some conflicts, gah.. ;^) May 08 20:53:44 but also two TS-related patches (no auto-answer and no charging banner) May 08 20:53:53 and behavior too.. May 08 20:53:54 phoque_uni: well theres your problem, you need Advanced System Prefs - Framework :) May 08 20:53:59 grrr May 08 20:54:00 ok May 08 20:54:01 :-) May 08 20:54:04 * PatrickC hopes this works :D May 08 20:54:08 sconix: what's night mode? May 08 20:54:12 PatrickC_Pre2: novacom run "file://bin/tar -cz /var/home/root" | tar -tvz May 08 20:54:18 that shows all files in /var/home/root May 08 20:54:31 ajay: there was couple features integrated that can be controlled with tweaks so its likely that you have some patch that is now provided by my patches installed May 08 20:54:33 im trying to back up an app May 08 20:54:59 ajay: well its basically mini app from MS i.e. charger+timeofday triggers + volume setting and exihibition mode etc :) May 08 20:54:59 for backup: novacom run "file://bin/tar -cz /var/home/root" > var-home-root-backup.tar.gz May 08 20:55:23 sconix: yeah that's what i figured.. i keep planning to do a device switch "soon" so i haven't bothered to figure it out. Oh but i'd so love to check out tweaks asap! ;^) May 08 20:55:34 many has actually requested this kind of "mini ms apps" that does only one thing -> easier to configure etc. May 08 20:55:53 i wonder if my pre would be as likely to die over novaterm as it does over usb mode.. actually even if it does that'd be better.. May 08 20:56:58 sconix: is it possible to do brightness unlinked-type stuff from within MS? that's all my (personal) 'night mode' has in it actually.. May 08 20:57:55 well you can control screen brightness and with tweaks you can set inverted screen brigtness limits to your likings with my behavior patch May 08 20:58:21 ahh, libtool, how I love you May 08 20:58:35 libtool: Version mismatch error. This is libtool 2.2.6 Debian-2.2.6a-4, but the May 08 20:58:38 libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from libtool 2.2.6b. May 08 20:58:41 libtool: You should recreate aclocal.m4 with macros from libtool 2.2.6 Debian-2.2.6a-4 May 08 20:58:44 libtool: and run autoconf again. May 08 20:59:39 anyone here running SHR dual-boot? May 08 20:59:47 sconix: i'm not sure if that means that would be possible from within MS? This is my suggestion for a feature for a possible appcat ver.. May 08 21:00:39 sconix, that did the trick May 08 21:00:40 :-P May 08 21:00:41 like, not have inverted screen bright all the time, but as part of a mode.. May 08 21:00:50 phoque_uni: :) May 08 21:01:01 * PatrickC <3 MS :) May 08 21:02:37 ajay: what I tried to say that imho by setting limits for the inverted kbd light you should get results that satisfy you (i.e. screen brightness corresponds to wanted keyboard lightness in every situation) and then by just changing screen brightness in mode basis May 08 21:03:07 but thats definitely something that is not possible for appcat version, the keyboard brightness stuff I mean May 08 21:03:26 this could take a while... :/ May 08 21:03:54 I hope that they keep opening up those apis in new WebOS versions, but lets see. I think maybe 1/3 of MS features use official apis at the moment May 08 21:04:40 I like the idea of the inverted brightness patches, but i would only use them when outside or at night, the rest of the time i want both scr+kbd dimmed. if inv bright is variably activatable from MS that'd be hot. May 08 21:05:07 "Backuping all your device..." May 08 21:06:16 and theres a lot to backup.. May 08 21:06:27 ajay: I see your point, at the moment its not possible though. I personally just haven't seen the need for optimizing kbd light, having max kbd brightness set to 50 is enough for me, since imho you need to keep keyboard open all the time to see it actually have effect on battery life so no harm if its brighters than needed May 08 21:07:20 i have the patch that keeps my kb at 100% brightness May 08 21:08:00 well my behavior patch also allows setting it to any fixed or between any inverted min/max value May 08 21:08:29 the above was mainly about adding control of kbd light into MS May 08 21:09:30 hmm.. o wonder how big my /media part is.. May 08 21:09:37 s/o/I/ May 08 21:09:39 PatrickC meant: hmm.. I wonder how big my /media part is.. May 08 21:09:47 sconix: i May 08 21:10:30 i'm not really equipped with the the tools to test how different situations affect battery life.. ;^) but setting a max on kbd brightness is an interesting idea! May 08 21:11:11 well thats what my behavioral patch does, it changes the kbd to be inverted from screen and you can set the min and max value May 08 21:11:17 ajay: there are patches to set the kb brightness to a fixed brightness (screen brightness setting doesn't affect it) May 08 21:11:39 and naturally when min and max are set to same you get fixed value :) May 08 21:12:38 is there a novaterm cmd to tell me how big a folder is? May 08 21:14:07 novacom run "file://usr/bin/du -hs /tmp" May 08 21:15:19 PatrickC: and don't forget to lookup the man pages of all commands you are going to execute :) so you don't do something like rm -rf / :) May 08 21:15:34 hehe May 08 21:15:41 i know about "rm" :) May 08 21:15:49 good for you :) May 08 21:16:39 that is so not true.. my /media is waaaaay more the 11.0k May 08 21:16:53 well, du doesn't cross mount points May 08 21:17:51 hm, it should by default May 08 21:18:06 is there a way to find the size of the entire folder? (im wondering how many GB is taken up in the entire /media folder.. cryptofs and all) May 08 21:18:37 that is what du (disk usage) should be doing May 08 21:18:54 patrickc@ubuntu:~$ novacom run "file://usr/bin/du -hs /media" May 08 21:18:54 11.0K /media May 08 21:18:54 2.8G /media May 08 21:19:52 the filesystems may be hidden when you selected the "use as usb disk" feature May 08 21:19:58 PatrickC: I like the idea of a max brightness more than a fixed.. May 08 21:20:11 its in recovery mode... that might be why.. lol May 08 21:20:26 ajay: ah ok May 08 21:21:31 well.. on another note.. the pre- is dual-booting just fine, lets see if the pre2 will like to dualboot :) May 08 21:23:22 ajay: the "backup" target in meta-doctor backs up the whole phone over novaterm using a streaming tar command May 08 21:23:45 hey rwhitby May 08 21:24:25 lol.. my /media backup that the SHR makefile made was just over 11GB :D May 08 21:26:16 rwhitby: is this new? that sounds hot! May 08 21:26:29 ajay: it's been there for probably a year May 08 21:27:11 neat! sounds a little bit faster than my scp method :) I love using unison too, but it's kludgey sometimes.. May 08 21:27:26 something in between.. rdiff-backup maybe? i'll have to explore.. May 08 21:27:42 rwhitby: did you try whether using tar -z is faster than zipping on the host? May 08 21:29:47 the usb filesystems are not hidden when you select "usb disk mode" May 08 21:29:59 as I corrupted mine a bit on accident by doing that May 08 21:30:54 iirc you cannot reenter the directories May 08 21:31:19 but if you already had a shell you still see the files May 08 21:31:38 well, I successfully cp'd a file onto it May 08 21:31:46 (cwd outside of /media/internal) May 08 21:32:09 hm May 08 21:32:10 which wasn't visible on the usb side May 08 21:32:18 * halfhalo makes popycorn while node builds for device May 08 21:32:28 and then, confused, I did some other things, ended up needing to chkdsk the volume May 08 21:33:07 as at one point, post reboot, the pre saw /DCIM and /DCIM/PALMsomethingorother and nothing else May 08 21:33:15 rwhitby: "make mount" doesn't work in metadoctor, i get "mount: mounting /dev/mapper/store-var on /tmp/var failed: Device or resource busy" (and similar for the other disks) May 08 21:33:56 (linux's vfat/fat driver must be a little stricter than windows's, as it could see most things just fine) May 08 21:34:21 I think the simultaneous writing to the directory entries made it inconsistent May 08 21:34:32 man that thing corrupts for nothin May 08 21:34:39 :D May 08 21:35:06 (that's actually not true, but it's.. annoying that it corrupts like everytime it's not "safely" removed) May 08 21:35:33 disablign write caching should help with that May 08 21:38:16 stbuehler: you need to memboot first May 08 21:38:57 (it boots with a recovery kernel and filesystem, so the real filesystems are not in use and mounted read-only for the backup May 08 21:40:59 phew.. i thought i lost all my files that was in my /media folder! but all that happened was the script didnt restore the tar.gz file that it made of /media May 08 21:41:09 so, restoring now :) May 08 21:44:01 bbl May 08 21:47:59 rwhitby: uhm. trying membooting right now, but i don't think the filesystems are mounted ro May 08 22:06:11 Good night :-) May 08 22:06:39 Just two questions before I go to bed: May 08 22:07:12 stbuehler: memboot then mount then backup May 08 22:07:35 Are there any news about the Linphone-port for webOS? The latest I tested was 0.1.8. May 08 22:08:04 rwhitby: i tried. but mount still failed in memboot... perhaps i did memboot wrong. i'll try again another time. gn8 :) May 08 22:10:05 Second: I want to replace the key mate in my Pre 2 with a German one, where can I look for patching webOS 2.1 that it will change the layout? May 08 23:38:29 sconix: you around? May 08 23:49:52 the screen on my wife's Pre just died. is there a way to dump the contacts database to the filesystem by using the command line? May 08 23:54:28 with an unresponsive / black screen, I can't enter the ##MONAD# hash code May 09 00:03:14 reading up on http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/PalmDatabase.db3_File now May 09 00:25:15 great, now I just need to install optware-bootstrap and quilt from WebOS Quick Install or the command line May 09 00:27:30 following the old instructions at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Setting_up_optware_feed#.2A_3._Get_the_ipkg-opt_package_from_the_Optware_package_feed: May 09 00:41:23 got it. I ran MvPre2Gmail to convert the PalmDatabase.db3 file to a CSV May 09 00:41:23 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-synergy-synchronization/207131-migrate-your-palm-pre-profile-contacts-google-contacts-free.html May 09 00:41:37 thanks everyone! May 09 01:27:39 aye May 09 01:28:42 pre1.5 to pre2.1 -- missing calendar, did a erase all data, calendar came back.. new issue, one accounts contacts wont come down the pipe.. is a good way to resolve this is to stop backup, eraseall data (again), and restart phone , relog in? May 09 01:45:08 *shrug* May 09 01:46:31 might as well try it. May 09 01:48:37 * oc80z kill backup/erase data/resets.. May 09 02:07:59 sweet. the apps are comming ride back. May 09 02:16:12 uh oh.... May 09 02:18:39 everythings stuck on 'installing' icon/status May 09 02:21:05 ive seen this before, btw.. May 09 02:25:47 long ass reboot. May 09 02:26:54 everything returned. i have (again) seen this wth webos2.1.. seems lke a file lock ssue May 09 02:27:45 (application wise) May 09 02:33:15 Is there a way to use Impostah to allow me to download 2.0 apps with my 2.1 Pre -? May 09 02:33:23 hmmph May 09 02:33:25 (without having to doctor using the new script) May 09 02:33:54 abyssul, from preware or app catalog? May 09 02:34:42 App catalog May 09 02:34:49 found a slight bug we could fix May 09 02:35:12 I used the early alpha script for Metadoctor which didn't allow 2.x app access May 09 02:35:32 Didn't know if the latest advances in Impostah could help me get that without doctoring May 09 02:35:36 after a backup off, reset, restore , the applied kernel in 2.1 does not report installed by preware. May 09 02:35:41 the applied kernel, uberkernel.. May 09 02:35:51 early alpha script? oohh May 09 02:36:10 did you update impostah to the latest one? May 09 02:36:14 Indeed May 09 02:36:43 Back when Metadoctoring required the .jar files manually May 09 02:36:45 yeah/ May 09 02:37:03 yeah...i didnt know it changed. May 09 02:37:18 Not too big of deal since I can use Impostah to download the 2.x free apps May 09 02:37:29 oh werd? May 09 02:37:32 If I know the appid May 09 02:39:10 hmm May 09 02:42:27 dunno ill take a look May 09 02:45:10 tbh, kinda new to the 2.0 stuff. May 09 02:45:19 and yeah i guess, 2.1 stuff. May 09 02:52:34 theres a 'device profile service override' May 09 02:52:37 dunno if that will help May 09 02:55:06 wow May 09 02:55:17 close slider to end calls is not for 2.1 :((( May 09 02:55:28 should we start a list of non-2.1 patches we want to port? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon May 09 02:59:58 2011