**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 09 02:59:58 2011
May 09 03:16:28 <oc80z> *shrug* thats all.
May 09 03:35:46 <ron001> if anyone was following my previous post about excessive heat and battery drain after updating Govnah & F104 kernel, I uninstalled and reinstalled and all is fine now.
May 09 03:36:27 <PatrickC_Pre2> well... I might not have gotten a dual-booting pre-plus today, but I fixed my pre2 that I borked
May 09 03:52:51 <PatrickC_Pre2> umm... Internalz Pro isn't downloading correctly for me..
May 09 03:54:29 <PatrickC_Pre2> nm.. turns out that Preware doesn't use the Just Type plugin that's in it correctly
May 09 03:55:36 <Abyssul> wIRC doesnt work for me
May 09 03:55:49 <Abyssul> Just sits and loads forever at the splash screen
May 09 03:58:28 <PatrickC_Pre2> what does it say?
May 09 03:58:32 <PatrickC_Pre2> "Loading Plugin"
May 09 03:58:49 <PatrickC_Pre2> and #wirc is a better place to have this chat :)
May 09 03:58:55 <halfhalo> lulz
May 09 04:00:15 <halfhalo> sounds like plugin be broken/not starting
May 09 04:00:42 <PatrickC_Pre2> I had the "Loading Plugin" problem, puffthemagic and I were working on it, and I ended up having to doctor to fix mine
May 09 04:01:04 <halfhalo> thats because you messed up your device something fierce
May 09 04:01:20 <PatrickC_Pre2> yeah
May 09 04:01:29 <PatrickC_Pre2> I messed it up again today :P
May 09 04:01:33 <PuffTheMagic> FAIL!
May 09 04:01:46 <PatrickC_Pre2> not wIRC this time :)
May 09 04:02:03 <halfhalo> inorit
May 09 04:02:08 <PatrickC_Pre2> I tried to put SHR on it... and borked it
May 09 04:02:14 * halfhalo broke widk, but that was broken beforehand
May 09 04:02:26 <PatrickC_Pre2> worked on it for like 3-4 hrs... and then doctored it
May 09 04:03:27 <PatrickC_Pre2> PuffTheMagic: I show 2 wIRC apps in preware
May 09 04:05:20 <PuffTheMagic> and?
May 09 04:05:40 <PatrickC_Pre2> just sayin.. didn't know if it was suppose to be like that
May 09 04:05:55 <PuffTheMagic> remove testing feed if you dont like that
May 09 04:06:20 <PatrickC_Pre2> ah.. I didn't know that wIRC was in the testing feeds
May 09 04:07:47 <PuffTheMagic> there are 2 wircs in the testing feed
May 09 04:08:44 <PatrickC_Pre2> ok
May 09 04:09:01 <PatrickC_Pre2> I'm showing one from the testing feed, and one from the regular feed
May 09 04:10:14 <halfhalo> so?
May 09 04:10:42 <PatrickC_Pre2> Puff said that there are 2 in the testing, I only show one
May 09 04:13:26 <PuffTheMagic> LOL
May 09 04:13:35 <halfhalo> inorit
May 09 04:13:36 <PuffTheMagic> there are 2 in testing feed
May 09 04:13:47 <PuffTheMagic> they have different package ids
May 09 04:13:51 <PuffTheMagic> and there is 1 in main feed
May 09 04:14:05 <PuffTheMagic> which has the same package id as one of the packages in testing feed
May 09 04:14:09 <PuffTheMagic> so you will only see 2
May 09 04:14:17 <PuffTheMagic> but the one in main feed has newer version
May 09 04:14:33 <PuffTheMagic> which is why preware shows 1 from main feed and 1 from testing
May 09 04:14:53 <PatrickC_Pre2> ah
May 09 04:28:33 <PatrickC_Pre2> night all
May 09 04:52:14 <dwc-> speaking of wirc, why's wirc always show up as updated, but with an old date
May 09 04:53:12 <Abyssul> wIRC doesnt give me any error. Just shows the splash scene
May 09 04:53:17 <Abyssul> Want a lumberjack log?
May 09 04:53:25 <dwc-> spinning ball on the 'connect' part?
May 09 04:53:54 <Abyssul> No, SPLASH screen. Where it shows the logo and flashes
May 09 04:54:01 <oil_pre> dwc-: because the date isn't being updated for some reason?
May 09 04:54:01 <Abyssul> before the app opens
May 09 04:54:11 <oil_pre> Abyssul: update to newest beta version
May 09 04:54:22 <Abyssul> Agh
May 09 04:54:27 <Abyssul> Too much work
May 09 04:54:28 <dwc-> oil: yea, I figured...
May 09 04:54:30 <oil_pre> afaik we fixed that
May 09 04:54:37 <halfhalo> mebe
May 09 04:54:55 <oil_pre> 0.3.8 or 9 fixed it
May 09 04:55:48 <Abyssul> I have 0.3.11
May 09 04:56:19 <oil_pre> oh well it shouldn't happen heh
May 09 04:56:30 <halfhalo> its a feature.
May 09 04:56:54 <halfhalo> a pretty crappy feature, but still
May 09 04:57:03 <oil_pre> rebooting will certainly make it usable, or kill it with jstop
May 09 04:57:19 <dwc-> every time I update wirc, I hope the wirc plugin works better
May 09 04:57:24 <Abyssul> No rebooting helps
May 09 04:58:59 <halfhalo> reboot harder
May 09 04:59:01 <Abyssul> The scene main could not be pushed because an exception occured
May 09 04:59:09 <Abyssul> mainassistant is no defined
May 09 05:03:17 <oil_pre> reinstall?
May 09 05:05:37 <oil_pre> I have seen the weird package thing from tar with too long of names
May 09 05:05:54 <oil_pre> when packaged on a certain os
May 09 05:06:23 <oil_pre> the name of the file isn't right when installed
May 09 05:07:03 <oil_pre> you can novacom in and fix the install
May 09 05:23:53 <Abyssul> reinstall is muy bueno
May 09 05:23:59 <Abyssul> I did that too before
May 09 05:24:33 <Abyssul> Sooo when does this app go catalog?
May 09 05:25:51 <oil_pre> when palm fixes things on their end?
May 09 05:28:29 <Abyssul-Pre> booyah
May 09 05:28:41 <Abyssul> Crap...
May 09 06:27:07 <phoque_uni> yay
May 09 06:27:14 <phoque_uni> my developer-device should arrive today
May 09 06:27:19 <phoque_uni> if ups.com is to believed
May 09 06:28:47 <ajay> Tomit12: no 3.5 or 4.0 is my guess :)
May 09 06:30:04 <Tomit12> lol
May 09 06:35:17 <swisstomcat> morning
May 09 06:54:32 <hape> moin swisstomcat
May 09 07:41:22 <swisstomcat> moin hape
May 09 07:43:06 <thor968> Morning all
May 09 09:57:53 <phoque_uni> boy oh boy
May 09 09:58:13 <phoque_uni> does anybody else with a 2.1 Pre- have those awefully slow (I guess) PDK-apps?
May 09 09:58:16 <phoque_uni> my camera, for example
May 09 10:56:21 <hape> phoque_uni: The camera app is a MOJO app AFAIK
May 09 11:00:23 <phoque_uni> oh, really?
May 09 11:00:29 <phoque_uni> I didn't think that would work
May 09 11:00:30 <phoque_uni> :-)
May 09 11:19:07 <phoque_uni> is it possible to enable the oldschook "palm" bootsplash in metadoctor?
May 09 11:19:26 <phoque_uni> I don't really like HP
May 09 11:19:34 <phoque_uni> and I really dislike the webosinternals penguin
May 09 11:19:35 <phoque_uni> :-)
May 09 11:38:54 <phoque_uni> ah I think I got it
May 09 12:51:46 <phoque_uni> is there a patch to make WebOS allow all voicemail numbers?
May 09 12:51:52 <phoque_uni> it seems to not like the one I have
May 09 13:54:29 <phoque_uni> is there a way to change the keyboard layout without wiping the phone aka metadoctor?
May 09 13:54:59 <RagingMind> if there is there will probably be a patch for it or instructions in the forms/wiki
May 09 13:55:15 <RagingMind> *forums
May 09 14:23:35 <phoque_uni> RagingMind, yup... non-permanent though
May 09 14:23:37 <phoque_uni> but it'll do
May 09 14:50:09 <mpingu> Hello
May 09 14:50:57 <PatrickC_Pre2> hey
May 09 19:47:47 <madnificent> does anyone have a download link for the preware ipk?  For some reason I can't find it
May 09 19:48:24 <oil> ipkg.preware.org/feeds/ something
May 09 19:54:55 <Abyssul> http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/armv7/org.webosinternals.preware_1.5.8_arm.ipk
May 09 20:28:46 <madnificent> thanks, got it :D
May 10 00:59:33 <Loudergood> my girlfriend's phone is acting strangely...she's on a call and the flash turned on..
May 10 00:59:50 <halfhalo> heh
May 10 01:10:14 <ka6sox-sick> mine would get a second call and activate the speakerfone...at FULL volume with no way to control it.
May 10 01:29:10 <Loudergood> she probably fat fingered the top bar
May 10 01:58:20 <oc80z> uh hey
May 10 01:58:42 <oc80z> is virtualbox 3.2 needed for the emu? Okay to upgrade to 4? (linux)
May 10 01:59:40 <oc80z> *shrug*
May 10 01:59:57 <Loudergood> well...there are bugs with 4 and creating the images
May 10 02:00:02 <Loudergood> still.
May 10 02:00:24 <oc80z> ahh,
May 10 02:00:28 <oc80z> thanks for the heads up.
May 10 02:01:18 <Loudergood> NuttyBunny found a way to get the kernel module for 3.x to compile on newer kernels, if you need to know
May 10 02:01:50 <Loudergood> https://zhyu.me/ubuntu/solution-for-vbox-on-2-6-38.html
May 10 02:04:04 <oc80z> Which kernel modules failed to load?
May 10 02:04:55 <oc80z> wow they are on dot 38!?
May 10 02:05:52 <oc80z> oh, or is this website title talkking about 2.6.38 host kernel
May 10 02:06:04 <Loudergood> yeah the host
May 10 02:06:07 <SineOt> The host kernel I think.
May 10 02:06:08 <oc80z> ;]
May 10 02:06:15 <Loudergood> so you can build the virtualbox 3.x kernel module
May 10 02:06:22 <oc80z> ok
May 10 02:19:16 <spiffyfitz> so i guess 2.x on pixi is out of the question now, despite what sprint says?
May 10 02:21:08 <Loudergood> if by sprint you mean zacky59
May 10 02:21:15 <spiffyfitz> yeahhhh
May 10 02:21:40 <spiffyfitz> what's the scoop with nuttybunny? didn't he get 2.x working?
May 10 02:22:48 <NuttyBunny> who's this nuttybunny guy?
May 10 02:23:00 <spiffyfitz> oh hi lol
May 10 02:24:05 <spiffyfitz> so did you get 2.x on your sprint pixi?
May 10 02:24:45 <NuttyBunny> yep, it's crawling there
May 10 02:25:16 <spiffyfitz> cool take your time
May 10 02:25:34 <spiffyfitz> i recently got my pixi, i'm just happy with my experience so far
May 10 02:25:41 <Loudergood> haha, tried it on a pixi plus?
May 10 02:25:49 <Loudergood> or do you not have one of those?
May 10 02:25:53 <spiffyfitz> except mine's verizon pixi plus, soooo it's probably a much different animal
May 10 02:27:03 <NuttyBunny> ah, sprint pixi... no, I put it on a pixi plus
May 10 02:27:22 <NuttyBunny> I don't have a cdma pixi
May 10 02:27:50 <spiffyfitz> would getting 2.0 running on the vzw be a total rewrite of what you've done so far?
May 10 02:28:00 <IGNTNUNLMTD> anyone here have a VZW Pre 2 and have early access?
May 10 02:29:00 <NuttyBunny> spiffyfitz: no idea, I think all webOs versions have both the cdma and gsm files, so, in theory it should work.
May 10 02:29:11 <NuttyBunny> but at least in gsm it doesn't receive or send SMS
May 10 02:29:17 <spiffyfitz> cool i'm looking forward to what you can do :)
May 10 02:38:27 <spiffyfitz> i actually ordered the touchstone and inductive back yesterday
May 10 02:38:57 <spiffyfitz> except later the day i dropped my pixi on rough gravel and it got a little scratch above the earpiece :( :( :( :(
May 10 02:41:18 <SineOt> At least it's not on the screen
May 10 02:41:36 <SineOt> I've got some pretty hard fingernails, and well.. :C my poor screen ;_;
May 10 02:42:13 <spiffyfitz> luckily a new pixi is like $40
May 10 02:42:36 <NuttyBunny> pluses, gsm, are quite expensive
May 10 02:43:27 <NuttyBunny> 2 Days for U2 in Mexico! :D
May 10 02:43:50 <spiffyfitz> i got my pixi+ verizon for $40 new on ebay :)
May 10 02:44:12 <SineOt> Yeah, the CDMA ones are cheap.
May 10 02:44:15 <SineOt> GSM not so much.
May 10 02:44:45 <NuttyBunny> Verizon :P
May 10 02:45:05 <spiffyfitz> i have the opportunity to get a new phone in september… tough choice between iphone/android/veer
May 10 02:45:19 <spiffyfitz> i have tasted all of them at this point
May 10 02:45:22 <NuttyBunny> september? add the Pre3 as well
May 10 02:45:54 <IGNTNUNLMTD> ^ this
May 10 02:46:09 <spiffyfitz> i REALLY loved my iphone when i had one… android is open and flexible, but extremely boring and clunky, webos has really slick multitasking but apps aren't so amazing
May 10 02:46:22 <NuttyBunny> yet
May 10 02:46:51 <spiffyfitz> i have a really tough time typing on android touchscreens, but iphone is fine
May 10 02:47:24 <SineOt> yeah the default Android virtual keyboard leaves a bit to be desired
May 10 02:47:27 <spiffyfitz> the clickyness of the pixi's keyboard is really accurate but not that fast
May 10 02:47:48 <SineOt> if webOS comes out with a slate device at least it'll have the webOS 3.0 virtual keyboard which from what I've seen is pretty nice
May 10 02:47:53 <spiffyfitz> swype on android isn't that great either
May 10 02:48:11 <NuttyBunny> we need talk to type
May 10 02:48:28 <scotter> how can you change the applications listed in the "dock" on the home screen?
May 10 02:48:43 <spiffyfitz> ehh, when i'm sitting in the break room i don't wanna be talking to my phone
May 10 02:48:50 <spiffyfitz> ugh DAMNIT the cat just barfed
May 10 02:49:30 <SineOt> the HTC keyboard is alright
May 10 02:50:05 <SineOt> the thing that the webOS one has going for it is that it seems like they're taking more hints from Apple than from anyone else which is a good thing, the iOS keyboard is killer
May 10 02:52:45 <NuttyBunny> scotter: you can "drag" from the launcher to the doc
May 10 02:52:48 <NuttyBunny> dock
May 10 02:54:17 <scotter> I tried that, but then it just dissapeared, and when I try to remove one from the dock, no matter where i drag it to it jumps right back
May 10 02:55:21 <scotter> pssh, nvm, i'm being an idiot
May 10 02:55:22 <scotter> thanks
May 10 02:55:49 <spatulator> good evening, anyone know how to get alpha linphone app for testing?
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 10 02:59:58 2011