**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 14 02:59:58 2011 May 14 03:04:12 its pretty dead in here May 14 03:46:26 anyone alive? May 14 04:28:35 anyone alive? May 14 04:28:48 Good evening. May 14 04:34:40 I think I borked my phone :( May 14 04:34:49 oh no :( May 14 04:35:32 6Ts? May 14 04:36:45 It wont sign into a profile :( May 14 04:39:05 smknutson, try impostah? May 14 04:39:13 device/version? May 14 04:39:48 Im stuck at first use app , 2.1.0, Sprint Pre Plus May 14 04:40:06 Ive tried 1.4.5 and it wont allow me to sign in or create a profile, and I have Ev connection May 14 04:41:49 just keeps saying Sign In Failed - We were unable to sign you in. May 14 04:43:12 But I know the modem works because I can reset and change my profile password May 14 04:50:04 :( May 14 04:53:39 Is there any way to completely nuke it and redoctor? maybe that will wake it up May 14 04:54:26 um, just doctor it May 14 04:54:49 I did. it still wont sign in May 14 04:55:01 I think HPalm is onto me May 14 04:55:04 skip first use May 14 04:55:09 instll impostah May 14 04:55:30 why would HPalm be onto you? May 14 04:55:37 Hmm. How would I skip first use? I havent taken that trip yet May 14 04:55:50 smknutson, https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/developing_on_an_unactivated_device.html May 14 04:55:54 make a meta-doctor May 14 04:56:11 or that :) May 14 04:56:16 lol May 14 04:56:19 take the easy way lol May 14 04:56:24 I just want my baby back May 14 04:56:33 PatrickC, he has a 2.1 sprint pre plus, he allready made a meta-doctor May 14 04:56:34 meta-doctors are easy... just time consuming May 14 04:57:13 thanks scoutcamper May 14 04:57:23 np May 14 04:57:25 not really.. as you only need to modify 1 doctor, if you already have the original 1.4.5 doctor downloaded.. it takes only a few minutes iirc May 14 04:58:13 my wife hates it when I tinker May 14 04:58:17 lol May 14 04:58:21 get a new wife May 14 04:58:23 lol May 14 04:58:23 :P May 14 04:58:41 easier said than done lol May 14 04:59:30 haha May 14 05:03:50 so if i was to edit my makefile to skip first use id unpack, edit then repack correct May 14 05:13:51 what do i need to do to sign in to my profile thru ompostah? May 14 05:14:20 u need impostah afaik May 14 05:14:58 shit May 14 05:15:14 error PAMS3101 "Invalid ROMToken build variant" May 14 05:15:25 looks like I broke my makefile May 14 05:17:14 a hunting we will go... May 14 05:19:47 I wish rod were here May 14 05:24:21 rod is here.. usually.. rwhitby? May 14 06:11:06 all my emails are black boxes and I dunno why :(. its happened to me once before while back I had to doctor to resolve it. anyone else face this before? May 14 06:13:28 I've had it on some emails May 14 06:13:30 never all May 14 06:14:33 ya they are on all of them from each account. super annoying May 14 10:35:56 I'm currently trying out the ipkg feed generator and I'm not sure whats wrong May 14 10:36:07 does Preware log errors it encounters while parsing the Packages.gz files? May 14 10:59:55 hmpf May 14 11:00:03 the feed doesn't throw any errors May 14 11:00:11 it did when I introduced some errors May 14 11:00:17 I give up for now May 14 12:12:15 so after that update to the app catalog Preware now gives the option to remove the App Catalog? May 14 12:12:45 I haven't actually tried it and have no desire to on my phone May 14 12:16:30 and my software manager shows an "Add Account" app with the option to remove it... I don't recall seeing it before, but I wasn't really paying attention May 14 12:17:06 and that one doesn't show in preware May 14 12:19:26 I have a US palmpre (p100eww) on a non-sprint network outside the US. Every now and then I get a "Network Message" notification that I have to dismiss.. May 14 12:19:35 Any idea how to go about disabling that? May 14 12:20:30 I think when it handshakes with a new tower.. my carrier sends some kind of "network message" May 14 12:20:52 never heard of that... but if it's coming from the network you would have to talk to your carrier May 14 12:21:02 I havent changed the MEID/ESN etc, and its officially registered with the original MEID May 14 12:21:18 I was hoping I could write a patch that would ignore it May 14 12:21:38 Just wanted to know how I could go about investigating it in the first place May 14 12:22:06 that may be possible, but I'm not the one to ask. heh May 14 12:29:03 I took a screencap.. this is what it looks like http://imgur.com/a/Cc98k May 14 12:29:10 maybe someone has seen it before May 14 13:11:39 im looking for linphone alpha app for testing, referred here from precentral forums, anyone know where I can find it? May 14 14:20:24 music indexer is borked... help May 14 14:34:37 restart your phone May 14 14:34:40 :-D May 14 14:34:47 that's what I do at least May 14 14:38:38 doesn't fix da problem May 14 14:38:56 hm May 14 14:49:59 kill_dano: I believe the doctor is the fix May 14 14:50:07 or not... May 14 20:23:21 hi anyone know where I can get access to linphone alpha? May 14 21:28:27 anyone with a sprint pre plus and 2.1.0 willing to help me out? May 14 21:48:38 anyone? May 14 21:52:30 sprint didnt have the pre plus so you wont find many people with one... unless its a frankenpre May 14 21:53:33 better off just asking for verizon pre plus users or generically pre plus users May 14 22:09:54 that's what I'm looking for May 14 22:13:05 smknutson: i personally have a super old original pre with 1.4 so i will be of no help May 14 22:14:04 yeah. my pre plus is partially corrupt May 14 22:39:46 enen: umm, Telcel? May 14 22:39:59 or you just never updated? May 14 22:40:34 smknutson: you got it working? May 14 22:40:58 PatrickC_Pre2: no its an original sprint pre May 14 22:41:16 i got my phone the week palm started selling the new line of phones May 14 22:41:19 then y not have at least 1.4.5 on it, or even 2.1 May 14 22:41:21 and the original pre will not run 2.0 May 14 22:41:27 yes it does May 14 22:41:34 not without forcing it May 14 22:41:37 it requires a meta-doctor, but it runs it fine May 14 22:41:38 yeah I did. but talking with rod some of my low level tokens are corrupt, so I can't do anything with a profile, even with impostah May 14 22:41:48 hi anyone know where I can get access to linphone alpha? May 14 22:41:56 i didnt see the point May 14 22:42:05 im waiting for a more powerful phone May 14 22:42:07 spatulator: in here, idk who gives it though May 14 22:42:16 ive heard that running 2.x on the old pre... it runs like crap May 14 22:42:21 enen: what do you mean, you done see the point May 14 22:42:29 mine runs amazing (at 1.1GHz) May 14 22:42:38 i cant overclock May 14 22:42:45 my battery barely lasts a day as it is May 14 22:42:45 why? May 14 22:42:58 because im not tied to a socket all day to charge my phone? May 14 22:43:08 new batteries are like $5 on Amazon May 14 22:43:15 i have a new battery May 14 22:43:19 seido May 14 22:43:25 still doesnt last more than 24 hours May 14 22:43:30 at base clock May 14 22:43:31 really? the extended life ones? May 14 22:43:45 yep May 14 22:43:51 1450mah i believe May 14 22:44:09 wow... mine last longer then that.. May 14 22:44:29 I think that 1.4.5 has some fixes in it that help battery life May 14 22:44:47 uberkernel is kinder than the other kernels on battery May 14 22:44:48 I run a Sprint Pre-, 2 Pre 2's, and a Vzw Pre+ May 14 22:45:07 F104 is nice to me May 14 22:45:19 i get poor reception at work May 14 22:45:28 constantly searching for signal May 14 22:45:38 no possibility to get a booster either May 14 22:45:47 ah May 14 22:45:59 makes sense May 14 22:46:24 im just waiting for the pre3 which should be out soon May 14 22:46:34 but if sprint does not offer it... i will be defecting to verizon May 14 22:46:38 sorry sprint but im sick of waiting May 14 22:48:04 http://m.precentral.net/sprint-get-pre-3-after-all-rumor-and-speculation May 14 22:48:23 PatrickC_Pre2: same was said about the pre+ and pre2 May 14 22:48:30 which never materialized May 14 22:48:33 ill believe it when i see it May 14 22:48:34 hehe May 14 22:48:37 well.. we can hope May 14 22:48:39 lol May 14 22:49:07 i personally dont want to pay nearly $600 for an unlocked phone May 14 22:49:10 sprint is on the android train May 14 22:49:11 i'd rather just switch providers May 14 22:49:19 saves the in marketing costs May 14 22:49:21 smknutson: really? their android selection sucks May 14 22:49:39 verizon and at&t both have better android phones than sprint May 14 22:49:46 they have the Evo, Evo Shift, Echo, etc. May 14 22:49:48 yeah it does, just like their entire portfolio May 14 22:49:50 they/sprint May 14 22:50:11 its unfortunate because i do like the simply everything plan May 14 22:50:22 the Echo looks cool.. almost wants to make me switch from webOS May 14 22:50:28 or even the Evo... May 14 22:50:51 i dont want to switch to android because they do not encourage real openness of the platform May 14 22:50:54 I have a $150 upgrade that is waiting, and I'm almost done waiting for a new Palm phone, sadly... May 14 22:51:14 yea same May 14 22:51:19 ive had this phone for nearly 2 years now May 14 22:51:33 been waiting this whole time for sprint to release a new webos phone May 14 22:51:38 enen: same here, but I will if I don't get any new Palm phones... cause I'm in a 2 yr contract, so switching to vzw isn't an optipn May 14 22:51:42 option* May 14 22:51:58 im also on a 2 year contract May 14 22:52:06 but my contract is about to be up pretty soon May 14 22:52:14 well.. I had my Pixi for about 1 yr, and then switched to a pre May 14 22:52:21 and if there are no pre3 options at that time on sprint... bye bye... im going to verizon May 14 22:52:23 lol May 14 22:52:25 my contract ends in Feb of nxt year May 14 22:52:41 i believe mine ends in august? May 14 22:52:53 i havent renewed my contract since the device came out in late july i believe of 2009 May 14 22:53:08 you got a launch day? May 14 22:53:41 i can check my contract May 14 22:53:48 but im fairly certain it was june/july of 2009 May 14 22:53:57 and i got the phone literally 2 days after it was released May 14 22:53:58 you got a launch day pre? May 14 22:54:01 ah May 14 22:54:11 so, 6/9/2009 May 14 22:54:12 still chugging along May 14 22:54:22 scratched and battered May 14 22:54:26 missing a power button May 14 22:54:28 but still works May 14 22:54:28 haha May 14 22:54:35 I've had my pre (that I got a few months ago) replaced like 3 times already May 14 22:54:41 you have the TEP? May 14 22:55:04 yea May 14 22:55:13 cant even use it now May 14 22:55:21 they'd just make me switch to android or something May 14 22:55:49 not with me May 14 22:55:54 they give me referbs May 14 22:56:02 ive never had to replace my phone May 14 22:56:14 ask for a referb at your local sprint store.. May 14 22:56:16 i didnt technically have to replace the battery i was just getting annoyed with the short battery life so i upgraded May 14 22:56:37 I replaced my Pixi 6 times in 5 months haha May 14 22:56:39 i would but ill just wait... my phone still works May 14 22:56:45 i just need a pen to hit the power button May 14 22:56:49 haha May 14 22:56:50 Good evening fellas' May 14 22:56:58 hey May 14 22:57:06 the scratches dont ruin the view too much May 14 22:57:12 surprised this thing still functions May 14 22:57:18 lol May 14 22:57:21 its been dropped thousands of times on concrete from 3+ feet May 14 22:57:25 fully submerged several times May 14 22:57:26 etc May 14 22:57:47 wow... pic? lol May 14 22:57:55 I want to see this beast :) May 14 22:57:56 i should take one May 14 22:58:03 haha problem is May 14 22:58:10 how do i take a pic of my phone when i use my phone as a camera May 14 22:58:16 fancy with mirrors May 14 22:58:27 lol May 14 22:58:58 hah i just looked at it too.. it really isnt in that visibly terrible shape May 14 22:59:11 you can only see a couple scratches on it and some chips on the corners May 14 22:59:16 the pixi is really tough.. like, it can be cooked in the oven :( May 14 22:59:18 :)* May 14 22:59:19 http://www.precentral.net/pixi-survives-45-minutes-450-degrees-makes-sissy-name May 14 22:59:21 and the center button is starting to chip May 14 22:59:48 haha May 14 23:00:16 I wonder if the pre would survive :D May 14 23:00:49 anythings possible May 14 23:00:55 this thing has been severly beaten May 14 23:00:59 hmm.. wanna try :P May 14 23:01:08 sure, when i get a pre3 May 14 23:01:09 haha May 14 23:01:13 lol May 14 23:01:33 * PatrickC wouldn't do it.. he loves all his pre's too much <3 May 14 23:01:37 hopefully i dont have to buy new touchstones for the pre3 May 14 23:01:54 I have 4 different pre phones, and I'm not gonna do it to any of them.. lol May 14 23:02:31 well.. I have to go.. cya May 14 23:02:37 I'll be on later May 14 23:02:56 cya May 14 23:03:06 upgrade to 1.4.5 :) May 14 23:03:13 i have 1.4.5 May 14 23:03:30 its updated to the latest that is directly supported by sprint May 14 23:03:46 ah May 14 23:03:50 i need to doctor though May 14 23:04:06 and HP was having issues fixing my account on their website May 14 23:04:17 i'd reset my password and then go to login with the new pass and it would magically not work May 14 23:04:24 they couldnt figure it out and havent contacted me back May 14 23:04:33 i suppose i should just sign up for a new account with a different email May 14 23:04:40 well, 2.1 is officially supported by us ;) May 14 23:05:01 if i didnt think the phone would only last a few hours at 1.1ghz i'd give it a shot May 14 23:06:23 well, try it for 1-2 days, see how it is May 14 23:06:55 only problem is i use my phone for business daily so theres no way i can risk not having a phone for more than a day May 14 23:07:14 hrmm... May 14 23:07:26 what about on the weekends? like today? May 14 23:07:27 i'd have to do it on a saturday night at like 2 in the morning or something and im usually not in any sort of shape to be doctoring my phone May 14 23:07:30 haha May 14 23:07:30 anyone know where I can get my hands on the linphone ipk? Id like to help w/ alpha testing on pre2 (and get to use the only sip client available out there w/ my sipgate account =) May 14 23:07:38 someone help... my music does not show up, im on 2.1 May 14 23:09:33 kill_dano: usually that requires a doctor to fix, if I'm not mistaken May 14 23:09:47 holy crap theres a seidio 2600mAh batter now May 14 23:09:48 enen: you don't need to doctor if something goes wrong :) May 14 23:09:55 what will prevent it from happening again? May 14 23:09:57 its been out May 14 23:10:05 kill_dano: not sure May 14 23:10:07 i havent looked at batteries in awhile May 14 23:10:27 cause it happened before and I dr'd May 14 23:10:27 it would ruin the touchstone unfortunately May 14 23:11:04 the 2600mAh? yeah, it takes a little configuring with the ts back :) May 14 23:11:36 i could probably fit the ts guts to it but it would require some effort May 14 23:11:56 * enen shakes fist at sprint/hp May 14 23:12:04 if they'd just hurry up and release the new phone i wouldnt care May 14 23:12:23 haha May 14 23:12:58 well.. I'm really off now lol May 14 23:12:59 bye May 14 23:13:03 lol cya May 14 23:39:20 Just thought I'd let someone know that Mode Switcher won't install on my Pre Plus on Verizon running webOS 2.1 if I use Preware...it worked fine with webOS Quick Install 4.04 May 14 23:40:25 JetUni: I believe you have to use the "Legacy" version.. May 14 23:41:37 i have webOS 2.1 tho...it gives me the service error thing May 14 23:43:59 did you try the "Legacy" version? May 14 23:55:54 no, it didn't show up in Preware May 14 23:57:51 hmm May 14 23:57:57 sconix: ping? May 14 23:58:41 * PatrickC is happy to have 2.1 back... ahhh May 15 00:00:07 JetUni: see wiki May 15 00:00:23 there are instructions to get over the service error message May 15 00:00:32 hey sconix May 15 00:02:11 sconix: you may want to add to te Wiki the fact that Preware doesn't install for some people May 15 00:02:27 JetUni: there is no reason why it would not May 15 00:03:47 it installed fine for me May 15 00:04:00 wouldnt it be the same reason that Tweaks wouldnt? May 15 00:04:12 Tweaks installs just fine with preware May 15 00:04:25 the fix has been in the tweaks and MS package quite long time now May 15 00:04:45 but there are still other bugs in the service installation it seems May 15 00:05:23 but you can not say that wosqi works and preware does not, there is no reason why either of the would work and another one would not, its just plain luck which ever happens to work May 15 00:05:38 its buggy installation system that hp needs to fix for next release May 15 00:06:03 wierd, because every time I install MS or Tweaks thru Preware, they fail to work correctly until I use WOQI May 15 00:06:56 but there are people for who the WOQI does not work but preware works, and also people for which neither works, only the manual installation May 15 00:07:27 huh, alright...thx! May 15 00:17:44 ok, newly doctored Pre-.. won't exit luna May 15 00:17:52 anyone know where I can get access to linphone alpha? May 15 00:18:23 rwhitby: who does the linphone alpha? May 15 00:18:53 nevermind the luna, it finally booted May 15 00:20:39 does preware have a search function? I cant seem to find one May 15 00:21:00 at the main screen, just type May 15 00:21:20 or when looking at any lists of apps/patches/etc. just type May 15 00:27:53 just type... brilliant! May 15 00:34:20 yep haha May 15 00:35:01 :) May 15 00:40:14 oil: who put actual Just Type integration in Preware? May 15 00:40:25 i did May 15 00:40:36 it doesn't work for me May 15 00:40:46 oh, you mean into 2.0 os? May 15 00:40:49 yeah, that doesnt work yet May 15 00:41:00 ok, I was just wondering :) May 15 00:41:12 and tibfib did the part of that that works May 15 00:41:12 I hope it works soon May 15 00:42:00 ok May 15 01:44:27 anyone know where I can get access to linphone alpha? Im fairly sure its the only sip client for webos, Id like to test it out May 15 01:45:39 read the Precentral thread? :P May 15 02:01:57 nice I finally found it on a russian webos forum **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 15 02:59:58 2011