**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 25 02:59:57 2011 May 25 07:06:58 re May 25 07:11:16 my preware still gots a black eye.. :( May 25 07:15:28 rwhitby: you around? May 25 08:13:11 well i guess a profile logout comes before a doctor.. eh.. night! May 25 09:32:31 what conditions does a Packages.gz file to meet in order for Preware to be able to update the apps inside? May 25 09:34:15 phoque: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Packaging_Standards May 25 09:38:20 rwhitby, thanks! May 25 09:47:05 If you are creating a feed, make sure you have notifications turned on for that page so you see any changes. May 25 09:47:24 We attempt to keep it backwards compatible, but do not guarantee it. May 25 11:50:33 rwhitby, wich field from the Packages file determines if an app listed there is an update? LastUpdated? May 25 12:16:52 ah, I see May 25 12:17:06 Source: { "Type": "Application" } is required May 25 12:19:29 the IpkFeedGenerator.jar tool appears to be generating that from the package.ipk/DEBIAN/control file May 25 12:19:45 is there a way to modify that file during palm-package? May 25 12:49:56 I'm fixing that with grep and sed now May 25 12:50:02 and re-packing the Packages.gz with gzip May 25 12:50:08 kind of weird though May 25 14:03:05 Hello May 25 14:03:19 can anyone tell me where emails are stored on the Pre? May 25 14:03:27 I want to see how much room they are taking up May 25 15:18:32 anyone been able to recover from the 'no 3g' modem problem? ive been going around in circles trying to get something to stick. May 25 15:19:43 everything else works it seems at least on the metadoctor 2.1.0 (pre +). any other 'regular' verizon pre + doctor fails part way through May 25 15:26:23 does anyone have a solution for bookmark sync/import? May 25 15:26:39 maybe they'll add it in 2.3 or 3.0? May 25 15:30:56 twoboxen: like google bookmarks? May 25 15:31:10 kevets: I would have thought that a doctor would fix that May 25 15:39:04 PatrickC, yes for example... i can convert formats if I need to May 25 15:39:39 Universe Web Browser supports Google Bookmarks May 25 15:40:24 Even now that they're not backed by google docs? May 25 15:40:48 I know that it supports Google Bookmarks, iirc May 25 15:41:02 dkirker1: ? May 25 15:42:33 I'll have to check it out May 25 15:43:07 bummer... not free? Bookmark import is pretty core. I will probably wait until 2.3 to see if anything changes (I don't know 2.3 feature list) May 25 15:46:31 NuttyBunny!!!! May 25 15:46:54 hey, whassup? May 25 15:47:20 nothin much May 25 15:51:26 twoboxen: its well worth the $2.99 May 25 15:55:08 http://onion.com/mHzwfG <--- run for your lives! May 25 15:57:15 20 says fox news runs with it May 25 15:59:08 oh, and the rapture is now in October iirc :P May 25 15:59:24 * halfhalo blames fox news May 25 16:00:03 lol May 25 16:00:21 bbl.. time to mow the lawn and get the car cleaned out.. May 25 16:13:40 say, would anyone in here happen to know how to backup/restore contacts on a phone that hasn't even been activated yet? May 25 17:05:14 hm. i think i'll have luck playing around with the .db3 files in /var/luna/data/dbdata/. May 25 17:05:24 i just have to see if they change between different stock phones. May 25 17:10:10 zandi: there's more info than just the contacts in the .db3 files, I don't think they're stored by themselves in a single file May 25 17:10:52 yeah, i've noticed that :/ May 25 17:11:09 i'll see if they're the same across different phones. hopefully they are. May 25 17:11:45 the PalmDatabase.db3 contains also information about the palm profile, so, they won't be the same May 25 17:12:29 well, i'm hoping they will be if the phone's completely virgin. unactivated and everything May 25 17:13:17 or, if they're the same after a firmware flash, i'll be fine May 25 18:18:06 whats good. May 25 18:18:45 fuckin' around with PalmDatabse.db3. you? May 25 18:34:37 always hacking on shit related to here. May 25 18:35:14 anything interesting? May 25 18:35:45 ...well im on some bootloader stuffs now. May 25 18:36:00 basically ota kernel/ssytem upgrades May 25 18:36:01 on arm May 25 18:36:11 so , redboot and uboot May 25 18:36:25 (not grub) just doing some planning n sheeeeet. May 25 18:37:06 heh.. May 25 18:37:09 neat May 25 18:37:16 whats the ls -lta on uNiXpSyChO's kernel? May 25 18:37:20 yeah, i don't know much about bootloaders. especially on ARM May 25 18:37:31 well grub is not an option for arm May 25 18:37:33 not sure, i'm totally new to this stuff May 25 18:37:47 and the kernel size is usually bigger , on arm. May 25 18:38:03 so there are hardware restrictions... nvram being 2 or 4 mb, but some are 8 and 16 :> May 25 18:38:15 whats good with the palmdatabase.db3? May 25 18:38:58 good question. i'm trying to figure out if i can set up contacts on one phone, then put the resulting PalmDatabase.db3 on others and have everything work May 25 19:20:56 hey guys...need some help. just got a Veer. put it in Dev Mode, hooked it up to my PC and cant access it to install preware. USB works fine, and my PC will recognize my Pre2, just not my veer. any suggestions? May 25 19:21:23 Pull the Novacom installer from the Veer doctor? May 25 19:21:54 What sineot said May 25 19:22:58 SineOt, did you try any of the forum fixes on your gf's pre? May 25 19:23:34 not really. We're trying to get Verizon to replace it for a dysfunctional wifi chip May 25 19:23:46 ah May 25 19:24:19 my verizon rep was really eager to replace my first replacement for a wifi issue (I brought it back in the next day) May 25 19:27:05 Yeah ours was like WELL IT LOOKS LIKE ITS WORKING FINE May 25 19:27:08 and wouldn't do anything May 25 19:27:16 we're going to bring in photos next time May 25 19:27:31 because it won't pick up any wifi networks at the apartment, but it picked up the store wifi May 25 19:28:02 sorry... got distracted.. i used Jason's Novacom installer withthe Veer doc...didnt work May 25 19:29:18 SineOt, I suggest 400,NV_GPS1_CAPABILITIES,252 and 3756,NV_GPS1_DYNAMIC_MODE,3 May 25 19:29:41 RagingMind: No idea what those mean XD May 25 19:30:26 it's the settings to update the firmware settings without using pirated software :) May 25 19:31:06 ah May 25 19:32:27 Audemars02: did you try running hte veer doc without the phone plugged in and install the drivers that way? May 25 19:33:03 oil: going to try that now May 25 19:33:28 oil: i installed the drivers off that Doc with Jason's program, but going to actually uninstall then reinstall May 25 19:33:40 ah May 25 19:35:13 RagingMind: a little more details? May 25 19:36:06 http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-tips-information-resources/206982-palm-pre-gps-additional-gps-modes-autonomous-assisted-cached-28.html#post2701208 May 25 19:36:19 but I use those settings instead of the ones in the file that he posted May 25 19:38:25 considering my verizon device is completely borked on the GPS side that's definately worth a try May 25 19:38:54 setting CAPABILITIES to 255 will also enable assisted GPS (which is on by default but doesn't work) May 25 19:39:07 grr May 25 19:39:11 I've never tried setting it that way, but I figure since I"m not using it I'd turn it off May 25 19:39:12 no spare batteries around May 25 19:43:57 oil: no luck. tried on 2 different machines. May 25 19:44:05 weird May 25 19:44:11 try a different port? May 25 19:44:21 i would say different cable, but you probably dont have 2 special veer cables May 25 19:44:53 does usb mode work? May 25 19:45:24 oil: tried 2 different computes, but only one cable! USB mode works, just not dev mode May 25 19:45:57 what are you trying to install with? May 25 19:46:11 did you try just novacom? May 25 19:46:26 assuming windows: start>run>cmd May 25 19:46:33 then type novacom -t open tty:// May 25 19:54:00 I need 1.4.5 patch testers May 25 19:55:23 preware will not istall! May 25 19:56:34 oil: i tried to install by just running the Doc, and by using Jasons installer. and i tried start-run-cmd then novacom -t open tty:// and i also tried webOS QI May 25 19:58:03 i know you said you enabled devmode but it sounds like you didnt :/ May 25 20:07:06 another patch created.. May 25 20:07:12 oil: you are on 1.4.5 right? May 25 20:07:20 yes May 25 20:07:31 do you have the new app catalog installed? May 25 20:07:38 but i dont install untested stuff on my main device May 25 20:07:42 no May 25 20:07:53 this is tested to work on my devicea May 25 20:08:08 all it does is change an appid and make an app non-visible May 25 20:08:24 so you can have the new app catalog on 1.4.5 fully functional May 25 20:08:25 advanced launcher patch does that :) May 25 20:08:48 allows you to have the new app catalog? :) May 25 20:08:58 allows you to orange+tap an icon to hide the app May 25 20:09:23 well.. for the new app catalog to stay on-device after reboot, this patch is needed May 25 20:09:39 I just hid the old icon to be nice :) it isn't required May 25 20:10:16 do you have the veer doctor downloaded? May 25 20:10:32 * oil is not installing the 2.x catalog on his main phone May 25 20:10:56 why not? May 25 20:11:04 anyone else want to help me test this? May 25 20:11:09 lol May 25 20:11:28 it won't harm your phone :)a May 25 20:11:44 and why haven't you meta-doctored? :) May 25 20:11:56 Patrickc, most people dont do anything to their main phone, for good reason May 25 20:12:17 I do tons of stuff to my main phone May 25 20:12:33 it gets doctored regularly :) lol May 25 20:13:07 Most people want a stable main phone, then a test phone for other stuff May 25 20:13:49 * PatrickC has no stable phones May 25 20:13:52 :) May 25 20:14:10 Ive never doctored my pre2 for vzw since its my main device May 25 20:15:30 wow May 25 20:16:02 I beleieve in not breaking my primary device May 25 20:16:03 what are we wowing about?\ May 25 20:16:50 The only homebrew I have on that thing is preware/saverestore. No patches or anything else May 25 20:17:06 * halfhalo only has wirc on his main webos device. Thats it. May 25 20:17:15 I always patch my main device, I can't stand the stock look May 25 20:18:17 see, most people actually use their phone for important businessy type stuff, so they have to have a reliable main device May 25 20:18:41 Yep May 25 20:18:45 oil: sorry... meeting for work. Dev Mode is most certainly enabled. What is interesting is that after i turn it on, i dont get the Just Charge vs USB prompt that I normally get on my Pre2 (even if its already plugged in) May 25 20:18:53 my main device is reliable May 25 20:19:05 PatrickC: I have a 1.4.5 Sprint Pre+ i can test a patch on for you May 25 20:19:31 Audemars02: PM me your email address and I'll send you the patch May 25 20:19:49 Adam have you tried recovery mode? May 25 20:19:54 its adam.marks@precentral.net ... (i dont care if others see it) May 25 20:20:51 Try the hold volume up at boot then novaterm in May 25 20:21:08 are you the Adam Marks who did this? May 25 20:21:09 http://www.precentral.net/install-webos-2-1-app-catalog-webos-1-4-5-and-2-0-1-phones-not-you-too-can-use-promo-codes May 25 20:22:44 Ausermars02: I'm the person who found out how to do that a month ago May 25 20:26:44 PatrickC: ha! too funny. well, next time u have a great time, email PreCentral about it May 25 20:27:09 I thought I did, but I must not have... May 25 20:27:14 lol May 25 20:27:23 Adam, u try my idea? May 25 20:27:28 I have the SW manager working though :) May 25 20:27:44 do you have the 2.1 app catalog installed Audermars02? May 25 20:27:53 sorry..not yet. if i do boot into recovery mode, that doesnt affect any files on the device, right? May 25 20:28:00 Nope May 25 20:28:32 was that "not yet" to me Audermars02? May 25 20:29:07 Recovery mode only does what you tell it to do May 25 20:31:28 i have it installed May 25 20:31:46 but if i read the article correctly, you have to reinstall it everytime you do a restart May 25 20:32:03 aurasg91: not with my patch you shouldn't have to :) May 25 20:32:16 PM me your email aurash91 May 25 20:35:36 PatrickC: no, that was not to you..that was to scoutcamper May 25 20:35:44 ok May 25 20:36:03 PatrickC: with you patch, how did you get around not being able to access Preferences & Accounts? May 25 20:36:24 I haven't fixed that yet May 25 20:36:40 this just fixed the "having to reinstall after every boot" glitch May 25 20:38:52 PatrickC: so how do you go back to the original version? uninstall patch and reboot? May 25 20:39:00 yeah May 25 20:39:58 Im loving my veer :-) May 25 20:41:20 Audermars02: sent May 25 20:41:28 scoutcamper: meanie!! :P May 25 20:41:56 :-D May 25 20:45:30 bbl May 25 20:47:30 cya May 25 20:49:39 Audemars02: get the email(s)? May 25 20:51:08 do any of you guys have the linphone ipk? May 25 20:51:30 aurash91: you're lookin for rwhitby, i dont think he's awake yet May 25 20:51:57 :| dang australia. I'd posted in the thread a couple days ago but handt heard back from anyone May 25 20:54:47 PatrickC: yes, but have to run out..will check out later May 25 20:55:01 ok.. May 25 20:56:00 I need someone on a 1.4.5 pixi May 25 21:10:21 PatrickC: I have a 1.4.5 pixi. It's my main phone, so I'd want to know how much risk there is of your patch hurting things. I'm not against patching my main phone though. May 25 21:11:20 well.. it should pose no real risk May 25 21:11:36 and if it does hurt anything, the doctor could fix it May 25 21:11:44 and thats why I don't test anything on my main phone May 25 21:11:45 " May 25 21:11:47 (though it should never come to that, always be prepared) May 25 21:11:51 should" is not good enough May 25 21:12:01 I know May 25 21:12:13 but you must always be prepared to do it when testing things May 25 21:12:44 just finished doctoring yesterday. It's a pain, but I dont' have a lot to lose in one day's worth of usage. May 25 21:15:10 ok :) May 25 21:15:16 1 second May 25 21:20:47 I've got an idea for a patch/application, but I dont know where to even begin with how to start it. I want to add to the stock emoticon list a custom set of emoticons. any ideas? May 25 21:21:14 hey oh.. May 25 21:21:25 did the text assist backing up get figured out? May 25 21:22:06 not yet !/ May 25 21:22:07 :/ * May 25 21:22:43 PatrickC: oh yes, there's the man of the hour, was spacing the name.. :) So did it turn out to be a database that needs to be edited, and that's the issue? May 25 21:23:19 I haven't figured anything out yet sadly May 25 21:23:20 weird, went to try to access yesterday's irc log, thought i typo'd, but no, there is no irc log for yesterday.. it's like, yesterday never happened! May 25 21:23:48 yo yo May 25 21:23:55 my twitter feed doesn't show anything May 25 21:24:04 PatrickC: i assume you figured out if the data was in the app's dir or not.. May 25 21:24:07 This is your homepage @bnceo May 25 21:24:08 It's looking mighty bare right now. When you follow people their updates will appear here. So go find some interesting people to follow! May 25 21:24:08 You can tell the world what's happening in the box above. May 25 21:24:40 ajay_: I haven't gotten even that far yet May 25 21:24:47 I've been working on something else :) May 25 21:25:24 nm. twitter is working on it May 25 21:25:43 PatrickC: oh ok.. it seemed like there was quite a bit of chatter about all this yesterday so i assumed differently, my bad! May 25 21:25:54 np May 25 21:25:59 yesterday there was May 25 21:26:12 i don't see anything in the app's dir tho, so i'd tend to concur with whoever said it's not here.. :) May 25 21:26:15 but today, I've been working on something that I found out a month ago May 25 21:26:23 and someone else stole it and reported it to PC :/ May 25 21:26:36 rwhitby said that iirc :) May 25 21:26:52 damn, text assist doesn't pull up by typing "tass".. gotta keep it consistent webOS! :) May 25 21:27:04 PatrickC: appcat? May 25 21:27:11 yeah May 25 21:27:27 i was surprised nobody figured that out earlier. May 25 21:27:28 . May 25 21:29:00 I figured it out a month ago May 25 21:30:12 if I wasn't already on 2.1 i woulda chomped at that bit for sure.. :) May 25 21:30:20 damnit those bitches all misread my comment on that thread. ARG! May 25 21:31:37 PatrickC: that's what i'm sayin.. ;)^ May 25 21:31:39 what thread? May 25 21:31:47 s/thread/PC article/ May 25 21:32:18 PatrickC: is it required that it only lasts a boot? if you replace the appcat that comes with it won't that work? May 25 21:32:49 ah May 25 21:32:50 I fixed that ;) May 25 21:32:50 that's what I've been working on May 25 21:33:14 can someone tell me if the comment about not needing to download the whole doctor is unreadable? Nobody got it May 25 21:33:31 Is readable May 25 21:33:34 I did got it May 25 21:33:37 get May 25 21:33:39 brb May 25 21:34:34 ajay_: I read that, but where?? May 25 21:34:51 if you understood that comment and can reply or +1 it that'd be great! May 25 21:34:57 NuttyBunny: ? May 25 21:36:50 hold on... where is it? in the announcement? or in the thread? May 25 21:38:40 my comment? in the thread? May 25 21:40:43 yep May 25 21:40:57 thumbed up and answered to zhephree May 25 21:40:59 search for httpunzip May 25 21:41:09 oh boom you're too fast for me :) May 25 21:41:40 thumb down zhephree too ;^) May 25 21:45:10 destine1 on PreCentral (about 2.1 Pixi): We should all thank Zacky..his over-zealousness has done us all a huge favor. We now know that the CDMA driver is not working, and could possibly fry your modem. So, moving forward, we need a Pixi guru (I'm thinking NB ) to figure out how to get that working. Again, thank you Zacky! May 25 21:45:32 hahahahahahahaha May 25 21:45:43 :D May 25 21:46:12 oh god May 25 21:46:14 lol May 25 21:46:21 oh crap! May 25 21:46:31 He (supposedly) managed to fry his Pixi May 25 21:46:52 so the in-the-wild Pixi running 2.0 is GSM, so now the challenge is to figure it out on CDMA? May 25 21:47:02 and the 1.x firmware doesn't work? May 25 21:47:44 ajay_: No idea, I have no CDMA Pixi, and I don't know if a 1.4.5 activated Pre works when doctoring to 2.1 w/skip activation patch May 25 21:47:50 I'm going to guess that NuttyBunny doesn't have a cdma pixi and Zacky59 was teh first to try it May 25 21:47:59 Loudergood: Bingo! May 25 21:48:22 that part was obvious :) May 25 21:48:23 and given his history I'm going to mark these results as "unreliable" May 25 21:49:03 Loudergood: LOL .. so, we need another guinea pig? :D May 25 21:49:11 NuttyBunny: hrm, i don't understand the 1.4.5->2.1 bit, but interesting.. May 25 21:49:22 haha May 25 21:50:12 I have a Verizon pixi plus NIB May 25 21:50:19 but not really wanting to fry it. May 25 21:50:43 ajay_: Yes, I have a CDMA and GSM Pre, and I see that the GSM pre never does the "Activation" part when doctored, well.. it never does it, so I was wondering if the modem can be kept activated across doctors using the skip activation patch w/meta doctor May 25 21:51:01 but I don't have CDMA service of my own here, so I can't test that May 25 21:51:35 you should build a cdma tower in ur room.. ;^) May 25 21:51:49 hehehe.. I don't like cdma :P May 25 21:51:50 brb May 25 21:52:08 what does that have to do w/ anything? :) May 25 21:54:32 hmm May 25 21:54:44 is he the first person to actually fry a webos phone?? haha May 25 21:55:09 I doubt he actually did May 25 21:55:28 I have suspicions about his patience and diagnostic skills May 25 21:55:51 well.. fry it to the point where he doesn't know how to fix it ;) May 25 21:56:25 well..I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who don't even realize you can doctor May 25 21:56:47 true May 25 21:57:07 ok... fry the modem May 25 21:58:16 I wonder how he knows that if he can't even turn it on? May 25 21:58:48 * PatrickC gives up... he isn't the first lol May 25 21:59:14 would someone kindly send me a direct link to the latest version of impostah? May 25 21:59:43 http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/armv7/org.webosinternals.impostah_0.8.7_arm.ipk May 25 21:59:52 thank you =] May 25 22:00:11 someone is lazy! May 25 22:00:14 :p May 25 22:00:15 oh i thought she wanted straight out of git latest :) May 25 22:00:18 http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/armv7/org.webosinternals.impostah_0.9.1_arm.ipk is the testing feed May 25 22:00:20 you don't have preware? :) May 25 22:00:45 I can't run preware on test devices May 25 22:00:48 I just happened to have that up in a tab May 25 22:00:51 except in, ahh...special circumstances May 25 22:01:27 oh .. armv6 is pixi, v7 is pre right? haha.. well i'm sure that didn't help yesterday that i loaded up the wrong one. eh. ;| May 25 22:02:03 "test devices" eh? :) May 25 22:02:05 oh testing looks like it's the newest from git, perfect.. May 25 22:02:27 PatrickC: be careful, i feel like i saw in dr. who, how they turn people into test devices May 25 22:02:38 * ajay_ exclaims the Veer is people! May 25 22:02:55 indeed May 25 22:03:07 haha May 25 22:03:24 hmmm May 25 22:03:31 why would a bunch of items be grayed out? May 25 22:03:46 people think that palm is just seriously lagging on getting the Pre3/etc out, but, you know, it takes a lot of people to make all those devices. May 25 22:04:00 and i, for the record, do _not_ volunteer to be a test device May 25 22:04:14 I will, however, volunteer to test devices :) May 25 22:04:27 Adora: whats grayed out? May 25 22:04:45 Anyone have any advice for starting out writing apps? May 25 22:04:56 halfhalo: the top half of the list, basically =] May 25 22:05:08 on that note.. May 25 22:05:27 Adora: No palm profile maybe? May 25 22:05:59 halfhalo: what if it doesn't have a sim? May 25 22:06:18 I dunno, lemme find out May 25 22:09:11 nope, it all works with no sim but valid profile for me May 25 22:10:11 lemme try on the no-profile device May 25 22:11:57 Adora: its all greyed out for me with no profile attached to the device May 25 22:21:24 bbl May 25 23:40:40 hm every piece of information on creating an unpriviledged user is marked deprecated, can someone point me to the preferred way? May 25 23:41:46 restate that please May 25 23:43:38 i want to ssh into my pre in order to upload media files without having to use the cable, for that I guess I have to use an unpriviledged (normal) user account. so what is the preferred way of creating such an account? May 25 23:43:59 just adduser? May 25 23:44:31 or can I use/modify the luna (1000) or oprofile (1001) users? May 25 23:44:57 or is there some automated preware mechanism that I can't find May 25 23:45:18 ahh, this is not a question for me May 25 23:45:25 rwhitby, oil ping May 25 23:46:14 hm, thanks though May 26 00:03:51 einalex: install SFTP in Preware. done. May 26 00:04:14 (read the homepage link in Preware for the package before you install it, as you do for every package you install.) May 26 00:52:15 rwhitby: nice in theory. but starting the service doesn't result in running the service (checked via ps aux|grep ssh) May 26 01:00:41 einalex: works for many people, including myself. not theory, practice. May 26 01:01:21 hm May 26 01:01:33 well it working for other people doesn't really help me May 26 01:01:43 correct. May 26 01:01:47 just running sshd -d doesn't even give any kind of output May 26 01:02:01 and not giving more context or debug info doesn't really help you either ;) May 26 01:02:04 no process is started May 26 01:02:18 i'm trying to get to debug info May 26 01:02:48 but it's kinda hard to get it when the logs are empty and the daemon doesn't seem to run May 26 01:03:18 it did work before the reboot though May 26 01:05:10 ok, reinstalling it made it work, lets see whether it survives another reboot May 26 01:05:56 einalex: for a start you haven't said exactly what device or webOS version or version of Preware or version of the SFTP package or how you installed it, etc. May 26 01:06:07 *nod* May 26 01:06:09 quite right May 26 01:06:42 its a gsm pre1 on 1.4.5, all package versions are up to date. May 26 01:07:10 i reinstalled the packages which got the ssh daemon running May 26 01:07:20 should "just work" then in you installed OpenSSH SFTP Server package (and it's dependencies) using Preware May 26 01:07:24 i'm now checking if that status survives the reboot May 26 01:07:25 s/in/if/ May 26 01:07:26 rwhitby meant: should "just work" then if you installed OpenSSH SFTP Server package (and it's dependencies) using Preware May 26 01:09:01 what i did earlier was install just the ssh server (without sftp), install a govnah + kernel + preware update May 26 01:09:11 the daemon was running fine May 26 01:09:23 i rebooted and couldn't get it to run again May 26 01:09:44 the script in /var/palm/event.d should do that automatically May 26 01:10:02 yes, it should May 26 01:10:25 but didn't. the daemon didn't start with the script and it didn't start from the command line May 26 01:11:16 now.. May 26 01:11:39 after reinstall of the ssh and sftp server it works (even after another reboot) May 26 01:12:23 hm, quite curious May 26 01:14:11 Let me know if you work out why it had a transient failure May 26 01:14:32 i will May 26 01:15:26 i think i'll remove the packages when there is another update to govnah/deltadagger/preware May 26 01:15:38 just to see if the combination made it hiccup May 26 01:15:51 however unlikely that is **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 26 02:59:57 2011