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Jun 02 03:00:05 <Ted___> I was just curious to what exactly a token is, and if it is necessary if you just wanted to use the device as wi-fi-only.
Jun 02 03:01:17 <rwhitby> if you want to use wifi-only, you don't need to change the hardware
Jun 02 03:01:20 <rwhitby> just bypass activation
Jun 02 03:02:05 <dwc-> oh look, someone here with better answers
Jun 02 03:02:43 <Ted___> I'm kinda in an awkward situation: I have a broken pre plus (screen is broken) and my buddy has a old Sprint pre from his coms board switch.
Jun 02 03:03:16 <Ted___> I just curious about dropping the AT&T coms board into the Sprint pre and just using it as wi-fi only.
Jun 02 03:03:27 <Ted___> I was just* (sorry, typos again)
Jun 02 03:05:32 <rwhitby> oh, his sprint pre doesn't have a comms board in it ?
Jun 02 03:06:08 <Ted___> No, he put it in a Pre Plus on Verizon.
Jun 02 03:07:24 <Ted___> So, I have a Pre Plus with a broken screen and a Sprint Pre with no coms board, I wanted to combine the AT&T coms board and the Sprint Pre just to make it Wi-FI-only.
Jun 02 03:08:15 <rwhitby> sure, you can do that
Jun 02 03:09:42 <rwhitby> change the tokens to make it a model P100UEU and carrier ROW, and then use the WR doctor
Jun 02 03:10:22 <rwhitby> or make it think it's a P101UNA and carrier ATT, and use the AT&T doctor
Jun 02 03:11:16 <Ted___> Extracting the tokens is my largest concern, because that's what I'm unfamiliar with.
Jun 02 03:11:47 <Ted___> The Pre Plus has a broken screen, so I can't interact with it at all, I don't know how I could extract the tokens with the command line on the Wiki,
Jun 02 03:11:54 <Ted___> And the Sprint pre is already taken apart.
Jun 02 03:12:31 <Ted___> What would happen if I were just to drop the coms board into the Sprint Pre, and try to turn it on? (Just for curiosity's sake)
Jun 02 03:14:04 <rwhitby> The sprint pre has all the device-specific tokens you need, apart from changing DMMODEL, PRODoID and DMCARRER when you flash it to change the tokens to make it a P100UEU or P101UNA.
Jun 02 03:14:32 <rwhitby> it would work fine, but would be trying to talk to a CDMA modem, so would kill the battery.
Jun 02 03:15:44 <Ted___> But it would still work, yes? The battery would just drain faster?
Jun 02 03:16:37 <rwhitby> it should boot, yes.
Jun 02 03:17:19 <rwhitby> in fact, you could use the new test-meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0 script
Jun 02 03:17:33 <rwhitby> no need to change any tokens then
Jun 02 03:17:39 <Ted___> Really?
Jun 02 03:18:00 <Ted___> Wow, you just made my day with that! That way I could boot 2.1 as well.
Jun 02 03:18:08 <rwhitby> yep
Jun 02 03:18:18 <Ted___> Thank you so much for the information, mate, it's greatly appreciated.
Jun 02 03:18:19 <rwhitby> use the --wifi-only switch
Jun 02 03:18:29 <Ted___> Alright, cool!
Jun 02 03:19:12 <Ted___> And, just for future reference, what exactly is a "token?"
Jun 02 03:27:43 <rwhitby> it's an entry in the NVRAM partition
Jun 02 03:27:53 <rwhitby> not usually modified by a webOS doctor
Jun 02 03:28:15 <Ted___> Ah, alrighty :) Thanks again!
Jun 02 03:29:11 <Ted___> One lest question: would the script I would want to run (after the coms switch) be "test-meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0 --wifi-only"
Jun 02 03:30:01 <rwhitby> you would run ./scripts/test-meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0 --wifi-only
Jun 02 03:30:37 <Ted___> Alright! Thank you so much for all the information tonight :)
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Jun 02 04:06:55 <Ted___> Hey, Rod, still there?
Jun 02 04:22:13 <Ted___> Thanks again for all the help, everyone!
Jun 02 08:47:23 <swisstomcat> morning
Jun 02 12:28:59 <floridarandy> where can i find new test-meta-verizon-preplus-2.1.0 script which also installs flash
Jun 02 12:29:20 <floridarandy> i have verizon device and want to check it out
Jun 02 14:26:34 <coveredwagonkid> quick question for anyone active:
Jun 02 14:27:11 <coveredwagonkid> is telnet not available on 2.x or am i just doing something wrong?
Jun 02 14:33:23 <dwc-> you can install it from optware with ipkg-opt
Jun 02 14:34:05 <dwc-> it's in inetutils
Jun 02 15:13:58 <kevets> welp, tried out new test vz preplus 2.1.0 metadoctor script with flash and it works great. can play freetetris.org no problem actually!
Jun 02 15:14:11 <kevets> no luck with my cellular data however. damn
Jun 02 17:45:11 <sugardave> man, 8 GB makes a LOT of difference, woo!
Jun 03 00:56:00 <edude03> Hello everyone :)
Jun 03 01:22:19 <bnceo> edude03: sup
Jun 03 01:23:59 <geeksquadkid> what's up?
Jun 03 01:27:11 <bnceo> so, I'm super happy to get my HP Veer tomorrow
Jun 03 01:27:30 <bpadalino> congrats
Jun 03 01:29:35 <bnceo> but as a non AT&T user, gonna rock it on WiFi for a while
Jun 03 01:29:56 <rwhitby> #*DEVMODE# and Impostah :)
Jun 03 01:30:18 <bnceo> Mr. W, you betcha I will be using your guides for that
Jun 03 01:30:42 <bnceo> hopefully, an unlock solution comes through and I will have the GSM Pre2 and the Veer to give to my less fortunate family in Peru next month
Jun 03 01:30:55 <bnceo> Pre2 being unlocked already
Jun 03 01:32:41 <rwhitby> veer unlock is ready apparently
Jun 03 01:33:05 <bnceo> I read the thread. I want to see a few success stories first
Jun 03 01:33:50 <bnceo> How does unlock work? Once it's unlocked, it's unlocked forever? Or if I doctor the phone, do I have to unlock again? Such a noob in this aspect =(
Jun 03 01:33:59 <rwhitby> unlocked forever
Jun 03 01:35:09 <summatusmentis> why would you want to re-lock?
Jun 03 01:49:38 <edude03> bnceo:
Jun 03 01:49:52 <edude03> I'm trying to figure out how to get webos 2.1 on my doctored 2,1 pre plus
Jun 03 01:50:04 <edude03> *webos 2.1 apps on my
Jun 03 01:55:43 <edude03> This is killing me :/
Jun 03 01:55:52 <edude03> All I want is grooveshark on my shiny new PP+
Jun 03 01:55:57 <edude03> But nooooooooo~
Jun 03 02:14:54 <edude03> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade#Masquerading I read that
Jun 03 02:15:16 <edude03> But I don't get why the OS/device can't be spoofed yet :/
Jun 03 02:15:32 <edude03> Is there some sort of secure read only memory the palm server reads or something : /
Jun 03 02:16:14 <rwhitby> IMEI spoofing will get you put in jail in many places.
Jun 03 02:16:39 <edude03> Palm uses the IMEI to verify the origin of your device?
Jun 03 02:17:21 <edude03> That said, I'm using a Verizon LG Decoy on Telus with an ESN spoof so I clearly have balls of steel :P
Jun 03 02:17:22 <rwhitby> The device record on the Palm servers is based on your IMEI.  That device record never changes, irrespective of which Palm Profile it is associated with.
Jun 03 02:18:03 <rwhitby> Then you have the tools available to you to determine your own destiny.
Jun 03 02:18:18 <edude03> No really :p
Jun 03 02:18:22 <edude03> *not
Jun 03 02:19:01 <edude03> Because assuming I did want to spoof the IMEI that would be I'd need a Legit O2 PP+
Jun 03 02:19:13 <edude03> Which would defeat the purpose of hacking mine
Jun 03 02:19:23 <edude03> s/be/mean/g
Jun 03 02:22:06 <edude03> Oh well thanks for the explanation rwhitby. I'm surprised palm makes it so difficult for no reason
Jun 03 02:22:45 <rwhitby> indeed, we are all confused by the business drivers behind the geo-restriction policies.
Jun 03 02:25:30 <edude03> ~sigh, I guess I'll have to wait awhile till the Pre 3 comes out to dip my toes back in the webos waters
Jun 03 02:25:45 <edude03> Though for my first 12 hours with WebOS I'm still rather impressed
Jun 03 02:26:05 <rwhitby> have you tried using Impostah to install grooveshark?
Jun 03 02:30:14 <edude03> No..... I haven't...
Jun 03 02:33:49 <bnceo> hopefully, the info on no more geo restrictions is true
Jun 03 02:33:54 <bnceo> because if so, wow. BIG change
Jun 03 02:34:25 <bnceo> edude03: did you try to access it via Preware and having Preware load the Palm App Catalog?
Jun 03 02:34:42 <edude03> No
Jun 03 02:35:03 <edude03> OK I just got preware reinstall and install Impostah
Jun 03 02:36:26 <bnceo> let us know what happens
Jun 03 02:40:41 <bnceo> oh, Pre2 question. Want to give a buddy my Pre2 to use for the weekend. He has Tmobile. I activated it using another friend's AT&T sim. Can I just toss in the TMobile sim and it will work? Or do I need to reset everything and get back to First Use App
Jun 03 02:40:43 <edude03> Wait,  so I need to launch the catalog from within preware?
Jun 03 02:41:55 <bnceo> in preware feeds, select yes to the app catalog feeds
Jun 03 02:43:42 <edude03> OK
Jun 03 02:45:29 <SineOt> bnceo: if it's unlocked, then yes, just toss and go
Jun 03 02:46:20 <bnceo> ok. Will try tomorrow. If not, I'll just do a full erase. No biggie
Jun 03 02:47:18 <edude03> How is the Pre 2 compared to the PP+ ?
Jun 03 02:47:39 <bnceo> night and day
Jun 03 02:47:50 <bnceo> the glass, the snappiness of the gestures. everything
Jun 03 02:48:09 <edude03> Damn I want one now :P
Jun 03 02:48:14 <bnceo> if anything, my only issue is that the glass makes things harder for me
Jun 03 02:48:21 <bnceo> because I got oily skin and fingers =(
Jun 03 02:48:34 <bnceo> I want to put a Pre Plus zaggshield on it
Jun 03 02:48:41 <bnceo> no idea if it would fit properly tho
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