**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 03 02:59:57 2011 Jun 03 03:36:15 if i sign into my profile on impostah (the same that the device was technically logged into), does it mess anything up? Jun 03 03:38:40 Thanks bnceo It worked perfectly :P Jun 03 03:38:51 w00t! Jun 03 03:38:53 What I did was load the catalog in Preware then copy the ID into impostah Jun 03 03:38:58 *copied Jun 03 03:39:00 yup! Jun 03 03:39:02 there you go Jun 03 03:39:10 Is there an easier way though? Jun 03 03:39:11 a combo of me and rod Jun 03 03:39:19 nah Jun 03 03:39:22 that's why it's for geeks! Jun 03 03:40:36 Awww Jun 03 03:40:43 Your right thanks both of you :P Jun 03 03:41:05 I'm suprised there is no "hooks" or something to auto copy the id into impostah Jun 03 03:48:39 any other impostah experts here? Jun 03 03:54:50 k. gnite everyone Jun 03 03:54:55 my Veer comes tomorrow! w00t! Jun 03 05:22:19 Dead as palm:( Jun 03 05:26:24 Heh Jun 03 09:02:35 hi everyone Jun 03 09:04:15 I don't know if there is already a page about this on the wiki but if not I think it could be very usefull: "how to not brick a veer" explaining how to not do the same thing as rwhitby Jun 03 09:04:43 Very easy. Stay away from PmA6Updater Jun 03 09:25:30 rwhitby: ok so yeah very easy. perhaps it could be useful to add this on the veer disassembly page? Jun 03 09:26:35 done Jun 03 09:40:25 GarthPS, it was already on there Jun 03 09:42:44 cryptk: not here http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Veer_Disassembly Jun 03 09:44:05 Hi, I'm interested in testing the linphone alpha...how to do that? Jun 03 09:46:01 weird... I coulda sworn it used to be there Jun 03 09:47:01 ahh, I see, he had what he was doing, but he didn't mention the exact binary Jun 03 09:47:10 My SIP Provider is sipgate Jun 03 09:47:22 so technically it was there before, but only someone who knows how it works would have been able to use that info to know what to stay away from Jun 03 09:47:23 Geomatic: what device Jun 03 09:47:27 it is now clarified Jun 03 09:49:42 Pre Plus O2 Germany on webOS 2.10 (P101UEU) Jun 03 09:49:45 cryptk: sorry... I don't understand why my crtl+F "PmA6Updater" did not found so ... my bad Jun 03 09:50:04 GarthPS, the PmA6Updater part wasn't there before Jun 03 09:50:19 but there was some info about what caused it, but the binary wasn't named Jun 03 09:50:22 it is much better now Jun 03 09:50:31 cryptk: yeha I just saw the last diff..:) Jun 03 09:50:34 yeah Jun 03 09:51:08 so technically there were some instructions of what to "not do" but they weren't clear for people who didn't know the full story Jun 03 09:53:09 rwhitby: need more infos? Jun 03 09:53:41 Geomatic: see /msg and report in the PreCentral thread Jun 03 09:54:33 hi all, someone know if there is a daap client for palm pre ? Jun 03 09:56:05 rwhitby: thx. will report asap! installation finished. Jun 03 13:45:07 hi all, someone know if there is a daap client for palm pre ? Jun 03 14:25:43 i saw that option in banshee Jun 03 14:26:06 The Digital Audio Access Protocol (DAAP) is the proprietary protocol introduced by Apple in its iTunes software to share media across a local network. Jun 03 14:26:16 DAAP addresses the same problems for Apple as the UPnP AV standards address for members of the Digital Living Network Alliance (DLNA). Jun 03 14:26:36 except one is open source and the other is crapple Jun 03 14:27:12 OpenDAAP forum Jun 03 14:27:34 you are looking to stream Darkmagister? Jun 03 14:27:36 or to listen? Jun 03 14:27:44 client to the daemon or client as a listener? Jun 03 14:28:00 i have a server daap in my pc Jun 03 14:28:13 and i whant to listen the music from the pre ... Jun 03 14:28:38 now i use ampache pre .. but i prefer daap ... it's more simple to set up Jun 03 14:28:51 well, if you can find any linux command line daap client, it can be cross compiled Jun 03 14:29:06 then someone could write an interface using it as a service Jun 03 14:29:13 kinda like how preware works Jun 03 14:29:16 or wIRC Jun 03 14:29:23 mmm ok let me search :D Jun 03 14:29:37 getting a command line one cross compiled and working would be the start Jun 03 14:29:47 I even technically have a ventrilo client that works on the pre Jun 03 14:29:53 ALLOWED_PACKETS tcp -- anywhere anywhere tcp dpt:daap Jun 03 14:29:56 but it is command line only, and outbound only Jun 03 14:30:05 but I have streamed MP3 Jun 03 14:30:12 MP3's from my pre to a vent server Jun 03 14:30:28 and even had it to where you could control it through the ventrilo chat Jun 03 14:32:01 for now i have found a daap server it's called mt-daap Jun 03 14:34:29 next step, use WIDK to cross compile Jun 03 14:34:42 then put it on the pre and see if it works (if you did everything right it should) Jun 03 14:34:56 but you may need to get the source of some dependencies and cross compile those as well Jun 03 14:35:02 or see if they are available through optware Jun 03 14:35:16 then after that convert it to act as a service, and write a GUI for it Jun 03 14:35:36 write the GUI in Enyo Jun 03 14:35:51 then sell that bad boy in the App Cat for the TouchPad Jun 03 14:36:02 as long as the license agreements for everything allow it Jun 03 14:36:08 last step... profit Jun 03 14:36:22 oh... almost forgot... release a free version as well Jun 03 14:36:34 :D Jun 03 14:37:24 ok .... it's quite long :D i think :D need to find how can i set up a daap client first ;) Jun 03 14:37:43 a question ... if i have a simply app in c on via command line ... Jun 03 14:38:19 with pdk i can use it without convert it to JS and HTML ? .. and i only have to create a GUI ? Jun 03 14:40:30 kind of Jun 03 14:40:47 but go the route for whatever languages you know better Jun 03 14:40:58 either HTML/CSS/JS or C/C++ Jun 03 14:41:39 If your lucky... you would just need to write html/css/js to interface with it Jun 03 14:42:12 I sure hope you're home cryptk :) Jun 03 14:42:25 NEVAR! Jun 03 14:42:30 I never leave the rackspace! Jun 03 14:43:11 I really hope you're at home Lumiere Jun 03 14:43:16 clearly we need a picture of you locked in a rack cabinet Jun 03 14:43:22 lol, that would be sad if you were in the office Jun 03 14:43:24 cryptk: I am :) Jun 03 14:43:36 yes, it would Jun 03 14:44:27 I am down for pics of me chained to the building Jun 03 14:44:35 it is a pretty awesome building to be chained to Jun 03 14:44:45 pics of you in chains? hot Jun 03 14:44:50 >__> Jun 03 14:45:28 summatusmentis, you know I'm a dude right... Jun 03 14:46:03 I mean, yes, I sort of responded without thinking about which channel I was in, or who I was talking to Jun 03 14:46:22 then I got really uncomfortable Jun 03 14:46:27 so, sorry Jun 03 14:46:27 cryptk: true Jun 03 14:46:33 LOL Jun 03 14:46:34 summatusmentis: wow... just... wow Jun 03 14:46:46 cryptk: chain you to the sail? Jun 03 14:46:57 hahaha Jun 03 14:47:11 which sail? the one at the front door? Jun 03 14:47:13 yea Jun 03 14:47:16 hrm... could work Jun 03 14:47:35 or one of the massive steel I beams that hold up the 2nd floor Jun 03 14:47:40 but I was thinking we should try and find a 4 post rack cabinet Jun 03 14:47:46 and lock you in it Jun 03 14:47:50 put a logo on it Jun 03 14:48:14 haha, put a WOSI sticker on it Jun 03 14:48:19 I can get some from rboatright Jun 03 14:48:28 I need one of those for the work lappy Jun 03 14:48:34 * oil hasn't gotten one yet :( Jun 03 14:48:40 cryptk: WOSI-I? Jun 03 14:48:47 WebOS-Internals Inside! :) Jun 03 14:48:50 hahaha Jun 03 14:49:00 that would be a good computer sticker Jun 03 14:49:16 paste over intel sticker -> here Jun 03 14:49:20 TOO MANY CHATS GOING ON!!!!! Jun 03 14:49:30 lol LOUD NOISES! Jun 03 14:49:31 I have twitter, facebook, IRC, google chat... Jun 03 14:49:33 all at once Jun 03 14:49:51 and I am in 13 channels... and that's just freenode Jun 03 14:49:54 * Lumiere understands... aim, yahoo, msn, gtalk, skype, irc, jabber Jun 03 14:50:11 I have reduced my channel count... I used to have 2 irssi setups with 50 windows Jun 03 14:50:17 that was nuts Jun 03 14:50:33 I just have one ZNC server, but there are several people with accounts on it Jun 03 14:50:52 any time I reboot that server half the WOSI core members drop offline, lol Jun 03 14:50:56 lol Jun 03 14:51:02 and if I reboot another server... the other half go, HAHA Jun 03 14:51:07 irc proxies... yay... I just screen+irssi Jun 03 14:51:14 cryptk: I put bitlbee on my VPS for all my non-irc chat (making it irc chat) :) Jun 03 14:51:36 * oil is probably the only wi member who doesn't use a bouncer xD Jun 03 14:51:40 I like keeping them separate, lets me control how "accessible" I am Jun 03 14:51:50 hey oil, want an account on my bouncer? Jun 03 14:51:52 nah... Jun 03 14:51:54 lol Jun 03 14:51:55 lol Jun 03 14:51:59 mean Jun 03 14:52:01 we gotta have someone who stays online when I go on a reboot rampage Jun 03 14:52:31 "dear god... all of WOSI has dropped off the internet" Jun 03 14:52:37 "don't worry, that's jsut cryptk" Jun 03 14:52:40 lol Jun 03 14:52:57 I test my code in production Jun 03 14:53:02 * Loudergood nominates patrickC Jun 03 14:53:20 what is he nominated for? Jun 03 14:53:29 cryptk: "guy to yell at"? Jun 03 14:53:38 the high energy over dramatic role Jun 03 14:53:43 ahh, lol Jun 03 14:53:46 he's 15, he's perfect for it Jun 03 14:54:03 http://i.imgur.com/y7Hm9.jpg Jun 03 14:54:30 oil: beat me to it Jun 03 14:54:35 :) Jun 03 14:54:59 * Lumiere claps slowly Jun 03 14:55:47 hmm my laptop just started crying Jun 03 14:56:26 hey, I made a few last minute changes to the WOSI wiki in production... but those changes kept it online for the engadget mention Jun 03 14:56:33 server barely noticed it Jun 03 14:57:08 http://tsukiyo.planet.ee/facepalm.bmp Jun 03 14:58:04 I had a guy mention that picture to me last night at work Jun 03 14:58:12 the testing in production one Jun 03 14:58:26 I had to explain that picture to someone in a bar one night Jun 03 14:58:30 cryptk: yes... I was standing there <_< Jun 03 14:58:44 no, it was after you left Jun 03 14:58:48 it was around 3AM ish Jun 03 14:59:00 oh... someone else was talking about it earlier then Jun 03 14:59:04 we were joking about it last night, but after you left another guy mentioned it Jun 03 14:59:11 lol Jun 03 15:05:21 ok, 15 stickers on their way to me Jun 03 15:05:26 Lumiere, one has your name on it Jun 03 15:05:44 yay! Jun 03 15:06:02 it might have to cover that disgusting apple on my work laptop :) Jun 03 15:06:33 wtf! Jun 03 15:06:57 haha Jun 03 15:07:50 cryptk: actually I have one of those "Powered by Ubuntu" stickers to stick under the apple if I reinstall on it Jun 03 15:10:04 * oil has to go jury duty now :/ Jun 03 15:10:05 our company likes to issue out Mac's for work computers Jun 03 15:10:35 when I was in the military I got a jury summons twice Jun 03 15:10:38 every time i look at my "juror 13" badge i have to wear, i think "COMIC SAAAAAAANS!!" Jun 03 15:10:39 didn't have to go either time Jun 03 15:11:00 got my commander to write a letter saying that I had other government obligations Jun 03 15:11:18 * oil is not a good enough liar to get out of it Jun 03 15:11:20 I've never been called for jury duty even Jun 03 15:11:29 wha, this is my 3rd time Jun 03 15:12:11 my 2 week period actually ends today, but now im on a case that will go till wednesday :/ Jun 03 15:12:13 oil, say a community of >1000 people are depending on you to make their devices great Jun 03 15:12:19 can I ask how old you are oil? Jun 03 15:12:24 26 Jun 03 15:12:40 oh, I'm 22, so I guess it's possibly reasonable I haven't been called Jun 03 15:12:55 I got called... didn't have to work any cases... so I got paid for 3 days and didn't do anything Jun 03 15:12:58 it goes by voter registration/driver license Jun 03 15:13:05 hrm... I always thought you were older than me oil... Jun 03 15:13:08 yeah, slave wages Jun 03 15:13:09 not sure why, but I always did Jun 03 15:13:13 $10.. a day Jun 03 15:13:37 cryptk: because everyon else in wi is old? Jun 03 15:13:37 heh Jun 03 15:13:41 maybe... Jun 03 15:13:41 lol Jun 03 15:13:51 you and I are the onyl young ones Jun 03 15:14:03 actually, i think puffy and egaudet are both mid-20s Jun 03 15:14:21 I'm 27, but I have the back and knees of a 50 year old Jun 03 15:14:26 lol Jun 03 15:14:39 too many motocross wrecks Jun 03 15:14:39 ok, really gotta go now, bbl Jun 03 15:14:42 later Jun 03 15:15:28 cryptk: you got them the fun way... my knees are dead from swimming Jun 03 15:15:49 yeah, mine are from a combination of motocross and kickboxing Jun 03 15:16:16 back/knees from motocross, ribs and more knees from kickboxing Jun 03 15:16:43 man, that week in a coma was fun though Jun 03 15:16:56 then I woke up... and then went back into a coma for another 2 weeks Jun 03 15:16:59 ouch Jun 03 15:17:19 at least I am told I woke up for a bit... I don't remember it Jun 03 15:17:27 how did u do that? Jun 03 15:19:14 motocross accident Jun 03 15:19:24 quad jump tail grab with 3 people Jun 03 15:19:36 up one hill, fly over two, land on the 4th, doing a tail grab Jun 03 15:19:42 3 riders all in the air at the same time Jun 03 15:19:56 I was the middle guy... first guy missed his tail and knocked me off my bike in mid air Jun 03 15:20:13 came crashing down from about 50 feet up at about 80-90 mph Jun 03 15:20:27 tends to kill you... I call myself lucky Jun 03 15:21:13 woke up, saw the vid... thought the guy in the middle died... was then informed that I was the guy in the middle Jun 03 15:23:04 well now I know what to ask if you ever get puddin'd Jun 03 15:25:37 what, have I ever almost died? Jun 03 15:26:05 that is only one of many times I have almost died, lol Jun 03 15:27:47 so, anyone else in the San Antonio area want a WOSI sticker? Jun 03 15:28:30 I will have 15... 5 are claimed... perhaps I should come up with some kind of cool ploy to figure out who gets the other 10 Jun 03 15:29:38 cryptk: number of original pres broken in a year? Jun 03 15:30:45 me? Jun 03 15:30:46 none Jun 03 15:30:52 never replaced a Pre Jun 03 15:30:57 I meant as the cool ploy Jun 03 15:31:06 or most interesting broken pre story Jun 03 15:31:07 closest I have gotten was replacing the screen on my 2 Jun 03 15:31:15 hrm... can't be verified though Jun 03 15:31:33 I am plotting in the background with the kind of the stickers though to get some out amongst the masses Jun 03 15:31:38 s/kind/king/ Jun 03 15:31:38 cryptk meant: I am plotting in the background with the king of the stickers though to get some out amongst the masses Jun 03 15:31:46 thanks infobot Jun 03 15:31:50 have a cookie <_< Jun 03 15:32:29 ~botsnack Jun 03 15:32:29 thanks, cryptk Jun 03 15:32:32 heh Jun 03 15:33:03 cryptk: you need a webos flag for over your desk Jun 03 15:36:11 Lumiere, I have thought about getting a WOSI flag made for it Jun 03 15:36:40 I wonder if there is anyone around SA we can try and throw it to ;) Jun 03 15:42:11 not sure Jun 03 16:03:57 hi Jun 03 16:05:35 #wirc Jun 03 16:05:46 exit Jun 03 16:45:50 I'm getting a int Pre 2 verizon for $150 Jun 03 16:45:56 thnx craigslist Jun 03 16:46:05 mint* Jun 03 16:46:13 I wanna make it sprint Jun 03 16:46:30 can I have 2.1 on it or just 2.0.1? Jun 04 00:25:33 hey guys, i had something weird happen today, i was wondering if someone could shed some light... Jun 04 00:27:20 i checked preware and had 6 updates (tweaks, advanced patches, ect) and so i installed them, the phone wanted to reboot, and when it came back, it had completely wiped all of my data on the usb drive, and removed all of my apps that don't come stock on webos. Jun 04 00:28:10 i tried to doctor it, but it would always get stuck at 12%. it wouldn't ever get past this message: Running "resizefat -r /dev/mapper/store-media" Jun 04 00:28:23 did you ever use save/restore? Jun 04 00:28:38 I was able to get the doctor to work by using the fix here: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover Jun 04 00:28:49 but i was curious to see if anyone had seen that before? Jun 04 00:29:01 preminus: no, i haven't used it on this pre Jun 04 00:29:18 seems unusual to me, never had that happen with preware Jun 04 00:29:45 yeah, it was weird. it kept my patches but removed everything else Jun 04 00:30:14 not sure what would cause that Jun 04 00:30:43 hmmm Jun 04 00:30:55 your apps should reload from your palm profile Jun 04 00:31:42 yeah they will, but it's a hassle lol Jun 04 00:31:48 i had it just how i wanted it Jun 04 00:32:26 what are you trying to do now? Jun 04 00:32:44 it's restoring my profile now Jun 04 00:32:53 oh Jun 04 00:33:56 if you know what the updates were for maybe it was related to one of those things... Jun 04 00:34:17 m0ngr31: your Phone just had a weird uncorrectable fat32 issue that it couldn't solve, so, the "easy" way for Palm is, instead of letting people try to fix that themselves, they happily wipe the partition and create it again :@ Jun 04 00:34:54 NuttyBunny: do you know what could cause that? Jun 04 00:35:59 m0ngr31: The only thing I can think of is that you disconnected the phone while on usb mode and it couldn't recover from that Jun 04 00:37:44 could be that... i had some icelandic music on there and it didn't like some of the characters (at least internalz wouldn't open/see the directories) could that have done it? Jun 04 00:38:34 that's another possibility Jun 04 00:38:44 i installed flash on my pre- with 2.1.0 and i'm not getting the play icon when i go to a site with videos, not sure why Jun 04 00:39:07 m0ngr31: the last possibility is that you may have hardware problems Jun 04 00:39:46 NuttyBunny: it's a brand new pre 2, i hope it's not having hardware problems already haha Jun 04 00:40:04 preminus: did you install the patch to enable it in your browser? Jun 04 00:40:16 yeah **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 04 02:59:56 2011