**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 10 02:59:57 2011 Jun 10 06:41:51 morning Jun 10 12:37:55 hey guys Jun 10 18:19:58 I've a quick question, I have a Pre 2 with no App Catalog access, and a Pre- with paid App Catalog access. Would it be possible to log in to my Palm profile on my Pre-, buy an app, then use Impostah to install the app using the package id Jun 10 18:20:00 ? Jun 10 18:32:10 I think that if you buy an app, any subsequent download appears as "free" in your profile... Jun 10 18:33:03 you don't have app cat access? or just paid app access on the Pre2 Jun 10 18:33:04 ? Jun 10 19:13:07 * PatrickC walks in Jun 10 19:29:22 Where can I make a homebrew App Request? Jun 10 19:31:21 you mean, ask someone else to make an app for you? Jun 10 19:32:18 In PreCentral, in #webos, here, in Palm Developers forums.. Jun 10 19:48:18 Nuttybunny: I don't have app catalog access. I always "Application is not available on your carrier" with direct links, and I get "No applications found" when I go into the App Catalog Jun 10 19:48:36 oh, hey Nuttybunny Jun 10 19:48:47 Why was it you recommended disabling CompCache on 2.1 Pixis? Jun 10 19:56:13 Popple3: you would need to have the same palm profile on both devices Jun 10 19:57:13 rwhitby: Yeah, I know it would involve messing about logging in and out Jun 10 19:58:01 well, using Impostah's ability to log into a profile without wiping the device, it won't be that bad. Jun 10 19:58:10 yeah, I was thinking that Jun 10 19:58:50 just realised I'll have to metadoctor the pre- to 2.1 first as well Jun 10 20:00:38 rwhitby: but basically log into profile on Pre- and buy app, use Impostah to log back in on Pre 2, use Impostah to install app by pkg id. Should work, right? Jun 10 20:01:01 should do Jun 10 20:01:34 reset the profile, but don't restart, on the Pre 2 first. Jun 10 20:01:44 so it doesn't get a wipe request Jun 10 20:01:51 ok Jun 10 20:02:24 awesome. It's really annoying though, Impostah even says I have paid app catalog on my Pre 2. Hopefully this new App Catalog Richard has been talking about will get rid of these restrictions Jun 10 20:02:28 be aware that it may have an unknown affect on your Pre 2 profile. no guarantees. Jun 10 20:03:22 only one way to find out. I'll give it a go when I get back to my apartment, didn't bring my Pre- home this weekend Jun 10 20:08:04 SineOt: I recommended disabling compcache because the installation has about 180Mb of swap (I think 64Mb more than in the Pre, as stated in the scripts). Compcache slows things down, and as the Pixi is already too damn slow, I prefer disabling compcache Jun 10 20:08:40 Hmm… Yeah, I ask because leaving it on over night ran it head first into the never ending Too Many Cards wall Jun 10 20:12:39 Sorry for the delay in response ... I would like to request an app if anyone thinks it could be done ... An app that would read your text messages/emails as they arrive , so you dont have to look at your phone while driving or in the shower .. Jun 10 20:13:06 sorta link Tasker for Android Jun 10 20:13:11 like not lnk Jun 10 20:14:40 CrappyCoder: You're not the one that wants something like that :) Jun 10 20:15:01 YAY .. good to know I am not alone Jun 10 20:16:43 might be able to modify the standard IM/email apps to do that... Jun 10 20:17:02 you'd just have to add in the text-to-speech bits Jun 10 20:17:11 I dont mind giving the app a go if someone can tell me how to intercept txt messages/emails .. or is it not possible ... if it would have to be a hybrid app I am not the man for it lol Jun 10 20:17:27 there is a Speech Dispatcher service that Navit uses .. could it be utilized for this Jun 10 20:33:49 merry birthday wosi Jun 10 20:35:48 aaaah!!! it doesn't work on the Pre!!! Jun 10 20:35:56 * Nuttybunny won't hop today :@ Jun 10 20:45:12 * Nuttybunny HOPS AROUND FRANTICALLY!!! Jun 10 20:45:36 * SineOt gives Nuttybunny some alfalfa :I Jun 10 20:45:41 it just freaking works!! at least on the emu! :D Jun 10 20:56:33 Adora: we make it past the lineending check yet? Jun 10 20:59:08 It isn't fair, today I saw a Palm file with crlf in it :P Jun 10 23:01:40 so.. public beta feeds are gone? Jun 10 23:11:39 looks like it Jun 10 23:11:49 a few days ago, they were still there, but now I get 404s Jun 10 23:12:02 yeah Jun 10 23:12:11 I think the rss feeds were taken down Jun 10 23:12:34 well... the announcements I saw said that 3rd party/app access to them was requested/removed/whatever Jun 10 23:12:44 but the feeds themselves were still up Jun 10 23:12:54 I added htem to my RSS client Jun 10 23:13:04 preware doesn't see them Jun 10 23:13:09 iirc Jun 10 23:13:21 preware the app looks at the files generated from the rss feed Jun 10 23:13:38 ah true Jun 10 23:14:02 * PatrickC wonders what happens if you make an rss reader read the feeds on-device Jun 10 23:16:08 well, the first couple of days, it worked, but the feeds were not updated with new info Jun 10 23:16:20 I just checked, and the feeds 404, so.... Jun 10 23:16:28 ah.. Jun 10 23:16:37 * PatrickC liked public beta Jun 10 23:16:45 me too Jun 10 23:17:17 now we have to be a part of an actual beta program to test 'em :/ Jun 10 23:17:41 wow, reading rwhitby's tweets .. i can't believe it's been 2 years and i still have my original pre Jun 10 23:17:56 on its last legs .. but it was exciting times Jun 10 23:18:23 yeah.. 6/6/2009 ? Jun 10 23:18:44 yeah, and 6/10/2009 when we first figured out novacom Jun 10 23:18:47 and developer mode Jun 10 23:19:05 lol. it took 4 days :P Jun 10 23:19:12 that seems fast to me.. Jun 10 23:19:17 well, i believe the doctor wasn't released for a couple days Jun 10 23:19:24 ah Jun 10 23:19:24 or maybe i didn't get my phone until the 9th Jun 10 23:19:48 * PatrickC got his pixi in early march '10 Jun 10 23:20:06 neat .. re-reading the irc logs brings a tear to my eye Jun 10 23:20:30 from back then? Jun 10 23:20:40 yeah .. rwhitby tweeted about it: http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals/webos-internals.20090611.txt Jun 10 23:22:41 it was all so new and exciting back then :( Jun 10 23:22:55 PatrickC: we got root within hours of the first public doctor release Jun 10 23:23:06 rwhitby: wow Jun 10 23:23:11 right, they did release the doctor that day Jun 10 23:30:38 who's getting a launch-day touchpad? Jun 11 00:04:38 depends on how much this traffic ticket ends up costing me Jun 11 00:04:46 GF is giving me $200 for my bday to use Jun 11 00:04:53 but might go towards court use =( Jun 11 00:06:07 bnceo: what hapened? Jun 11 00:06:12 happened* Jun 11 00:06:14 speeding Jun 11 00:06:25 ah Jun 11 00:06:27 I believe I will get probatio before judgement Jun 11 00:06:41 which means if I'm in the clear for 6 months, it's gone and never happened Jun 11 00:06:42 we got pulled over in a bus today on the way back from camp lol Jun 11 00:06:51 but I need to pay court costs prolly Jun 11 00:06:55 wow. sucks Jun 11 00:07:00 yeah Jun 11 00:07:07 got off with a warning though :) Jun 11 00:07:11 So yeah, the plan was to buy TouchPad in deleware and use the sales tax savings on the TouchStone Jun 11 00:07:57 what's deleware's sales tax? Jun 11 00:08:34 0% Jun 11 00:08:47 Maryland is 7% Jun 11 00:08:48 wow Jun 11 00:08:57 Tennessee is 9.75% Jun 11 00:09:04 ad 8.75% food tax Jun 11 00:09:08 and* Jun 11 00:09:09 wow Jun 11 00:09:11 insanity. ugh Jun 11 00:09:28 yeah :/ Jun 11 00:09:40 I hope at least income and property taxes are low Jun 11 00:09:55 I'll get my touchpad from Palm, Amazon, or Sam's Club Jun 11 00:10:06 idk what those are. I done worry about those yet ;) Jun 11 00:10:22 haha. nice Jun 11 00:10:35 being 15 rules lol Jun 11 00:10:46 So yeah, looks like I'll get the TouchPad later then July 1 Jun 11 00:10:54 maybe they'll push out an update by then. Lol Jun 11 00:10:55 same here sadly Jun 11 00:10:59 haha Jun 11 00:11:03 or lift the NDA :P Jun 11 00:11:25 The NDA better be lifted on July 1 or the week before Jun 11 00:11:33 yeah Jun 11 00:11:46 I don't want to be waiting another 1-2 months again :/ Jun 11 00:11:52 I bet a bunch of people are chomping at the bit Jun 11 00:12:03 yeah Jun 11 00:12:12 they are taking touchpad app submissions iirc Jun 11 00:13:54 I assume so. Especially if they want apps at launch Jun 11 00:14:03 hmm.. didn't realize this was 1hr long lol http://t.co/uyeM0a1 Jun 11 00:14:10 if it's open, I bet dev team is working and burning the midnight oil Jun 11 00:14:25 yep Jun 11 00:14:28 it is. I sat through it Jun 11 00:14:33 lol Jun 11 00:14:34 one of my favs Jun 11 00:14:35 good? Jun 11 00:14:37 ah cool Jun 11 00:14:42 I'm dl'ing it Jun 11 00:14:53 it was great man. I think that's when I felt the real love from Palm to the homebrew Jun 11 00:14:57 Very refreshing Jun 11 00:15:31 awesome Jun 11 00:15:43 now.. I just have to find the time to watch it lol Jun 11 00:16:42 * oil remembers waiting for rwhitby to say "webaws" Jun 11 00:16:50 haha Jun 11 00:16:52 oh oil Jun 11 00:20:36 I think I only slipped once, in the Q&A Jun 11 00:25:20 umm.. why would Govnah work for everything but show Temperature as N/A ? Jun 11 00:25:58 cause the kernel you are running doesn't have a temperature sensor Jun 11 00:26:23 it used to.. Jun 11 00:26:24 ok Jun 11 00:27:27 changelog doesn't show it being removed. Jun 11 00:28:06 that's probably because it wasn't Jun 11 00:28:31 but it used to be there... F14 Tomcat Pre2 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 11 02:59:57 2011