**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jun 16 02:59:57 2011 Jun 16 03:18:05 Tommy finds a new person to troll every night Jun 16 03:18:12 lol Jun 16 03:18:45 Tommy doesn't troll here yet? Jun 16 03:18:56 guess not Jun 16 03:21:03 I hope it stays that way >_> Jun 16 03:21:29 ^^ me too Jun 16 04:57:24 singmajesty: thx for the update Jun 16 10:03:11 hell o :) Jun 16 10:15:38 morning Jun 16 11:16:18 hi Jun 16 13:31:16 I really like the new preware.org Jun 16 13:31:36 did you use enyo or mojo framewark to make it? or just style it yourself with CSS? Jun 16 16:11:39 how can I reset to full defaults and wipe any patches out? Jun 16 16:11:49 i.e. start completely factory clean? Jun 16 16:12:09 jtrucks, use the doctor Jun 16 16:12:15 webos doctor? Jun 16 16:12:18 yup Jun 16 16:12:24 okay, thanks! Jun 16 16:23:09 * jtrucks wiping now. Jun 16 18:34:14 hey all - VZW Pre Plus owner here Jun 16 18:34:45 sprint pre minus owner here Jun 16 18:35:30 Telcel Pre-, AT&T Pre+, Sprint Pre-, Unlocked Pre2, AT&T Pixi Plus here Jun 16 18:35:36 just had my Pre+ replaced for the 8th time... I've had the 1.4.5.1 update done... do I need to dl a new WebOSQI? cause it's not connecting?.. also - should I skip that and go to WebOS 2.*? Jun 16 18:37:29 eh Jun 16 18:37:29 well, i wasn't going to list all my devices xD Jun 16 18:37:35 lol Jun 16 18:37:38 Kamguro: devmode! Jun 16 18:37:46 heh Jun 16 18:37:50 upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart Jun 16 18:37:54 konami code! Jun 16 18:38:12 geesh devmode - sumbitch... after my first 7 you would think i'd remember that Jun 16 18:38:26 I left the ocean... it's too current... Jun 16 18:38:55 o.k. - so should I upgrade to WebOS 2.* or keep it simple? Jun 16 18:39:55 my biggest pain in the ass is resetting all my e-mails - (31 of them) twitter accounts (17) - etc etc etc Jun 16 18:40:08 too many email/twitter accounts is your first problem Jun 16 18:40:09 haha Jun 16 18:41:32 i personally run 145 on my sprint pre- Jun 16 18:43:00 yeah I kept my gf's pre+ on 145 Jun 16 18:44:08 lol yeah - but i wish i didn't have to restart all the games over, reload pandora, re download everything, (247 apps) is there a way to back up that data to transfer it back into a pre once you doc it? Jun 16 18:44:57 yes and no Jun 16 18:45:27 save restore would work for the app data Jun 16 18:45:45 the the apps themselves should reinstall when you log into the palm profile Jun 16 18:45:52 just try to get wifi up quick Jun 16 18:46:33 I've done the save restore - all it ever seems to do is.... nothing... Jun 16 18:47:16 thanks for reminding me about konami.. i'm a moron... peace all Jun 16 18:50:58 well, you have to manually copy the files from the saverestore directory to one on your new phone Jun 16 18:51:13 and don't restore until after the apps are reinstalled Jun 16 19:35:38 good god, something is derped with ssl on this thing :( Jun 16 19:36:05 * rrix is getting some error from the browser when he tries to connect to his self signed site Jun 16 19:36:28 it's not prompting me to trust the cert like it should, and spouting off "error 2035" Jun 16 19:36:39 which is a generic "something went wrong" from libcurl :( Jun 16 19:38:48 * rrix is curious if there is any ssl handshake logging... nothing in /var/log/messages, it seems Jun 16 19:41:35 There's nothing in my server's logs Jun 16 19:47:54 curl -v from the terminal gives me a lead, at least... /me dives in to the googles Jun 16 19:51:54 ~seen rwhitby Jun 16 19:52:08 rwhitby is currently on #webos-internals (19h 54m 7s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 9h 36m 27s, last said: 'morning'. Jun 16 19:53:30 heh Jun 16 19:59:37 * rrix tries to force libcurl in to choosing a ssl version without asking the server per http://curl.haxx.se/mail/archive-2010-03/0069.html Jun 16 19:59:59 I'm wanting to update my patch to a tweak, and can't find and documentation on how to make a tweak.. Jun 16 20:01:32 where would I find that documentation? thanks Jun 16 20:25:59 anyone? Jun 16 20:33:34 sorry Patrick - i wasn't in here b4 u typed ur last Jun 16 20:33:52 I'm wanting to update my patch to a tweak, and can't find and documentation on how to make a tweak.. Jun 16 20:33:56 where would I find that documentation? thanks Jun 16 20:34:29 wow - um that's more advanced than where I'm at.... nothing in Internalz Dox? Jun 16 20:34:54 Internalz wouldn't have anything about that I don't think Jun 16 20:35:52 so you have a patch you made - and is a "tweak" a step up from a patch? Jun 16 20:35:58 I made the "Change Just Type to launch Universe" patch, and want to turn it into a tweak Jun 16 20:36:09 yeah, a tweak is a step up I think Jun 16 20:36:26 I'm tryng to figure out how to access my old pre's usb w/o a palm profile Jun 16 20:36:46 like what... the filesystem? get a terminal? Jun 16 20:36:55 what device os? Jun 16 20:36:57 Oh I get you - so instead of being availlable in the patches - it's in the list of tweaks Jun 16 20:36:59 1.4.5/2.1? Jun 16 20:37:07 ]1.4.5 pre+ Vzw Jun 16 20:37:15 bypass activation Jun 16 20:37:30 its still a patch, but it will do more then just 1 thing Jun 16 20:41:48 found the documentation Jun 16 20:43:58 will that wipe my USB though? Jun 16 20:44:04 where was the dox at? Jun 16 20:44:27 on the dev site Jun 16 20:44:32 Kamguro: if it's the one i've used, it just disables the activation screen Jun 16 20:44:32 http://developer.palm.com Jun 16 20:44:42 zandi: correct Jun 16 20:44:45 devicetool.jar? or has mine been renamed somehow? Jun 16 20:45:48 that's the one Jun 16 20:45:55 so if I have the old Pre= on and it's asking me to sing in to profile.. I turn it off - hold power button etc and webosDoc it with activation bypass?? I thought that when you Doc it - the whole thing gets wiped? Jun 16 20:46:16 don't doctor! Jun 16 20:46:46 lol - I'm not doin a damn thing til someone tells me to Jun 16 20:47:04 when in recovery mode run the devicetool.jar Jun 16 20:47:43 or we can extract the entire directory via novaterm, but that's more complicated :) Jun 16 20:47:57 heh Jun 16 20:48:11 not sure what recovery mode is.. I've only ever doctored a device, then dev mode'd it - then installed preware.. Jun 16 20:48:27 yeah, just do the recovery/flash mode thing and run devicetool Jun 16 20:48:37 take out battery Jun 16 20:48:38 all i know is I need to get all the mp3's i paid for through pandora Jun 16 20:48:44 battery out, hold volume up, plug it in, insert battery, let go of volume up Jun 16 20:48:47 battery out Jun 16 20:48:49 and watch the screen Jun 16 20:48:55 what zandi said :) Jun 16 20:49:08 (i left out the bits about "no battery" and "usb" logos) Jun 16 20:49:09 look for USB symbol Jun 16 20:49:30 if it starts to boot up (says "palm") you did it wrong. Jun 16 20:49:38 usb symbol Jun 16 20:49:49 on screen Jun 16 20:49:59 plug into PC Jun 16 20:50:02 run devicetool.jar Jun 16 20:50:29 where is devicetool.jar - would i have that somewhere? or do I need to DL it Jun 16 20:50:51 you have to write it Jun 16 20:51:02 (jk) Jun 16 20:51:03 FML Jun 16 20:51:06 ass Jun 16 20:51:06 lol Jun 16 20:51:07 hahahahahaha Jun 16 20:51:09 dl it Jun 16 20:51:15 dick Jun 16 20:51:17 lol Jun 16 20:51:20 http://developer.palm.com Jun 16 20:51:26 that site is ur friend Jun 16 20:51:34 hey oilsworkn Jun 16 20:51:38 hey Jun 16 20:51:45 that was good.. i won't admit it ever Jun 16 20:52:00 but that was a good one.. Jun 16 20:52:16 well, /someone/ had to write it initially Jun 16 20:52:29 was probably a PITA for a while though Jun 16 20:54:35 so - I'm assuming it's in Resources... Jun 16 20:55:02 I believe so Jun 16 20:55:04 google Jun 16 20:55:13 Developing on an unactivated device palm Jun 16 20:59:51 awesome... I picked up a spare pre+ (tricked Verizon) - I have several app ideas... have to familiarize myself with the OS... Jun 16 21:00:21 i've heard that dev is actually pretty easy, what with the javascript & everything Jun 16 21:00:26 haven't tried it for myself yet thoguh Jun 16 21:00:27 "tricked" vzw? Jun 16 21:00:34 dev is easy Jun 16 21:00:52 well, how about this. suppose i want to just write something in C then run it from a terminal Jun 16 21:00:59 would that be practically identical to dev on linux? Jun 16 21:01:05 idk Jun 16 21:01:13 I don't know any C (yet) Jun 16 21:01:13 hmmm Jun 16 21:01:18 i guess i'm about to find out, lol Jun 16 21:01:22 #webos for that question :) Jun 16 21:01:54 "from terminal" meaning "palm-launch appid" ? Jun 16 21:01:55 well "tricked" is - I got my Pre+ when they were buy one get one... I was a crackberry b4 that... so my gf broke hers.. I ordered a replacement for mine - sent hers back.. viola 2 working pre+s Jun 16 21:01:55 but #webos-internals seems like a more involved area Jun 16 21:02:03 um. novaterm? Jun 16 21:02:36 zandi: #webos is for development, #webos-internals is for hacking :) Jun 16 21:02:47 that's what i thought Jun 16 21:02:47 I've never used novaterm to launch an app Jun 16 21:03:01 well, i don't care if it's visible to the user, i just want it to run Jun 16 21:03:10 I want to get flash to work on a pre+ - pipedream no? Jun 16 21:03:27 not a pipedream at all Jun 16 21:03:29 not pipedram Jun 16 21:03:32 I run flash on a pre- Jun 16 21:03:40 if you install 2.1 w/ meta-doctor, you can put flash on it Jun 16 21:03:45 2.1 is a necessity though Jun 16 21:03:51 can't get flash with stock 1.4.5 Jun 16 21:04:04 summatusmentis: absolutely can't? or it's totally impractical can't? Jun 16 21:04:32 zandi: as I understand it, there are no binaries available Jun 16 21:04:37 I believe its impossible, but I'm not totally sure Jun 16 21:04:40 so, absolutely can't? Jun 16 21:05:13 i see Jun 16 21:05:26 i think i mistakenly thought source would've been available Jun 16 21:05:32 but it's flash, so there isn't Jun 16 21:05:40 brb.. have to meet with a client Jun 16 21:06:19 cya Jun 16 21:06:37 zandi: right, flash was a partnership w/ adobe, there's no source for it Jun 16 21:11:03 My friend gave me his Palm Pre (P100UEU) upgraded to webOS 2.1.0 but I cannot create a Palm Profile on it. Any ideas? Jun 17 01:41:30 optimistic: did you get it fixed? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jun 17 02:59:56 2011