**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 03 02:59:57 2011
Jul 03 03:05:37 <hp80z> yeah, for call bloxker? dude time to download the patch and look at it and apply it so it allignes and resubmit the fix.
Jul 03 03:06:01 <hp80z> I'm about to return to 1.4x cause nose personal support, no time to look in to it,
Jul 03 03:06:07 <hp80z> got t o go.. lcrz
Jul 03 03:37:09 * phil_bw wanders by
Jul 03 03:52:57 <zandi> so, who got a touchpad?
Jul 03 03:53:15 <summatusmentis> a lot of people, not I
Jul 03 03:53:40 <zandi> me neither, but oh well
Jul 03 03:53:45 <zandi> too busy with other stuff
Jul 03 03:53:52 <summatusmentis> I'm hoping to get one soon
Jul 03 03:53:58 <PatrickC> I didnt.. dev discount is too good
Jul 03 04:10:59 <hbah427> Is there an Enyo Preware?
Jul 03 04:11:05 <Lumiere> not yet
Jul 03 04:11:10 <hbah427> Aww.
Jul 03 04:11:16 <Lumiere> they're working on it
Jul 03 04:11:22 <scoutcamper> hbah427, not yet, why? mojo works just fine on my TP
Jul 03 04:11:26 <hbah427> So just download the Mojo Preware ipk?
Jul 03 04:11:30 <Lumiere> yes
Jul 03 04:11:32 <scoutcamper> yep
Jul 03 04:11:35 <Lumiere> it's TP updated
Jul 03 04:11:40 <Lumiere> 1.7.0 is full screen
Jul 03 04:17:24 <hbah427> Thanks!
Jul 03 04:31:46 <DWarrior> is there a program to play avi files on the pre?
Jul 03 04:32:09 <PatrickC> I don't think so. but I'm not 100% sure
Jul 03 04:34:10 <dwc-> not by default it seems
Jul 03 04:34:23 <dwc-> though, avi is just a container, and it'll more likely depend on what codec is in it
Jul 03 04:35:13 <dwc-> there's an mplayer package that is reported to work... I haven't gotten around to trying it yet
Jul 03 04:35:25 <DWarrior> cool
Jul 03 04:36:21 <SineOt> yeah, avi is just a container (and a terrible one at that)
Jul 03 04:36:33 <SineOt> it depends more on what nightmare they managed to stuff into it than the fact that it's an avi
Jul 03 05:09:49 <Ted__> Good evening, gentalmen.
Jul 03 05:11:35 <Ted__> What Meta-Doctor script would you run for a Sprint Pre with an AT&T Pre Plus comms board, and system board?
Jul 03 05:17:31 <Ted__> rwhitby: Rod, if you're there, I swaped out the System board in my Sprint Pre with an AT&T System board. Keeping that in mind, it also has an AT&T Comms board. I tried running the script: "./scripts/meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0" but my device was not specified for that doctor (I made a Pastebin of it). What script should I be running?
Jul 03 05:18:06 <Ted__> rwhitby: Here is the Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/QhM4heqs
Jul 03 05:18:09 <scoutcamper> Ted__, in that case i believe you have to use the makefile
Jul 03 05:18:28 <scoutcamper> i dont think there are scripts for that  use case
Jul 03 05:18:35 <Ted__> I'm not familiar with a makefile, I'm afraid.
Jul 03 05:19:23 <mshadle> is this the right channel to discuss tethering? or is that #webos ?
Jul 03 05:19:54 <Ted__> scoutcamper: How would I use "the makefile?"
Jul 03 05:20:12 <scoutcamper> Ted__, im not the best makefile guide
Jul 03 05:20:54 <Ted__> scoutcamper: Okay, thank you for pointing me in the right direction, though!
Jul 03 05:23:15 <Ted__> mshadle: I belive you can talk about tethering here. But I couldn't be of any help outside of using freetether.
Jul 03 05:23:19 <rwhitby> Ted__: hang on
Jul 03 05:23:49 <rwhitby> Ted__: if you have an AT&T system board and an AT&T comms board then just run the standard AT&T doctor.
Jul 03 05:24:38 <Ted__> rwhitby: I believe I saw some "Sprint" text in my terminal, though. Did you have a look at the pastebin?
Jul 03 05:24:45 <mshadle> freetether work well for palm pixi plus on verizon (undetected?)
Jul 03 05:24:46 <rwhitby> I did.
Jul 03 05:25:11 <rwhitby> Ted__: the meta-doctor you made expects to be run on a sprint board. you now have an AT&T board.
Jul 03 05:25:24 <rwhitby> Ted__: so you have a stock standard AT&T Pre Plus now.
Jul 03 05:26:02 <Ted__> rwhitby: Okay, so the script I would run is: ./scripts/meta-att-preplus-2.1.0 right? Also, was replacing the System board a correct way to fix the error we were getting yesterday (if you recall it).
Jul 03 05:27:02 <mshadle> there's a typo on the install page :x ha
Jul 03 05:30:07 <rwhitby> Ted__: NO, run a *stock* *standard* AT&T webOS Doctor.  No Meta-Doctor.
Jul 03 05:31:04 <Ted__> rwhitby: Okay, I can just grab that from Pam's website right? Gosh, I feel ashamed...I never ran a normal WebOS Doctor
Jul 03 05:32:00 <oil> heh
Jul 03 05:33:30 <mshadle> can anyone grab this? http://forums.precentral.net/canuck-coding/274461-webos-quick-install-v4-2-3-a.html
Jul 03 05:33:36 <mshadle>  i can't actually register for the forum.
Jul 03 05:34:06 <rwhitby> Ted__: once you have verified operation with the standard webOS Doctor, then think about 2.1.0 upgrade
Jul 03 05:34:10 <rwhitby> mshadle: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2774158/WebOSQuickInstall-4.2.3.jar
Jul 03 05:34:27 <mshadle> thank you sir!
Jul 03 05:34:41 <Ted__> rwhitby: Okay, thanks again for all the help. I'll be back when I get the doctor running.
Jul 03 05:42:38 <Ted__> So, anyone get a Touch Pad yet?
Jul 03 05:43:31 <mshadle> how long should it take to install the preware .ipk through webos quick install?
Jul 03 05:43:42 <mshadle> its almost like something is frozen/not working
Jul 03 05:44:17 <rwhitby> mshadle: use palm-install from the official SDK
Jul 03 05:44:57 <mshadle> argh more docs to look through ;)
Jul 03 05:45:14 <DWarrior> i did it through webos qi, wasn't that slow
Jul 03 05:45:38 <mshadle> yeah im quite sure mine is just messed up.
Jul 03 05:46:42 <DWarrior> can I log the data from freetether?
Jul 03 05:46:42 <DWarrior> to monitor what the users are doing
Jul 03 05:47:13 <rwhitby> DWarrior: if you know Linux netfilter, yes.
Jul 03 05:47:23 <Lumiere> although wpa+password
Jul 03 05:47:34 <Lumiere> and freetether is fairly slow (at least on my pre-
Jul 03 05:48:03 <mshadle> i mainly just got a pixi plus because it was the cheapest way to get an unlimited data plan before verizon cuts them off
Jul 03 05:48:13 <DWarrior> it's better than my tether so far
Jul 03 05:48:28 <DWarrior> i'm not sure what else there is that's faster (i'm on it now)
Jul 03 05:49:17 <mshadle> where is the official sdk
Jul 03 05:50:16 <mshadle> n/m
Jul 03 05:51:27 <Ted__> How do you run a .jar file on linux? I'm having no luck with SunJava.
Jul 03 05:52:12 <rwhitby> java -jar
Jul 03 05:52:25 <rwhitby> always run the doctor on the command line, never click it
Jul 03 05:52:47 <scoutcamper> at least on linux
Jul 03 05:52:55 <rwhitby> on any OS
Jul 03 05:53:16 <Ted__> Alrighty!
Jul 03 05:53:18 <Ted__> Thanks.
Jul 03 05:54:47 <Ted__> If the file is located on my destop, would the command be: java -jar webosdoctorp101ewwatt.jar?
Jul 03 05:56:30 <mshadle> DWarrior: did you have the palm official SDK installed too
Jul 03 05:56:47 <DWarrior> yeah I did
Jul 03 05:56:53 <DWarrior> and the novacom driver
Jul 03 05:57:07 <DWarrior> is your device connected to just charge?
Jul 03 05:57:14 <mshadle> nope. it's as a drive
Jul 03 05:57:24 <mshadle> it detects my device and reads the info.
Jul 03 05:57:32 <mshadle> but.. when it is installing it just sits.
Jul 03 05:59:36 <rwhitby> Ted__: yes
Jul 03 06:00:02 <rwhitby> mshadle: which instructions are you following which told you to mount it as a USB drive?
Jul 03 06:00:14 <Ted__> rwhitby: I get the message "unable to access"
Jul 03 06:00:57 <mshadle> rwhitby: 2 or 3 different places
Jul 03 06:00:58 <rwhitby> Ted__: have you read http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Basic_Linux_Use ?
Jul 03 06:01:13 <rwhitby> mshadle: please show me one which says mount as USB drive
Jul 03 06:01:31 <Ted__> rwhitby: No, but I will read it now, thank you.
Jul 03 06:02:12 <mshadle> oops
Jul 03 06:02:16 <mshadle> haha. one said just charge.
Jul 03 06:02:23 <mshadle> ugh. this is what i hate about mixing my sources
Jul 03 06:02:49 <rwhitby> I believe they all say just charge
Jul 03 06:03:11 <mshadle> fixed it. thanks.
Jul 03 06:03:12 <mshadle> durr
Jul 03 06:04:00 <Ted__> rwhitby: Sudo doesn't work.
Jul 03 06:06:14 <mshadle> freeteher seems boned tho
Jul 03 06:07:29 <mshadle> got it.
Jul 03 06:10:38 <mshadle> sweet. freetether installed, as well.
Jul 03 06:11:53 <Ted__> I'm having no luck with the commands, I tried cd desktop but it's not a directory and I tried sudo, and I don't see anything else o nthe wiki that pertains to running a jar.
Jul 03 06:17:42 <Ted__> rwhitby: I got it! cd/home/theodore/Deasktop java -jar webosdoctorp101ewwatt.jar
Jul 03 06:17:59 <Ted__> :D you teach people while you help them
Jul 03 06:18:13 <rwhitby> that's why I often don't answer.
Jul 03 06:19:22 <Ted__> Well, it keeps people from resoting to ask constantly, instead of trying themselves...clever, I like it.
Jul 03 06:25:54 <DWarrior> is there a way to add extra tabs to the launcher?
Jul 03 06:28:39 <Ted__> DWarrior: Only on WebOS versions previous to 2.o, I believe.
Jul 03 06:29:08 <DWarrior> i'm on 1.4.5
Jul 03 06:30:02 <SonnyDickson> Hey Guys
Jul 03 06:30:24 <SonnyDickson> Does impostah work on the TouchPad yet?
Jul 03 06:30:29 <Ted__> DWarrior: Then, yes, I believe there's a patch in Preware you can install.
Jul 03 06:31:44 <Ted__> rwhitby: http://pastebin.com/s2fudzD1
Jul 03 06:33:02 <rwhitby> Ted__: I'd say the modem card is cactus.
Jul 03 06:33:14 <Ted__> Pardon?
Jul 03 06:33:36 <rwhitby> dead, kaput, an ex-modem-card.
Jul 03 06:34:11 <Ted__> Where is the modem card located? I used the system board from the pre plus...that one was working for sure.
Jul 03 06:34:29 <rwhitby> since you've now not been able to connect to the comms board from two different omap boards, either the comms board is cactus, or you have a systematic error when you put the device back together.
Jul 03 06:35:40 <Ted__> It much be a systematic error...Both the coms board and system board were fine, I even flashed my AT&T pre when the screen cracked.
Jul 03 06:35:53 <Ted__> I think I left the connector the the gesture area loose...could that be it?
Jul 03 06:37:35 <Ted__> rwhitby: when I took the system board from the pre plus, I used the gesture area chip from the sprint pre, could that be an issue?
Jul 03 06:37:54 <rwhitby> no, this is between the CPU and the modem.
Jul 03 06:38:33 <Ted__> rwhitby: But aren't both of those located on the system's board?
Jul 03 06:40:32 <rwhitby> no, the modem is on the comms board
Jul 03 06:41:37 <Ted__> rwhitby: The comms board itself, or the connector below it?
Jul 03 06:41:55 <rwhitby> the modem is the cellular radio, which is on the comms bard
Jul 03 06:42:38 <Ted__> rwhitby: But the comms in the att pre is fine....
Jul 03 06:42:39 <rwhitby> cellular modem, cellular radio, modem chip, comms board, all the same thing
Jul 03 06:42:46 <Ted__> Alrighty.
Jul 03 06:44:00 <Ted__> rwhitby: I'm just going to rebuild the att pre in the sprint pre's body.
Jul 03 06:44:15 <Ted__> rwhitby: all I wanted was the case, anyways.
Jul 03 06:44:36 <Ted__> I seriously think something is wrong with the sprint pre's parts.
Jul 03 07:00:04 <Ted__> rwhitby: can you use the gesture area chip from a pre plus in a pre-?
Jul 03 07:02:00 <chpwn> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Basic_Linux_Use
Jul 03 07:02:09 <chpwn> "The Pre's Linux operating system comes installed with a text editing program called vi. It's a very simple to use text editor."
Jul 03 07:02:22 <chpwn> apparently mediawiki needs a sarcasm tag
Jul 03 07:04:06 <rwhitby> Ted__: no idea
Jul 03 07:04:20 <rwhitby> Ted__: I would expect you can.
Jul 03 07:05:30 <rwhitby> chpwn: yeah, we should tell them to use emacs instead.
Jul 03 07:05:43 <rwhitby> (which is available in optware)
Jul 03 07:05:48 <chpwn> rwhitby: >_<
Jul 03 07:50:35 <Ted__> rwhitby: I rebuilt an AT&T pre in the Sprint Pre body.
Jul 03 08:26:39 <ice8lue> heyho :)
Jul 03 12:05:35 <pantsoftime> mornin
Jul 03 12:06:57 <pantsoftime> i don't think there's any way to save and/or exit prefs in preware on a TP
Jul 03 12:50:03 <rwhitby> pantsoftime: click on the back arrow
Jul 03 12:51:42 <pantsoftime> rwhitby, didn't see one... maybe i missed it, checking again
Jul 03 12:52:08 <pantsoftime> oh wow
Jul 03 12:52:22 <pantsoftime> haha i thought it was just an icon of some kind, it didn't look like the other arrows
Jul 03 12:52:25 <pantsoftime> sorry, nevermind
Jul 03 12:52:29 <pantsoftime> fooled me
Jul 03 16:05:10 <dtz> alright, jw: who else has seen the webos bug where a card gets "stuck"?
Jul 03 16:05:53 <dtz> glitches out and still gets the input
Jul 03 16:06:01 <dtz> so you can scroll, etc from the card view
Jul 03 16:06:18 <dtz> has happened at least since 2.x, incl 3.0
Jul 03 16:06:32 <dtz> (just happened on my touchpad)
Jul 03 16:06:47 <dtz> never heard anyone mention it so just wondering
Jul 03 16:15:07 <chri4242> hi there
Jul 03 16:16:19 <chri4242> a  bit tired of text editors
Jul 03 16:16:36 <chri4242> anyone can tell me how to setup eclipse, to work with services?
Jul 03 16:16:52 <chri4242> I already made it that it works with regular apps
Jul 03 16:21:08 <dtz> we need a good way to en/disable flash on the fly
Jul 03 16:21:15 <dtz> preferrably per-page
Jul 03 16:21:49 <dwc-> glitches out and still gets input?
Jul 03 16:22:00 <dtz> dwc-: yessir
Jul 03 16:22:11 <dwc-> I've had one where the card gets stuck and you have trouble switchign to another card
Jul 03 16:22:11 <dtz> its stuck-- I can move other cards around it
Jul 03 16:22:20 <dtz> but when I tty to move the stuck card
Jul 03 16:22:26 <dtz> I just interact with it
Jul 03 16:22:40 <dtz> incl trying to close it :-(
Jul 03 16:22:51 <dwc-> hm, sounds different than the one I'm thinking of
Jul 03 16:23:00 <dwc-> because I can toss those
Jul 03 16:25:22 <dtz> ah, nope
Jul 03 16:25:32 <dtz> has happened a number of times
Jul 03 16:27:00 <dtz> not sure if on 1.4.5 or not
Jul 03 16:27:09 <pantsoftime> :O
Jul 03 16:27:14 <pantsoftime> its dtz
Jul 03 16:46:36 <pantsoftime> what's the right decrypter tool for the touchpad "collect logs" output? i haven't had luck with bcrypt
Jul 03 16:53:53 <dtz> pantsoftime: hey :D
Jul 03 17:01:45 <pantsoftime> :D
Jul 03 17:03:28 <pantsoftime> i got the file to decrypt without complaint using openssl base64 -d, but it's still just a blob. it decrypts with "-bf-ofb" and "-bf-cfb" without an error but both files are different and i don't have a clue if it's right
Jul 03 17:03:42 <pantsoftime> it's not a gzip or a bzip2
Jul 03 17:03:54 <pantsoftime> bleh
Jul 03 17:04:08 <cat-xeger> Post a sample log somewhere?
Jul 03 17:04:25 <cat-xeger> (pre-decrypt)
Jul 03 17:05:02 <pantsoftime> i'd rather not until i know what's in there
Jul 03 17:05:16 <pantsoftime> that's kinda why i'm curious about how it works
Jul 03 17:05:31 <pantsoftime> there's a boatload of logging options in the tp's diagnostics menu
Jul 03 17:05:35 <cat-xeger> Have you tried something like strings, to just get an idea if there's anything in there
Jul 03 17:05:45 <pantsoftime> yeah it's just garbage
Jul 03 17:07:01 <pantsoftime> someone on p|c was asking someone else to e-mail him logs using the same menu to help diagnose a problem, so i figured it might be public knowledge
Jul 03 17:09:53 <cat-xeger> Heh.
Jul 03 17:10:08 <cat-xeger> Not having a touchpad, I can't exactly create any :)
Jul 03 17:10:56 <cat-xeger> Have you considered something like base64 encoded and mime encoded?
Jul 03 17:16:40 <pantsoftime> yeah i'm pretty sure it's base64
Jul 03 17:16:47 <pantsoftime> at least thats what it looks like, it's in ascii
Jul 03 17:17:08 <cat-xeger> Er... in ascii doesn't mean that it's base64 encoded.
Jul 03 17:17:49 <pantsoftime> you're right, but i'm making the assumption that hp is using openssl
Jul 03 17:18:32 <cat-xeger> openssl offers a whole whack of options, presuming that they're using openssl.
Jul 03 17:18:32 <pantsoftime> the key file that's included has a .ssl extension and openssl is included on the device
Jul 03 17:19:12 <cat-xeger> ... which is reasonable, but I'm not sure how you're jumping from "openssl exists on the device" to "openssl is used for the collect logs"
Jul 03 17:19:13 <RagingMind> dtz, I've seen the card thing a couple times
Jul 03 17:19:15 <pantsoftime> this is true, but base64 and binary are the two that are commonly used and it's not binary. then you just pick the encryption method and it seems to be straightforward
Jul 03 17:19:56 <pantsoftime> the file that the tool produces is a tar file, when you extract the tar file you get a blob with a ".blowfish" file extension and a 128 byte key file with a ".ssl" file extension
Jul 03 17:20:14 <pantsoftime> so that's what started me down the path of trying out openssl
Jul 03 17:20:16 <cat-xeger> Heh.
Jul 03 17:21:11 <cat-xeger> ... so if it's actually a blowfish encrypted blob, I'd suspect that you're out of luck without a key.
Jul 03 17:22:13 <pantsoftime> the key is in the key file i think
Jul 03 17:22:18 <pantsoftime> unless there's two keys
Jul 03 17:22:50 <pantsoftime> anyways not a big deal, just tinkering around
Jul 03 17:23:00 <cat-xeger> Blowfish is symmetric ...
Jul 03 17:24:26 <cat-xeger> At any rate, you'd probably want something like openssl enc -d -a -bf -in <input file> -out <output file>
Jul 03 17:24:36 <cat-xeger> ... but that'll prompt for a password, or should.
Jul 03 17:24:54 <cat-xeger> ... the -a should deal w/ base64 encoding as is.
Jul 03 17:25:28 <cat-xeger> Hm, actually... try also:  -kfile <key>
Jul 03 17:28:00 <pantsoftime> if i don't throw "base64" at it, it gives me a "bad magic number" error
Jul 03 17:28:31 <pantsoftime> but that's the syntax i was using
Jul 03 17:29:01 <pantsoftime> openssl enc -d -bf-ofb -in 20110703_123100.blowfish -kfile secretkey.ssl -out 20110703_123100.decrypted
Jul 03 17:29:10 <pantsoftime> it runs but i can't make sense of the output file
Jul 03 17:29:16 <pantsoftime> only -bf-ofb and -bf-cfb work
Jul 03 17:29:37 <pantsoftime> er with base64 instead of enc, i pasted the wrong thing
Jul 03 17:30:53 <bpadalino> what creates the file ?
Jul 03 17:31:40 <pantsoftime> haven't dug through the device to figure that out yet, it's done from the UI
Jul 03 17:55:20 <krushia_> so... I hit update all button in preware, and it accidentally the whole optware.
Jul 03 17:55:49 <krushia_> guessing it's this new fangled stuff in optware bootstrap update
Jul 03 17:56:07 <krushia_> anyway... I no longer have ipkg-opt
Jul 03 17:59:42 <krushia_> I don't have an /opt either
Jul 03 18:08:56 <Flashpass> i'm trying to setup sftp on my touchpad, but the "sudo -i" command gives me "sudo: not found" - ideas?
Jul 03 18:09:23 <summatusmentis> presumably, suod isn't installed
Jul 03 18:09:44 <summatusmentis> actually, try 'which sudo' in novaterm
Jul 03 18:09:55 <summatusmentis> (which I assume is how you're trying to setup sftp)
Jul 03 18:10:09 <Flashpass> i'm just following the wiki's instructions
Jul 03 18:10:19 <Flashpass> which sudo gave no output
Jul 03 18:10:33 <summatusmentis> interesting
Jul 03 18:11:09 <bpadalino> you're already root when you novaterm in .. no reason for sudo
Jul 03 18:11:13 <summatusmentis> I don't have a TP, so I don't know if sudo is on there
Jul 03 18:11:15 <summatusmentis> but yes, that's true
Jul 03 18:11:55 <summatusmentis> "sudo -i" is just intended to give everyone the same environment, but if you're using novaterm, you should be fine
Jul 03 18:12:19 <Flashpass> ah oh
Jul 03 18:12:22 <Flashpass> ok*
Jul 03 18:13:17 <summatusmentis> although... if sudo isn't installed, then later on, your visudo command will also fail
Jul 03 18:13:29 <Flashpass> so visudo also doesn't work for step 4, I guess i'm trying to get the bare minimum to get this working haha
Jul 03 18:13:32 <Flashpass> yeah exxactly
Jul 03 18:14:22 <summatusmentis> I wonder if they didn't package sudo anymore
Jul 03 18:15:39 <summatusmentis> hey rwhitby, sudo on the touchpad?
Jul 03 18:15:52 <Flashpass> hm, well rod has got it working, i'm not just not as familiar with the process
Jul 03 18:16:21 <scoutcamper> summatusmentis, unless im mistaken, you could probably install sufo through optware
Jul 03 18:16:58 <summatusmentis> Flashpass: what user do you intend to be copying files as?
Jul 03 18:17:07 <summatusmentis> scoutcamper: probably that's ture
Jul 03 18:17:21 <scoutcamper> s/sufo/sudo/
Jul 03 18:17:22 <infobot> scoutcamper meant: summatusmentis, unless im mistaken, you could probably install sudo through optware
Jul 03 18:17:50 <scoutcamper> Flashpass, i assume you have installed optware?
Jul 03 18:18:15 <scoutcamper> i could go get my TP and test, but its like 30ft away d:
Jul 03 18:18:16 <Flashpass> I've installed all the packages automatically installed by preware :)
Jul 03 18:18:42 <summatusmentis> what user do you want to use for sftp?
Jul 03 18:18:47 <scoutcamper> Flashpass, try this ipkg-opt install sudo
Jul 03 18:18:58 <Flashpass> ok
Jul 03 18:19:30 <Flashpass> think that worked
Jul 03 18:19:42 <scoutcamper> then try sudo -i
Jul 03 18:20:33 <krushia_> ahem...
Jul 03 18:21:02 <krushia_> give me back my ipkg-opt
Jul 03 18:21:09 <scoutcamper> ?
Jul 03 18:21:58 <krushia_> preware nuked optware on my pre+ with an update
Jul 03 18:22:03 <krushia_> today
Jul 03 18:35:06 <Flashpass> erg, I keep getting "No supported authentication methods available" when trying to sftp into the device
Jul 03 19:37:17 <cryptk> Flashpass, have you set up pubkeys
Jul 03 19:38:53 <Flashpass> cryptk: I got it worked out, thanks :)
Jul 03 19:50:55 <chpwn> yaaaay
Jul 03 19:50:57 <chpwn> finally built sdlterminal
Jul 03 19:51:09 <chpwn> (and i still am completely clueless at makefiles
Jul 03 20:13:46 <chpwn> Ignore the warning messages about needed .so files. << oh, okay
Jul 03 20:29:37 <chris4242> anyone knows how to get a debug view for services?
Jul 03 20:30:18 <chris4242> trying to configure eclips, but it seems to only be able to do regular apps
Jul 03 21:29:32 <BloodyGenes> hi there
Jul 03 21:30:07 <BloodyGenes> could someone help me please, with the installation of preware? I just need to know what version i should install on a palm pre, webos 1.45
Jul 03 21:30:20 <BloodyGenes> i see there 1.50 and 1.70
Jul 03 21:30:44 <BloodyGenes> i686 and arm both. what should i choose?
Jul 03 21:32:24 <cryptk> armv7
Jul 03 21:32:33 <cryptk> latest version available
Jul 03 21:32:44 <cryptk> so 1.7.0
Jul 03 21:32:46 <BloodyGenes> ok, many thanks!
Jul 03 22:14:21 <PatrickC> rwhitby: ping quick meta-doc question
Jul 03 22:14:37 <PatrickC> or anyone that can answer it
Jul 03 22:45:24 <shep1234> anyone know if any of the linphone maintainers are around? I would really like to get hold of a copy to test.
Jul 03 22:50:36 <bnceo> sup sup guys
Jul 03 23:39:29 <rwhitby> summatusmentis: sudo is not required for sftp
Jul 03 23:39:43 <rwhitby> anyone looking for it is following obsolete instructions
Jul 04 00:40:11 <Flashpass> sorry for repost, has anyone experienced the audio cutting out on their tp completely? I just finished setting up ssh/sftp although I realize it's likely unrelated...
Jul 04 01:08:20 <bnceo> Any reason why my 2.1 Pre minus won't work with the TouchPad via SMS but will do phone calls?
Jul 04 01:08:33 <cryptk> yes
Jul 04 01:08:46 <cryptk> 2.1 does not support the MAP bluetooth profile
Jul 04 01:08:55 <cryptk> same reason my Pre2 won't do it (yet)
Jul 04 01:09:11 <cryptk> future software update for the Pre2 will enable MAP
Jul 04 01:09:38 <bnceo> IC IC. so for now, only the Veer will do it
Jul 04 01:10:21 <bnceo> btw, HP Veer is super buggy
Jul 04 01:10:28 <bnceo> like wow. almost unsable
Jul 04 01:10:38 <bnceo> not to mention it can't pick up all the ID3 tags of my mp3s
Jul 04 01:18:52 <bnceo> beware. oil_pre is in the house :o
Jul 04 02:09:56 <summatusmentis> rwhitby: where would new instructions be?
Jul 04 02:14:15 <rwhitby> summatusmentis: the HomePage link in the package description should always be the first place people look
Jul 04 02:14:48 <summatusmentis> rwhitby: ah, the person I was helping was looking at a wiki page
Jul 04 02:15:11 <rwhitby> for openssh, the homepage link points to a wiki page
Jul 04 02:17:22 <summatusmentis> is anyone maintaining the wiki?
Jul 04 02:20:26 <rwhitby> wikis are maintained by the community
Jul 04 02:20:38 <rwhitby> so the answer is "yes, you and I both are"
Jul 04 02:21:09 <summatusmentis> I didn't know if someone had taken it on or not
Jul 04 02:21:28 <summatusmentis> Is there a good mechanism for knowing what's outdated and what isn't?
Jul 04 02:21:57 <rwhitby> the last change date is usually a good indicator
Jul 04 02:22:06 <rwhitby> but things can be correct and stable too
Jul 04 02:22:22 <rwhitby> the Discussion page for each wiki page is where you raise issues.
Jul 04 02:22:36 <summatusmentis> ok, cool
Jul 04 02:24:01 <summatusmentis> I'll see what I can work on in all my spare time
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