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Jul 16 03:03:13 <cxreg> patches moved from gitorious to github?
Jul 16 03:04:43 <cxreg> oh i didnt know that sqlite issue was more pervasive than just pondnotes
Jul 16 03:04:46 <cxreg> interesting
Jul 16 03:04:55 <cxreg> is that "the sqlite bug" that has been mentioned in the dev forum?
Jul 16 03:05:59 <cxreg> that precentral post talks about files getting deleted but that is not what i experienced
Jul 16 03:06:14 <cxreg> what i saw was that it decided to pick a new filename, but left the old one there
Jul 16 03:06:28 <cxreg> and renaming the old one over the new one "fixed" it
Jul 16 04:18:48 <dgathright> So I have a Pre- with a GSM comm board and I'd like to get the phone up & running (I don't care about cell connectivity).  I tried flashing with the Sprint 1.4.5 doctor, and it complains about the SIM card.  Then I tried to meta-doctor with meta-att-preplus-2.1.0, and that process errors with "TOKEN MISMATCH: Failed to find match for Carrier information. Prevent user from flashing"
Jul 16 04:18:52 <dgathright> Any other ideas?
Jul 16 04:19:19 <dgathright> Really don't want to take apart my phones again just to get some pictures off the old one. :\
Jul 16 04:22:04 <dgathright> Hmm.... I do have a Pre+ lying around, can I use that Verizon comm board in the Pre-, but then not sure what I would doctor with
Jul 16 04:33:22 <dgathright> PatrickC: It's aliiiiiiiiive!
Jul 16 04:40:21 <PatrickC> YEAH!!!!!!
Jul 16 04:41:11 <PatrickC> once I get a T5, I'm doin mine
Jul 16 04:41:24 <PatrickC> tomorrow :D
Jul 16 04:43:00 <rwhitby> dgathright: there's a script for that situation
Jul 16 04:43:19 <dgathright> rwhitby: Oh yeah?
Jul 16 04:43:38 <rwhitby> dgathright: and you can use the Meta-Doctor 'backup' target to get the contents of the USB partition if that's all you want
Jul 16 04:43:55 <rwhitby> dgathright: meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0
Jul 16 04:43:56 <dgathright> ah, cool, yeah, that's really all I want at this point
Jul 16 04:44:32 <PatrickC> dgathright: didn't it work?
Jul 16 04:45:33 <dgathright> PatrickC: The Pre2 w/ Sprint board works perfect.  Just trying to get my old Pre- (now w/ GSM) up & running to get stuff off the USB partition
Jul 16 04:45:40 <dgathright> and maybe still use it for dev
Jul 16 04:45:44 <PatrickC> ah
Jul 16 04:45:56 <PatrickC> will it work without a comms board? my guess.. no?
Jul 16 04:46:20 <summatusmentis> he has a comms board from the pre2
Jul 16 04:46:34 <dgathright> Nope, the comm board is required for battery power
Jul 16 04:46:40 <PatrickC> ah
Jul 16 04:46:53 <rwhitby> dgathright: meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0
Jul 16 04:47:06 <PatrickC> I won't need my pre after I take the comms board out
Jul 16 04:47:11 <PatrickC> touchscreen broken
Jul 16 04:47:21 <dgathright> rwhitby: I'll give that one a shot now. thx
Jul 16 04:49:59 <dgathright> Has anyone gotten a look at the Pre3 innards? I'm guessing we won't be able to build a Sprint Pre3 b/c of the different hardware design.  Would be neat though
Jul 16 04:50:57 <summatusmentis> they're completely incompatible, as I understand it
Jul 16 04:51:38 <dgathright> Figured
Jul 16 04:52:26 <summatusmentis> I think both the wiring/comms board size are different, let alone the casing
Jul 16 04:53:24 <rwhitby> electrically and physically incompatible
Jul 16 04:53:30 <PatrickC> what about CDMA trickery?
Jul 16 04:54:23 <summatusmentis> I'm fairly certain that's pretty illegal
Jul 16 04:54:40 <PatrickC> really? man...
Jul 16 04:54:51 <PatrickC> didn't know that
Jul 16 04:54:58 <dgathright> You say that like it's a bad thing. :p
Jul 16 04:54:59 <summatusmentis> I'm not 100% sure, but I think so
Jul 16 04:56:00 <scoutcamper> PatrickC, assuming they are using a qualcom modem, it would require QPST, which is a several thousand dollar program, but that aside, im almost positive that would be illegal
Jul 16 04:56:21 <PatrickC> yeah.. don't have that much money
Jul 16 04:58:56 <PatrickC> rwhitby: is there a way to put a pre with a broken touchscreen into dev mode w/o a doctor?
Jul 16 04:59:07 <PatrickC> that's already activated
Jul 16 05:02:14 <cat-xeger> patrickc - I thought it was possible via the cli, but can't find the reference, nad must pass out
Jul 16 05:02:41 <PatrickC> how do you get cmd line access when not in dev mode?
Jul 16 05:06:56 <rwhitby> openssh
Jul 16 05:07:09 <PatrickC> documented on the wiki?
Jul 16 05:07:19 <PatrickC> can it be done w/o using the touchscreen?
Jul 16 05:07:23 <rwhitby> do you have it installed and working already?
Jul 16 05:07:33 <PatrickC> it is not in dev mode
Jul 16 05:07:45 <PatrickC> I have no homebrew on it at all
Jul 16 05:07:52 <PatrickC> I just want to get the tokens from it
Jul 16 05:08:21 <rwhitby> memboot and tokens --list
Jul 16 05:08:45 <PatrickC> ok, thanks rwhitby!
Jul 16 05:09:02 <PatrickC> I'll do that tomorrow before I take the comms board out, just to have a backup
Jul 16 05:09:17 <PatrickC> as they aren't needed for the metadoctor anymore.. :)
Jul 16 05:48:24 <nburn> installed f104 on my pre2. Got it running screenstate3 .. 300mhz to 1.1ghz at 54 48 32 25
Jul 16 05:49:05 <PatrickC> cool
Jul 16 05:49:09 <PatrickC> you like?
Jul 16 05:49:20 * PatrickC runs really fast.. F14
Jul 16 05:50:15 <dgathright> Boo.  Doctored the GSM Pre- with meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre-2.1.0 and it's also complaining about no SIM card.  Any way to bypass that during the boot process?
Jul 16 05:50:22 <nburn> so far so good. im surprised by how much i've been able to lower the voltage.
Jul 16 05:50:40 <PatrickC> dgathright: on the no-sim screen
Jul 16 05:50:48 <PatrickC> hit #* on the physical kb
Jul 16 05:50:55 <PatrickC> should bring up the dialer
Jul 16 05:51:28 <PatrickC> then type #*DEVMODE# and hit go
Jul 16 05:51:41 <dgathright> k.  it's rebooting now, will try in a sec
Jul 16 05:51:48 <PatrickC> ok
Jul 16 05:51:53 <dgathright> or, rather, in 10 minutes, once the Pre- actually boots. =P
Jul 16 05:52:00 <PatrickC> haha
Jul 16 05:52:13 <PatrickC> I'll be happy to have a sprint pre2 tomorrow
Jul 16 05:52:36 <dgathright> Having a phone that now boots in under 1 minute (let alone 10 minutes) is pretty damn awesome
Jul 16 05:52:51 <PatrickC> under 1 min? what kernel are you runin?
Jul 16 05:53:03 <PatrickC> my pre2 wifi only takes longer then that (or so it seems)
Jul 16 05:53:08 <PatrickC> never actually timed it
Jul 16 05:53:08 <e-gadget-guy> Hi guys
Jul 16 05:53:13 <PatrickC> hey e-gadget-guy
Jul 16 05:53:29 <dgathright> Nah, mine has always been stock stuff, and it boots in under 1 minute
Jul 16 05:53:35 <PatrickC> wow
Jul 16 05:53:36 <e-gadget-guy> I just got done MDing my pre 2...
Jul 16 05:53:41 <PatrickC> any patches?
Jul 16 05:53:45 <dgathright> no
Jul 16 05:53:48 <PatrickC> e-gadget-guy: awesme
Jul 16 05:53:58 <PatrickC> dgathright: ah, I patch to oblivion :P
Jul 16 05:54:05 <e-gadget-guy> Yes. installing patches and some apps back
Jul 16 05:54:07 <PatrickC> like 35.. give or take
Jul 16 05:54:36 <PatrickC> and I OC/optware
Jul 16 05:54:50 <e-gadget-guy> I think i have more than that...
Jul 16 05:55:05 <e-gadget-guy> on my +
Jul 16 05:55:30 <dgathright> PatrickC: So I got the dialer up
Jul 16 05:55:41 <dgathright> But it only lets me type in #* and digits
Jul 16 05:55:43 <PatrickC> ok
Jul 16 05:55:45 <dgathright> no alpha
Jul 16 05:55:46 <PatrickC> yeah
Jul 16 05:55:57 <PatrickC> use the digets to spell DEVMODE
Jul 16 05:56:02 <dgathright> ahhhh
Jul 16 05:56:07 <dgathright> <---- dummy
Jul 16 05:56:17 <dwc-> yea, pretend it's a dummyphone
Jul 16 05:56:18 <PatrickC> lol
Jul 16 05:56:44 <e-gadget-guy> yep
Jul 16 05:57:48 <dgathright> Ah, so this takes it only into developer mode?  Any way to get it into a full boot?
Jul 16 05:58:30 <PatrickC> toggle the dev mode switch
Jul 16 05:58:36 <PatrickC> it'll bypass the activation scene
Jul 16 05:58:38 <rwhitby> boot time differences mainly depend on number of apps installed, not patches.
Jul 16 05:58:53 <PatrickC> rwhitby: really? ah
Jul 16 05:59:15 <dgathright> Ok, toggled it to "off", restarting...
Jul 16 05:59:21 <rwhitby> dgathright: you may need to off, reboot, on, reboot
Jul 16 05:59:59 <dgathright> I do like that all my Pre boot screens are the penguin now. :)
Jul 16 06:00:30 <e-gadget-guy> MDd huh
Jul 16 06:00:40 <rwhitby> it will be intereting at the next dev day to see how many devices boot the penguin
Jul 16 06:01:18 <PatrickC> rwhitby: does the tp have a meta-doctor yet? haven't checked. as I don't need one /yet/
Jul 16 06:01:25 <rwhitby> certainly does
Jul 16 06:01:30 <dgathright> Hrmm... back to SIM Sim card screen
Jul 16 06:01:32 <nburn> i like the f104 boot screen, you actually get to see stuff scroll by!
Jul 16 06:01:41 <PatrickC> dgathright: do the same thing again
Jul 16 06:01:55 <PatrickC> except, you will toggle to "on" and reboot
Jul 16 06:02:00 <PatrickC> rwhitby: cool
Jul 16 06:02:17 <dgathright> oky doky.  rebooting....
Jul 16 06:02:22 <e-gadget-guy> I need to find a webos event to go to in the SouthEast
Jul 16 06:03:31 <PatrickC> rwhitby: when making a frankenpre2, does the pre- need to be signed into a profile first?
Jul 16 06:04:01 <PatrickC> and, like, able to make calls.. or just like "transferred my number to its ESN"
Jul 16 06:04:07 <dwc-> I think there was something in atlanta
Jul 16 06:04:18 <rwhitby> you should always start with two working devices
Jul 16 06:04:40 <PatrickC> rwhitby: it works. as in its activated now...
Jul 16 06:04:47 <PatrickC> but the touchscreen is broke
Jul 16 06:04:56 <PatrickC> so signing into a profile would be kinda hard
Jul 16 06:05:08 <rwhitby> has that comms board ever been used in a profile?
Jul 16 06:05:14 <PatrickC> yes
Jul 16 06:05:23 <rwhitby> it'll be fine then
Jul 16 06:05:25 <PatrickC> its logged into a profile now
Jul 16 06:05:27 <PatrickC> ok good
Jul 16 06:05:48 <PatrickC> bought it off ebay for 15, fell out of the guys pocket and cracked the screen
Jul 16 06:05:52 <dgathright> Yay, I'm in to a full boot.  Thanks rwhitby
Jul 16 06:05:57 <nburn> in my experience on sprint, the comm board must be activated before installing it in the pre2.
Jul 16 06:06:01 <rwhitby> if you get the backup restore problem, just use that profile on another device to turn off backups first
Jul 16 06:06:21 <PatrickC> I'm not using the profile from the device
Jul 16 06:06:28 <rwhitby> nburn: correct, there is no sprint provisioning support in webos 2.x, as detailed on the wiki page.
Jul 16 06:06:30 <PatrickC> its someone else's profile that's on it currently
Jul 16 06:06:47 <dgathright> And yup, the USB partition is still there, untouched.  *does happy dance*
Jul 16 06:06:50 <PatrickC> I'm gonna use my profile (already a 2.1.0 profile)
Jul 16 06:07:00 <rwhitby> PatrickC: no issue then
Jul 16 06:07:09 <PatrickC> ok good. thx rwhitby
Jul 16 06:07:49 <PatrickC> Impostah will log out of a palm profile without erasing the data from a phone? correct?
Jul 16 06:08:23 <e-gadget-guy> That's Cool PatrickC... Did I mention I love Webos-internals. I 'showed some $$ love recently...
Jul 16 06:10:13 <dgathright> yeah, after how (mostly) pain-free it's been to do all this hacking today, definitely time for me to throw some more money in the coffer. webos-internals ftw! :)
Jul 16 06:11:44 <PatrickC> hmm.. I thought Impostah did profile logout w/o erasing stuff...
Jul 16 06:21:21 <dgathright> yay, now I have webos2.1 running on both phones. In retrospect, not sure why I waited this long.
Jul 16 06:24:24 <e-gadget-guy> I was going to say that word for word Dgathright
Jul 16 06:27:04 <sosborn> I got preware on my touchpad, but the packge lists are empty.  Is this expected?
Jul 16 06:27:08 <e-gadget-guy> well I also have to go to bed - sleeping in this chair is not comfortable
Jul 16 06:28:33 <e-gadget-guy> nyte
Jul 16 09:52:27 <Kraken> Hullo
Jul 16 09:53:26 <Kraken> zsoc been around lately?
Jul 16 10:03:30 <rwhitby> no
Jul 16 10:04:02 <Kraken> Drat.
Jul 16 10:04:22 <Kraken> Wanted to talk to him about a byte scrobbling project we worked on a while back.
Jul 16 10:04:52 <Kraken> If he comes by, tell him I was around.
Jul 16 12:31:19 <noradtux> hello :)
Jul 16 12:45:11 <cryptk> hola noradtux
Jul 16 12:48:07 <noradtux> hi, I am looking for some advice with the widk
Jul 16 12:48:43 <noradtux> I somehow broke it on my system
Jul 16 13:03:39 <cryptk> well... what would ya do that for?
Jul 16 13:06:35 <noradtux> updating to try Xecutah :D
Jul 16 13:06:54 <noradtux> I guess it's somehow related to qemu on my system
Jul 16 13:07:27 <cryptk> noradtux, Xecutah, Xserver and Xterm are all available in the testing feeds
Jul 16 13:07:51 <cryptk> they are far along enough now that they will be regularly updated in the testing feed, so no need to build them from source yourself unless you are doing dev work on them
Jul 16 13:07:52 <noradtux> yes, now they are .. they arrived right after I messed with my build-system
Jul 16 13:07:56 <cryptk> heh
Jul 16 13:08:30 <noradtux> and they are already running .. executing KDE4 on the TP is rather slow, though ;)
Jul 16 13:08:38 <cryptk> well, my recommendation, because I have no clue what you did, and you haven't provided any details on what you did... would be to nuke it and rebuild it from scratch
Jul 16 13:08:50 <cryptk> there is no hardware accel
Jul 16 13:08:58 <noradtux> I know
Jul 16 13:09:02 <noradtux> :)
Jul 16 13:09:36 <noradtux> but having a x-server on the device gives massiv opotunity to play around with stuff
Jul 16 13:11:46 <cryptk> yep
Jul 16 14:11:31 <gadget> fair AM
Jul 16 14:13:17 <gadget> actually its a good morning - I now have MD 2.1.0 on my + and my 2 as of last PM.
Jul 16 14:15:13 <Loudergood> nice
Jul 16 14:15:20 <Loudergood> that seems to be going around lately
Jul 16 14:16:15 <gadget> I know. I was here when that other guy D=something said what I was about to
Jul 16 14:17:44 <gadget> I was waiting to see if the rumors were true, then I dicided I can always get the real thing IF it ever comes
Jul 16 14:18:07 <gadget> decided... real 2.1 for my 2....
Jul 16 14:20:47 <Loudergood> right
Jul 16 14:23:35 <gadget> Anyone using and +kernals on a pre2 with MD 2.1.0?
Jul 16 15:36:55 <noradtux> I just wolved my problem with the widk: I downgraded qemu from 0.14.1 to 0.12.5 (debian/squeeze+sid 64bit)
Jul 16 15:38:18 <gadget> wha?
Jul 16 15:42:23 <gadget> lol leaving but not on a jet plane.
Jul 16 15:46:49 <Loudergood> interesting
Jul 16 15:46:57 <Loudergood> downside to using sid there I guess
Jul 16 15:53:31 <noradtux> I guess it's a bug in qemu. the conftest-executable for the pthread-checks in configure of glib-2.0 seg-faults with qemu 0.14
Jul 16 16:12:08 <Lumiere> anyone know what a black box in the upper right of the touch pad might be for?
Jul 16 16:12:39 <Lumiere> I have an odd box up there with nothing in it covering my send button of my email message
Jul 16 16:12:51 <gadeget_afk> sorry light guy, I my TP hasn't arrived yet. wich I could help.
Jul 16 16:15:46 <noradtux_tp> Lumiere: that box isn't there on my tp
Jul 16 16:16:00 <Lumiere> it looks like the notifications box gone bad
Jul 16 16:16:25 <Lumiere> doin a restart
Jul 16 16:16:50 <noradtux_tp> that's always a good idea ;-)
Jul 16 16:17:05 <PatrickC> what's up?
Jul 16 16:18:39 <domey> are there synergy messaging plugins for webOS 3.0 available ?
Jul 16 16:22:38 <PatrickC> not sure
Jul 16 16:27:58 <RavenII> $60 for a 6 month old, clean palm pre plus...?
Jul 16 16:28:01 <RavenII> yay or nay?
Jul 16 16:28:20 <PatrickC> how's the condition? link?
Jul 16 16:47:49 <RavenII> PatrickC: supposedly clean, I'm going to take a look at it in a bit
Jul 16 18:14:15 <bnceo> hey everyone
Jul 16 18:42:58 <ice8lue> hey guys
Jul 16 18:43:55 <sosborn> How do I resize /opt?
Jul 16 18:44:18 <sosborn> I ran resize2fs on /media/cryptofs/optware.ext3 and rebooted, but it diddn't seem to work
Jul 16 19:29:35 <sosborn> nvm, figured it out.
Jul 16 19:55:52 <RichT23> Hoot
Jul 16 19:56:53 <RichT23> whats the name of the multi messenger app?
Jul 16 20:26:41 <NuttyBunny> RichT23, Mundu? IM+?
Jul 16 20:29:44 <zomg> Bothering palm support about my app catalog not showing almost anything issue... just like the last time they claim they can't change my access country :P
Jul 16 20:39:42 <RichT23> NuttyBunny: arr it was Messaging Plugins
Jul 16 20:39:58 <RichT23> they seem to have not been touched for some tiem
Jul 16 20:41:17 <RichT23> humm, im just after more im support
Jul 16 20:41:45 <RichT23> NuttyBunny: Ill have a look at Mundu
Jul 16 20:51:27 <NuttyBunny> No, the MP are not available for the TP yet
Jul 16 20:55:48 <bnceo> yet? meaning coming?
Jul 16 20:55:50 <bnceo> :o
Jul 16 21:01:54 <NuttyBunny> bnceo: Or course! What exactly did you expect? that I'd let them just die??? :P
Jul 16 21:02:02 <bnceo> lol
Jul 16 21:03:38 <NuttyBunny> In fact, this weekend should be fun. If I manage to get mediacapture running and approved in photofun, i'll use that, if not, this weekend should be the one I release at least the free version (it's almost complete).  After that I will give it another shot at compiling, and hoping I can sort out the libtasn1 bug that I have with the encrypted connections :)
Jul 16 21:12:21 <rwhitby> morning
Jul 16 21:14:22 <rwhitby> sosborn: did you add the instructions for resizing /opt to the wiki?
Jul 16 21:17:48 <NuttyBunny> morning rwhitby
Jul 16 21:18:58 <noradtux_tp> good evenign
Jul 16 21:23:54 <NuttyBunny> hey
Jul 16 21:25:51 <sosborn> rwhitby: I'm not sure if the way I did it is really the 'right way' or not.  I just did resize2fs on the file, rebooted and nothing.  So I did resize2fs on /dev/loop0
Jul 16 21:28:03 <noradtux_tp> sosborn: if you try to make the FS larger you need to make the file that contains the FS larger before resizing the fs
Jul 16 21:45:55 <rrix> NuttyBunny: Speaking of the MP, have you had the chance to look at the linking issues I was having with them last week?
Jul 16 21:46:40 <nburn> someone blaming preware for bricking his TP: http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/288502-well-i-bricked-my-touchpad.html
Jul 16 21:57:53 <NuttyBunny> rrix: I don't remember.. I assume the answer could be no? ;)
Jul 16 21:58:02 <rrix> heh, ok
Jul 16 22:13:34 <rwhitby> nburn: actually, he's blaming WOSQI, not Preware.
Jul 16 22:18:22 <NuttyBunny> rwhitby: He didn't specify, hence my question there :)
Jul 16 22:18:40 <rwhitby> and since he gets a boot logo, it's not bricked.
Jul 16 22:19:38 <NuttyBunny> that's the reason I always use the bootstrap method
Jul 16 22:31:05 <rwhitby> NuttyBunny: I doubt that the temporary non-bootable nature of his device actually has anything to do with using WOSQI or installing Preware.
Jul 16 22:34:04 <NuttyBunny> rwhitby: I could only assume it was something to do with restarting it with an open filesystem, but I've seen that webOS always tests the fs for errors, then tries to fix it, then formats if it can't fix it, so the worst that could had happened is that he should've gotten a wiped device :)
Jul 16 22:34:57 <rwhitby> NuttyBunny: I suspect it's a combination of a boot hang, and a PC with bad novacom or USB drivers not seeing the device which it reconnects after the memboot.
Jul 16 22:35:12 <rwhitby> As always, people who run the doctor by double-clicking it are flying blind.
Jul 16 23:04:42 <RichT23> =)
Jul 16 23:05:21 * RichT23 was quite impressed the first timei ran the doctor via cl
Jul 16 23:05:57 <NuttyBunny> yep, it tells you *almost* everything :D
Jul 16 23:06:35 <RichT23> yup
Jul 16 23:07:07 <RichT23> im a unix guy and it was light up mind time
Jul 16 23:07:21 <RichT23> shame im so lazzy / busy with other stuff
Jul 16 23:07:47 <RichT23> i really fancy trying webos with woof
Jul 16 23:10:03 <NuttyBunny> wait till you dare to enter recovery mode and do stuff inside :D
Jul 16 23:10:26 <RichT23> whats recovery mode?
Jul 16 23:10:31 <NuttyBunny> (and brick your webos device)... and fix it without the Doctor!  It's SO great!
Jul 16 23:11:12 <NuttyBunny> it's the "big usb logo" mode, turn off, take all cables and battery, hold X or volume up, plug cable, plug battery
Jul 16 23:11:36 <RichT23> arr oki ya
Jul 16 23:11:37 <NuttyBunny> think of it like a "linux single" mode in redhat
Jul 16 23:11:41 <RichT23> i did have that issue
Jul 16 23:12:05 <RichT23> well a little while back my pixi just died
Jul 16 23:12:24 <NuttyBunny> (you still have to boot it with the doctor install image to be able to do something)
Jul 16 23:12:43 <RichT23> sent it back to palm and they nicly fixed it but programed it to a diffrent operatos version
Jul 16 23:13:14 <RichT23> i had fun trying tomake it work again
Jul 16 23:13:33 <RichT23>          ended up sending it back again
Jul 16 23:14:19 <RichT23> as i could not find a way to make it work with my network
Jul 16 23:14:32 <RichT23> still have no idea why it would not work
Jul 16 23:14:47 <RichT23> it was locked to vodaphone spain!
Jul 16 23:15:29 <RichT23> i flashed it back to the correct UK version but no luck
Jul 16 23:16:32 <NuttyBunny> ah, yes, you have to unlock it, I read that everytime you send your device for repairs they (re)lock it to whichever carrier they have in their registers for the device
Jul 16 23:17:02 <RichT23> ya!
Jul 16 23:17:40 <RichT23> i never looked in to how to unlock emm
Jul 16 23:17:52 <RichT23> im sure it can not be that hard
Jul 16 23:18:43 <NuttyBunny> there are a couple of companies that unlock them via software, about $25 if I remember correctly, or talk to GuyFromNam in PreCentral, he may hook you up with a discount
Jul 16 23:20:11 <RichT23> arr yes you can pay =) its not something im to fused about becouse have have a sim for the correct network anyhow
Jul 16 23:20:48 <RichT23> i only looked into it when Palm sent it back locked to the worng network
Jul 16 23:21:38 <RichT23> I would like to get msn and othe such apps working again though
Jul 16 23:22:00 <RichT23> but the old messaging plugins seem to not want to install
Jul 16 23:22:37 <RichT23> have only tried vi quick installer though
Jul 16 23:23:13 <NuttyBunny> you have to use quick installer 3.x for that version
Jul 16 23:23:18 <RichT23> are the packages redhat based?
Jul 16 23:23:44 <RichT23> i have WebOSQuickInstall-4.2.3.jar
Jul 16 23:24:04 <oc80z> no.
Jul 16 23:24:33 <marclh> does anyone's touchpad reconnect to their Pre via bluetooth after going out of range? I always have to manually reconnect it for the connection to be re-established
Jul 16 23:25:04 <RichT23> ar also 3.1.4
Jul 16 23:25:17 <NuttyBunny> RichT23: what packages?? Just trust me, look for Webos Quick Install 3.x in PreCentral and use that to install the ipk files :)
Jul 16 23:25:55 <RichT23> oki, ill use the old version instead... i just got the new one today and used that
Jul 16 23:27:55 <rwhitby> NuttyBunny: you should make them palm-install'able
Jul 16 23:29:44 <NuttyBunny> rwhitby: I should make them compile properly first ;)
Jul 16 23:29:49 <RichT23> arrrr i see, this quick install shows errors
Jul 16 23:30:26 <RichT23> maybe the issue is the advansed patch i already installed
Jul 16 23:30:33 <RichT23> i have chuck errors =)
Jul 16 23:30:49 <RichT23> hunk errors even
Jul 16 23:31:41 <NuttyBunny> Ah, errors, errors... I always doctored and the first thing to install was the MP's, that way no patch could mess around the install
Jul 16 23:32:53 <Vince42> rwhitby: u online? :)
Jul 16 23:33:12 <rwhitby> yep
Jul 16 23:33:45 <RichT23> ya i seem to remember lots of patches interfeering with each other
Jul 16 23:34:24 <marclh> Does anyone's touchpad reconnect to their Pre via bluetooth after going out of range? I always have to manually reconnect it for the connection to be re-established.
Jul 16 23:36:46 <NuttyBunny> marclh: no need to repeat the question :)   I think no one knows
Jul 16 23:40:51 <RichT23> so which distro is used as a basis?
Jul 16 23:41:57 <NuttyBunny> for webOS? I might go with some sort of debian, but I really have no idea ;)
Jul 16 23:43:33 <RichT23> do the packages have there own format then?
Jul 16 23:44:45 <NuttyBunny> ipk
Jul 16 23:44:49 <rwhitby> OpenEmbedded
Jul 16 23:45:03 <Vince42> rwhitby: got the mail?
Jul 16 23:45:10 <rwhitby> Vince42: yes
Jul 16 23:45:29 <Vince42> how many seconds til the 2.1.1 feed will be available then? :P
Jul 16 23:46:06 <rwhitby> I can symlink it, but some patches will fail
Jul 16 23:46:25 <Vince42> ofc they will - but I guess we will find out soon then ...
Jul 16 23:47:00 <Vince42> i wonder which might be the real differences between 2.1.0 and 2.1.1 and 2.1.2 ... should be very minimal ...
Jul 16 23:47:35 <rwhitby> incrementing the framework submission numbers breaks patches
Jul 16 23:47:53 <Vince42> ic
Jul 16 23:48:16 <Vince42> well, what else can we do? i guess there's only this "try it and keep fingers crossed" option, right?
Jul 16 23:49:45 <rwhitby> yep
Jul 16 23:49:56 <rwhitby> or use the meta-doctor to update to 2.1.2
Jul 16 23:50:19 <Vince42> i don't dare to do so ...
Jul 16 23:51:17 <Vince42> who can tell what might go wrong with 2.1.2 ... if it was officially available for EU Veers they probably had an official update by now, wouldn't they?
Jul 16 23:53:58 <RichT23> there are eu Veers
Jul 16 23:54:17 <Vince42> right
Jul 16 23:54:18 <RichT23> oh thorght they were us only so far
Jul 16 23:54:37 <Vince42> since a fortnight or so they're available here too :)
Jul 16 23:54:42 <Vince42> thank god ... :P
Jul 16 23:54:53 <raul_> hi all
Jul 16 23:55:13 <RichT23> oh cool, i spose i should have a look for one then
Jul 16 23:55:21 <raul_> do you know if it's posible to use whatsapp in a Palm Pre2?
Jul 16 23:55:44 <RichT23> i do prefeer the Pixi shape though
Jul 16 23:56:12 <RichT23> im still using my centro =)
Jul 16 23:56:15 <rwhitby> raul_: it's a proprietary closed protocol, so no-one other than whatsapp can do that.  I would suggest changing to an open protocol.
Jul 16 23:56:58 <raul_> thanks rwhitby. could you recomend me one of this open protocol application?
Jul 16 23:57:28 <Vince42> RichT23: my gf has a pixi, i have a veer ... it took her exactly two seconds to fall in love with the veer ... ;)
Jul 16 23:57:49 <rwhitby> GTalk is one (it uses the open Jabber protocol).  IRC (which you are on now) is another.
Jul 16 23:58:12 <RichT23> Vince42: =)
Jul 16 23:59:28 <Vince42> atm i even doubt that i will switch to the Pre3 asa it will be available - the Veer is so damn small and sexy ... ;)
Jul 16 23:59:58 <RichT23> hehe i did fancy the smallness of it]
Jul 17 00:00:19 <raul_> yes but the use of GTalk and IRC is different as whatsapp,
Jul 17 00:00:57 <Vince42> i just need patches now ... for having some little convencience back into my webOS life ... :P
Jul 17 00:03:56 <rwhitby> raul_: correct, but since whatsapp do not want you to be able to use their communication protocol on your device of choice, why would you support them?
Jul 17 00:12:29 <Vince42> rwhitby: what is your guess for how many patches might fail with  2.1.1?
Jul 17 00:17:35 <gadeget> is there gonna be a way to MD to 2.1.2?
Jul 17 00:17:41 <gadeget> or 1
Jul 17 00:18:00 <gadeget> I have a spare pre+
Jul 17 00:18:25 <rwhitby> you can MD a Veer to 2.1.2, not a Pre/Pre_
Jul 17 00:18:35 <gadeget> ahh
Jul 17 00:19:16 <gadeget> I love my 2 on 2.1.0
Jul 17 00:45:06 <RavenII> Got that pre+ for $50, and it's mint...I don't think the guy used it for more than a week.
Jul 17 01:40:00 <RavenII> Does the tokens pulled from the phone match the comm board?...
Jul 17 01:40:24 <RavenII> Because I just swapped the comm board from pre- to pre- and all the info is the same...
Jul 17 01:57:14 <rwhitby> tokens are on the omap board, not the comm board
Jul 17 02:14:32 <pixi> hello I just got a palm pixi and I wanted to know how to download the uberkernel for it, I've been looking forever. If anyone canhelp I would really apprciete it
Jul 17 02:15:02 <rwhitby> pixi: have you read the instructions in the Preware Homebrew Documentation app in the official app catalog?
Jul 17 02:16:19 <pixi> I think so
Jul 17 02:17:41 <pixi> ha are you rod whitby?
Jul 17 02:18:46 <rwhitby> ye
Jul 17 02:18:48 <rwhitby> s
Jul 17 02:19:16 <pixi> thanks for the help I think I just figured it out
Jul 17 02:19:39 <pixi> if you didn't mention that page I wouldn't have
Jul 17 02:28:22 <MOSF> hi
Jul 17 02:36:48 <RavenII> webosdoctorp101ueu-wr-2.1.0.jar
Jul 17 02:36:53 <RavenII> anyone see that error before?
Jul 17 02:36:58 <RavenII> damn it. Fail.
Jul 17 02:37:11 <RavenII> I meant make: Nothing to be done for `unpack'.
Jul 17 02:37:22 <RavenII> I'm in ~/meta-doctor
Jul 17 02:37:36 <RavenII> and the file is in ~/meta-doctor/downloads
Jul 17 02:38:13 <RavenII> when i run make VERSION=2.1.0 DEVICE=preplus CARRIER=wr unpack
Jul 17 02:38:25 <gadeget> Never seen that - what exact command did you enter?
Jul 17 02:38:40 <gadeget> hmm
Jul 17 02:39:29 <RavenII> make VERSION=2.1.0 DEVICE=preplus CARRIER=wr unpack
Jul 17 02:39:36 <RavenII> (this is on a mac)
Jul 17 02:40:07 <gadeget> oh MAC... sry. not familiar
Jul 17 02:40:10 <RavenII> lol
Jul 17 02:46:56 <gadeget> RavenII - have you used that file before? I wonder if it downloaded right. Might be corrupted? just wondering
Jul 17 02:47:10 <RavenII> Possibly...I'll re dl it..
Jul 17 02:51:00 <RavenII> nah, still nothing gadeget
Jul 17 02:52:37 <gadeget> hm - wish I could help. I don't know MAC stuff. but the command looks right.
Jul 17 02:53:59 <RavenII> It's no problem...I'll figure it out, or someone might know...
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