**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 17 02:59:57 2011 Jul 17 03:01:11 RavenII did you try to clobber and start over Jul 17 03:01:26 Clobber? Jul 17 03:02:40 If the make command fails, you can use make clobber to clean up the build directory. After this you can re-run the command. Jul 17 03:04:48 gadeget: nice...that worked man Jul 17 03:05:08 no problem. Glad to help Jul 17 03:05:31 I really appreciate it...haha, I took my other phone apart already, and just lost the screws, so I HAVE to make this work. Jul 17 03:05:51 ut oh - Jul 17 03:06:38 RavenII: what wiki page are you following? Jul 17 03:06:49 webos-internals Jul 17 03:06:54 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:MetaDoctor Jul 17 03:07:02 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_Plus Jul 17 03:07:06 specifically Jul 17 03:07:13 specificity is good Jul 17 03:07:50 clobber..haha, I like that. Jul 17 03:08:13 i know right Jul 17 03:25:21 So when I make pack...I get [build/pre-p100eww-sprint-1.4.5/.packed] Error 1 Jul 17 03:25:34 can I just rename the directory to pre-p100eww-sprint-1.4.5/ Jul 17 03:25:45 and call it a day...even though I'm packing 2.1.0? Jul 17 03:33:51 I would not recommend ignoring errors when build meta-doctors Jul 17 03:35:06 seems a lot fo people have the issue, but no real resolution... Jul 17 03:35:51 Damn it man, why am I so hot?!?! Jul 17 03:36:01 * rwhitby looks into his crystal ball to see what the issue is Jul 17 03:36:52 lol...let me know what it says... Jul 17 03:37:39 ...ooooOOO("specificity is good") Jul 17 03:37:48 I know what the issue is... Jul 17 03:38:11 I'm a putz and because of my haste, I misread something...and now feel like a jackass... Jul 17 03:38:30 share Jul 17 03:39:17 I'm trying to read....ohhhhh. Jul 17 03:39:18 damn it. Jul 17 03:39:35 I was trying to read where I got the "make pack" command from... Jul 17 03:40:18 but I'm bouncing up and down on the wiki page....to see the example of what the castle.xml file should look like, and after pasting my token section...I didn't scroll back down to continue the directions from the correct part Jul 17 03:42:01 that wiki page needs to be re-written Jul 17 03:44:42 Yeah, it does...can I help with it?....tomorrow or monday? Jul 17 03:46:13 sure Jul 17 03:46:42 if you can make it look like http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade that would be perfect Jul 17 03:47:53 Holy moly...I'll...figure it out... Jul 17 03:48:28 I've done tutorials before...never on a wiki though, but I'll guarantee you this....if they follow the directions step by step...they won't have an issue... Jul 17 03:50:00 Rod: with the DevDay pre2, even if I wipe it and doctor it. And then put a south american SIM card in there, I'll have full catalog access? Jul 17 03:53:50 bnceo: depends what is recorded in the device record for that phone in Palm's servers Jul 17 03:54:05 I first activated this via AT&T Jul 17 03:54:18 using a friend's sim. then I took it out. been on Wifi ever since Jul 17 03:54:24 *should* be fine then Jul 17 03:54:34 But now, I want to doctor and make it pretty much brand new Jul 17 03:54:44 put in a foreign sim and have US catalog access Jul 17 04:09:55 What other method is there besides Vol + and Power?...because that isn't working to put this into recovery....and it keeps telling me the radio is off.... Jul 17 04:10:16 I can't get the Dr to see it... Jul 17 04:10:50 RavenII: are you following the wiki page instructions for recovery mode? Jul 17 04:11:01 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover ? Jul 17 04:11:14 yep Jul 17 04:11:23 Nope Jul 17 04:11:28 remove battery and cable, hold vol+ while attaching first the usb [plugged into computer] and then battery and THEN letting go of the vol button? Jul 17 04:11:31 I thought I'd annoy you some more...haha Jul 17 04:12:01 gadeget: easiest just to point to the wiki page :) Jul 17 04:12:09 how can it tell you anything? it should go directly to the usb logo Jul 17 04:12:58 I've tried all sorts of combinations...it just boots to the palm logo.. Jul 17 04:18:24 you're not following those instructions then Jul 17 04:26:08 sometimes I get a battery logo between the cable plugin and the battery replacement step... are you letting off too soon? using a good USB cable? plugged into the computer on the other end? Jul 17 04:29:00 rwhitby: ...there's 4 steps...I'm not THAT retarded... Jul 17 04:30:03 When it boots it says "Phone error" "your phone is experiencing an error that cannot be resolved".... Jul 17 04:30:17 RavenII: people other than you have made assumptions about the text while reading those 4 steps before ... Jul 17 04:32:18 rwhitby: Ok, I'll try... Jul 17 04:34:43 hey whats good Jul 17 04:34:50 oc80z: Life... Jul 17 04:34:57 Life on Sprint? Jul 17 04:35:00 Is that Good? Jul 17 04:35:03 Just life... Jul 17 04:35:12 I'm dumping Sprint. Jul 17 04:35:15 You wake up?...life is good... Jul 17 04:35:27 are you tripping? Jul 17 04:35:29 oc80z: that sucks...I'd be more bummed out if I owned the company.... Jul 17 04:35:34 oc80z: no...why?.... Jul 17 04:35:42 oc80z: Ubuntu 11.04 in the testing feed Jul 17 04:35:44 ... Jul 17 04:35:47 rwhitby dude. Jul 17 04:35:51 You have to be tripping to like life? Jul 17 04:35:53 that is Jul 17 04:36:01 .. Jul 17 04:36:05 Thanks man. Jul 17 04:36:14 Hey on that note.. Jul 17 04:36:27 oc80z: you got an ext3fs partition, right? Jul 17 04:36:32 I'm not that genius, may be you could tell. Jul 17 04:36:50 rwhitby I didnt buy it yet!! Jul 17 04:36:51 Verizon isn't perfect, but at least there's a chance for the pre3 Jul 17 04:37:00 i might do Tmobile! will the simcard work?? Jul 17 04:37:20 isn't ATT buying tmobile? Jul 17 04:37:32 Verizon Firmware is -awful- on Pre Orig. Jul 17 04:38:02 rwhitby- its in the testing feed for Touchpad, i presume.. Jul 17 04:38:05 pre-? Jul 17 04:38:20 oc80z: did I say it was just for TouchPad? ;) Jul 17 04:38:44 one must assume freedom in this channel. Jul 17 04:39:57 ...unlike all other phones. Jul 17 04:40:34 there Jul 17 04:40:37 oops Jul 17 04:40:48 there's and unlike button? Jul 17 04:41:08 dont say oops in front of uNiXpSyChO Jul 17 04:41:31 I give... why Jul 17 04:42:51 its just a play on the word 'oops' Jul 17 04:50:57 soo Jul 17 04:51:00 anyways. Jul 17 04:51:08 i was talking to some gnome devs at this thing at MIT Jul 17 04:51:35 a while back.. and yeah, the on-screen keyboard is due for gnome 3.2 Jul 17 04:51:39 dunno when , though. Jul 17 04:52:25 i see the natty chroot Jul 17 04:53:30 has the bootloaders changed on pre2/3/touchpad? Jul 17 04:56:36 trying to use omap3_usbload Jul 17 04:56:48 found device! Jul 17 04:56:49 could not get ASIC ID Jul 17 05:01:35 are you missing a module Jul 17 05:02:21 rwhitby: ping Jul 17 05:02:29 yes Jul 17 05:02:46 is the ubuntu chroot on the pre2 even into the alpha stage yet? Jul 17 05:03:07 RavenII: pre2 has a different id - I think they page notes that. pre 3 and touchpad are not omap Jul 17 05:03:14 I'm wanting to do it, but also want to possibly help on development of it Jul 17 05:03:24 it's in the testing feed Jul 17 05:03:34 the actual chroot? awesome Jul 17 05:03:38 * PatrickC goes to check Jul 17 05:04:22 PatrickC: You seriously didn't read the wiki page before pinging me here? Jul 17 05:04:40 the one you linked to on twitter? Jul 17 05:05:08 http://en.m.webos-internals.org/wiki/UbuntuChroot?wasRedirected=true ? Jul 17 05:05:28 whats that link Jul 17 05:05:34 :/ Jul 17 05:05:43 UnuntuChroot Jul 17 05:05:43 hey destinal Jul 17 05:05:54 hey destinal Jul 17 05:06:01 * phil_bw wanders by Jul 17 05:06:33 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/UbuntuChroot <- force reload it Jul 17 05:06:44 oc80z: PatrickC : howdy Jul 17 05:06:52 ok.. how do I do that on my pre2? Jul 17 05:06:56 clear cache? Jul 17 05:09:41 rwhitby: ah, I see now Jul 17 05:10:02 any way to create the ext3fs w/o a metadoctor? Jul 17 05:10:44 hey destinal, did u get the tp Jul 17 05:10:51 * cat-xeger ponders filing an RFE for the pre2 Jul 17 05:10:54 PatrickC: yep, if you're good enough you can use /bin/dd Jul 17 05:11:07 ... to give off less heat Jul 17 05:11:23 i stopped by to see if ah, anyone could give me a hint about the touchpads that will support simcards. Jul 17 05:11:59 oc80z: yes I've had my touchpad a few days now, mainly fighting to keep my email and messenger both working with my google account at the same time, and reading a new book in the terrible pdf reader :) time to get hacking Jul 17 05:12:15 rwhitby: just looked in my /bin dir (using Internalz) and I don't see a /bin/dd Jul 17 05:12:30 oc80z - I gather there are rumours that touchpads might support simcards Jul 17 05:12:38 ... from what you're saying, at least Jul 17 05:12:39 destinal: hope you created an ext3fs partition ... Jul 17 05:12:54 cat-xeger: TouchPad 4G has been announced Jul 17 05:13:26 I found /dd Jul 17 05:13:47 lol Jul 17 05:13:48 * cat-xeger *grins* at rwhitby Jul 17 05:14:40 PatrickC: make sure you read up on the LVM partitioning data structure bit alignment and packing first Jul 17 05:14:40 hmm.. now to figure out what /bin/dd does, and how it makes ext3fs... Jul 17 05:14:59 anyone have any ideals on how to get text messages from 1.4.5 to the touchpad? is it hardware or a software thing? Jul 17 05:15:00 ah, you have to repartition? Jul 17 05:15:03 PatrickC - it's a fine old unix util :) Jul 17 05:15:16 cat-xeger: I'm still new to linux ;) Jul 17 05:15:47 i've does the resizing of partitions before.. using lvm resize Jul 17 05:15:55 PatrickC - Bah. That's new stuff. Jul 17 05:16:03 lol Jul 17 05:16:07 ... back in my day... Jul 17 05:16:13 * halfhalo sits back and watches the dd show. Jul 17 05:16:16 * cat-xeger mutters and waves a cane around Jul 17 05:16:17 webos was the first time I was introduces to linux Jul 17 05:16:21 Really? Jul 17 05:16:25 Yargh. Jul 17 05:16:44 yep Jul 17 05:17:19 webos was the reason I installed ubuntu in a vbox, then a dualboot, and I now have ~d different linux distros on my computer Jul 17 05:17:26 s/d/4/ Jul 17 05:17:27 PatrickC meant: webos was the reason I installe4 ubuntu in a vbox, then a dualboot, and I now have ~d different linux distros on my computer Jul 17 05:17:53 4* not d lol Jul 17 05:17:59 ceveret3 it's software. 1.4.5 profile doesn't save them. but they are in the database on the device Jul 17 05:18:33 PatrickC: ~d is 2, not 4. Jul 17 05:18:40 If you have a TP, you should think about meta-doctoring Jul 17 05:18:49 rwhitby: so what are people doing for the ext3fs generally, metadoctor? Jul 17 05:18:53 "d" is "4" on my pre2 Jul 17 05:18:58 I forgot to hit "option" Jul 17 05:18:59 * rwhitby points to the bitwise manipulation hex joke ... Jul 17 05:19:06 oh lol Jul 17 05:19:20 annddd I just broke the ribbon that goes to the volume buttons...with that...I say goodnight. Jul 17 05:19:39 RavenII: oooo.. sorry :/ Jul 17 05:19:39 rwhitby: or are there preware packages that can make room on the fly yet Jul 17 05:19:40 night Jul 17 05:19:55 RavenII: heh, that's about the only non-reversable thing you could have done. Jul 17 05:20:15 destinal: meta-doctor allows you to specify size Jul 17 05:20:33 rwhitby: what's the average size? Jul 17 05:20:43 rwhitby: heh, how much did you set aside, 4 gigs? Jul 17 05:20:53 destinal: 8GB on the TP, 2GB on the Veer. Jul 17 05:21:15 (yes, Ubuntu is running on the Veer right now) Jul 17 05:21:27 yeah, out of 32, I suppose I could do 8. Jul 17 05:21:44 so i am guessing there is no way to access and froward that database in real-time over Bluetooth? or maybe through im? Jul 17 05:22:54 rwhitby: this - All of this is done on device either via novaterm or an SSH login. If your device does NOT have a folder at /media/ext3fs then you will need to create it first. Use the following two commands: Jul 17 05:23:05 means I can do it with xterm ondevice? Jul 17 05:24:18 * destinal hates hates hates Xecutah's name -- but the concept is very cool Jul 17 05:27:56 why qould I want to change the partitions? Jul 17 05:30:03 * rwhitby just edited his NYC Dev Day OpenOffice presentation on the TouchPad Jul 17 05:30:42 nice Jul 17 05:30:52 awesome Jul 17 05:31:00 cool Jul 17 05:31:35 neato ... oh wait, is that word copyrighted? lol Jul 17 05:32:03 lol Jul 17 05:32:34 rwhitby: openoffice or libreoffice? Jul 17 05:33:11 libreoffice Jul 17 05:33:47 wait... that IS cool Jul 17 05:34:21 xterm is not letting me type... Jul 17 05:34:32 I hit "c" and it acts like I hit enter Jul 17 05:34:56 http://twitpic.com/5refdk Jul 17 05:35:51 so - Are you running ubuntu ? Jul 17 05:36:58 yes Jul 17 05:38:44 xterm doesn't work like it used to.. after the update Jul 17 05:39:24 so - that is why the partitioning... to have a place to install ubuntu - nice Jul 17 05:41:23 can you use the sym key in xterm? Jul 17 05:43:02 cause I need to make a ">" (minus the quotes) Jul 17 05:59:26 well Jul 17 05:59:32 my phone is ready for ubuntu Jul 17 05:59:41 just got to resize the partition Jul 17 06:01:16 howdy Jul 17 06:01:24 minego: g'day Jul 17 06:02:01 rwhitby: I just need lvm resize to resize the ext3fs partition? Jul 17 06:02:03 everything else is ready Jul 17 06:02:13 if you create an app that has an upstart script to start it, and which doesn't cause a security vulnerability for a rogue webOS app, then I can add it's appid to xecutah's whitelist Jul 17 06:02:17 minego: ^^ Jul 17 06:02:44 I am loving having a working X server and ubuntu chroot, this is awesome work Jul 17 06:02:59 minego: how big did you make your ext3fs partition? Jul 17 06:03:10 8gb Jul 17 06:03:17 same here Jul 17 06:03:56 ah so things have to be packaged then? I was hoping to be able to add my own simple helper scripts Jul 17 06:04:18 minego: it's just an array in the xecutah main-assistant.js Jul 17 06:04:36 but in general, you just set DISPLAY and run what you want Jul 17 06:04:55 I am on the release doctor at the moment so I have to use the matchbox keyboard. I want to add a little script to kill it or relaunch it. Jul 17 06:05:19 ah cool, I'll go play with it Jul 17 06:05:55 I am installing gimp as we speak Jul 17 06:06:27 wow, the TouchPad's autocorrection for chroot is unfortunate Jul 17 06:07:29 rwhitby: when I do "lvdisplay" ext3fs doesn't show as a volume group Jul 17 06:07:48 its lvscan Jul 17 06:08:01 its an LV not a VG Jul 17 06:08:32 ah Jul 17 06:08:38 thanks ka6sox-farfarawa Jul 17 06:08:42 yw Jul 17 06:08:43 gimp runs Jul 17 06:09:10 ohhhh - you think a pre+ can do this? Jul 17 06:09:10 xtightvncviewer tries but never brings up the full screen Jul 17 06:09:29 does authenticate though Jul 17 06:09:32 hmm.. /dev/store/media is there Jul 17 06:09:46 but not ext3fs.. is the /dev/store/media what I need? Jul 17 06:09:53 trying to do this w/o a doctor Jul 17 06:10:00 gadeget: yeah, Pre+ can run all this Jul 17 06:10:04 gadeget: I'm doing it on a pre2 Jul 17 06:10:29 So will it be possible at some point to run multiple X servers, each in a card? Jul 17 06:10:42 I am thinking of messing with my spare [left over after upgrade to pre2 Jul 17 06:10:48 minego: can do that now I would expect using the command line Jul 17 06:10:53 sweet Jul 17 06:11:40 that could allow running a full screen app almost as if it was a webOS app Jul 17 06:11:41 Has anybody cleanly compiled a Qt app (presumably statically-linked) and had it work well on the touchpad? Jul 17 06:11:46 Without X11, etc. Jul 17 06:11:58 minego: are you set up to build from the WIDK? Jul 17 06:12:41 rwhitby where do i start. I have some linux exper. Jul 17 06:12:44 I know HP ships Qt . . . not sure if it makes sense to link to those Jul 17 06:12:50 not currently, but I've been meaning to. I've just had too many enyo projects lately. Jul 17 06:13:26 I'm running ubuntu, but not the latest. which releases does jt work on? Jul 17 06:13:43 rwhitby I mean what pages to read... Jul 17 06:14:57 does WIDK run on 10.10? Jul 17 06:14:57 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Internals_PDK Jul 17 06:15:08 minego: We run it on 11.04 now Jul 17 06:15:18 10.10 may work, but you'd be on your own Jul 17 06:15:55 I was afraid of that. I've been meaning to upgrade, but been too busy. Jul 17 06:15:58 ok - thanks rwhitby I'm off for now. will ttyl Jul 17 06:16:21 I may try later Jul 17 06:16:23 I'm off to bed Jul 17 06:16:32 i've got everything done but the resize... Jul 17 06:16:37 night all, thx rwhitby!! Jul 17 06:16:45 PatrickC you stole my thunder again Jul 17 06:16:55 lol Jul 17 06:16:58 how? haha Jul 17 06:17:01 nite all Jul 17 06:17:23 ^^^ I was going to bed :p lol Jul 17 06:17:36 lol Jul 17 06:19:37 btw, I found the private browsing with tweaks patch you emailed me about. I think the tweaks could be applied to my latest version too. Jul 17 06:21:34 man, people must love chromium. I've never been retweeted so much. Jul 17 06:22:06 and all I did was follow instructions Jul 17 06:24:46 rwitby: why do you ask about WIDK? Jul 17 06:26:11 minego: you and jhowirc should get together on that patch Jul 17 06:26:34 minego: WIDK is what we use to compile the XServer Jul 17 06:27:02 I posted my latest version on that thread Jul 17 06:27:33 I like the idea of using tweaks for it, I hadn't even thought of that Jul 17 06:29:18 I think I'll avoid trying to build the X server for now. There are too few hours in the day. In a few weeks I'll be less busy, so I may dig deeper then. Jul 17 06:33:52 If I do find time are there any tasks that need to be worked on that I could help with? I am a C coder. Jul 17 06:36:47 we need help with keyboard mappings Jul 17 06:37:22 that would be fun to work on Jul 17 06:38:14 if I find the time then I'll get on here and talk more with you Jul 17 06:38:49 I think I am going to call it a night Jul 17 06:39:31 Thanks again Jul 17 08:00:09 questoin: how do I remount the rootfs as rw so I can test out patches to an app? Jul 17 08:05:15 rootfs_open -t Jul 17 09:14:11 g'morning Jul 17 09:18:56 rwhitby: I pushed a new testing-version of navit like 10 hours ago, but it didn't appear on the feed yet Jul 17 09:23:47 noradtux_: what do the logs say? Jul 17 09:25:07 rwhitby: I am a bit out of practice ;) you have build-logs? where do I find those? Jul 17 09:26:01 hmm, juts looked, the ipk is there (org.webosinternals.navit_0.5.0.4637-1_armv7.ipk) Jul 17 09:27:21 rwhitby: okay, just forget what I said. it's all ok Jul 17 09:27:49 I should just wait until i've woken up properly ;) Jul 17 09:29:06 I did install the new package manually as a test before pushing the update to build.git Jul 17 12:04:01 it's possible to have the base_strings.json of preware .... to see and translate all the string that the app need ??? Jul 17 12:09:44 http://git.webos-internals.org/applications/preware/tree/resources/de/strings.json is probably close to correct Jul 17 12:17:52 ok thanks ;) Jul 17 12:37:19 incidental question. Why is it that my pre isn't recognized running the doctor in ubuntu [10 or 11] but it is in windows 7? incidental because it is in windows 7 Jul 17 12:38:06 This has happened on two different laptops Jul 17 12:41:49 wb NuttyBunny Jul 17 12:48:17 ok now i have update the italian translation of preware ... with all the string that i have found on the other language ;) Jul 17 12:52:09 egadgetguy: thanks :) Jul 17 12:57:35 At this point, is everyone developing on enyo? is there any reason to dev on anything else? Jul 17 12:58:13 for official apps. what about homebrew? and patches? Jul 17 12:58:20 egadgetguy: Well, with the latest Ruby's statements, I'm thinking on Ares+Enyo Jul 17 12:58:29 HB/Patches are still on 2.1/3.0 Jul 17 12:58:49 hmm - OK Jul 17 12:59:04 2.1? mojo? Jul 17 13:02:59 Yeah, seems like all development has moved on, at least to 2.1 and 3.0, it still makes sense to develop for Mojo until Enyo comes to the phones Jul 17 13:03:07 so, I use Ares for Mojo ;) Jul 17 13:04:03 OK - I have some app ideas and I started playing with ares then they announced enyo and I wondered if I should keep going or wait. Jul 17 13:06:16 mmm... well, the reason I stick with Ares is that it's somewhat similar to enyo in the element handling. But I'd wait a few more days until that statements get clearer Jul 17 13:06:21 (those) Jul 17 13:08:59 i want to submit a patch (for italian to enable the agendaview on launcher) i have an output from diff ... but what i have to add on the .patch file ? Jul 17 13:11:40 how can i do a git diff .... from the palm application file ? Jul 17 13:29:27 man... ##linux is no help Jul 17 13:32:26 rwhitby: once I fix the ext3fs w/o using a meta-doctor, should I document it on the wiki? Jul 17 13:34:58 PatrickC: You should give credit to whom credit deserves as well :) Jul 17 15:08:53 rwhitby: How large is large-enough for the ext3 partiton for the Ubuntu Chroot? Jul 17 15:34:27 Hello? Jul 17 15:36:35 Nobody? Jul 17 15:42:43 Damnit :/ Jul 17 16:59:39 ... one of your patches now turned off all message notifications Jul 17 16:59:45 lovely Jul 17 17:00:18 no buzz or notification Jul 17 17:32:58 I'm excited to be able to run Ubuntu apps on my TouchPad Jul 17 17:33:19 Only thing is that I wish I didn't have to meta-doctor. I know it's HP's fault with the usb drive but I hate doctoring Jul 17 18:06:02 Why does the tutorial say to use the meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0 instead of meta-sprint-franken-verizon-pre2-2.1.0 ?? Jul 17 18:06:14 how do i change my palm profile? Jul 17 18:06:37 i picked the wrong profile Jul 17 18:18:39 RavenII, what are you doing? sprint pre2 or vzw pre2? Jul 17 18:19:02 Sprint pre2... Jul 17 18:19:17 I'm starting over...since it seems like everything that could be going wrong...IS Jul 17 18:20:18 RavenII, then you need to use meta-sprint-pre Jul 17 18:22:53 How do I use ubuntu on my tochpad? Jul 17 18:24:12 kill_dano, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/UbuntuChroot Jul 17 18:24:30 Thanks! Jul 17 18:25:26 ah have to meta Dr :( Jul 17 18:26:58 So ubuntu just shows up as a card? Jul 17 19:47:33 There's got to be someting wrong with the wiki page... Jul 17 19:49:26 which page? Jul 17 19:49:29 dtzWill: ping? Jul 17 19:50:07 Hey, Patrick didn't you do the sprint pre2 conversion? Jul 17 19:50:13 not yet Jul 17 19:50:20 Damn it. Jul 17 19:50:22 haven't gone to home depot to get the t5 yet Jul 17 19:50:29 ohh... Jul 17 19:50:34 I have everything but the t5 Jul 17 19:51:39 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_Plus#Step_2:_Setup_meta-doctor <---I think there are errors in that page Jul 17 19:51:44 t5? home depot? Jul 17 19:52:18 T5 screw driver Jul 17 19:52:31 on the meta-doctor page? like what? Jul 17 19:52:39 i've used that page many times Jul 17 19:53:12 I meant http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_Plus Jul 17 19:53:13 oh Jul 17 19:53:27 they have a good one with replacable heads Jul 17 19:53:33 tmzt: were you thinking a T5 turbo? Jul 17 19:53:45 no just couldn't place it Jul 17 19:54:24 RavenII: what's the error? Jul 17 19:54:30 I haven't used that page yet ;) Jul 17 19:54:42 INFO: WARING: carrierList on the webOS Dr is : sprint and carrierToken on the device is : verizon Jul 17 19:55:08 did you "make unpack" Jul 17 19:55:13 and put your tokens in? Jul 17 19:55:30 and then make patch Jul 17 19:55:42 yeap Jul 17 19:55:46 wait.... Jul 17 19:55:47 no Jul 17 19:55:53 I'm doing the bottom part Jul 17 19:56:13 which bottom part? Jul 17 19:56:21 have you finished the doctor yet? Jul 17 19:56:31 and ran "make pack" 2 times? Jul 17 19:56:54 (Note: If you would like to upgrade your device straight to 2.1.0 and not install 1.4.5, please follow the directions for creating your meta-doctor in the #Baking_tokens_into_the_meta-sprint-pre-2.1.0_script section.) Jul 17 19:57:07 So I went straight to that section and started following from there... Jul 17 19:58:35 what script did you use? Jul 17 19:59:09 as it says...I even copy and pasted JUST so I could eliminate the possibility of typos. Jul 17 20:00:02 hmm.. no clue Jul 17 20:00:03 sorry.. Jul 17 20:00:45 and the sprint pre2 is much easier then that Jul 17 20:00:54 what do you mean? Jul 17 20:01:12 oh... Jul 17 20:01:14 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Sprint_Pre_2 Jul 17 20:01:15 sorry, pre2... Jul 17 20:01:17 right Jul 17 20:03:57 I think you're still supposed to do the first part, but substitute 1.4.5 with 2.1...not bypass it... Jul 17 20:07:30 So I ran the 2.1 frankenpre meta doctor, then I guess I updated the OS again to 2.1 with the OTA update. I thought everything was running normally, until I tried to a) Buy something from the catalog, and b) use freetether. neither work. Jul 17 20:07:51 Can't buy anything from the app catalog because it says Sprint does not support carrier payments Jul 17 20:08:09 use a credit card? Jul 17 20:08:09 And can't run freetether because it says it isn't part of my plan. Jul 17 20:08:32 It never gave me the option to use a CC (like it did with Sprint 1.*) Jul 17 20:09:07 that should be part of your profile Jul 17 20:09:25 Hrmm... Jul 17 20:13:54 OK, so you DO have to follow the top part... Jul 17 20:19:42 dwc-: Alright, nevermind, just old CC info. Seems to work now. thx Jul 17 20:47:34 Ok...so, the make file has to have REMOVE_CARRIER_CHECK = 1 uncommented now that this is a pre+... Jul 17 20:47:40 and the model check. Jul 17 21:03:30 hi, i want to try the widk ... i have installed on my debian ... and now i want to try the sample program doom ... but after entering on te scratchbox i run the ./configure --with-sdl-prefix=/opt/PalmPDK (i'm not using the default /usr/local because it' doen't work) but i receive this error Jul 17 21:03:34 *** Could not run SDL test program, checking why... Jul 17 21:03:34 *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the Jul 17 21:03:34 *** exact error that occured. This usually means SDL was incorrectly installed Jul 17 21:03:34 *** or that you have moved SDL since it was installed. In the latter case, you Jul 17 21:03:34 *** may want to edit the sdl-config script: /opt/PalmPDK/bin/sdl-config Jul 17 21:03:35 configure: error: *** SDL version 1.0.1 not found! Jul 17 21:03:38 someone can help mE ? Jul 17 21:05:01 RavenII: fix it? Jul 17 21:07:48 I don't know...I got it to boot...but data isn't working...I'm also trying to figure out where ./scripts/meta-sprint-franken-verizon-pre2-2.1.0 fits into all of this.. Jul 17 21:08:14 I tried it but it gave me an error about tokens...even though in the tutorial...it says tokens are no longer needed... Jul 17 21:08:22 Am I missing something? Jul 17 21:09:00 not sure if tokens are needed for a pre+ Jul 17 21:09:11