**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 22 02:59:57 2011 Jul 22 03:02:53 cleaned up my fstab file it was a mess from all my attempts - rebooting now Jul 22 03:04:48 grrr Jul 22 03:04:53 I don't want to have to redoctor Jul 22 03:04:57 But I think I might have to Jul 22 03:07:05 cleaned up the fstab file added the entry again from the wiki and still getting mount errors Jul 22 03:24:01 goddamnit, still get "not permitted to send to ca.canucksoftware.filemgr" Jul 22 03:24:03 error Jul 22 03:25:02 whelp, systoolsmgr and filemgr either don't like webOS 2.1 or don't like my phone Jul 22 03:25:33 "Service not running properly. Try restarting your device. If that fails to fix the issue, try reinstalling the service or contact the developer." Jul 22 03:25:59 try restarting your device... and reinstalling the services Jul 22 03:26:20 those sound like services I've got on my pre2/2.1.0 Jul 22 03:27:13 I uninstalled the homebrewn JS framework, filemgr, and systoolsmgr and did a cold boot Jul 22 03:27:20 Just reinstalled them, still no working Jul 22 03:27:36 Restarting again, if it still isn't working then off to the doctor I suppose Jul 22 03:28:32 Still not working....Does webOS 2.x backup text messages? Jul 22 03:33:12 uninstall, reboot, reinstall? Jul 22 03:34:10 tried that still not working, now I'm redoctoring after I backup everything important =/ Jul 22 03:39:01 * Legacy is still wondering what the holdup is for official doc editing on current webOS devices, Jul 22 03:40:02 Wasn't it promised...a long time ago? Jul 22 03:47:22 I suggest porting freoffice Jul 22 04:01:23 webOS doctor: "We were unable to reset your phone." Jul 22 04:01:27 Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttttttttttttttttt Jul 22 04:01:30 .__________. Jul 22 04:02:22 gorrrammmittt Jul 22 04:09:17 I bought this phone because it wasn't brickable, damnit. Jul 22 04:16:19 its not bricked Jul 22 04:16:33 where/why did it fail? Jul 22 04:17:52 I was redoctoring because I couldn't get internalz pro or LED torch's services working Jul 22 04:17:57 Legacy: did you run the doctor from the cmd line? Jul 22 04:17:58 started doctoring, got an error Jul 22 04:18:19 no Jul 22 04:18:24 try that Jul 22 04:18:29 and see where/why it fails Jul 22 04:18:33 that will be of help Jul 22 04:18:35 I'm on Windows Jul 22 04:18:36 what do Jul 22 04:18:37 ? Jul 22 04:19:25 navigate into the directory the doctor is in Jul 22 04:19:36 then 'java -jar webosdoctorname.jar' Jul 22 04:19:39 minus the '' Jul 22 04:24:15 ok Jul 22 04:27:19 What do I look for? Jul 22 04:27:57 just let the cmd window stay open Jul 22 04:28:04 and let the doctor run like normal Jul 22 04:28:18 wait for the doctor to end, and then paste the code if it fails Jul 22 04:31:01 "Warning: Flashing failed, move to failed card. Jul 22 04:33:16 hmm... Jul 22 04:33:26 what does it say prior to that? Jul 22 04:34:34 have you tried doctoring from recovery mode? Jul 22 04:34:45 what percent does it fail at? Jul 22 04:36:20 hey Jul 22 04:36:36 hey Jul 22 04:36:43 Legacy: please paste the whole log. Jul 22 04:37:06 use pastebin Jul 22 04:47:10 how would I copy the log from the Command Prompt? Jul 22 04:50:29 right click -> Mark All Jul 22 04:50:30 iirc Jul 22 04:51:05 then hit enter Jul 22 04:51:12 not cntrl + c Jul 22 05:07:22 Legacy: NuttyBunny_Pre2 might be able to help Jul 22 05:07:25 I'm off to bed Jul 22 05:07:32 I got it to work Jul 22 05:07:43 just ran the doctor over 9000 times and it finally went through all the way Jul 22 05:07:53 cool :D Jul 22 06:29:14 I just can't say -ah anymore....never more Jul 22 06:42:10 Just ran into a problem ive never seen before with just type. http://forums.precentral.net/webos-tips-information-resources/289127-just-type-corrupted.html .. Anyone have any suggestions? thanks! Jul 22 06:48:22 morning Jul 22 07:20:20 bawww Jul 22 07:20:40 Redoctored, running stock 2.1 and can't get Internalz or LED Torch working Jul 22 07:21:26 something to do with the services not running properly. =/ Jul 22 07:48:17 f Jul 22 07:48:20 j Jul 22 07:49:14 But yeah....any ideas about webOS 2.1 on a Pre 2 having issues with homebrewn services? Jul 22 08:10:12 This is cool. Jul 22 08:10:28 Now I know it works. Jul 22 08:19:25 Legacy: 2.1 works fine on my pre2, are you having problems with the SysToolsMgr service specifically? Remove/reinstall through preware? Jul 22 10:06:49 hi, i want to try to create an app for enyo ... the interface like preware ...but i haven't seen a code for enyo someone have a link to help me to understand how enyo work??? and how i have to write for it??? Jul 22 10:21:06 using the mediacapture library in a js-service I need to define it in the sources.json like the "foundations" definition or just in the service code? Jul 22 11:59:19 Would you consider adding Blood Sugar Diabetes to the AppList for Save/Restore? Don't want to lose that data Jul 22 12:05:02 Post a request in thd forum thread with either app storage info (if you are the developer) or a bounty for someone else to create the script needed. Jul 22 12:39:23 good afternoon people Jul 22 13:48:11 is there documentation on creating a patch anywhere? Trying to submit a TP Browser patch. Jul 22 13:48:53 unclear if the diff command needs to be run in the root of the file system, how to place a copy of the unpatched files somewhere for the diff. Jul 22 13:48:59 hey ryan Jul 22 13:49:02 it's markus Jul 22 13:49:06 hey Markus Jul 22 13:49:23 wanna put up that "Share to Paper Mache" patch for the Browser. Jul 22 13:49:32 i think the patch documentation is on precentral (forum) Jul 22 13:49:56 and i know of this Jul 22 13:49:56 http://patches.webos-internals.org/ Jul 22 13:50:13 yea, hunting thru there now - lots about installing patches, not so much about generating a patch file. Jul 22 13:53:58 Morning, I have just a general question about linux, can anyone help me about? Jul 22 14:03:05 afaict, yes you should diff from the root Jul 22 14:03:45 I think as long as you have something that applies though, you should be ok Jul 22 14:04:24 dwc-: ok, but then ... I clone the entire tree to .. subdirectory of root for the diff command to compare? Jul 22 14:04:24 I think someone just applies them to a src tree and creates diffs again for packaging Jul 22 14:04:40 http://gitorious.org/webos-internals/modifications Jul 22 14:05:07 dwc-: ah, so I can just copy, say the browser app folder, diff the two and submit that, and someone will generate the actual patch to be distributed against a full file system? Jul 22 14:05:51 I'm not entirely certain, but the commits look like they go from someone else's git repo Jul 22 14:05:56 http://gitorious.org/webos-internals/modifications/commit/d5cd016213e54d8777f4843d46f5c59323931f8c Jul 22 14:05:59 e.g. Jul 22 14:06:44 rwatkins: try it and see... and when you find out for sure, I've got some things I want to submit too Jul 22 14:07:07 dwc-: hmm. ok. so ... maybe I'll just submit my context diff for just the app folder I'm modifying and ... see what happens. Jul 22 14:35:25 noradtux, are you here? :) Jul 22 14:46:57 I LOVE this thing... Jul 22 14:47:05 I can't put it down... Jul 22 14:49:27 The only thing I don't like is that you can't touchstone it while on a phone call...AND turn the display off... Jul 22 14:54:53 I think if it's on a ts, you can answer the phone, and presumably turn the display off then Jul 22 14:55:06 but I hate speakerphone, so I've never tried Jul 22 15:03:03 Can't...tried last night. Jul 22 15:03:06 No go. Jul 22 15:23:27 any news about terminal for TouchPad? Jul 22 15:23:36 xterm works Jul 22 15:23:55 using Xecutah Jul 22 15:24:19 is there a how to wiki for that? Jul 22 15:25:09 its in preware Jul 22 15:25:15 testing feeds I believe Jul 22 15:25:21 Definitely testing feeds Jul 22 15:25:38 ~testing feeds Jul 22 15:25:39 nothing Jul 22 15:25:51 can anyone c/p the testing feeds url? Jul 22 15:26:17 ~testing-feeds Jul 22 15:26:17 testing-feeds is, like, a means of testing new WebOS Internals products, documented at http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Testing_Feeds Jul 22 15:29:03 hmm. still not seeing it after updating from testing feeds... Jul 22 15:29:25 search for Xterm Jul 22 15:29:56 thats what I did. http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/testing/all/ right? Jul 22 15:30:18 lemme check Jul 22 15:30:45 Target Device: Pre/Pre+/Pre2/Veer/TouchPad/Pre3 Jul 22 15:30:54 both Jul 22 15:32:39 there it is Jul 22 15:33:09 how do I use xecutah? Jul 22 15:33:30 you must install xserver and xterm as well Jul 22 15:33:58 then launch xechtah, click launch xserver, then click launch xterm.. that's how I do it on my pre2 Jul 22 15:34:42 thx. trying... Jul 22 15:35:38 np Jul 22 15:35:53 it works. thx. you guys are the best Jul 22 15:36:01 We do what we can.... Jul 22 15:36:07 (haha, just kidding) Jul 22 15:36:26 now off to show my geek friends why they should get a touchpad Jul 22 15:36:36 :D Jul 22 15:36:40 good luck :) Jul 22 15:36:43 hey RavenII! Jul 22 15:36:50 PatrickC: how are ya? Jul 22 15:37:31 good Jul 22 15:37:42 That's good. Jul 22 15:38:00 yep Jul 22 15:38:10 still waiting to do my pre2 conversion :/ Jul 22 15:43:07 Yo Jul 22 15:43:23 hey Jul 22 15:43:27 If anybody knows, just curious Jul 22 15:43:48 oh pre2… your so big compared to the veer…. Jul 22 15:43:56 Is a separate ext3 partition *required* for Ubuntu chroot, or is there another way to do it? Jul 22 15:44:39 Rather, do I need to metadoctor to get that partition, or would something like a disk image suffice? Jul 22 15:44:43 AtomicPlayboy: They r working on an official way Jul 22 15:44:54 a disk image works I believe Jul 22 15:45:07 AtomicPlayboy: you can do .img files and mount it to /media/cf or whatever Jul 22 15:45:12 Thats how I do it Jul 22 15:45:24 Cool Jul 22 15:45:27 Just wanted to make sure Jul 22 15:54:30 actually I believe you have to mount it to /media/ext3fs Jul 22 15:54:34 but it works Jul 22 15:55:15 nope, I mount mine to /media/cf. but I set it all up myself Jul 22 15:55:56 so you didn't install the chroot from preware then? Jul 22 15:56:00 nope Jul 22 15:56:30 right Jul 22 15:57:15 if you install the chroot through preware, its just a few extra steps to get it into an img iirc Jul 22 15:58:49 What's the default location that the chroot wants? Why not just mount it there? Jul 22 15:58:53 Hey chuqui Jul 22 15:59:57 AtomicPlayboy: the default is now i guess /media/ext3fs. I just made all my stuff before that standard existed, so all my things are pointed to /media/cf Jul 22 16:00:07 http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/files/2011/07/comic_con_bingo.jpg Jul 22 16:00:10 Er, sorry. Jul 22 16:00:40 Ah, okay Jul 22 16:00:48 hey Jul 22 16:39:53 hey chuqui, haven't seen ya in here in a while Jul 22 16:40:17 cryptk: hey. I'm around but it's been busy, so Im' not always chatty. Jul 22 16:40:51 yep, I see you being busy quite often... always filling my twitter lol Jul 22 16:44:24 * cryptk is ordering Jason's Deli... Jul 22 17:30:39 patch submitted, guess we'll see Jul 22 17:49:28 look at your depends.js file and the references to your other source files Jul 22 17:49:37 ugh, wrong window .. again Jul 22 18:00:14 who is the JSTop dev? Jul 22 18:00:40 you have 4 days to port JSTop to enyo else I will! Jul 22 18:00:44 who ever you are Jul 22 18:01:07 what's the name? Jul 22 18:03:21 PuffTheMagic, skip jstop, finish enyo wirc :D Jul 22 18:03:58 scoutcamper: jstop will take 15 min Jul 22 18:04:15 wirc will take 150 hours Jul 22 18:04:26 wirc is more important Jul 22 18:06:37 i have an idea Jul 22 18:06:46 no-- wait-- i dont Jul 22 20:03:30 Is there a way to lower the sms notification volume?...short of editing the mp3 in audacity.... Jul 22 20:04:42 I think it's the alert volume Jul 22 20:04:56 the names of the volume types are ambiguous Jul 22 20:08:14 Hmm... Jul 22 20:10:50 Any way to get the virtual keyboard to show up on xterm? Jul 22 20:12:24 globex_: see the warning in xecutah about virtual keyboard on touchpad? Jul 22 20:12:48 globex_: also, it won't show up if bt keyboard is enabled (i'm not actually sure if i could force it up when bt keyboard is connected if I wanted to) Jul 22 20:12:52 (haven't tried) Jul 22 20:12:56 thats the one I'm talking about Jul 22 20:13:14 ? Jul 22 20:13:26 so is there any terminal I can run on the TP without needing a bluetooth keyboard? Jul 22 20:13:30 mmmmm source for 3.0.0 sdl is out Jul 22 20:13:40 globex_: i'm saying the virtual keyboard should show up already Jul 22 20:14:01 dtzWill. it doesnt... Jul 22 20:14:07 if you're not on dev firmware it'll look wonky due to bug in their implementation Jul 22 20:14:16 globex_: o_O Jul 22 20:14:28 I'm not on dev firmware Jul 22 20:15:03 well even if it did then, the virtual keyboard is broken with pdk apps in the non-dev build Jul 22 20:15:06 *even if it did show up Jul 22 20:15:16 although it's strange that it's not at least showing up and exhibiting its rendering glitch Jul 22 20:15:21 uh, as for other terminals i don't know, others might. Jul 22 20:15:22 sorry: ) Jul 22 20:15:48 :'( Jul 22 20:20:28 dtzWill: I can't even get the vkb to come up on non-dev firmware Jul 22 20:21:18 how does the dev firmware differ, other than being a newer version? Jul 22 20:21:25 oh, wait, it's probably NDA Jul 22 20:21:27 never mind Jul 22 20:22:52 yeah, i'm only mentioning things that have been mentioned publicly on palm's forums, etc, like that the current keyboard implementation is broken Jul 22 20:22:55 starnge that it doesn't show up Jul 22 20:22:59 pretty sure it did in my test- Jul 22 20:23:00 oh Jul 22 20:23:02 haha Jul 22 20:24:14 nvm, we explicitly don't even try on builds where the keyboard doesn't exist or it's known to be broken Jul 22 20:24:30 yay rwhitby's attention to making a good user experience :P :) Jul 22 20:24:34 hah Jul 22 20:25:30 yeah he is impressively good at that Jul 22 20:26:02 In Preware and webosqi...what are these hunks that keep failing... Jul 22 20:27:07 well, so, a patch has "hunks" Jul 22 20:27:21 and when the patch can't apply properly, that's when a hunk fails Jul 22 20:28:05 Gotcha...does it leave remnants behind that i need to go in and manually remove? Jul 22 20:28:14 meaning does it leave files and things half assed? Jul 22 20:28:30 depends on what you mea Jul 22 20:28:33 mean Jul 22 20:29:00 for that specific hunk, I don't believe so, but if some hunks of a patch fail, and some don't, it might leave the ones that succeed in Jul 22 20:29:03 Like there's the error about saving rejects...do I need to delete those rejects? Jul 22 20:29:15 I see...but ultimately they uninstall...when you uninstall Jul 22 20:29:24 I think so Jul 22 20:29:29 gotcha Jul 22 20:29:37 the rejects are just extra files, it's probably not a big deal to leave them Jul 22 20:29:44 they won't affect anythin Jul 22 20:29:46 anything* Jul 22 21:15:06 Basically the TS is useless...the device keep waking up...and annoying me... Jul 22 21:15:23 it won't keep its screen OFF Jul 22 21:15:26 TS for what device? Jul 22 21:15:34 so its an expensive stand. Jul 22 21:15:39 for the TP Jul 22 21:16:34 its not like its getting any notifications...it just wakes up when the battery is charged. Jul 22 21:16:42 and then runs for a while... Jul 22 21:16:49 then charges... Jul 22 21:16:51 then wakes up Jul 22 21:17:02 and rinse, repeat....ALL NIGHT Jul 22 21:17:44 Similar problems happened with the Pre TS Jul 22 21:17:50 nice Stand...but a stand shouldn't cost as much as this thing does. Jul 22 21:17:52 Id find a link for it but im too lazy Jul 22 21:18:19 a Pre is a LOT less light than a TP Jul 22 21:18:32 the little light blinking....great...NP Jul 22 21:18:52 the thing putting FULL LIGHT on the screen just to let me know its charged? Jul 22 21:18:56 BOGUS> Jul 22 21:18:57 I agree with you Jul 22 21:19:14 if I turn the damned screen off I want it to stay off, even when there are notifications Jul 22 21:19:43 Seems like you have a faulty TS Jul 22 21:20:43 which device is this? Jul 22 21:20:49 TP Jul 22 21:21:03 They had this problem with the original TS and people recommended to replace it Jul 22 21:21:11 I skipped the TS for my TP Jul 22 21:21:13 When did you get it? Jul 22 21:21:18 I have too many 'stands' Jul 22 21:21:19 The TS Jul 22 21:21:29 I JUST ordered mine, like an hour ago Jul 22 21:21:41 Yeah, Id skip the TS for TP too until the price drops to like $20 bucks Jul 22 21:22:51 its not a $$$ issue Jul 22 21:23:18 the light from a cellphone you can ignore.... Jul 22 21:23:29 the light from a 10" TP is hard to ignore. Jul 22 21:24:21 Just drap a cloth over it Jul 22 21:24:28 or buy the case Jul 22 21:24:45 my old ipad case works perfectly for my TP Jul 22 21:24:57 horrible but true Jul 22 21:25:14 iPAD 1 right? Jul 22 21:25:22 right Jul 22 21:25:37 ka6sox, I wasn't interested in the 2... I wasn't into the 1 either really, but it's owned Jul 22 21:26:11 * Damm paid 500$ for the ipad for it's crappy web browser Jul 22 21:26:28 touchpad I can actually use and enjoy Jul 22 21:35:04 > Jul 22 21:43:25 I got a slipcase for mine, I didn't want the book-style cover Jul 22 21:44:06 The slipcase has the added side effect of polishing the screen and plastic when it's in my backpack, so when I pull it out, no fingerprints Jul 22 21:59:44 Abyssul: no. notifications turn the screen back on. it's lame. it's not touchstone dependent Jul 22 22:49:29 * rrix grumbles at http://www.webos-internals.org/index.php?title=WebOS_Internals_PDK&diff=17247&oldid=17245 Jul 22 22:49:48 That change in the make line only costed me a half hour :) Jul 22 22:51:39 rrix: why? Jul 22 22:51:51 make setup doesn't build packages/ Jul 22 22:52:31 right, cause some packages are always broken and we're sick of people complaining about packages not building when they're not even interested in building those packages Jul 22 22:52:51 ah Jul 22 22:53:03 well, having sdl and stuff in the scratchbox is a nice thing :) Jul 22 22:54:10 why isnt the Sysctl.conf Patch in Preware? Jul 22 23:01:03 Abyssul: "the Sysctl.conf Patch" ? Jul 22 23:01:15 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_2_Upgrade_Pre_Minus Jul 22 23:01:33 Someone wrote an article on patches and options to ge tthe most out of your pre- Jul 22 23:01:34 Abyssul: probably because the author has not submitted it? Jul 22 23:01:42 Just curious Jul 22 23:02:10 http://patches.webos-internals.org/ does not list it in the submission queue Jul 22 23:02:28 Might be best to just keep it in the wiki anyways Jul 22 23:03:16 rwhitby: so who reviews and posts the incoming patch queue there? Jul 22 23:03:27 dbsooner? Jul 22 23:05:27 myself and cryptk|offline usually Jul 22 23:06:11 ok, because I posted my first patch there this morning - TP Browser patch. Jul 22 23:06:59 Whats it do? Jul 22 23:07:07 rwatkins: yep, I see it there Jul 22 23:07:20 rwatkins, thats a pretty generic name. Jul 22 23:07:50 rwatkins: you may like to consider instead adding it to the tweaks-supporting browser sharing patch, rather than create a new separate one Jul 22 23:07:51 cross app launch Paper Mache to add an article. Its a TP Instapapaer client, so being able to save directly from teh default Browser is particularly useful. Jul 22 23:08:23 rwhitby: ya, I just couldnt find specific documentation on creating even a basic patch, so decided to do this first Jul 22 23:08:48 once I've got the process I'll likely create one thats also for the Instapaper service itself and look into a Tweaks version instead. Jul 22 23:08:55 rwatkins: "Sharing Super Mix" - contact malpha on PreCentral about it Jul 22 23:09:32 rwatkins: we would prefer a tweaks version update of that one from the start, rather than populating the feed with multiple patches that do the same thing Jul 22 23:10:49 rwhitby: sure, but seeing as there are no TP ones, I have never done a patch and the documentation is ... "spotty" this seemed like one that would actually get done. Jul 22 23:10:53 but I get where you're coming from. Jul 22 23:11:05 https://github.com/webos-internals/patches/blob/webos-2.1.0/browser/browser-sharing-super-mix.patch Jul 22 23:11:13 https://github.com/webos-internals/patches/blob/webos-2.1.0/browser/browser-sharing-super-mix.json Jul 22 23:11:56 if I wanted to download a package directly, how would I do that ? say for xecutah ? Jul 22 23:11:58 let me know what the consensus is after you talk with malpha (@scewdestiny on twitter) Jul 22 23:12:10 rwhitby: 3.0? Jul 22 23:12:16 my patch is 3.0/TP only Jul 22 23:12:20 rwatkins: it's not ported to 3.0 yet Jul 22 23:12:27 so .. that answers that. :) Jul 22 23:13:15 particularly as the app it cross launches is 3.0/TP only as well. Jul 22 23:13:51 yes, but you've already said you want to support more than one service Jul 22 23:14:21 so please do it in a tweaks-compatible manner from the start, so that others can then contribute more services to that later Jul 22 23:14:31 rwhitby: they're functionally different Jul 22 23:15:14 rwatkins: as you can see, that one Sharing Super Mix patch replaces 16 other patches Jul 22 23:15:41 rwhitby: this is all fairly moot without a 3.0 version of that tweak tho? Jul 22 23:15:45 and those 16 other patches would conflict in irresolvable ways, including ways that cause the patches to be uninstallable Jul 22 23:15:55 rwatkins: tweaks for 3.0 is in the testing feed Jul 22 23:16:12 rwhitby: today. today I can put out a patch that works. Jul 22 23:16:20 that users of the app can actually find and use. Jul 22 23:16:43 but you want me to go back to the drawing board, port to a Tweaks version thats not even in teh produciton feed yet, and hold up gettingg this out? Jul 22 23:17:23 that would be the best way forward for the long term, yes. Jul 22 23:17:40 i totally understand how Tweaks is better, but .. that solution does not really exist for the 3.0 TP enviornment today. Jul 22 23:18:17 sure it does. it's in final user testing, and you can be part of that final testing to get it into the production feed. Jul 22 23:18:41 rwhitby: I'm not eager to be a tester, I really have other issues to focus on. Jul 22 23:18:49 ok Jul 22 23:20:42 Meh, these hacks made my phone worse lol Jul 22 23:25:10 ok another stupid question, how does Quick Install determine what platform it's trying to install on ? Jul 22 23:25:14 something in /etc ? Jul 22 23:25:52 Ask Jason Jul 22 23:27:44 http://twitter.com/#!/who_to_follow/search/%40scewdestiny ? Jul 22 23:27:52 hi, anyone know what the default voltage for the Pre2 at 1ghz is? Jul 22 23:28:04 ah, 'r' in there Jul 22 23:28:04 stock kernel Jul 22 23:32:00 https://twitter.com/#!/webosinternals/status/94548692350140416 Jul 22 23:32:23 bhuey: probably a mix of uname -a and /etc/palm-build-info Jul 22 23:33:35 yeah, I'll have to experiment with it. Is the sources for Quick Installer available ? Jul 22 23:35:05 bhuey: it's closed source Jul 22 23:35:08 ok Jul 22 23:35:16 bhuey: Novatool is open source Jul 22 23:36:02 why is quick install closed source? has Jason given a reason? Jul 22 23:36:05 bhuey: but you'd need to contact PuffTheMagic for that one Jul 22 23:36:12 summatusmentis: ask Jason Jul 22 23:36:33 mild curiosity mostly Jul 22 23:36:34 summatusmentis: he open sources lots of stuff, but has specifically not open sourced that one Jul 22 23:36:45 huh, interesting Jul 22 23:37:23 is xecutah sized for the device in question appropriately at runtime or is that fixed ? Jul 22 23:37:32 it's every author's right to license their work as they choose, so I don't bother asking his reasons. he's obviously aware of and uses open source licenses for other things. Jul 22 23:37:45 so it's not an education thing. Jul 22 23:38:17 oh clearly, I'm not disputing his right to do so. I didn't realize he open sourced other stuff. like I said, mild curiosity more than anything else Jul 22 23:51:02 sadface Jul 22 23:51:28 Can't get LED Torch or Internals Pro running on webOS 2.1 because they're services aren't working Jul 22 23:52:22 uninstalled, restarted, reinstalled, restarted, uninstalled, etc. and they just wouldn't work Jul 22 23:52:44 So I redoctored, and bam, homebrewn services are still not working =/ Jul 23 00:08:31 Legacy: is Preware working? Jul 23 00:08:39 yes Jul 23 00:08:50 then correctly written homebrew services are working ;) Jul 23 00:09:28 I just don't get why FileMgr and SysToolsMgr aren't working. =/ Jul 23 00:09:45 have you checked the forum threads for them? Jul 23 00:10:26 I have checked the thread for FileMgr, two other people reported a similar issue in there Jul 23 00:10:34 *thread for Internalz Jul 23 00:11:12 One of them said they solved it by using webOS quick install, I tried that and didn't have as good of luck Jul 23 00:13:45 hola Jul 23 00:15:35 everyone noticed that they released the 3.0.0 sources? Jul 23 00:16:52 yes, with incorrect kernel patches Jul 23 00:17:50 oh yuck Jul 23 00:17:54 so it won't build right? Jul 23 00:21:28 it builds fine. for the veer. Jul 23 00:22:18 ohh Jul 23 00:25:13 i wonder if theres any way to change the build conf to match the ones found on the device Jul 23 00:30:19 veer and touchpad are different boards Jul 23 00:30:28 it's not just config Jul 23 00:31:05 gotcha, i wasn't sure if it was a common fileset with just different configs Jul 23 00:31:07 suppose not Jul 23 00:31:57 oh it doesn't even match the version Jul 23 00:31:59 lame Jul 23 01:11:59 LOL Jul 23 01:12:00 http://cgi.ebay.com/Unlock-Code-Software-AT-T-Palm-HP-Pre-3-/260822570699?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cba3c96cb#ht_2556wt_1037 Jul 23 01:12:12 Unlock your AT&T HP Pre 3 for any GSM network! Jul 23 01:34:40 rwhitby: ping Jul 23 01:35:32 AtomicPlayboy: yes Jul 23 01:35:42 Hey Jul 23 01:35:52 About /media/ext3fs Jul 23 01:36:35 Is there any particular reason it needs to be a partition? I saw someone earlier said they were using an image file for the Ubuntu Chroot Jul 23 01:37:50 performance, stability Jul 23 01:37:59 if you put an image file on /media/internal, it will break USB mode and maybe OTA updates Jul 23 01:38:15 if you put an image file on /media/cryptofs, it can't be bigger than 2GiB according to some reports. Jul 23 01:38:22 Right Jul 23 01:39:04 yeah, I've been playing with an image file on /media/internal it's definately a bit slow and unstable Jul 23 01:39:16 hopefully those caveats are travelling alongside the instructions if people are giving out instructions on how to make an image file Jul 23 01:39:36