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Jul 23 03:06:30 <nightburn> rwhitby: i have updated the wiki, http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/How_To_Recover , again thank you for the assistance.
Jul 23 03:08:51 <rwhitby> nightburn: thank you for making it better for the next person
Jul 23 03:15:37 <PatrickC> those kb tabs are tricky
Jul 23 03:16:07 <nightburn> once you do it once, it's easy
Jul 23 03:16:22 <nightburn> im assuming you're referring to the keyboard bezel on the pre ?
Jul 23 03:16:34 <PatrickC> yep
Jul 23 03:16:47 <PatrickC> I took my spare pre+ apart for practice
Jul 23 03:16:58 <nightburn> yea, the first time i did it, it took me probalby 30 minutes because i was so worried about breaking it ..
Jul 23 03:16:58 <PatrickC> put it back together, everything seems to work
Jul 23 03:17:10 <PatrickC> it took me about 10
Jul 23 03:17:13 <PatrickC> at most lol
Jul 23 03:17:31 <nightburn> but now it doesn't phase me at all and takes like 30 seconds.
Jul 23 03:17:37 <PatrickC> this is a spare phone, I wasn't as careful as I should probably
Jul 23 03:17:54 <PatrickC> yeah, I'll be taking apart 4 more phones next week probably
Jul 23 03:19:25 <PatrickC> it wasn't near as hard as I thought it would be. except for the kb tabs lol
Jul 23 03:19:48 <nightburn> do you have one of those plastic pry bar things?
Jul 23 03:21:03 <PatrickC> huh?
Jul 23 03:21:10 <PatrickC> a tool?
Jul 23 03:21:18 <nightburn> yea
Jul 23 03:21:28 <nightburn> lol, it helps alot.
Jul 23 03:21:44 <PatrickC> I have a 34 piece tool set
Jul 23 03:22:18 <nightburn> what with sockets and wrenches? stuff like that ?
Jul 23 03:22:35 <PatrickC> drivers
Jul 23 03:22:47 <PatrickC> precision tools
Jul 23 03:24:13 <nightburn> something like #1 or #4
Jul 23 03:24:14 <nightburn> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dtools&field-keywords=plastic+pry+tools&x=0&y=0
Jul 23 03:24:47 <PatrickC> I'm sure I have something like that
Jul 23 03:24:53 <PatrickC> I have really small flat heads
Jul 23 03:26:29 <nightburn> They make quick work of that keyboard bezel once you aren't afraid of it anymore..
Jul 23 03:26:39 <PatrickC> lol
Jul 23 03:26:46 <PatrickC> I'll probably practice one more time
Jul 23 06:32:12 <ACap> does it seem right that un-Sprintifying my VZWPRE+ would NOT require a meta-dr?
Jul 23 06:34:01 <ACap> in other words, I swapped the comm board back to the original VZW device, and it simply booted with the correct VZW phone number.
Jul 23 06:35:42 <ACap> normally, I'd simply cheer and go to bed, but it is still 1.4.5 and I don't have the Hotspot app
Jul 23 13:23:38 <kill_danao> anyway to access files on the usb drive while usung ubuntuchuroot?
Jul 23 13:53:01 <cryptk> kill_danao, you would have to do a bind mount
Jul 23 13:53:08 <cryptk> otherwise no... because that's the point of a chroot
Jul 23 13:55:21 <kill_danao> thnx'
Jul 23 13:55:38 <kill_danao> what kinda cool stuff should I do?
Jul 23 15:08:13 <hape> It is that long ago. can somehone telme the checkout command if I need to be able to make checkins to wbosinternas?
Jul 23 15:31:37 <dwc-> git clone
Jul 23 15:33:39 <hape> that is clear. But there was a special url to use if you whant to be able to chek in. not only git clone git://git.webos-internals.org/preware/cross-compile.git
Jul 23 16:09:09 <hape> problem solved
Jul 23 16:17:52 <pantsoftime> alright the kernel patches got fixed up
Jul 23 18:19:14 <zomg> Is it just the emulator or does openDatabase really not work with any other version than '1'?
Jul 23 18:19:38 <zomg> If I do openDatabase('foo', '2', 'foo', 1000) it causes an INVALID_STATE_ERR
Jul 23 18:19:44 <zomg> but with '1' it's fine...
Jul 23 18:20:01 <Damm> you mean the '2' '1?
Jul 23 18:20:11 <Damm> so openDatabase('foo', '1', 'foo', '1000)
Jul 23 18:20:11 <Damm> ?
Jul 23 18:20:20 <zomg> Yes, that one works
Jul 23 18:20:24 <Damm> it would be a crappy way of saying 'query failed' then
Jul 23 18:20:31 <zomg> but if I change the second parameter to anything else than 1, it fails
Jul 23 18:20:41 <Damm> what is that column?
Jul 23 18:20:47 <zomg> according to docs/spec it should accept other values too, like 2, or '0.5'
Jul 23 18:20:47 <Damm> it's sql so there's a obvious answer
Jul 23 18:20:58 <zomg> It's the database version
Jul 23 18:21:10 <Damm> ahh
Jul 23 18:21:14 <zomg> It's in the html5 db spec, and this page on webos internals wiki also claims it can accept other types as well
Jul 23 18:21:18 <zomg> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Mojo_Storage_Database
Jul 23 18:21:25 * Damm sighs
Jul 23 18:21:34 <Damm> i need to get my geek on and start having fun on my devices more
Jul 23 18:21:38 <zomg> Hehe
Jul 23 18:21:50 <zomg> I wonder if anyone actually ran that example snippet on that page in their device...
Jul 23 18:22:03 <zomg> '0.1' definitely does not work for me (on webOS 2.1.0)
Jul 23 18:22:29 <zomg> oh actually it won't work in chrome either...
Jul 23 18:22:38 <zomg> or with '2' either...
Jul 23 18:22:44 <zomg> I must be misunderstanding something here...
Jul 23 18:22:52 <zomg> Time to read the spec some more
Jul 23 18:23:53 <Damm> hrm, could be web browser spec?
Jul 23 18:24:15 <zomg> If the database version provided is not the empty string, and there is already a database with the given name from the origin origin, but the database has a different version than the version provided, then throw an INVALID_STATE_ERR exception and abort these steps.
Jul 23 18:24:19 <zomg> I'm a moron
Jul 23 18:24:22 <zomg> :P
Jul 23 18:25:17 <Damm> http://www.webos101.com/Mojo_Storage_Database
Jul 23 18:25:27 <Damm> haha
Jul 23 18:25:35 <Damm> zomg, :) learning is learning
Jul 23 18:25:46 <Damm> zomg, at least you didn't spend 4 hours down this road I hope
Jul 23 18:26:22 <zomg> hehe
Jul 23 18:26:22 <zomg> nope
Jul 23 19:49:10 <jettero> hrm, I need a way to make sure I wipe /media/internal on a sprint pixi with no network access.  I ran the doctor on it, but later realized I never made sure /media/internal was clear, and now (of course) it won't come up as a usb drive...
Jul 23 19:49:33 <jettero> no I have no idea how to wipe /media/internal (DCIM in particular)
Jul 23 20:02:21 <oc80z> jettero
Jul 23 20:02:47 <oc80z> you have to go in through novaterm
Jul 23 20:03:30 <oc80z> do you still -have- the phone?
Jul 23 20:09:26 <oc80z> it's still very possible
Jul 23 20:09:45 <oc80z> i made it to the bootie bootloader
Jul 23 20:10:41 <oc80z> (this was after a remote-explode)
Jul 23 20:10:56 <oc80z> (and all the data was destroyed)
Jul 23 20:11:25 <oc80z> but you should be able to , just as i did, get access to that partition via novaterm.
Jul 23 20:12:59 <oc80z> not sure if the entrypoint is 0x81000000 or 0x82000000
Jul 23 20:13:58 <oc80z> but it might have it saved, but there are additional bootargs you can set.
Jul 23 20:15:08 <oc80z> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery
Jul 23 22:32:21 <jettero> oc80z: I do still have the phone...
Jul 23 22:32:32 <jettero> will novaterm work without being able to put the phone in dev mode?
Jul 23 22:36:34 <jettero> yeah, ... I can't get it to find the thing
Jul 23 22:36:42 <jettero> I'm sure I've figured this out before, but years ago. :(
Jul 23 22:39:58 <jettero> oh, recovery mode
Jul 23 22:40:00 <jettero> doi
Jul 23 22:46:17 <jettero> holy crap that's hard to do on a pixi wow
Jul 23 23:15:00 <rwhitby> morning
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