**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 30 02:59:56 2011 Jul 30 04:27:32 anyone figured out how to fix screen issues with xserver apps... like I have an app that won't launch cause of a screen 0:0 problem Jul 30 04:30:21 doctoring my new sprint pre2 :) Jul 30 04:30:38 cool! :) Jul 30 04:31:06 someone tell me why this xserver app fails to launch here is the terminal error https://www.box.net/shared/fvo0ol0ytazhsdj0t58s Jul 30 04:32:33 and by that I mean someone PLEASE tell me ... sorry for being rude Jul 30 04:33:23 Abyssul just out of curiosity, where did you get a pre 2 and for how much? Jul 30 04:33:51 Palm sent it for free Jul 30 04:33:58 I just got it in the mail today. Jul 30 04:34:15 oh that was nice of them Jul 30 04:34:21 you're a dev? Jul 30 04:34:23 From the Pre 2 Dev Program Jul 30 04:34:32 wow I didn't know they were free Jul 30 04:34:40 I havnt gotten a reply since like April but I was approved Jul 30 04:35:05 Over the past couple of days, UPS has been trying to get me to sign for some package and I didnt even know until I opened that it was a new Pre 2 Jul 30 04:35:12 well nice to see they are giving Pre2s away .... gives me a hint of a hope that they might continue something that might resemble support for the device Jul 30 04:35:29 last I heard in May, the program was discontinued Jul 30 04:35:31 did you tell them you were gonna hack it into a fraanken sprint pre 2? Jul 30 04:35:42 No, does it really matter? Jul 30 04:35:49 lol nope Jul 30 04:35:59 The intent for me to have a live device version of 2.x Jul 30 04:36:02 just wondering if they had an opinion on the matter Jul 30 04:36:15 Probably not, Palm is laid back Jul 30 04:36:36 wow I'm using the TP's bt keyboard... finally have the ability to scroll back Jul 30 04:36:53 I was thinking wouldn't it be cool if they came out with a KB with a small gesture area Jul 30 04:37:04 I could back swipe from the bt KB Jul 30 04:39:16 Like at the top? Jul 30 04:41:19 software installed without a hitch so far Jul 30 04:41:34 Now to see if the hardware works Jul 30 04:48:43 hi all Jul 30 04:49:04 is it me, or is www.webos-internals.org redirecting to a twitter page?? Jul 30 04:49:37 Nope Jul 30 04:49:42 Works fine for me Jul 30 04:49:50 works good here Jul 30 04:49:53 wow Jul 30 04:50:20 i was just reading the wiki, now i just get a page not found twitter page Jul 30 04:50:45 clear your browser cache Jul 30 04:51:05 will do... check other computer and it works Jul 30 04:51:23 weird same on my mac both browsers! Jul 30 04:51:40 same problem. i mean on the mac Jul 30 04:51:41 - my mother has cancer .... / - clear your browser cache Jul 30 04:51:55 yes, i will thx Jul 30 04:52:32 kill_dano: that should work.. Jul 30 04:52:33 I can definitely confirm that there is nothing on the wiki or that server that will cause www.webos-internals.org to redirect to twitter Jul 30 04:52:40 so it's definitely something local to you Jul 30 04:52:47 hey cryptk Jul 30 04:52:48 is it a good twitter page at least Jul 30 04:52:54 hey PatrickC Jul 30 04:53:40 wel.. i've done enough troubleshooting for tonight.. pesky underscores.. := Jul 30 04:53:43 :P* Jul 30 04:53:53 I'm off to bed, night all Jul 30 05:01:05 Im getting a "sign in failed" error >.< Jul 30 05:02:46 Nvm there we go Jul 30 05:03:26 anyone have experience with the dreaded "Restart Required: You are no longer signed in..." issue? Jul 30 05:05:10 Rod has Jul 30 05:05:16 Said he got around it somehow Jul 30 05:05:30 Mentioned it in twitter Jul 30 05:05:36 yea Jul 30 05:05:43 I remember that very vaguely Jul 30 05:06:13 I'm trying to find that tweet as we speak, but twitter has date limits in browsing tweets *eyeroll* Jul 30 05:06:30 google with advanced search? Jul 30 05:06:38 search by date and site? Jul 30 05:07:01 He just mentions that he got around it, not how though. Jul 30 05:09:17 any idea what date around he tweeted about it Jul 30 05:12:11 JayCanuck, IIRC, look at the metadoctor and see what it does for bypass activation Jul 30 05:12:30 I think the idea was to do that process before you reboot and then do an impostah profile login Jul 30 05:12:36 it /may/ be the other way around Jul 30 05:12:48 and I /could/ be completely off.... but I think it was something along those lines Jul 30 05:13:19 I think I'll trying bugging rwhitby in the day or so Jul 30 05:13:35 thankfully don't need my phone much for the next 24hours :) Jul 30 05:18:20 Tell us what you find Jay Jul 30 05:18:25 Or put it in the wiki Jul 30 06:25:52 Hi Jul 30 06:26:18 Hola Ajay007 Jul 30 06:27:32 hay cryptk: i am opening a toster on clik edit button and pass thr id using published Jul 30 06:27:51 but i am not able to get tht value on create function Jul 30 06:28:23 on which function i can get the pass value ? Jul 30 06:29:21 i mean you know any toster onload event ? Jul 30 06:31:30 hii Jul 30 06:31:45 any one please help me Jul 30 06:32:40 Ajay007, you may want to try #webos for that Jul 30 06:34:04 and don't randomly PM me please... I'm not even a Mojo or Enyo developer Jul 30 06:38:26 ok Jul 30 06:38:28 sorry Jul 30 06:38:52 you are sorry and yet you did it again... :( Jul 30 06:39:10 * cryptk is a sysadmin, not a developer... Jul 30 06:39:40 ok now,... will not do Jul 30 06:39:42 :( Jul 30 13:06:07 why would my top bar be blank?!?! Jul 30 13:06:08 http://goaruna.com/s/YYxJJ7Dz Jul 30 13:24:16 anyone know about my topbbar issue? Jul 30 13:24:19 top bar* Jul 30 13:24:46 Nope Jul 30 13:24:56 ouch.. :S Jul 30 13:35:41 restart luna and see if that fixes it Jul 30 13:35:56 if it doesn't, uninstall any patches that touch the top bar and restart luna again Jul 30 13:35:58 I restarted luna and total Jul 30 13:36:13 I'll try the patch Jul 30 13:36:16 try uninstalling all top bar patches Jul 30 13:36:38 if that does fix it, re-install them one at a time and restart luna after each until you find the culprit Jul 30 13:36:49 then tell me so that I can test it and pull it from the feeds if necessary Jul 30 13:37:06 if it can be replicated, then it needs to be pulled until it is fixed Jul 30 13:37:17 assuming that it is indeed a patch causing it Jul 30 13:37:36 anyway, time for me to go home Jul 30 13:37:37 bbiaf Jul 30 13:37:58 cryptk: real quick.. why would I get this? http://pastebin.com/tkMk1YC7 Jul 30 13:38:14 //cc sconix Jul 30 13:44:04 Guess who needs to run epr? Jul 30 13:47:01 i've already run it once yesterday... :/ Jul 30 13:55:35 Louder|pre: EPR broke it more Jul 30 13:56:20 Odd Jul 30 13:56:41 http://goaruna.com/s/W2NH6KbD Jul 30 13:56:43 yeah... Jul 30 13:59:19 ugh.. I really don't want to doctor...... :S Jul 30 14:15:13 PatrickC, try EPI then EPR Jul 30 14:15:22 ok Jul 30 14:15:26 what did you EPR for yesterday? Jul 30 14:15:46 I could not remove the Max Blocker Jul 30 14:15:49 or update it Jul 30 14:16:17 did you have Max Blocker and Ad Blocker installed by chance> Jul 30 14:16:33 nope Jul 30 14:16:37 only max blocker Jul 30 14:16:45 weird Jul 30 14:16:48 running EPI Jul 30 14:16:50 yeah Jul 30 14:17:11 EPI won't run Jul 30 14:18:09 IPKG log says "No patches found" Jul 30 14:20:53 no clue Jul 30 14:21:22 should I try and reinstall /usr/lib/luna/system/luna-systemui from a doctor? Jul 30 14:22:51 have at it Jul 30 14:22:56 I would doctor honestly Jul 30 14:23:06 but I break stuff so often that I have doctoring down to a science Jul 30 14:23:25 lol Jul 30 14:23:38 what more is there to it then recovery mode, click, run? Jul 30 14:25:14 getting everything back like you had it Jul 30 14:25:58 ah true Jul 30 14:46:38 that's odd... my app installs correctly when i pull it from my website, but not when i try to install from the precentral feed Jul 30 14:48:35 anyone have any idea why that might be? Jul 30 14:56:35 Hm Jul 30 14:56:56 what was the question? Jul 30 14:57:15 my app won't download from preware on the precentral feed Jul 30 14:57:24 it installs just fine when preware can get the package Jul 30 14:57:25 D: Jul 30 14:57:30 but it's not fetching it properly Jul 30 14:57:57 if my appinfo has a different category than what i've set in "edit application", would that break things? Link construction or something? Jul 30 14:58:50 not something i can help with :( hopefully rod will be up soon Jul 30 14:58:57 ::nods:: Jul 30 14:58:58 ok Jul 30 14:59:02 thank you anyway :) Jul 30 15:28:34 heading out to george town, see you all a bit later Jul 30 15:54:53 Hello... ... ... Jul 30 16:20:40 hi, has anyone been able to figure out how to change a veer qwertz (German) keyboard layout mapping to qwerty (US/English) Jul 30 16:34:14 sorry, got disconnected Jul 30 16:34:36 anyone have an info of changing the veer keyboard layout Jul 30 16:56:48 try the metadoctor? Jul 30 16:57:06 at least for older devices, there was a change-keyboard-layout variable Jul 30 17:04:24 yeah read that for the Pre on WebOS 1, seems different for webos 2 and can't find anything on that. Jul 30 17:21:17 i just made a meta doctor for my pre2 Jul 30 17:21:31 and after i ran the meta doctor, the pre2 acts like it was a stock doctor Jul 30 17:21:58 i told it to bypass activation and firstuse, but it didnt Jul 30 17:22:47 it also never set the bootlogo to Tux Jul 30 17:22:58 so something went wrong, and im not sure how to find out what... Jul 30 17:37:16 when making a meta doctor, why would I get this error? Jul 30 17:37:17 /bin/sh: ./scripts/replace-md5sums.py: Permission denied Jul 30 17:37:17 /bin/sh: ./scripts/replace-md5sums.py: Permission denied Jul 30 17:37:17 /bin/sh: ./scripts/replace-md5sums.py: Permission denied Jul 30 17:37:20 PatrickC, you obviously have a permissions issue Jul 30 17:37:26 idk what you did Jul 30 17:37:31 but the issue is clear Jul 30 17:37:38 ok.. ill try it in a different folder Jul 30 17:40:59 http://pastebin.com/a5nXka7b Jul 30 17:41:03 tried to make it again Jul 30 17:41:08 a new error near the bottom Jul 30 17:42:34 thats not a new error Jul 30 17:42:39 to me it is Jul 30 17:42:50 it wasnt there last time i ran it.. so its new to this situations Jul 30 17:42:52 its still a permissions issue Jul 30 17:42:54 situation* Jul 30 17:43:01 hmm.. ill run it with sudo Jul 30 17:44:55 nope.. with sudo it still didnt work Jul 30 17:46:04 you on a mac? Jul 30 17:46:26 nope Jul 30 17:46:27 ubuntu Jul 30 17:46:39 it's another error Jul 30 17:47:29 somehow PatrickC's user can't execute scripts/replace-md5sums.py Jul 30 17:47:57 is it +x Jul 30 17:48:33 yep, I did a git pull and the permissions are correct :P Jul 30 17:52:29 seems to have completed fine this time Jul 30 17:52:31 thanks NuttyBunny Jul 30 17:53:42 bbl Jul 30 18:01:55 now the doctor wont finish.. http://pastebin.com/W460mzrc Jul 30 18:03:29 why would the doctor fail 2 times in a row? Jul 30 18:14:57 anyone? Jul 30 18:20:24 stop using sudo Jul 30 18:21:33 ill try that Jul 30 18:23:45 PuffTheMagic, http://pastebin.com/MdX4xM6f Jul 30 18:23:48 still failed Jul 30 18:25:22 i did *not* use sudo this time Jul 30 18:26:28 idk, this should be easy and idk what you are doing Jul 30 18:26:41 i am following the wiki exactly Jul 30 18:26:53 the doctors used to run fine.. but now they dont.. Jul 30 18:28:39 what would happen if i used a meta doctor in the downloads folder to create another meta doctor? Jul 30 18:33:00 anyone know if the older debian chroot is more stable than the newer ubuntu chroot? I got LXDE to run on ubuntu chroot but its real buggy... (i know that is to be expected...) but just wondering if the debian chroot might work better... Jul 30 18:34:48 cause i think that the doctor i put inside the downloads folder was a metadoctor Jul 30 18:34:57 so it was trying to patch an already patched doctor... Jul 30 18:42:45 permissions again!! Jul 30 18:45:22 just ran chmod a+x scripts/* Jul 30 18:45:25 lets see if it works now Jul 30 18:47:14 http://pastebin.com/jHyGGutd Jul 30 18:47:19 still breaking Jul 30 18:56:03 http://pastebin.com/sDaj6qGw Jul 30 18:56:06 broke again Jul 30 19:04:08 anyone? Jul 30 19:06:30 breaking how? Jul 30 19:06:55 http://pastebin.com/sDaj6qGw Jul 30 19:07:00 theres the log Jul 30 19:10:44 anyone have a sprint pre+ on 1.4.5 Jul 30 19:15:20 can u activate over wifi on 2.1? without using a metadoctor? Jul 30 19:23:13 ok... enough with the doctor! Jul 30 19:23:22 what else can i do to recover the phone.................. Jul 30 19:33:18 the doctor fails at 12% everytime Jul 30 19:33:34 ive run it about 10 times.. so its 12% every time... Jul 30 19:39:44 oil, what do i need to recover an undoctorable pre2? Jul 30 19:40:21 java -jar Jul 30 19:40:25 will let you see the log Jul 30 19:40:27 and errors/etc Jul 30 19:40:40 http://pastebin.com/sDaj6qGw Jul 30 19:40:48 ive already gotten the log about 10 times Jul 30 19:40:58 assuming i know anything about hardware is bad Jul 30 19:41:09 the phone has never been dis-assembled Jul 30 19:41:39 regular doctor runs fine.. meta doctor doesnt Jul 30 19:41:49 then run the regular doctor Jul 30 19:41:54 i am Jul 30 19:42:09 * oil leaves Jul 30 19:42:16 but i want to activate over wifi, i want the ext3fs.. Jul 30 19:42:17 etc. Jul 30 19:42:35 ok.. cya oil? Jul 30 19:45:09 ive g2g Jul 30 19:50:50 Anyone have any experience with the Pre2 overclocking kernels? Jul 30 20:34:33 hey Jul 30 20:34:55 is there any way to restore my profile over wifi via impostah? Jul 30 20:35:07 yes Jul 30 20:35:13 apps and all? Jul 30 20:35:24 I logged in.. but I want my apps, etc back Jul 30 20:35:38 not likely Jul 30 20:35:58 is there a way to enable activation over wifi.. like the path from 1.4.5? Jul 30 20:36:16 well, it worked on my phone after 3 days on wifi, and then a reboot, all my apps magically appeared Jul 30 20:36:19 patch* Jul 30 20:36:27 really? cool Jul 30 20:36:37 the meta-doctor *would not* finish.. ever Jul 30 20:36:43 so I had to stock doctor Jul 30 20:37:54 I'm going to email Arthur Thornton.. Jul 30 20:39:15 brb Jul 30 20:42:59 scoutcamper: what does the meta doctor change to make you able to activate over wifi? Jul 30 20:43:57 PatrickC, utsl Jul 30 20:44:01 ~utsl Jul 30 20:44:01 extra, extra, read all about it, utsl is Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?). Real Men don't write documentation; if it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. Jul 30 20:45:43 so look at the makefile? Jul 30 20:45:52 yep Jul 30 20:45:56 Should I use Palm's activation bypass tool or metadoctor to turn my Pre- GSM into a wifi-only device? Jul 30 20:46:11 Abyssul, or meta-doctor Jul 30 20:46:31 i like meta-doctor, but either one works Jul 30 20:46:50 use the meta-doctor Jul 30 20:46:53 is should work.. Jul 30 20:47:09 Which makefile? "make DEVICE=pre CARRIER=wr all"? Jul 30 20:47:28 Abyssul: you might as well make it a 2.1 :) Jul 30 20:47:30 PatrickC, did you run the doctor in linux or windows? Jul 30 20:47:43 s/doctor/meta-doctor/ Jul 30 20:47:43 scoutcamper meant: PatrickC, did you run the meta-doctor in linux or windows? Jul 30 20:47:45 scoutcamper: linux Jul 30 20:47:47 Na, this Pre is for my little sis who would complain about the 2.1 lagginess Jul 30 20:47:50 bah Jul 30 20:47:58 I'd rather stick her with 1.4.5 Jul 30 20:48:03 ah Jul 30 20:48:04 PatrickC, sun java or openjdk? Jul 30 20:48:12 I think openjdk.. Jul 30 20:48:22 there is your problem Jul 30 20:48:23 not sure, and linux is shut down atm Jul 30 20:48:36 but the regular doctor ran totally fine Jul 30 20:48:37 run it in windows and meta-doctor will work Jul 30 20:48:46 windows or mac Jul 30 20:48:57 ok.. ill try it Jul 30 20:51:26 Damn metadoctor, which webos doctor do I download for this ambiguous device lol Jul 30 20:52:20 Abyssul, what doctor file is it looking for Jul 30 20:52:41 I just want to turn my Pre- GSM that I made from loose parts into a wifi machine Jul 30 20:53:29 yes, i believe o2 had a pre- Jul 30 20:56:14 Ima doctor with the pre- O2 doctor and use the bypass activation tool Jul 30 21:11:18 anyone know if the older debian chroot is more stable than the newer ubuntu chroot? I got LXDE to run on ubuntu chroot but its real buggy... (i know that is to be expected...) but just wondering if the debian chroot might work better... Jul 30 21:12:14 your device is not compatible with this version of webos o.O Jul 30 21:12:21 Silly doctor Jul 30 21:33:39 Wow, weirdest thing Jul 30 21:48:58 Abyssul: for a 2.1 device, just use #*DEVMODE# Jul 30 21:49:29 Its 1.4.5 Jul 30 21:49:32 for 1.4.5, there's an article on Precentral about how to do it. Jul 30 21:49:38 Yeah I got it. Jul 30 21:50:05 Now to get rid of that Phone Offline on the top bar Jul 30 21:50:12 and find out the best ondemand settings Jul 30 22:57:40 is there a way to use impostah to change my carrier to Sprint? Jul 30 22:58:02 Blackboard app wont work on my sprint Pre 2 because it reports as RoW Jul 30 23:20:41 http://www.marcmart.com/goods-2225-LM8+8mm+LM8UU+Linear+Ball+Bearing+Slide+Bush+Bushing+CNC+Router.html Jul 31 01:06:35 I <3 webos-internals Jul 31 02:13:32 cool ssh and irc from my pixi Jul 31 02:54:04 scoutcamper|away: ping **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 31 02:59:57 2011