**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 04 02:59:57 2011 Aug 04 06:12:31 ok....all I have to say is that the 1.7ghz kernel is pretty friggen fast... Aug 04 06:13:08 works beautifully on my touchpad Aug 04 06:38:41 gah libusb+novacom woes Aug 04 07:01:23 shame it's closed-source and precom can't be used for a doctor... Aug 04 07:01:23 lol Aug 04 07:01:24 >.< Aug 04 07:03:18 dtzWill: what are you up to? Aug 04 07:04:14 nothing special, just some doctoring. Aug 04 07:04:26 usually using ubuntu's libusb's gets novacom working, but... Aug 04 07:04:36 this time not so much, and that's..frustrating. Aug 04 07:05:43 copy that Aug 04 07:06:09 hehe tp sparked your interest back into x eh? Aug 04 07:06:20 it did! :D Aug 04 07:06:22 bbiab Aug 04 07:06:25 >.< Aug 04 07:08:37 haha anyone know the limitations of the tga's in bootie? Aug 04 07:08:45 and/or how to create an image suitable for taht? Aug 04 07:09:32 destinal: did a lot of playing with bootie before Aug 04 07:10:45 well replacing the image is nice with metadoctor Aug 04 07:10:55 but not sure what requirements the image has :) Aug 04 07:17:24 lol just install novacom on my media center that runs ubuntu Aug 04 07:17:27 done fighting libusb Aug 04 07:17:29 * dtzWill resigns sadly Aug 04 07:17:40 wow Aug 04 07:18:08 it is late Aug 04 07:18:21 heh Aug 04 07:18:25 what time is it there? Aug 04 07:20:33 1:20am Aug 04 07:20:45 are we in same time zone? Aug 04 07:20:58 or are you one hour ahead? Aug 04 07:22:59 Jack87-wIRC: it's 2:21 here Aug 04 07:23:37 central for you :-) Aug 04 07:23:48 mountain for me Aug 04 07:35:55 * dwc- glares at the 330mb rvice.backup.js Aug 04 07:39:06 hmm, what happened to the browse local files patch for the browser? :( Aug 04 07:40:48 oh is it in default 3.0.2 now? hmm Aug 04 07:50:42 doubt it Aug 04 07:51:04 yeah. hmm, patch needs updating Aug 04 07:51:08 was a small fix too iirc Aug 04 08:04:08 time to run. been fun Aug 04 08:08:23 * dtzWill tries to submit update for file url patch Aug 04 08:09:16 cuz, uh, the exact same patch applies and works :) Aug 04 08:13:01 j/w who manages that? O:) Aug 04 08:31:40 dtzWill: did you mean to update the 3.0.0 patch too? Aug 04 09:44:24 rwhitby: i meant to mark the updated result as compat with both Aug 04 09:44:58 i downloaded the 3.0.0 patch, applied it directly on 3.0.2, and tested..and 'updated' with same file :) Aug 04 09:45:05 sorry if i used the portal wrong :( Aug 04 09:49:39 nope, that's fine. Aug 04 09:49:52 just means folks on 3.0.0 will see a version bump for no reason Aug 04 14:54:11 where can I get a flash player and better broweser for pixi plus Aug 04 14:56:34 any ideas Aug 04 14:56:44 Who's working on Xserver/Executah on the TouchPad (if anybody)? Aug 04 14:57:09 bighoss: I'm pretty happy with the built-in browser's Flash capabilities. Aug 04 14:57:27 I think Firefox and Opera are in the process of being ported. Aug 04 14:57:39 I dont think it has any flash capabilities Aug 04 14:57:39 it won't let me watch video's Aug 04 14:57:47 and I doubt those are being ported Aug 04 14:57:51 Oh wait, Pixi Plus Aug 04 14:57:53 Never mind Aug 04 14:58:10 videos from what site Aug 04 14:58:13 My mind is broked Aug 04 14:58:58 the browser is pretty awesome though what would you consider a "better browser"? Aug 04 14:59:02 no sites... Tube.me mostly Aug 04 14:59:38 have you added any patches or apps from homebrew Aug 04 14:59:38 tube.me? that's not even a video site :) Aug 04 14:59:48 well some, sure Aug 04 14:59:54 but there's no flash support for the pixi Aug 04 15:00:07 if you're looking for browser patches, install preware Aug 04 15:00:12 then browse the list of browser patches in there. Aug 04 15:00:13 tubeplus.me one of those sorry Aug 04 15:00:26 but you won't find any flash Aug 04 15:00:42 there's none really Aug 04 15:00:59 it says adobe has one Aug 04 15:01:05 flash is supported on webos 2+ devices Aug 04 15:01:07 pixi can't handle flash Aug 04 15:01:27 I have a bluetooth keyboard connected to my TouchPad but the virtual keyboard empty space is still there while Xserver is running. Is this a known issue and being worked on? Aug 04 15:01:57 like ubuntu or .tar.something are the choices under linux Aug 04 15:02:29 this is nor for arm computers Aug 04 15:02:44 not* Aug 04 15:02:44 is x server anygood Aug 04 15:03:03 what x server :)( Aug 04 15:03:25 under preware Aug 04 15:03:28 well Aug 04 15:03:28 With Xecutah Aug 04 15:03:32 it installs a x server Aug 04 15:03:33 I'm on 3.0.2 Aug 04 15:03:36 like 10 apps Aug 04 15:04:10 it might be any good depending on what you want to do with it :) Aug 04 15:04:36 wat is it for Aug 04 15:04:52 well, running x applications Aug 04 15:05:04 AtomicPlayboy: yes, known 'issue' Aug 04 15:05:06 like openoffice Aug 04 15:05:18 or xterm :) Aug 04 15:05:37 oh Aug 04 15:05:46 there's a browser too I think... epiphany Aug 04 15:05:49 atm afaik there's no way to determine if the bt keyboard is connected (or if the virtual keyboard is showing), so we just hardcode it atm. Aug 04 15:05:54 dtzWill: I take it it's not actually a problem and I'm just too stupid to figure out-- Aug 04 15:05:57 Oh, okay. Aug 04 15:05:59 eventually we might let you change the size dynamically Aug 04 15:06:21 and hope that solves that Aug 04 15:06:58 Alright Aug 04 15:07:35 I always immediately assume that I'm the problem (99% of all computer problems are behind the keyboard) and just want a sanity check most of the time Aug 04 15:07:43 they need a patch for speaker adjustments Aug 04 15:08:16 nah, X is in testing feeds for a reason Aug 04 15:08:32 Gotcha Aug 04 15:08:38 I'm happy to test and report back Aug 04 15:08:45 And apologize if I annoy the crap out of you guys Aug 04 15:10:11 Man I love this place. Aug 04 15:11:12 lol Aug 04 15:11:14 hahaha Aug 04 15:11:39 no worries, i should throw a redmine or something at it so i can track known issues/etc, and better utilize these kinds of things Aug 04 15:12:28 Could I recommend putting a "known issue" out there somewhere about the keyboard space? Aug 04 15:12:40 Either in the launcher or the wiki Aug 04 15:14:43 well also there's the issue of how big to make the x server w.r.t. changing keyboard sizes Aug 04 15:16:06 This is an OUTrage!...no adhoc?...no adhoc?! Aug 04 15:16:26 I'm actually kidding...it's not an outrage at all...but it is mildly upsetting. Aug 04 15:17:15 * AtomicPlayboy read that in BRIAN BLESSED's voice. Aug 04 15:17:49 * RavenII googles Brian Blessed Aug 04 15:18:25 Nono it's BRIAN BLESSED. The CAPS are important. Aug 04 15:18:41 Sorry... Aug 04 15:18:59 * RavenII googles BRIAN BLESSED Aug 04 15:23:46 I get this adhoc network finally setup...and no adhoc... Aug 04 15:24:01 That blows Aug 04 15:24:35 Yeah...worse when I saw my android tablet connect to it... Aug 04 15:25:22 I'm probably doing something wrong, but since about 2005 I have yet to set up an ad-hoc wifi network that WORKS on today's technology. Aug 04 15:25:27 silly adhoc Aug 04 15:26:07 And the only reason it worked back in 2005 was because one laptop was set up as an access point that the others connected to Aug 04 15:27:05 And (totally off-topic) the electricity was being provided by an old farm equipment steam engine. Aug 04 15:27:54 what's up? Aug 04 15:28:13 This is the first and only time I've gotten internet sharing to work...on adhoc no less...and the Pre can't connect to it... Aug 04 15:28:14 Backyard LAN party in 2005 Aug 04 15:28:43 yeah, I sorta havent used adhoc in ages, ever since intel released the 5xxx wireless cards that can do infra sharing Aug 04 15:29:56 mesh ftw Aug 04 15:30:29 Now I have to figure out how else to ssh into my pre... Aug 04 15:30:36 ssh won't work over 3g right? Aug 04 15:30:53 You have to use a different port Aug 04 15:31:02 2222 is generally the de-facto non-default Aug 04 15:32:26 Or 2022 Aug 04 15:33:18 Gotcha Aug 04 15:46:51 I really wonder why my copy and paste is broken...so no one else has an issue where when you hit shift...and tap on the screen...you see a 4 arrow cursor appear in the top left of the screen (on a website) Aug 04 16:07:26 guess not....the cheese stands alone. Aug 04 16:08:03 try doctoring? Aug 04 16:09:55 I don't want to restore all my apps, settings, tweaks, etc... Aug 04 16:10:16 backup only seems to back up certain things. Aug 04 16:10:41 not to mention I have 8 gigs of stuff on the phone which would take me 4 hours to put back on it... Aug 04 16:12:24 It'd be cool if there was a nandroid for webos...like a...nandebos... Aug 04 16:12:26 yeah. Aug 04 16:12:51 and a non /internal destructive way of doctoring... Aug 04 16:13:40 Does doctoring affect /media/internal? I didn't lose anything when I meta-doctor'd. Aug 04 16:16:40 it normally doesn't wipe my media/internal Aug 04 16:17:03 I doctored about 10 times one day, got the ROM error many times, and the usb was still in tact Aug 04 16:20:06 brb Aug 04 16:37:06 dtzWill: Is it possible to manually set the Xserver size post-install? I personally will never use the on-screen keyboard. Aug 04 16:37:12 I have the bluetooth keyboard. Aug 04 16:37:55 Addendum, I will probably never use the on-screen keyboard for Xserver. Aug 04 17:11:30 PuffTheMagic: ping? Aug 04 17:12:21 y? Aug 04 17:12:24 e? Aug 04 17:12:25 PatrickC: did you do custom partitions? Aug 04 17:12:28 s? Aug 04 17:12:35 RavenII: not yet Aug 04 17:12:45 ... so... I've doctor'd my pre2, but I'm still getting white-screen-o-death, luna manager restarting all the time, or the phone just going off into space and not coming back... Aug 04 17:12:49 PuffTheMagic: I ran those commands, still didn't let me run make prepare Aug 04 17:13:12 Is there anything else I can try that might help, or should I just start arguing with support about getting the hardware replaced? Aug 04 17:13:12 PatrickC: I think that's why you don't have issues with /media/internal being destroyed...when you do the partitioning it destroys it....I think Aug 04 17:13:41 RavenII: could be.. Aug 04 17:14:16 PuffTheMagic: Is there a problem with wIRC in which after scrolling back and scrolling to the bottom, it no longer autoscrolls? Aug 04 17:14:29 I have that problem too Aug 04 17:15:19 sounds liek you are telling me there is a problem Aug 04 17:15:25 better talk to oil about that Aug 04 17:16:28 oil! wIRC has a buuuuug Aug 04 17:16:45 *all* apps have bugs Aug 04 17:16:46 SHOCKER Aug 04 17:16:47 PuffTheMagic: Ok!! blaming oil ... :D Aug 04 17:17:16 Who's throwing the shocker? Aug 04 17:17:18 Oh. Aug 04 17:17:20 NuttyBunny_Pre2: PatrickC I can only keep up on so many projects at a time while working on a phd at the same time Aug 04 17:17:42 PuffTheMagic: and Tide ;) Aug 04 17:18:10 isn't it called TIDE? Aug 04 17:18:30 even these guys had bugs: http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/06/writestuff.html Aug 04 17:19:16 No way, an app with BUGS? Aug 04 17:20:53 I think this is wIRC's first bug.. right? Aug 04 17:20:59 wIRC never has any bugs Aug 04 17:21:28 Hm, I never noticed that Aug 04 17:21:30 I'll have to try it now Aug 04 17:34:39 RavenII: by default, you can't ssh into the phone, but you could change it to allow that Aug 04 17:39:05 dwc-: yeah, I've followed the wiki, but still getting errors connecting...timeouts and such Aug 04 17:41:20 just removed the "-i eth0" part? Aug 04 17:43:10 dwc-: yeah, and changed the port to 222 and tried 2222 Aug 04 17:43:19 thinking maybe Sprint is blocking Aug 04 17:43:41 uh-oh Aug 04 17:43:53 ...hmm? Aug 04 17:43:54 has sprint decided to be like verizon and block ports? Aug 04 17:44:20 Who knows...I'll keep trying. Aug 04 17:49:41 Hey all. Any wifi experts in here? Aug 04 17:49:59 I'm troubleshooting connection issues with a touchpad and enterprise WPA2 network Aug 04 17:50:14 I have the connection working from wpa_supplicant, but the OS thinks I'm not connected Aug 04 18:01:01 RavenII: just double checking, you're matching the iptables ports with the sshd -p port? Aug 04 18:02:01 dwc-: ? Aug 04 18:02:11 (someone just facepalmed... Aug 04 18:02:12 ) Aug 04 18:10:55 I'm looking for a way to fool the touchpad wifi interface into thinking it has wifi Aug 04 18:11:49 you mean like reverse tethering? Aug 04 18:13:44 dwc-: thanks...I see what you meant...it's working now. Aug 04 18:14:20 well Aug 04 18:14:28 it has a connection, the gui just doesn't know it Aug 04 18:14:45 RavenII: cool, glad you've got it working Aug 04 18:15:18 basically, the wifi app doesn't let me connect to my enterprise network, so I had to configure the backend to allow it to connect Aug 04 18:15:32 now it connects and has an IP, but the touchpad has no clue Aug 04 18:15:46 well as soon as node gets installed on the autobuilder tide will build Aug 04 18:18:02 davegarbs: ah, I see Aug 04 18:18:51 it's pretty interesting, because i can load websites and such now, if i can deal with the no connection errors Aug 04 18:19:08 I just need to find a way to let the OS know that it's connected Aug 04 18:24:50 Hello Aug 04 18:25:04 Could someone upload be a few files from Pre/Pre+ rootfs? Aug 04 18:25:21 I need Marvell's firwamre files for uAP Aug 04 18:25:27 8686 chip Aug 04 18:25:59 I do not own Pre, but I find references to firmware on that device. Aug 04 18:37:54 you can pull it yourself from the doctor Aug 04 18:38:27 I think that would probably be more kosher than an end-user redistributing parts of it Aug 04 18:42:43 AtomicPlayboy: other things have my time atm, but if, when you see the next xserver update flurry, you don't have the ability to cotnrol the virtual keyboard to your satisfaction ping me please :) Aug 04 18:42:58 in other words, i think i'm working on it, lmk if that doesn't work for you Aug 04 18:43:06 atm you cannot specify the xserver size via command line, no Aug 04 18:45:45 davegarbs, what what would happen if you installed freetether and turned on wifi tethering?? Aug 04 18:45:56 nm i dont think that will work Aug 04 18:46:06 not sure it's even touchpad compatible since i have no 3g radio Aug 04 18:46:31 well your wifi is already being used anyway Aug 04 18:47:14 yeah Aug 04 18:47:33 i was hoping there was a file i could touch or write to that would make the touchpad think it was connected Aug 04 18:47:44 try it with usb and see what happenes Aug 04 18:47:47 i'm trying to get HP to fix this issue so i can connect normally, but who knows how that will pan out Aug 04 18:49:28 PuffTheMagic, might have some ideas.. he messed a lot with the networking Aug 04 18:50:12 what did I miss? Aug 04 18:50:32 dwc-: more details about 'doctor'? Aug 04 18:50:38 some wifi goodness Aug 04 18:53:13 basically, I have an IP via wifi, but the touchpad has no clue :) Aug 04 18:54:44 as a result, all my apps like to warn me that i have no connection Aug 04 18:54:56 PuffTheMagic, he wants to touch a file or two to force the touchpad to think its online because it is Aug 04 18:55:41 the email app won't even try to fetch mail :( Aug 04 18:56:32 * Jack87 is contemplating buying TP accessories Aug 04 18:56:59 $160 for Case/Keyboard/Touchstone, free next day shipping Aug 04 18:57:32 How to extract webos doctor? Aug 04 18:59:02 ugh, must be able to turn off emoticons in SpazHD. Aug 04 18:59:02 davidlt: 7zip is what I use Aug 04 18:59:15 davidlt: http://www.palm.com/rom or http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Webos_Doctor_Versions Aug 04 18:59:26 dwc-: already downloaded :) Aug 04 19:00:03 well, unpack the jar files and .tar.gz files Aug 04 19:00:07 there's a rootfs in there Aug 04 19:00:52 where at jack? Aug 04 19:01:43 davegarbs, HP academy with promocode (i dont know if you actually have to be logged into HP academy) SAVE30HP Aug 04 19:01:51 ahh Aug 04 19:01:52 but you do have to have all three added to your card Aug 04 19:02:13 that's semi tempting, but not sure if i want the keyboard Aug 04 19:03:29 ya Aug 04 19:03:40 I think it has to be 150 of webos stuff for the discount Aug 04 19:04:06 because i got it to work without the case but with the Veer USB cord instead Aug 04 19:08:40 davegarbs, you do need to be logged into HP academy which it only takes a .edu email addy Aug 04 19:10:09 I think i'll hold off to see how HP handles this wifi issue Aug 04 19:10:18 no need for accessories if i'm not going to keep the device Aug 04 19:28:36 Is it possible to get kerne sources of WebOS? Aug 04 19:30:02 davidlt: opensource.palm.com Aug 04 19:31:40 NuttyBunny_Pixi: thanks Aug 04 19:39:26 dtzWill: Cool. Aug 04 19:55:44 Hi, I'd like to alpha-test linphone Aug 04 19:59:11 siestacat: you'll have to talk to rwhitby, but it's night in Australia Aug 04 20:02:39 rwhitby is a developer of linphone? Aug 04 20:02:57 I believe hes the one in charge (I think?) Aug 04 20:04:03 I think linphone is a great idea, and would love to report bugs and the like Aug 04 20:04:16 True VOIP. Aug 04 20:16:08 what linux kernel does webos run? Aug 04 20:17:28 PatrickC, wich version? Aug 04 20:17:44 2.0? 2.1? 3.0? Aug 04 20:17:46 I mean which distro is webOS Build off? Aug 04 20:17:51 HPTouchPad 2.6.35-palm-tenderloin #1 SMP PREEMPT 129.2.22 armv7l GNU/Linux Aug 04 20:18:37 thanks Aug 04 20:19:17 PatrickC, see the Commercial section here http://www.openembedded.org/index.php/Success_stories Aug 04 20:21:50 Anyone unofficially running above 1.4.5.1 on the Pixi Plus? Aug 04 20:28:00 there are some people running it.. Aug 04 20:28:29 Anyone I can speak to? Aug 04 20:28:36 1.4.5.1 is being a pain... Aug 04 20:34:33 is there anyone that knows how to remove the "raindrop" animation when you tap on anything (webos 3) Aug 04 20:40:58 davegarbs: the reticile? and yeah it can be removed via patches in preware Aug 04 20:41:13 pretty sure patches for that exist on most if not all devices/versions Aug 04 20:41:28 Hmm, my pixi is no longer recognized via webOS quick install . Aug 04 20:41:30 besides visual preference, it also slows things down quite a bit in games... Aug 04 20:43:40 thanks dtzWill, I'll just leave it then Aug 04 20:44:01 or did you mean the reticle slows down games? Aug 04 20:44:10 the reticle slows down games Aug 04 20:44:20 which is the primary reason for the patch, but i suppose some people might just not like it visually Aug 04 20:44:30 (i like it well enough, it's nice to see where it /thinks/ you clicked, etc) Aug 04 20:44:32 i don't see a patch for the touchpad Aug 04 20:44:58 but the animation, especially when tapped repeatedly quickly, does _not_ work well with games Aug 04 20:45:00 uhhh Aug 04 20:45:01 hrmm Aug 04 20:45:32 wonder if i can do it from the cli Aug 04 20:47:22 davegarbs: https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=15776 is related, but with no solution. Aug 04 20:47:32 sorry, other devices there are patches to disable :/ Aug 04 20:48:05 i'm going to download the patch file from an older release and see if i can find a way Aug 04 20:48:44 from the bottom post Aug 04 20:48:49 EDIT: As it turns out it was incredibly easy to disable entirely via a patch. I've submitted it to Preware. Won't solve the real problem but it should make your own experience better. Aug 04 20:49:26 -ShowReticle=true Aug 04 20:49:26 +ShowReticle=false Aug 04 20:49:32 looks simple lol Aug 04 20:49:44 webos has shell? right? Aug 04 20:49:53 I'm using novacom and have a terminal Aug 04 20:50:03 Anyone using Pageplus with your device? Aug 04 20:50:38 I'm wondering as I'm going to write a shell script, and need to make sure webOS supports shell Aug 04 20:50:42 I think it does Aug 04 20:50:45 dtzWill: thanks for you help, I think I've got it - restarting luna now Aug 04 20:50:45 just making sure Aug 04 20:50:45 it does Aug 04 20:50:50 you can install bash as well if you want Aug 04 20:50:56 ok cool Aug 04 20:50:56 davegarbs: oh yeah that was the patch as of the earlier versions, i'd assumed if that worked it'd already be in preware Aug 04 20:50:58 thx Aug 04 20:51:05 maybe less important since tp is much faster and so suffers less Aug 04 20:51:11 good call :( Aug 04 20:51:13 "important" as in need-driven development Aug 04 20:51:18 its weird because the variable is still in luna.conf Aug 04 20:51:28 oh, did it not work? :( Aug 04 20:51:32 that _is_ weird. Aug 04 20:51:39 i just did a luna restart Aug 04 20:51:42 maybe I should reboot? Aug 04 20:52:11 root@DavesHPTouchPad:/var/home/root# egrep ShowReticle /etc/palm/luna.conf Aug 04 20:52:11 ShowReticle=false Aug 04 20:52:18 aww :( Aug 04 20:53:29 http://forums.precentral.net/hp-touchpad/289439-another-good-patch-thatd-made-my-tp-faster.html Aug 04 20:53:33 might be a patch actually Aug 04 20:53:36 maybe I was searching wrong Aug 04 20:54:53 and there is Aug 04 20:56:08 awaeaswasw dwd d dd aa ddwdsawqdqqdsddddws sdddw a qd d aesasaw awaa saw d sddd w a sa w s w adsa aaw ddawadw ddws wd dsdwewdwdwsaw a daddddadwa saawwddwwswdswqdddwdddqaewddedddw aswdddeqqewdweqw qqqqqqqqsdwd sddwadsadwaw dwdd awasa weedWassawd a dwswddw dd eqwwwdWWA sww adwdeeeeewddswwdd deewwwwdwdddawwaswdwd aa d d wadddddwd wddd awaaww aawwwdaswdwawasswwqqasdd waw wwwaw wwsaswaw d wwds Aug 04 20:56:08 wwqdwd dwsqwddwawqwddwawswqdwddddwwwawwqqdwd dwdw a awssawdwDaAadsaawddAwdwwdwadssswdwdeeaaqqqwqd sw w d dwdw a d wdwws w dddwwwdd sweeddeawqqqdqsdwqs ww daeeasdawaerawwwdwwww d wadawqqwqw dsaw addwwww awd eaad d ddwsawedAad aswqawddedwddaaaw aswqeswssasddwddwwqdwewdwwwddqdadwd dwwasaqswqeswssqqqqqqtwwqdwewdwwwddqdadwd dwwasaqswqeswssqqqqqqtr w w wawwdqqwqqqqqswwdaws ddadw dasaw qw w Aug 04 20:56:10 w wqwdeddddwdqwwawqwawdaqqqqqa qqqqqqqsa wwqaaadsd sa dwadwdwww sddddsd qqqqqqqqqqqqqqdeeresd s dawwq w waqsawwqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqsaw qd wdqdwa sdqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqs a wa aw dqqqqqwsa dsadder rqwdwwwdsqdqqqqqqqqsdasq d er qsqsqesawawwaaw d as s asesdad d r a eea eeeeeeea eeeeeser qaarasdr wwdwsaswdeewd Aug 04 20:56:15 aw a aeawadawwqqwaaw qaeaawwdwwdds ww d a qssww aaa d a dwwdddwwdawdadww a waddaqqdawaaawa dwaeasdwedw edadwdaqwdwda awadw d da sdwwddeawwaddwad w wqwwwwqqwqw qw dasdwawewdswwsdwwddeawwaddwad w wqwwwwqqwqwsdwwdw waweaeew awwawwsdsadwdaawadaswwdaadswddsedddddddddwswaadwddswwddsadwdaawadaswwdaadswddsedddddddddddswaadwddswwddsadwdaawadaswwdaadswddsedddddddddddsdddswdwddswwddsadwwawwaaaaa Aug 04 20:56:20 PatrickC, see the Commercial section here http://www.openembedded.org/index.php/Success_stories Aug 04 20:56:28 RIPPLE IS GONE Aug 04 20:56:44 happiest day of my life Aug 04 20:56:46 umm... scoutcamper.. huh? Aug 04 20:56:55 you already showed me that? Aug 04 20:57:40 what the F*** Aug 04 20:57:58 my client went nuts and crashed Aug 04 20:58:21 if anyone cares how it's done: http://pastebin.com/5QCEYFPM Aug 04 20:58:26 yeah, we saw.. :) Aug 04 21:00:05 wow Aug 04 21:00:11 now.. to figure out /how/ to build a shell script... Aug 04 21:00:18 i dont even know what the hell that was Aug 04 21:00:46 shell scripting is easy Aug 04 21:00:51 what are you trying to accomplish Aug 04 21:01:09 just trying to do what palm-generate palm-package do Aug 04 21:01:19 going to add it to TIDE Aug 04 21:01:41 Just install the sdk in a chroot like me :) Aug 04 21:01:54 not familiar with those sadly, just got my t ouchpad a couple days ago and is my first webos device Aug 04 21:02:06 but I want to include it inside Tide ;) Aug 04 21:02:38 PatrickC, i work on tide with tide and compile all on device Aug 04 21:02:46 git/sdk in chroot Aug 04 21:02:56 mounted /media/internal Aug 04 21:02:59 does Tide need the chroot? Aug 04 21:03:12 davegarbs: great! :) Aug 04 21:03:37 PatrickC, nope Aug 04 21:03:50 siestacat, i think NuttyBunny_ was running it on his pixi. but it said it was way too slow to function as a phone Aug 04 21:03:55 is that a patch already? if not pretty please submit it to http://patches.webos-internals.org/ Aug 04 21:04:00 davegarbs: ^^^^^ :) Aug 04 21:04:05 I only need to generate an appinfo.json (pre filled out, to some extent), depends.js (empty file) index.html (pre filled out), and source folder (empty folder) Aug 04 21:04:06 yeah its called Remove Tap Ripple Aug 04 21:04:24 great Aug 04 21:18:12 still having a fun time with this wifi issues though Aug 04 21:18:16 hp support is slowww Aug 04 21:21:20 davegarbs, we should get them to add a seecret word like TIDEPENGUINS and when you say that they transfer you to tire3/engineering support Aug 04 21:21:49 I emailed palm level 3 support with some logs :D Aug 04 21:21:54 no response yet though Aug 04 21:22:00 scoutcamper: oblig: http://xkcd.com/806/ Aug 04 21:22:02 Heh. My wifi is fine... Aug 04 21:22:13 mine is at home, but i cant connect to my work wifi Aug 04 21:22:23 ... although it didnt' work at all until I dropped down to 802.11b instead of 802.11n Aug 04 21:22:29 (with WPA2) Aug 04 21:22:34 dtzWill, YES! someone got the reference!!!!!!!!!! Aug 04 21:22:35 and because HP decided to include zero options for enterprise networks, i had to do it myself in a config file Aug 04 21:22:51 davegarbs - at least you can... Aug 04 21:22:55 here's the thing though Aug 04 21:23:03 the gui has no idea that I'm connected Aug 04 21:23:07 scoutcamper: it's xkcd, everyone should get the reference ;) Aug 04 21:23:15 i can't get on wifi using the wireless app Aug 04 21:23:37 Heh. Aug 04 21:23:40 i have to run a few scripts on the CLI and grab an IP w ith dhclient, but luna has no clue that I'm connected to a hotspot Aug 04 21:23:45 dtzWill, you would be suprised at the ammount of people who have never heard of xkcd Aug 04 21:23:46 so i get all kinds of fun warnings and such Aug 04 21:23:57 * dwc- doesn't read xkcd regularly. only when someone links it. Aug 04 21:24:21 davegarbs - I'll settle for luna not restarting all the time, and random apps not giving me the white screen of doom Aug 04 21:24:38 lol pre owner? Aug 04 21:24:43 pre2 Aug 04 21:24:54 touchpad seems good so far Aug 04 21:24:57 no random restarts Aug 04 21:24:58 ... and if I knew of a way to check the memory/flash on the thing, I'd try that, too Aug 04 21:25:02 my gf's pre plus is crap though Aug 04 21:25:07 what? yours does all that? mine never does that! Aug 04 21:25:09 Aug 04 21:25:28 dwc- Last time I asked about such things, people claimed theirs were stable Aug 04 21:25:28 im still a webos skeptic Aug 04 21:25:33 I hope HP fixes these things Aug 04 21:25:55 just last night, the phone was frozen because of a runaway uploadd Aug 04 21:26:01 I want to like webos ... but the implementation on my phone frustrates me. Aug 04 21:26:36 yeah, can't say I blame you Aug 04 21:26:39 coming from an iphone, I Aug 04 21:26:43 ... or the phone hardware does... not sure which Aug 04 21:26:48 I would never be able to tolerate instability like that Aug 04 21:27:08 say what you will about apple/iphones but they are pretty solid and reliable Aug 04 21:27:08 webos/pre2 hasn't annoyed me enough to make me go back to my motorola razr v3 yet Aug 04 21:27:20 I don't really have an option about tolerating it Aug 04 21:27:24