**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 08 02:59:58 2011 Aug 08 04:26:03 beta feeds back?! is it really true?!?! Aug 08 04:29:03 they are!! Aug 08 04:29:59 eh? Aug 08 04:30:16 yeah Aug 08 04:30:34 UberAppCat shows my app that's listed in the *beta catalog* Aug 08 04:30:45 and when I click, it takes me to the *beta catalog* :) Aug 08 05:06:11 I really wish darron black would have documented his process for creating these Qt libraries better Aug 08 05:06:15 they're almost impossible to follow :\ Aug 08 05:06:24 and afaict totally impossible to replicate Aug 08 05:11:27 first *working Virtual Keyboard for webOS 2.x devices* is coming soon! and it doesn't crash the phone!! http://ompldr.org/vOXQwaw Aug 08 05:24:55 rrix, you use ipkg list_installed on the device to get the version number of the qt libs, then you cross compile them, plain simple Aug 08 05:25:47 PuffTheMagic: That's just the problem, they're too old for what I want :) Aug 08 05:26:02 how could they be too old Aug 08 05:26:13 They're Qt 4.6, I need >=4.7 for QML Aug 08 05:26:23 then build static libs Aug 08 05:26:29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QML Aug 08 05:26:31 I could Aug 08 05:26:33 or use rpath when linking then and bundle your own libs Aug 08 05:26:35 I have considered it Aug 08 05:27:12 Right now I can't get his webOS Qt gfxdriver plugin to load so it's moot anyways :) Aug 08 05:27:47 why do you ned qml? Aug 08 05:28:10 "because" :P Aug 08 05:28:15 also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QML Aug 08 05:28:17 er, fail Aug 08 05:28:21 also http://userbase.kde.org/Kontact_Touch Aug 08 05:28:42 i know what qml is... its nasty Aug 08 05:29:09 It's the best scenegraph I've played with so far Aug 08 05:29:11 and why would install kontact_touch when we have synergy and good webos apps is beyond me Aug 08 05:29:22 Because it's a nice client? Aug 08 05:29:33 What's wrong with nice alternative? Kontact Touch is beautiful Aug 08 05:29:46 Plus it does things which synergy can't do, like sync notes and not mangle tasks Aug 08 05:30:09 synergy can do those things Aug 08 05:30:21 It doesn't, though Aug 08 05:30:33 because no one has yet Aug 08 05:30:35 but it can Aug 08 05:30:37 so u should do that Aug 08 05:30:45 instead of playing with qt Aug 08 05:30:56 I'd rather scratch my own itch? Aug 08 11:33:34 \o/ lots of X11-related backlog ^.^ Aug 08 16:07:38 anyone here followed the resize swap instructions for a preminus? Aug 08 16:39:01 Hola Aug 08 16:42:47 hello Aug 08 16:44:21 yo Aug 08 16:44:33 so I think all the traveling I did in Peru destroyed my Palm batteries Aug 08 16:44:39 cause none of them work now Aug 08 16:45:20 lol Aug 08 16:45:59 I was using the Pre2 just fine for a solid 6 days, then it went kaput about 2 miles above sea level Aug 08 16:46:44 lol Aug 08 16:47:16 oh, and we should be blessed over in the US Aug 08 16:47:23 cause data down there is SUPER expensive Aug 08 16:47:50 having a web based phone that loves to retrieve data didn't help matters Aug 08 16:48:50 all prepaid data is ridiculously expensive Aug 08 16:49:13 also, phone app-> preferences -> data off Aug 08 16:49:20 did like the various places to recharge tho. here, you can only charge in certain places Aug 08 16:49:31 in Peru, local grocery store can do it Aug 08 16:49:38 you Loudergood: I used that a lot Aug 08 16:49:49 I was on EDGE or just on voice network only for a while Aug 08 16:49:58 also had email setup to manual Aug 08 16:50:05 I have prepaid service..my 200mb a month would get used up fast Aug 08 16:50:27 push vs every 15 makes a huge difference in data usage too Aug 08 17:02:57 Hi guys Aug 08 17:03:04 I had a couple of questions Aug 08 17:03:07 ok Aug 08 17:03:27 Is there any way to put the device on hotspot mode programatically? Aug 08 17:03:40 use freeTether? Aug 08 17:04:25 mandark_, do you have Preware installed? Aug 08 17:04:28 Awesome, I'll have a look Aug 08 17:04:57 The thing is, I'm new to WebOS and it's only been 2 hours since I've been asked to join a new project :) Aug 08 17:05:45 So, please bear with me if I ask silly questions Aug 08 17:06:19 Also, is there a way to detect if a new call has arrived? Aug 08 17:07:01 not officially Aug 08 17:08:28 Unofficial would be fine... I just need this for prototyping some ideas Aug 08 17:08:57 unofficial means you cant distribute the final app using the App Catalog Aug 08 17:09:08 Sure, no probs Aug 08 17:09:19 Distribution isn't my main goal Aug 08 17:09:38 As long as i can install it and detect it Aug 08 17:10:26 Same goes for wifi tethering Aug 08 17:11:04 Looks like FreeTeather isn't open source? Do you know if the source is available somewhere? Aug 08 17:11:40 mandark_, http://git.webos-internals.org/ Aug 08 17:11:49 both the app and its service are there Aug 08 17:11:59 Wow! Aug 08 17:12:04 Great stuff Aug 08 17:14:17 Thanks guys, I'll have a look arund the git repo and come back with more questions. Honestly I didn't anticipate making so much progress on day one, but you were great Aug 08 17:14:17 Have a nice day Aug 08 17:24:39 what are some clever ways to use mode switcher to saver battery? Aug 08 17:24:52 im thinking of trying one that turns off data based on screenstate Aug 08 17:25:51 well it's often useful to turn off GPS when wifi is connected Aug 08 17:26:02 generally you only need super accurate GPS coords when you are out and about Aug 08 17:28:00 well i already have gps set to use google location and to always ask Aug 08 17:28:19 wont that keep it from using gps unless i am trying to do something? Aug 08 17:28:48 with backgroun data collection off Aug 08 17:29:05 obDense: Will 'backup' back up contacts and SMS? Aug 08 17:29:32 ... trying to figure out what bits of info I need to somehow copy off of my phone before erasing it. Aug 08 17:31:33 kevets: not sure, IIRC the GPS chip (at least used to) take some power even when coordinates aren't being fetched. maybe a battery meter application test could tell you if the current changes when it's on or off Aug 08 17:35:29 ok actually yeah gps is off on my phone Aug 08 17:36:20 is there a way to force synergy acccounts to sync? Aug 08 17:36:25 something that can be tied to an action Aug 08 17:37:48 not sure there is for all services at once Aug 08 17:37:51 i need to read up on what all the possibilities are to try and figure out what im lookint for actually Aug 08 17:38:15 you can sync email manually, contacts too, calendar... but not all at once Aug 08 17:38:22 cuz connecting to wifi automatically turns data off.. i shouldn't need a mode switcher setting to do that Aug 08 17:39:05 why that much focus on battery life.. you probably can't add much more than a couple hours anyhow :) unless in airplane mode :) Aug 08 17:39:46 eh you know just trying get blood from a stone i guess Aug 08 17:40:35 did you yet? Do you consider your battery life now much better than initially? Aug 08 17:41:03 did i what yet? Aug 08 17:41:24 get blood ferom that stone :) Aug 08 17:41:57 haha nope not yet Aug 08 17:42:21 the f104a kernel with the screenstate v3 seems to be performing better than stock for me Aug 08 17:42:32 with low voltages? Aug 08 17:42:34 and connecting to wifi wherever it is available is helping Aug 08 17:42:36 or standard ones? Aug 08 17:42:46 i haven't messed w/ its settings really... not sure what is safe to change Aug 08 17:43:13 so standard for now Aug 08 17:43:17 are you looking for long active battery life or long idle battery life? Aug 08 17:44:02 let's say long idle Aug 08 17:44:21 yeah ok then messing up with the cpu won't do much... it's really all the network stuff that's eating it Aug 08 17:44:28 so if im not using it, it'll use as little as possible juice Aug 08 17:44:52 I know if my phone is in airplane mode it barely use any Aug 08 17:45:05 i've got email accounts syncing every 30 minutes except for my work exchange account is 5 mins Aug 08 17:45:17 turned off the messaging on those accounts Aug 08 17:45:20 if data is on the battery goes down no matter those settings Aug 08 17:45:53 it will last around 24 hours I guess or so Aug 08 17:46:01 with data on while idle Aug 08 17:46:08 yeah i was thinking of trying one where mode switcher turns off data when screenstate is off Aug 08 17:46:17 and when its on switch data back on Aug 08 17:46:25 and just leave all the acconts to 'as items arrive' Aug 08 17:46:30 well sure if you don't actually need data while off... Aug 08 17:46:45 like you don't want to be notified of anything unless you turn on the phone... then it's a good plan Aug 08 17:47:01 yeah like i wont know if theres an email unless i say 'hey im gonna check my emails' Aug 08 17:47:10 same for a calendar event Aug 08 17:47:17 well Aug 08 17:47:18 maybe not :) Aug 08 17:47:29 if the event has been sync'd to your phone already I guess Aug 08 17:47:33 calendar events that are synced should pop up like a regular alarm Aug 08 17:47:38 true Aug 08 17:47:41 and sms will still ding Aug 08 17:47:46 yeah Aug 08 17:48:20 so does that exist? a way to turn data off when screen is off? Aug 08 17:48:35 yeah mode swithcer has a way to use screenstate as a trigger Aug 08 17:48:36 I mean it's obviously doable but hey maybe no one did :) Aug 08 17:48:37 ok Aug 08 17:48:49 ill give it a try and see what i miss :) Aug 08 17:51:15 wifi is low power compared to 3g data right? Aug 08 17:51:23 im thinking i leave wifi on regardless Aug 08 17:51:39 ill try it both ways Aug 08 18:00:25 interesting, discovered that the screenstatev3 300/1100 setting wasn't sticking on reboot. added that into my default mode switcher settings Aug 08 18:01:26 now i have that, and two modifier modes that will turn data off when the screen is locked after a 30s timer, and when the screen is unlocked turn data on immediately Aug 08 18:01:34 and accounts are all set to as items arrive **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 08 18:30:38 2011 Aug 08 18:42:04 quick question, does anyone know of a patch that restores the zoom-out functionality of 1.4.5 in 2.1.0? Aug 08 18:42:21 I'm sad to see it appears they've gotten rid of it., Aug 08 18:43:11 rearranging cards is so tedious when you're not zoomed all the way out Aug 08 18:44:07 when I get to a pc, I might look into patching that myself, if someone hasn't already... Aug 08 18:44:09 yeah i cant figure out how to get the zoom out either Aug 08 18:44:19 dangit Aug 08 18:44:24 (2:42:43 PM) kevets: yeah i cant figure out how to get the zoom out either Aug 08 18:44:33 that's luna stuff right? Aug 08 18:44:33 was wondering where that went when i patched to 2.1 Aug 08 18:44:44 yeah Aug 08 18:44:48 its luna Aug 08 18:45:04 which means binary, and not patchable, iirc Aug 08 18:45:21 well crap Aug 08 18:45:23 hmm Aug 08 18:45:44 like my idea of putting agenda view in place of the lock screen Aug 08 18:56:23 Sorry for asking a stupid question in advance, but I couldn't find the answer in the wiki, unless I'm blind or don't know how to use Search properly Aug 08 18:57:04 I meta-doctored my TouchPad to 3.0.2, but when I rolled back to "normal," my USB partition is still smaller than it's supposed to be Aug 08 18:57:22 How do I fix the USB partition size? Is there a patch or something in Preware for it? Aug 08 19:06:20 Regular Mojo via Eclipse or Aptna? Aug 08 19:17:07 a infobot test testing test Aug 08 19:17:12 s/test/test2/g Aug 08 19:17:13 dwc- meant: a infobot test2 test2ing test2 Aug 08 19:17:24 s/test2/test/ Aug 08 20:08:06 anyone messed with the HP Play software for managing songs? Aug 08 20:08:14 it would be great if it handled video Aug 08 20:08:17 very briefly I did Aug 08 20:08:22 like ... m4p Aug 08 20:08:33 I do, but only music, and only music I select Aug 08 20:08:56 I have it pointed to a different location than my actual library, because I can't fit 30GB of music on a 16GB device. Aug 08 20:09:05 yeah like i am just trying to get it to pick up my podcasts which are just mp3s Aug 08 20:09:10 shoulda gotten a 32GB device :) Aug 08 20:09:29 and half the time it craps out thinking it needs to convert them and the yare video Aug 08 20:09:52 Why carry my entire library around when I'm not going to listen to all of it? I can use the space for other things. Aug 08 20:10:06 That is, once I figure out how to get the partition back to 16GB Aug 08 20:10:12 If anyone knows how Aug 08 20:11:29 no idea Aug 08 20:17:36 can webos even play m4p video? Aug 08 20:17:49 m4p? mp4? Aug 08 20:18:03 aren't they pretty similar Aug 08 20:18:14 yeah Aug 08 20:18:25 must be a weird itunes thing Aug 08 20:18:38 like a video podcast i have shows up with m4p Aug 08 20:18:40 ah right they are drm'd mp4 from itunes Aug 08 20:18:45 prolly not then :) Aug 08 20:19:08 oh my mistake they are just mp4 Aug 08 20:19:32 then the pre can, assuming the codec inside is supported Aug 08 20:19:39 arg Aug 08 20:20:11 for best results use h264 :) Aug 08 20:20:47 lets see, vlc says codec is mp4a and avc1 Aug 08 20:21:19 hm not sure about avc1... doubful Aug 08 20:21:45 wiki says its just mpeg4 Aug 08 20:22:11 they are all mpeg4, but there are like 20 mpeg4 levels Aug 08 20:23:17 did you try it anyhow? Aug 08 20:24:20 actually i think it is h264 Aug 08 20:24:38 where does it need to be to be 'seen' by the video playback program? Aug 08 20:24:47 I think anywhere in media/internal Aug 08 20:25:52 you're right both avc and h.264 are implementation of mpeg-4 part 10 Aug 08 20:27:23 hmm how about from the usb drive mode in windows? i don't know which subfolder media/internal is under Aug 08 20:27:46 it's all of it Aug 08 20:27:55 usb drive mode shows only the contents of /media/internal Aug 08 20:28:27 oh okay i was thinking that was it but wasn't quite sure Aug 08 20:32:31 Are rwhitby or dtzWill around? Aug 08 20:33:02 checking for files and getting the spinning progress bar under videos Aug 08 20:33:05 ug Aug 08 20:33:44 this never seems to work out well when i copy stuff in usb mode Aug 08 20:33:55 weird Aug 08 20:35:05 its like its trying to re index and find new files but it never seems to finish Aug 08 20:35:21 hmm Aug 08 20:35:26 is it still connected in usb mode? Aug 08 20:35:56 no i even ejected it in windows Aug 08 20:36:02 got it plugged into a wall charger Aug 08 20:39:31 should restart the phone I guess Aug 08 20:40:24 lol already did about a min ago.. just came back up Aug 08 20:42:36 like 3 of the 13 mp3s i copied over are visible in the music app and none of the videos are visible in my 'video roll' Aug 08 20:42:54 if you added videos (not filmed em) they aren't in video roll Aug 08 20:42:57 they are in "loaded videos" Aug 08 20:43:16 i dont have a loaded videos folder Aug 08 20:43:22 yeah that could be a problem Aug 08 20:43:27 guess something is wrong Aug 08 20:43:32 it's not scanning Aug 08 20:43:33 it didnt pick em up i guess Aug 08 20:43:34 or whatever Aug 08 20:43:37 arg Aug 08 20:44:23 I heard usb mode is not great... read a couple people having similar issues Aug 08 20:44:34 should stick to sftp or something like that... samba maybe even Aug 08 20:44:38 yeah its slow and doesn't seem to copy stuff over all that great Aug 08 20:45:12 that would probably be better, maybe it could be put into some usb networking mode like freetether can do Aug 08 20:45:24 what for Aug 08 20:45:33 ah Aug 08 20:45:35 for when you dont have network Aug 08 20:45:48 yeah meh... not sure how you would go about doing that... Aug 08 20:46:50 yeah probably not too practical Aug 08 20:47:01 working usb mode would be the right way to do it Aug 08 20:52:27 Anybody know if there are any guides out there yet on how to manipulate partitions on the TouchPad? Aug 08 20:52:52 Or if there's a way to reverse the meta-doctor partitioning system? Aug 08 20:57:00 Hm... is the xterm 0.7.2 in testing (which seems to require xecutah to run) a descendant of the somewhat earlier 0.2.0 xterm package? Aug 08 21:03:08 I think it's a re-thinking of the process Aug 08 21:03:59 Digging about, looks like it's a replacement for xterm/xserver ... Aug 08 21:04:14 ... digging through http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/240926-x-server-pre-13.html thread Aug 08 21:18:08 FYI: didn't know this, but LVM tools will work. Aug 08 21:19:07 I still think you should talk to rwhitby, there's a reason the LVM stuff isn't publicised Aug 08 21:22:29 there is a huge mess of different layers of partitioning and virtual partitioning in there Aug 08 21:23:14 Yeah, that's what I'm seeing Aug 08 21:23:29 This isn't fun anymore guys Aug 08 21:23:31 :p Aug 08 21:23:36 I just want my 16GB back Aug 08 21:23:48 I'll try meta-doctor again Aug 08 21:26:32 did you have some option in the meta doctor to resize swap or whatever? Aug 08 21:30:06 Hows it going everyone Aug 08 21:30:33 I have an uber-kernel question if anyone has some time Aug 08 21:30:59 ok Aug 08 21:31:31 I have a sprint pre2, applied the starfighter kernel, everything was fine. saw uberkernel came out with 1.1 OC. Aug 08 21:31:38 i removed starfigher Aug 08 21:31:50 tried to apply uberkernel and it stopped booting Aug 08 21:32:10 ran the doctor to get it back and tried to apply uberkernel again Aug 08 21:32:23 same thing, wouldnt boot Aug 08 21:33:00 re-doctored and now id like to get uberkernel but want to know how i can clear out whatever is causing it to not boot Aug 08 21:33:46 * oilsworkn has never seen that Aug 08 21:33:56 * uNiXpSyChO blames oil Aug 08 21:33:59 lol Aug 08 21:34:03 :/ Aug 08 21:34:06 uNiXpSyChO: hey! Aug 08 21:34:49 could there be something left over from starfighter? Aug 08 21:35:03 doubt it Aug 08 21:35:05 after a doctor, nothing should be "left over" Aug 08 21:35:29 ohh, i did try applying the palm pre 2 kernel after this latest doctor Aug 08 21:35:31 just in case Aug 08 21:35:41 im a little gunshy to try uberkernel again Aug 08 21:35:49 that should have cleaned it up Aug 08 21:36:03 should i just try it anyway? Aug 08 21:37:38 why not. do it before installing govnah Aug 08 21:37:55 dont you date blame govnah! Aug 08 21:37:56 heh Aug 08 21:37:57 i already have that installed Aug 08 21:38:18 LOL. i'm not blaming govnah. just saying to try it after clean Doctor :-) Aug 08 21:38:43 Everybody blame oil, that's just how it works Aug 08 21:39:39 one difference is my first doctor was with my meta-doctor. the second was the WR 2.1 stock unlocked doctor Aug 08 21:41:26 AtomicPlayboy: its only funny because its never my fault Aug 08 21:41:37 oilsworkn: I figured Aug 08 21:42:46 * PatrickC doesn't blame oilsworkn anymore Aug 08 21:42:53 its all AtomicPlayboy's fault! Aug 08 21:43:10 Because I'm the most influential person here Aug 08 21:43:25 yep Aug 08 21:43:35 Every piece of code I've ever written has worked flawlessly, so if any of my code ever breaks, the world will end Aug 08 21:43:53 oilsworkn code never breaks Aug 08 21:44:01 no, it does Aug 08 21:44:12 (For those just joining us, I've never written a single piece of code in my life.) Aug 08 21:44:13 to think that would be bad Aug 08 21:44:20 * PatrickC failed to make a joke Aug 08 21:44:37 PatrickC: http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2005-08-24-n14.html Aug 08 21:45:09 Okay, un-meta-meta-doctor finished Aug 08 21:45:15 oldie but a goodie Aug 08 21:45:19 Let's see what the partition scheme is now Aug 08 21:45:52 any way to get rid of the timer popups in Mode Switcher? Aug 08 21:47:17 installing uber-kernel......... Aug 08 21:47:30 * oilsworkn crosses fingers Aug 08 21:47:51 millertech: if it fails again im sure rwhitby will want you to get some info from it Aug 08 21:48:33 thats kinda why i am here. I think I am a fringe case but still might be useful Aug 08 21:50:55 * millertech stares at HP logo Aug 08 21:51:24 doesnt uk have the wi boot logo? Aug 08 21:52:17 I thought the wi boot logo was only from meta-doctor Aug 08 21:52:37 Yeah, it's only from meta-doctor Aug 08 21:52:37 I believe it is Aug 08 21:52:41 yeah, thats right Aug 08 21:52:46 The kernel doesn't touch the boot loader Aug 08 21:52:50 yeah Aug 08 21:52:51 (AFAIK) Aug 08 21:53:01 its not booting Aug 08 21:53:05 some kernels display the linux boot cmd like on boot Aug 08 21:53:13 its a sprint franken pre2 Aug 08 21:53:17 can you novaterm in? Aug 08 21:53:22 ill try Aug 08 21:53:56 failed Aug 08 21:54:19 back to the dr Aug 08 21:54:41 unless there is something else i can try Aug 08 21:54:48 sorry :/ Aug 08 21:54:52 im no kernel expert so i dont know what to tell ya Aug 08 21:55:08 memboot and uninstall the kernel? Aug 08 21:55:26 What's the default /media/internal size supposed to be on the 16GB TP? Aug 08 21:55:31 Now it's showing 12.6GB Aug 08 21:55:37 uNiXpSyChO might have some insight? Aug 08 21:55:38 i have never done a memboot Aug 08 21:59:48 so what it does is it shows the HP logo, turns off then shows the HP logo and loops like that Aug 08 22:00:06 usb mode still comes up Aug 08 22:00:15 starting doctor number 3 Aug 08 22:05:01 the 1.4.5 vkb patch was an actual file, right? Aug 08 22:07:15 insight on what Aug 08 22:07:41 my kernel crash Aug 08 22:08:23 read my OP in the SR71/F104 kernel thread to find out how to memboot Aug 08 22:09:42 when it is looping, put it into recovery mode without pulling the battery and run novacom get klog:// Aug 08 22:11:39 ill try loading uberkernel again and do this. I just doctored Aug 08 22:23:24 PatrickC: egaudets 145 vkb was a hack of the "sym popup" Aug 08 22:23:37 really? :/ Aug 08 22:24:01 yeah, it edited the mojo framework Aug 08 22:24:14 * PatrickC is extracting it now to look at something Aug 08 22:25:11 and.. its an empty folder.. great Aug 08 22:25:14 wirc it is :) Aug 08 22:25:45 whats wirc gonna help with? Aug 08 22:25:57 * millertech uberkernels again Aug 08 22:26:05 making a key act like enter Aug 08 22:26:31 like an html form submit button? Aug 08 22:27:01 like the actual enter button on the phones hw kb Aug 08 22:27:17 not what wirc does heh Aug 08 22:27:38 what does the airplane button do? Aug 08 22:27:39 if it sees the enter (char 13) it runs the "send message" code Aug 08 22:27:48 the button runs the same "send message" code Aug 08 22:27:59 oh.. :/ Aug 08 22:28:07 the airplane button doesn't send a return to the text box Aug 08 22:28:17 now I need to find something else that uses the return key.. Aug 08 22:28:33 cause I don't know how webOS handles it Aug 08 22:31:56 uNiXpSyChO: I could not get it into recovery mode to run that command Aug 08 22:33:35 hwo can that be? didnt you just doctor? Aug 08 22:34:01 i re-applied the uberkernel Aug 08 22:34:05 it froze Aug 08 22:34:28 I can get it into recovery after a battery pull but that is it Aug 08 22:34:36 just ran your mem boot command Aug 08 22:34:50 i see. i thought it was boot looping. Aug 08 22:35:00 i guess not Aug 08 22:35:19 ok, now i just uninstall uberkernel? how can i find out what the error is? Aug 08 22:35:27 * oilsworkn blames uNiXpSyChO?! Aug 08 22:35:41 * uNiXpSyChO it's always a kernel problem Aug 08 22:35:52 haha Aug 08 22:36:11 if the kernel is dying on boot then nothing willbe written to disk. so we're doomed Aug 08 22:36:49 you can do a memboot to get the device up, but wont show any logs after battery pull Aug 08 22:37:14 i may not know much but i am teachable. if there is anything else I can do to ID the problem let me know Aug 08 22:38:19 * uNiXpSyChO is off to install Uber to see if my Chuck Norris Pre2 has this problem Aug 08 22:38:47 well, its a little different, millertech has a sprint-pre-2, no? Aug 08 22:38:49 I started off by first installing starfighter Aug 08 22:39:01 then removed, tried uber Aug 08 22:39:08 reboots in between Aug 08 22:39:18 * rwhitby sees some people still haven't got the message the the blame oil joke has run it's course months ago. Aug 08 22:39:31 hey rwhitby Aug 08 22:39:48 * uNiXpSyChO that message must have gone to my SPAM folder Aug 08 22:40:07 rwhitby: have you read my current issue? Aug 08 22:40:10 heh Aug 08 22:41:27 my (abused) Pre2 ooted UK just fine Aug 08 22:41:34 s/ooted/booted Aug 08 22:43:15 millertech: you're using the UK from the testing feed, right? Aug 08 22:43:32 yes Aug 08 22:44:27 i started off with F104A Aug 08 22:44:27 can you confirm the version you are using? Aug 08 22:44:37 millertech: Pre 2 ? Aug 08 22:44:42 kernel version Aug 08 22:44:46 sprint pre 2 Aug 08 22:44:59 before you clicked install... what version displayed Aug 08 22:45:01 i am installing UKv2.1.0-73 Aug 08 22:45:04 uNiXpSyChO: UK/Pre2 in testing feed is 1.1GHz no screenstate patches no override patches. Aug 08 22:45:06 ok Aug 08 22:45:17 so it's still smartreflex Aug 08 22:45:35 rwhitby: yep. i noticed. pretty plain build, just a bump in clock Aug 08 22:45:47 yeah Aug 08 22:46:12 i had installed f104A v2.1.0-70 Aug 08 22:46:29 F104 has screenstatev3 and a diff way of change voltages Aug 08 22:47:11 yeah, saw that :) Aug 08 22:47:27 I liked the performace of the 1.1, just felt better so i loaded UK to my wife's pre2 and worked perfectly Aug 08 22:47:46 so you have a wimpy Pre2? Aug 08 22:47:59 this is my second pre2 Aug 08 22:48:01 millertech: I need to head to work, will be available to debug in about 4 hours Aug 08 22:48:08 (lunchtime) Aug 08 22:48:13 * uNiXpSyChO some people would start a flame war over the word "wimpy" Aug 08 22:48:36 * rwhitby bbl Aug 08 22:48:40 ok, ill jump on later Aug 08 22:49:10 * halfhalo-work still is hoping for Touchpad kernel with higher voltages Aug 08 22:51:05 why Aug 08 22:51:21 because halfhalo is crazy? Aug 08 22:52:52 is that halfcrazy? Aug 08 22:52:55 or full crazy? Aug 08 22:53:08 full crazy Aug 08 22:53:19