**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 16 02:59:56 2011 Sep 16 03:31:31 http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPMdkkmsQAtE%26feature%3Drelated&h=SAQBh7_6uAQATBoP04TsTutT4ak5h_A86L7tiVOiRIs65hA Sep 16 04:46:36 folks Sep 16 04:51:25 hello again Sep 16 04:54:21 i was here a couple nights ago, and was walked through a webos 2 upgrade on my vzw pre + Sep 16 04:56:59 anyway, today i tried to set up the palm profile and got as far as turning on location services, and webos hung...so i removed the battery and restarted, and it hung again at the same stage of setting location services Sep 16 04:58:32 i searched the forums and found a post that suggested i redoctor the phone with the same metadoctor from the other night Sep 16 05:00:49 then sign into the palm profile (which WAS set up successfully prior to the problems with location services) and once signed in, i should be good to go Sep 16 05:00:58 is this what i need to do? Sep 16 05:18:16 Im guessing PmWifiService is what generates wpa_supplicant.conf Sep 16 05:42:25 dwc-: ping? Sep 16 05:52:10 anyone here want to work on MAP Bluetooth profile on the pre2? Sep 16 06:27:34 PatrickC_TP, Gotten far on it? Sep 16 06:27:42 somewhat Sep 16 06:28:00 I've found the binary file for the Bluetooth profiles (or what seems to be) Sep 16 06:28:16 compile strace for pre Sep 16 06:28:21 and strace it Sep 16 06:28:29 should tell you where the stuff is stored/read from Sep 16 06:59:32 getting compile errors when trying to compile strace Sep 16 07:16:40 wrea: I'm off for now. let me know what you come up with :) patrick@awesomeapps.co.cc Sep 16 07:16:51 I'll msg you a different address if that one doesn't work Sep 16 07:23:21 PatrickC_TP: what's up? Sep 16 07:23:33 I found what I was looking for Sep 16 07:23:43 ok Sep 16 07:23:50 I needed something from the backlog, and the nslu2 logs never worked for me before tonight :) Sep 16 07:32:14 Test Sep 16 07:36:08 Does wirc have trouble scrolling to the bottom properly for anyone else? Sep 16 07:36:41 sometimes yes Sep 16 07:38:40 Is it a pixi thing? Or a webos thing Sep 16 08:09:48 webos thing Sep 16 08:39:35 ~log Sep 16 08:39:35 i heard log is located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals/ and the latest log is located at http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/webos-internals.txt Sep 16 08:44:38 damn Sep 16 08:44:39 lol Sep 16 08:44:43 I need that script :) Sep 16 08:46:33 does infobot log? Sep 16 10:17:50 rhcp, no, infobot is not what does the logging Sep 16 10:18:18 nslu2-log is what does the logging... we have just taught infobot where the logs are located at Sep 16 10:24:34 cryptk, haha i remember the day we taught infobot that Sep 16 10:25:21 i requested it to be in topic. didnt quit fit and thiw was the perfect alternative! good call! ive used it many times since Sep 16 10:25:47 by the way LXDE runs really nice in chroot Sep 16 10:26:20 cryptk, i need to get synergy going for this sucker Sep 16 10:31:47 cryptk, did you have to do anything special to get it to work with x chroot? Sep 16 10:36:16 nothing special Sep 16 10:36:57 * Jack87 doesnt know how to configure synergy server... playing now Sep 16 10:37:41 http://pastebin.com/vdBZzDEC Sep 16 10:37:47 there is the one I use on my work laptop Sep 16 10:37:52 which is a synergy server Sep 16 10:37:54 sadly im in windows right now Sep 16 10:50:50 OK THIS IS COOL Sep 16 10:50:52 BUT... Sep 16 10:50:55 I AM STUCK IN CAPS Sep 16 10:51:14 cryptk, how do i not do caps while on TP? Sep 16 10:51:34 ooh shit even sound works in the chroot Sep 16 10:53:41 uhm, press shift Sep 16 10:53:49 no go Sep 16 10:53:52 sometimes the shift key gets stuck with synergy when it first conencts Sep 16 10:54:04 usually if you tap both shift keys it will un-stick Sep 16 10:54:09 ill keep playing Sep 16 10:54:35 WHILE PRESSING SHIFT I CANT TYPE Sep 16 10:54:48 AND WHEN CAPS LOCK KEY IS PRESSED TYPING STOPS THAN TO Sep 16 10:56:37 hrm Sep 16 10:56:40 I didn't get any of that Sep 16 10:56:46 ya its odd Sep 16 10:56:58 it says on the server config size that sometimes there is an issue with it Sep 16 10:56:59 scroll the mouse back and forth, then tap both shifts one at a time while it is on the TP Sep 16 10:57:11 and to turn half duplex for it which i did but still no luck Sep 16 10:57:18 ok Sep 16 10:58:01 HUM SHIFT KEYS ACT STRANGE Sep 16 10:58:27 WHEN PRESSING LEFT SHIT I CANT MOVE CURSOR BUT RIGHT SHIT WORKS Sep 16 10:58:35 damn all caps is ugly Sep 16 10:59:41 KEYBOARD DOESNT EVEN WORK WHEN I TOGGLE CAPS LOCK Sep 16 11:01:54 ya with caps offf on computer it is on on the tp Sep 16 11:02:19 and when i turn caps off on tp (as in off on the computer) tp no longer accepts keyboard input of any kind Sep 16 11:02:29 so weird Sep 16 11:04:06 intresting.. when x screen is in card view it disconnects synergy Sep 16 11:04:17 comes back when out of card view Sep 16 11:04:30 when x is brought fort Sep 16 11:05:00 rwhitby, did you have any strange casses with caps when using synergy? Sep 16 11:08:51 ill have to figure it out another day.. Sep 16 11:09:08 but cryptk good call about using synergy with x... its awesome Sep 16 11:10:39 hi guys does anyone know how I can extract a uimage multi-image on linux? Sep 16 11:16:22 im trying to install an i386 ubuntu app with --force-all Sep 16 11:17:22 COOL THING IS THAT IT INSTALLED. BUT IT DOEST ACTUALLY RUN HAHA Sep 16 11:18:18 Jack87, it will never run... wrong assembly code Sep 16 11:18:29 hk135, do you have the mkimage utilities installed? Sep 16 11:18:36 cryptk: yup Sep 16 11:18:53 AHHH I REALLY NEED TO GET SOME SLEEP BUT THIS CAPS THING IS JUST PISSING ME OFF Sep 16 11:19:03 cryptk: have tried using dd, but i recon the mulit-image header is larger than 64b Sep 16 11:19:17 hk135, yep, it is larger than 64b Sep 16 11:19:20 it is 76b Sep 16 11:19:23 cryptk: but dont know much bigger Sep 16 11:19:28 nice, thank you Sep 16 11:20:19 so strip off the first 76b with dd, then strip out the next X number of bytes (however large the kernel portion is based on mkimage -l) and then the rest is either an initrd or an initramfs Sep 16 11:20:37 cool, will have a go now Sep 16 11:20:38 hk135, I have a shell script that will do it all for you Sep 16 11:20:56 yeah, that would be awsome Sep 16 11:21:25 do you know if it is made with an initramfs or an initrd? Sep 16 11:21:41 not yet, im trying to disect the webos-doctor installer Sep 16 11:22:11 cryptk, does this make any sense to you? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9259463/Capture.PNG Sep 16 11:22:15 the sript I have splits it up and extracts the initramfs, but I will pastebin everything short of the extracting the initramfs part Sep 16 11:22:37 http://pastebin.com/i1WtVe6D Sep 16 11:23:00 Jack87, I have never used synergys in windows Sep 16 11:23:04 so I just work with config files Sep 16 11:23:15 cryptk: thanks, much appreciated Sep 16 11:23:24 hk135, np Sep 16 11:23:31 i guess i should just mess with the config file. i think all that gui does is setup a config in windws Sep 16 11:23:36 I am assuming you know how to get into an initrd and initramfs Sep 16 11:23:43 my linux install has gone too shit and i been to lazy to fix it Sep 16 11:25:44 install the 11.10 beta and aptitude install gnome-shell Sep 16 11:25:45 done Sep 16 11:26:12 hehe ill give that a shot Sep 16 11:26:24 sounds like it might actually fix my issue Sep 16 11:26:46 it will get you a working install and gnome-shell (which is far better than unity) Sep 16 11:27:17 cryptk, well installing gnome shell is what broke my ubuntu install actually Sep 16 11:27:28 unity is nice Sep 16 11:27:36 but it was in 11.04. so maybe it will play nice in 11.10 Sep 16 11:27:51 hucksy, eh. it bugs me i really gave it a chance for a few months but nah its a no go Sep 16 11:29:35 I have gnome-shell working in 11.04, but you definitely need some more advanced linux knowledge to get it all working Sep 16 11:30:45 Jack87: some bugs are horrible but over all i like unity, the way it works and the next version looks nice too Sep 16 11:32:09 i wonder how well it will play on the TP might not be too bad Sep 16 11:32:14 2d that is Sep 16 11:32:17 not 3d Sep 16 11:35:14 cryptk, im going to reboot and try again Sep 16 11:35:33 if i dont get it going kick me out of here so i go to bed Sep 16 11:35:38 :) Sep 16 11:37:43 will do... Sep 16 11:37:52 I will ipban you off the bouncer for a few hours, lol Sep 16 12:57:33 hi Sep 16 12:58:42 where can I found the last version of webos quick install ? Sep 16 12:58:52 is there an home page some where? Sep 16 13:13:46 when looking around the pre (with novacom) where can i find installed applications? Sep 16 13:15:19 Hi Sep 16 13:16:52 is the Linphone project for Webos still alive, or is it stopped due to the HP announcement? Sep 16 13:30:25 luwangui: /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm(/applications) Sep 16 13:30:47 wobremer: if it was stopped, then a while ago I guess since this project is pretty old Sep 16 13:34:30 thanks! Sep 16 13:35:38 that's bad news Sep 16 13:35:57 then it never made it beyond alpha status Sep 16 13:36:08 I'd like to get the software Sep 16 13:41:59 wobremer_, rwhitby is the one that you need to contact about that Sep 16 13:42:37 the linphone alpha is tightly controlled by rwhitby, I am not sure why it has been in alpha so long... I am not part of that project Sep 16 13:42:56 * cryptk is about to update to oneric on the home PC... livin on the edge Sep 16 15:02:16 the only way to fly Sep 16 15:29:25 PatrickC_TP, need strace still? Sep 16 15:33:18 wrea: probably Sep 16 15:36:28 how do you upload an image to the wiki to be displayed in an article Sep 16 15:36:41 Im going to work on the Xecutah page Sep 16 15:37:51 Nvm found it Sep 16 15:53:06 has anyone done X11 forwarding usng xecutah? Sep 16 15:53:17 (without chroot) Sep 16 15:56:18 What I would like is hitting a remote server via XDMCP. If I ever find myself with free time I may look into trying to get that working. Sep 16 15:57:55 Dammit. When did I disconnect and loose my nick :P Sep 16 16:14:24 wrea: ping Sep 16 16:14:45 pong Sep 16 16:14:58 did you get strace working? Sep 16 16:16:06 got it compiled and it should be good to go Sep 16 16:16:17 ok, that's good Sep 16 16:16:32 * PatrickC needs to read up on strace to see why it was suggested :) Sep 16 16:19:01 how come Impostah doesn't work on all appid's? Sep 16 16:19:12 Only free appids correct? Sep 16 16:20:41 I know that Sep 16 16:20:51 it didn't work with com.palm.app.mobilehotspot Sep 16 16:22:32 I'm not sure, but I think they may have changed sth serverside Sep 16 16:22:44 sth? Sep 16 16:22:51 the*? Sep 16 16:23:16 pcworld: your app... does it do bluetooth stuff? Sep 16 16:23:38 sth = something Sep 16 16:24:03 err... how would you imagine bluetooth be working in my app? Sep 16 16:24:29 idk Sep 16 16:24:43 I did a find on bluetooth yesterday, and your app came up a lot Sep 16 16:24:56 in Google? Sep 16 16:25:38 in novaterm Sep 16 16:25:48 I did find | grep bluetooth Sep 16 16:26:12 really? haven't done anything with bluetooth... what files did it find? Sep 16 16:26:25 in the jailfile Sep 16 16:26:54 I don't remember exactly, but it did help me :) Sep 16 16:26:57 I think the jailfile is for all apps, isn't it? Sep 16 16:27:07 I found some files I need... because of you :) Sep 16 16:27:13 only your app came up Sep 16 16:27:45 really no idea :D Sep 16 16:28:16 lol Sep 16 16:28:40 * PatrickC wonders if we have a bluetooth guru in here? :) Sep 16 16:29:21 I know where the bluetooth binary file is (or one of them) Sep 16 16:31:09 what do you want to do with them? Sep 16 16:31:40 put MAP on the pre2 and possibly even pre-/pre+ and pixi if possibly Sep 16 16:31:43 pssible* Sep 16 16:31:47 possible** Sep 16 16:34:26 MAP is file transfer? Sep 16 16:34:50 Messaging Access Profile Sep 16 16:34:54 SMS fwd'ing Sep 16 16:35:08 I think PAN is file transfer Sep 16 16:35:38 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Application:Xecutah Sep 16 16:35:41 Booyah Sep 16 16:37:35 PatrickC: btw, is it "an FTP server/client" or "a FTP server"? (I think the first is right, but I'm not sure ;)) Sep 16 16:38:17 "an" is normally only used before a vowel Sep 16 16:38:30 so I believe its "a FTP server" Sep 16 16:38:32 A, not an Sep 16 16:38:35 but I say "an" :P Sep 16 16:38:43 * PatrickC is also in the country :) Sep 16 16:38:54 Can Xecutah run on a Pre, Pixi? Sep 16 16:39:30 yes iirc Sep 16 16:39:53 PatrickC: Abyssul: but don't you pronunciate FTP "ef tea ...", so a vowel at the beginning? that's why I'm not sure Sep 16 16:40:06 yeah.. same here Sep 16 16:40:07 lol Sep 16 16:40:22 Idk. Im a CS major, not English Sep 16 16:42:04 I wonder how many articles I have create to get a + :p Sep 16 16:42:40 lol Sep 16 16:56:34 hmmm... 10 min for an app preview is definitely too long... Sep 16 17:01:00 preview? where. Sep 16 17:06:28 NuttyBunny_TP: I'm trying to make a preview video of my app Sep 16 17:07:25 pcworld: "if you have the app, you know what it does" Sep 16 17:07:46 description :-) Sep 16 17:08:07 that would be the short version :) Sep 16 17:08:45 lol Sep 16 17:29:08 rwhitby: http://ompldr.org/vYWRvbw any idea? Sep 16 17:32:05 or anyone who has experience with Xecutah.. Sep 16 17:43:10 hoot Sep 16 17:43:26 Ya i got my Veer today =) Sep 16 17:43:49 it is so small and sexy Sep 16 17:50:10 RichT23: cool! Sep 16 17:50:23 RichT23: what color did you get? Sep 16 17:50:37 pink/purple? Sep 16 18:03:57 can anyone tell me the factory governor setting of an pre3 ? Sep 16 18:08:20 I bet someone can Sep 16 18:08:24 but not I Sep 16 18:08:35 RichT23: don't put a micro sim in there. or micro sim adapter. Sep 16 18:18:28 Trying to install Xecutah on an 3.0.2.652 emulator from Preware fails: seems like the package is never really downloaded, but it says "Launch" although the app is never installed. /var/log/messages shows: 2011-09-16T18:17:27.078019Z [256] qemux86 user.crit LunaSysMgr: {LunaSysMgrJS}: org.webosinternals.preware: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'style' of undefined, palmInitFramework506:14081 Sep 16 18:19:08 that style error is usual Sep 16 18:19:37 do you install the i686 version of Xecutah, if there is any? Sep 16 18:20:49 pcworld: ok, so I don't see anything else Preware realted in the log. I can install using Internalz by downloading the ipk. I installed whatever package Preware downloads from the public feed. Sep 16 18:22:18 pcworld: what? i686 version of Xecutah? Xecutah is a webOS app Sep 16 18:22:49 summatusmentis: sagi wants to install on the emulator Sep 16 18:23:01 oh Sep 16 18:23:15 well, afaik there's no i686 version Sep 16 18:23:40 I did find an i686 version in the feeds, but palm-install fails to install it too: Sep 16 18:24:05 I'm obviously way out of my leage and don't know what I'm talking about Sep 16 18:24:25 >> palm-install org.webosinternals.xecutah_0.9.0_i686.ipk >> installing package org.webosinternals.xecutah_0.9.0_i686.ipk on device "emulator" {ef78a1d370646748908d7503b3ff22be9a311b09} tcp 51485 >> palm-install: install failed with status: FAILED_IPKG_INSTALL Sep 16 18:25:19 I got Black =) Sep 16 18:25:41 * RichT23 is distracted... Doc Who is on Sep 16 18:28:49 http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/i686/org.webosinternals.xecutah_0.9.0_i686.ipk3 Sep 16 18:28:54 oops: http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-internals/i686/org.webosinternals.xecutah_0.9.0_i686.ipk Sep 16 18:29:09 idk if thats a valid package or a placeholder though Sep 16 18:29:45 That's the one I tried, I assume it's valid- although it's tiny (~90K) Sep 16 18:30:30 It has barely any images and just calls the xterm and xserver apps and services Sep 16 18:31:05 Amv7 is ~ same size Sep 16 18:31:12 Abyssul: isnt that what its spost to do? Sep 16 18:31:56 oh sagi even... Sep 16 18:31:58 Yea, just expressing why the app is so small Sep 16 18:31:59 ;) Sep 16 18:32:27 sry i did the wrong name =) Sep 16 18:32:49 Abyssul: so Preware installs the xserver/services as dependencies? Sep 16 18:32:57 sagi, yes Sep 16 18:33:24 xserver and xterm arnt in i686 yet. Sep 16 18:33:47 I just posted the directions there because technically the app is in the feed and there might be support later for it Sep 16 18:34:00 So maybe that's why it fails? Sep 16 18:34:19 idk, talk to the devs about it. I just made the wiki and barely use the app :\ Sep 16 18:35:00 Abyssul: thanks Sep 16 18:47:57 right there we go Dr Who done Sep 16 18:48:25 now to try work out why the veer wont connect to novacom Sep 16 18:49:18 in dev mode? Sep 16 18:52:43 yup Sep 16 18:53:49 RichT23: latest novacom I guess? Sep 16 18:53:59 wasjust about to ask that :) Sep 16 18:54:01 was just * Sep 16 18:55:39 err i found a link on the palm site... today Sep 16 18:55:47 let me check the version Sep 16 18:57:50 1.0.76 Sep 16 18:58:45 Im currently running bumtooth 64 Sep 16 18:59:00 * PatrickC doesn't have a veer so he is no help Sep 16 19:02:06 Oh and magic Sep 16 19:02:13 it just worked this time Sep 16 19:02:30 lol Sep 16 19:03:47 must of just not worked to anoy me Sep 16 19:04:02 just need a newer version of preware now =) Sep 16 19:04:26 :) Sep 16 19:04:44 http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2011/09/cdc-lung-cancer-rates-drop-dramatically.html?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=pbs Sep 16 19:04:53 definition of preware: awesomeness Sep 16 19:06:34 Hello everyone. I would really appreciate if someone could help me with the following problem of my palm pre: I bought an unlocked Palm Pre from UK (European Version, as far as I understand) to use it in Cyprus, but it does not allow me to create a Palm profile. It returns the message "“unable to write settings”. I visited the web site about metadoctor and also the precentral forum relevant post, but I did not understand Sep 16 19:11:48 cool Preware sorted... Sep 16 19:12:18 i just remembered though, i would like a less AT&T version of webos Sep 16 19:12:39 less at&t? Sep 16 19:12:41 stupid apps i can not use! takeing up loads of space Sep 16 19:12:57 those can be removed Sep 16 19:14:06 They can oh cool, Sep 16 19:14:23 is there an app for that? Sep 16 19:16:35 na, you need to manually remove them afaik Sep 16 19:17:13 PatrickC, what was the bluetooth binary you found? Sep 16 19:17:27 /usr/bin/PmBtEngine Sep 16 19:17:30 line... Sep 16 19:17:32 lemme see Sep 16 19:18:04 arr i can just use the cl pkg tool to remove them then? Sep 16 19:18:04 5913 Sep 16 19:18:07 on the touchpad Sep 16 19:18:32 RichT23: I just go into /usr/palm/applications and rm -rf them Sep 16 19:18:39 hello? Sep 16 19:18:51 hassomebrains: hi! Sep 16 19:19:01 ) Sep 16 19:19:01 hey hasnobrains Sep 16 19:19:05 nice nick ;) Sep 16 19:19:39 PatrickC/RichT23: why rm -rf default apps? Sep 16 19:19:48 more space/not used Sep 16 19:19:58 stupid apps i can not use! takeing up loads of space Sep 16 19:20:16 so, does anybody here knows how to catch screen tap??? Sep 16 19:20:25 PatrickC: Oh joy Sep 16 19:20:41 what? Sep 16 19:21:08 so no pkgs for default apps how norty Sep 16 19:21:26 they are in /usr/palm/applications? Sep 16 19:22:01 anybody? Sep 16 19:22:34 this is not a dev channel Sep 16 19:22:37 #webos for that Sep 16 19:23:34 :-/ Sep 16 19:23:57 There is a library that it opens - /usr/lib/libPmBtOs.so Sep 16 19:32:25 doh the uk veer rom is only at 2.1.1 Sep 16 19:48:57 http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/ele/2590991489.html Sep 16 19:48:59 whoa! Sep 16 19:49:13 a palm pre that supports external hard drives ;) Sep 16 19:49:14 lol Sep 16 19:49:26 lol Sep 16 19:52:13 Do those really go for that much? Sep 16 19:52:42 yes Sep 16 19:52:54 pre2s on ebay, last I checked, are like $200 Sep 16 19:55:07 Damn, last I looked the Pre 2's were at $150 Sep 16 19:55:12 found one for 150 Sep 16 19:55:27 just gotta filter out the greed Sep 16 19:55:40 touchpad++ Sep 16 19:55:41 =) Sep 16 19:56:20 thats way too expensive Sep 16 19:56:22 re pre2 Sep 16 19:58:16 pre2 is awesome though Sep 16 19:58:42 Might be getting one Sep 16 19:59:33 * PatrickC hopes the pre3 is as good as pre2 Sep 16 19:59:47 PatrickC: How could it not be? Sep 16 19:59:53 less ram? Sep 16 19:59:56 * Xuzz hopes he gets his soon and is awesome. Sep 16 20:00:05 PatrickC/Xuzz: has less available RAM than Pre Plus/2 Sep 16 20:00:09 * PatrickC hopes his arrives soon Sep 16 20:00:13 only about 380 MB I think Sep 16 20:00:29 and only something like 5.3GB available flash Sep 16 20:00:31 but a 1.4GHz processor? right Sep 16 20:00:32 Okay, less RAM. But a real screen, faster CPU, thinner, etc. Sep 16 20:00:41 and not too tiny to UAE Sep 16 20:00:42 Use Sep 16 20:00:46 anyone in here have one? Sep 16 20:01:07 I have one waiting to be forwarded to me from the UK :< Sep 16 20:01:15 I have one shipping soon Sep 16 20:01:27 I'm wondering what kernels are out/speed :) Sep 16 20:01:43 uNiXpSyChO|Zzzzz: you have a pre3 yet? Sep 16 20:03:25 I think rwhitby has one Sep 16 20:04:44 Oh i want a Pre3 too Sep 16 20:05:05 I'm gonna be happy with my veer, I think Sep 16 20:05:42 summatusmentis: they are very nice Sep 16 20:05:52 too small Sep 16 20:05:54 just got mine today Sep 16 20:06:05 Perfect for a work phone Sep 16 20:06:18 wait.. the pre3 really only has 5.3GB space? Sep 16 20:06:22 lame Sep 16 20:09:44 available to the OS at least (but not sure) Sep 16 20:10:00 I hope there's more Sep 16 20:10:40 rwhitby tweeted about it some months ago Sep 16 20:11:12 err *weeks Sep 16 20:13:45 Question about UbuntuChroot: anyone know why creating a disk image in /media/internal would break USB connectivity, as the article hints at? Sep 16 20:15:50 bsiegel: because it's unmounted when going into usb mode Sep 16 20:16:23 but I've heard that when you put an img in cryptofs it gets at least suspended/goes in a sleep state or whatever Sep 16 20:16:56 ah, so maybe ideally somewhere outside of both of those locations... but you'd have to leave the root partition in rw mode for that Sep 16 20:17:23 that's no problem, but there 's too less space Sep 16 20:17:41 you can just unmount the image before going into usb mode, should work Sep 16 20:24:16 can anyone tell me the factory governor setting of an pre3 ? I accidentally set it to the "pre" profile in govnah, and hat it at 100-600MHz, Userspace. Not sure what to set it back to. (ondemand 100-1.4GHz? userspace 100-1.4GHz?) Sep 16 20:26:43 Dthought, pull the battery on the pre3. Resets the governor to default Sep 16 20:26:57 (while its on) Sep 16 20:27:41 hey Abyssul-TP: what's up? Sep 16 20:28:12 Work and wiki creating for webos internals :-P Sep 16 20:29:18 lol Sep 16 20:30:02 Abyssul-TP: well, yes. i could do a hard reset, too, i think... Sep 16 20:30:03 *sigh* Sep 16 20:30:18 No onehasnt maee A 2.2 upgrade for pre2? Im a sad panda Sep 16 20:30:34 yeah. the hardware watchdog still works *G* Sep 16 20:30:34 not yet Sep 16 20:30:57 Regular reset wont reset the kernel settings Sep 16 20:32:10 PatrickC: u should take the webos tar and extract it into a pre2 doctor Sep 16 20:32:27 umm.. I wonder if that would work...... Sep 16 20:32:38 Abyssul-TP: I just might do that Sep 16 20:33:12 Ima look at the metadoctor makefile Sep 16 20:36:43 okay: the default governor settings seem to be ondemandtcl - 122.88MHz..1.4016GHz , sampling 0.2 up threshold 95%, down differential 3 , do not ignore nice loads, powersave bias 0, tickle&floor window 3secs Sep 16 20:37:02 DThought: you have a pre3? Sep 16 20:37:05 U think it would. All metadoctor does is combine the cdma firmware tar, webos tar, and carrier tar into a custom .jar Sep 16 20:37:21 Dthought, put that in the wiki or something Sep 16 20:37:24 PatrickC: yeah Sep 16 20:37:38 DThought: carrier? Sep 16 20:37:45 o2 germany Sep 16 20:38:03 usb size? Sep 16 20:38:08 I'm getting one soon Sep 16 20:38:12 just wondering :) Sep 16 20:38:29 got it from ebay... the person who did buy it from the store did make quite some bucks... Sep 16 20:38:40 Usb size is like 5-6 gb with only 320 mb of ram o Sep 16 20:38:46 320MB? Sep 16 20:38:51 oh Sep 16 20:38:56 Something small Sep 16 20:39:20 Abyssul-TP: really? thats all they do? re: metadoctor Sep 16 20:39:33 Something how the snapdragon arch is limiting the available ram to the OS Sep 16 20:39:59 PatrickC: mostly. Look at the scripts in notepad++ Sep 16 20:40:00 PatrickC, ya.. pre3 is a bit disappointing when it comes to specs Sep 16 20:40:51 Abyssul-TP: NP++?? eww... Sep 16 20:41:02 5.41G media partition... 6.84G store volume group Sep 16 20:41:04 hmm Sep 16 20:41:07 Jack87: mines a AT&T Sep 16 20:41:43 PatrickC, how did you get your hands on one of those? Sep 16 20:41:57 Or just here http://git.webos-internals.org/tools/meta-doctor/tree/scripts/meta-sprint-franken-unlocked-pre2-2.1.0 Sep 16 20:41:59 ebay Sep 16 20:42:42 PatrickC, link me... i want to see this Sep 16 20:42:50