**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 22 02:59:56 2011 Sep 22 03:00:04 green--: hold power button for 5 seconds should get you a reset option Sep 22 03:00:27 rwhitby: nope, only "power off" Sep 22 03:00:36 oh, yeah, that's a patch :) Sep 22 03:00:36 hewball: oh wow, that is super intuitive. Thanks! Sep 22 03:00:43 my first pixi, which I had last december, used to run about 65f on uberkernel Sep 22 03:00:45 yeah. device info then Sep 22 03:00:51 bit patch? ;) Sep 22 03:01:06 I left it on my heater over night, bricked it. Sep 22 03:01:13 fahrenheit? Thats cold Sep 22 03:01:30 c* Sep 22 03:01:37 ;) Sep 22 03:01:38 I forgot what patch I used Sep 22 03:01:40 lol Sep 22 03:03:07 * fudge_palm is away: reboot Sep 22 03:07:02 rwhitby: neat, thanks Sep 22 03:34:14 i didnt find a luna-send command to take a camera shot, or video frame capture Sep 22 03:34:33 is there something to get it straight off the /dev/video0? Sep 22 03:42:20 rwhitby: on the updated wiki page, under what scenarios does USB connectivity break for /media/internal? How much slower would a disk image be? Sep 22 03:44:13 you can't go into USB mode Sep 22 03:44:48 oh, duh, because the disk image is open Sep 22 03:46:07 also, can I just say? Thanks for making meta-doctor so flipping easy. my FrankenPre2 process was a piece of cake Sep 22 03:48:38 summatusmentis: you just NOW made a franken pre 2? Sep 22 03:49:08 yeah, I've been rocking a pre- w/ 2.1 for a long time Sep 22 03:49:24 pre2s were ~$200 on ebay pre-firesale Sep 22 03:49:45 is there something like arecord for the camera? Sep 22 03:59:42 hi, anyone in here? Sep 22 04:00:17 yep Sep 22 04:02:58 heyhey: what's up? Sep 22 04:03:29 I am an expat living in Singapore. I just found out that I don't have access to paid apps here. I bought mine on ebay but the touchpad was also sold through retailers here. I am at a loss. This is very disappointing. Sep 22 04:06:48 heyhey: doctor the device, tell it you're in the US when you log into it again, then get a US debit card Sep 22 04:07:27 hey rwhitby Sep 22 04:08:59 thanks Whitby. I'll check it out. Sep 22 04:12:24 that ain't good... I turned on freeTether on the touchpad... and it rebooted... O_o Sep 22 04:14:57 PatrickC why, if the unit only has 1 internet connection would you *ever* try it? Sep 22 04:15:10 ka6sox: USB tether Sep 22 04:15:33 I.... thats.... Sep 22 04:15:39 my brain hurts now Sep 22 04:15:51 and you also use freeTether to tether other phones to the touchpad via bluetooth Sep 22 04:15:58 so there's another reason Sep 22 04:16:00 * ka6sox takes 2 exceedrin and goes to bed. Sep 22 04:16:34 ka6sox: night Sep 22 04:18:06 ok.. USB tether triggers a reboot on the touchpad. I can reproduce it.. Sep 22 04:19:02 good..that means you can fix it too. Sep 22 04:19:15 that.. I can't do.. lol Sep 22 04:22:32 how do i run these javascripts from the command line? Sep 22 04:22:40 is there an intepreter? Sep 22 04:31:58 is there some way to call this method from luna-send? this.controller.stageController.pushScene? Sep 22 04:46:46 anyone with a pre3 lurking? Sep 22 04:49:38 PatrickC_: heh, you were trying to share a wifi connection with a device over USB? Sep 22 04:49:46 yep Sep 22 04:49:51 it worked using the pre2 Sep 22 04:49:57 crashes touchpad Sep 22 04:50:18 probably since nobody has bothered getting the freetether stuff working on webos 3.x at all yet I imagine Sep 22 04:50:30 probably Sep 22 04:54:23 haha i had to wifi<-->usb tether in my girlfriend's apartment since she didn't have a wireless card xD Sep 22 04:55:30 "just use your veer as a wireless card, grab freetether from preware" :) Sep 22 04:55:41 my desktop doesn't have a wireless card :) Sep 22 04:55:56 althuogh interestingly it didn't perform very well at _all_--enough that i'd be interested in why. Sep 22 04:56:10 * PatrickC_ loves the power of homebrew Sep 22 04:56:18 thanks rwhitby, and all! Sep 22 04:56:26 PatrickC_: yeah, taht was the issue. she just got new internet and router's in other person's room and didn't have a chance to run wires yet Sep 22 04:56:28 I now have an awesome new default browser on my touchpad! Sep 22 04:56:36 ah Sep 22 04:56:45 PatrickC_: oh? Sep 22 04:56:59 ~. Sep 22 04:56:59 methinks ~. is not the escape sequence you're looking for. Sep 22 04:57:05 dtzWill: I edited Advanced Browser to be able to set it as default Sep 22 04:57:31 I'm talking with Martin (if he'll ever get back with me) about having a patch/homebrew version with that feature Sep 22 05:01:26 oh, that would be spiffy. :) love advanced brower, but not having it as the default is a pain. Sep 22 05:02:15 christr: I'm working on it :) Sep 22 05:02:23 I'll update here once I get an update Sep 22 05:06:19 cool. :) Sep 22 05:13:37 rwhitman: awesome! thanks for the update. seems to be workign nicely, each card has the proper DISPLAY var set. Sep 22 05:14:09 err rwhitby sorry. ;) i know a rob whitman hence the oops. Sep 22 05:14:38 christr: hi Sep 22 05:17:20 heya, tnx for the xterm update. so far so good. a few more vars then before in the environment, so i'll poke around a bit to see if anything broke, but not likely. Sep 22 05:17:47 mostly upstart and dbus stuff Sep 22 05:18:27 which may be handy cause the upstart job name should tell you what app called the xterm Sep 22 05:19:01 yeah, can't really imagine any of it doing anything 'bad'. this will probably fix up the TigerVNC guys' stuff as well. I'll update my scripts when it this moves to regular preware. Sep 22 05:22:24 so here's a hopefully silly question--can one use 'incredible!' to check into places on foursquare? Sep 22 05:36:37 hi SineOt Sep 22 05:36:49 you going to be @ SCALE this year? Sep 22 05:37:18 dunno Sep 22 05:39:28 mmmm... scale.... Sep 22 05:48:31 maybe HP will be there again Sep 22 05:48:34 and I can win a pre3 this time Sep 22 05:48:35 .... Sep 22 05:48:52 lol Sep 22 05:49:39 can Impostah redeem a promo code if a person doesn't have a credit card hooked to their account? Sep 22 05:50:14 as far as I recall you can't redeem any promo's without a CC attached. tho, doesn't mean that CC has to have any available money. :) Sep 22 05:50:47 ka6sox: what time is it this year? Sep 22 05:51:01 christr: heh. its for someone who posted on forums I mod... they are in Greece with a touchpad activated in the UK with no UK CC Sep 22 05:52:44 SineOt, Jan 22nd-25th Sep 22 05:53:02 but its the weekend thats important :D Sep 22 05:53:41 PatrickC_: you have impostah installed, right? What button would you press to redeem a promo code? Sep 22 05:53:55 rwhitby: I looked, didn't see one Sep 22 05:54:04 wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything Sep 22 05:54:21 "Never get between lawyers and money" Sep 22 05:54:30 ah Sep 22 05:54:43 I'll take that answer as it won't ever get in there :) Sep 22 05:57:09 Patrick: Ahh, I hate it when that happens.... same issue when I want to top up my Orange UK prepaid card... i'm in the US. Used to be able to till they got all 'secure'. :( now I just have a friend buy the vouchers for me and I paypal him the cash. hah Sep 22 05:57:39 I'm in the US, this is for someone who posted on forums I mod :) Sep 22 05:58:28 http://www.tabletsupportforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=270&p=1043#post1043 Sep 22 05:58:42 ka6sox: I think I could make that Sep 22 05:59:10 put it down. Sep 22 05:59:22 I'll mark you down as a probable. Sep 22 06:00:00 ka6sox: it's a Sunday through Wednesday? Sep 22 06:00:34 yay! more people this year Sep 22 06:00:54 funky days Sep 22 06:01:06 wait Sep 22 06:01:15 fri-sun works better I think Sep 22 06:01:18 so hello Sep 22 06:01:18 I have my days wrong then. Sep 22 06:01:28 hey technikfreak45 Sep 22 06:01:32 its last weekend of January I guess. Sep 22 06:02:06 * halfhalo promises to not bring a windows laptop this time Sep 22 06:02:07 man am I wrong Sep 22 06:02:15 lol... Sep 22 06:02:28 but who's going to skype rod Sep 22 06:02:46 20-22ond Sep 22 06:03:43 dwc- im pretty sure there is skype for mac. if not, vm! Sep 22 06:03:56 * PatrickC_ needs to update his patch to work with Advanced Browser Sep 22 06:04:00 there is one Sep 22 06:04:06 well, what makes bringing a mac better than bringing a windows laptop Sep 22 06:04:21 don't care... Sep 22 06:04:29 I use whats handy. Sep 22 06:04:37 * dwc- still has windows on his laptop Sep 22 06:06:15 * halfhalo has a windows vm purely for zune on his mac, plus an ubuntu vm for webosy stuff Sep 22 06:08:50 TP for webOS'y stuff, mac for mac stuff, w7 for windozey stuff. Sep 22 06:09:01 and same apps on all 3. Sep 22 06:10:47 ka6sox: okay, I put it down to 20-22, Friday through Sunday Sep 22 06:11:16 also: someone needs to hardcore mod their touchpad with Plastidip Spray Sep 22 06:11:23 ? Sep 22 06:11:28 surprised at how smooth this stuff ends up Sep 22 06:11:39 halfhalo: basically soft touch rubber in a can Sep 22 06:11:47 THAT EXISTS?!?!? Sep 22 06:17:09 uh, yeah? Sep 22 06:17:15 I just did the back of my Nexus S in it XD Sep 22 06:17:56 I'll get some shots in a moment Sep 22 06:18:12 (best part is that I bought it on Google's dime thanks to their 10$ credit for Google Wallet! :B ) Sep 22 06:35:03 halfhalo: http://cl.ly/2y0R1y0Z2j2K181V2c0h Sep 22 06:35:34 that's the Plastidip stuff. Was 5.90 at Homedepot. There's some super smooth spray you can get online but it's like 40$ a can. Sep 22 06:35:52 how hard was it to apply? Sep 22 06:37:21 Not very. It's basically spray paint. Just make a few passes, let it dry for 30 minutes, repeat. I did a total of 4 coats Sep 22 06:38:04 hardest part is making sure that you get it around the lip on the casing. Any exposed edge will peel off pretty easily if you keep rubbing on it… Which is nice if you screw up, since it's stupid easy to peel off and redo Sep 22 06:41:26 hmm. now i may try that... Sep 22 06:41:47 halfhalo: yeah, I think it'd look pretty killer on a Touchpad Sep 22 06:42:06 although on something like that using the 40$ a can stuff might be better. 40$ is a lot to drop to do one touchpad though Sep 22 06:44:02 i have more than one though Sep 22 06:46:04 hi Sep 22 06:50:20 halfhalo: the nicer one is made by Alsa… Can't find a link for it right now but I know it exists SOMEWHERE Sep 22 06:51:31 Alsa Killer Cans Soft Touch I think. I can find it in clear but I know I've seen a black somewhere Sep 22 07:09:37 This guys just keeps getting better and better: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17731373 Sep 22 07:10:34 lol Sep 22 07:11:15 hey, free entertainment Sep 22 07:12:07 why pay $80 to watch dave chapelle sit on stage and chain smoke cigarettes when you can get amusement like that Sep 22 07:22:18 dwc-: because they're probably a bar? ;D Sep 22 07:23:05 … THERE is. Derp. Sep 22 07:24:58 so, webosdoctor is not recreating lvm from scratch, huh? Sep 22 07:33:28 no, it usually leaves existing stuff alone if it looks ok Sep 22 07:34:02 and can actually do non-destructive resizing of store-media if needed to add an LV Sep 22 07:46:39 rwhitby: lol! Sep 22 08:09:16 if any one see PatrickC let him know i seem to have resolved the password issue Sep 22 08:10:12 oh, is that your bnc Sep 22 08:10:19 that he's using Sep 22 08:13:34 ya or it will be =) Sep 22 08:21:04 hm, is it worth releasing my patch that is literally just "show more all-day calendar items at once"? Sep 22 08:21:21 (one line of CSS change for a max-height: property) Sep 22 08:25:17 sure, esp if it's Tweaks enabled so people can add even more if they want Sep 22 09:34:13 drowl: hoot Sep 22 09:34:46 joy Sep 22 09:37:14 ok turns out it helps if your not trying to connent to a port other then 80 if your on a network that only allows port 80 Sep 22 09:47:27 ;) Sep 22 09:59:49 hi, I don't support anyone has a suggestion to create a solution to this; Sep 22 09:59:53 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7509675/how-to-take-a-picture-using-command-line-on-webos-on-hp-touchpad Sep 22 10:01:16 Hi all, hope someone is here Sep 22 10:01:18 tolland: luna-send some words? Sep 22 10:01:33 I have a problem with executah Sep 22 10:01:44 ~ask Sep 22 10:01:44 Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. Sep 22 10:02:20 It launches ubuntu chroot really slowly Sep 22 10:03:27 I mean I tapped ubuntu chroot to paunch and I had to wait one minute before xserver and ubuntu would launch Sep 22 10:03:50 Is this normal ? Sep 22 10:04:05 RichT23: I dont get you Sep 22 10:05:19 grasshoper: did u make more than 1 try ? was it different before ? Sep 22 10:07:05 Douilspee: yes it was different: this is the first time I use the latest version of executah, so before xserver launched insta tly and ubuntu ditto Sep 22 10:07:54 I tapped once, and nothing happened, so I waited a few seconds and tapped twice... Etc Sep 22 10:08:34 Now, every minute a new Instance of ubuntu appears in a card ^^ Sep 22 10:08:45 lol Sep 22 10:08:49 reboot maybe Sep 22 10:09:20 Yeah I'll try, but it was already a somewhat fresh reboot Sep 22 10:09:54 Ok, I'll come back here to tell the result of the reboot Sep 22 10:10:12 Cause it was a simp.e luna restart Sep 22 10:10:34 (goddamn virtual keyboards!!) Sep 22 10:10:55 ["wIRC"] !! Sep 22 10:12:50 i read somewhere that the audio capture service was backed by a call to arecord, is there an example of that I can look at? Sep 22 10:20:48 Douilspee: thanks it worked Sep 22 10:21:14 So good to know that a simple luna restart is not enough Sep 22 10:22:02 It should be proposed to reboot entirely when upgrading xecutah and the like ;) Sep 22 10:25:09 \o/ Sep 22 11:21:39 i'm going to write a pdf-viewer based on mupdf, should I start with palm-pdk? Sep 22 11:22:30 I have almost no idea about HTML, JS and CSS Sep 22 13:21:33 PatrickC__: hoot Sep 22 13:24:57 PatrickC: Hoot Sep 22 13:25:10 YEP!!! Sep 22 13:25:17 well, YEP! Sep 22 13:27:11 PatrickC: i enabled the NickServ... so it _can_ auto auth you Sep 22 13:27:22 cool! Sep 22 13:27:39 and now I'm identified :) Sep 22 13:28:15 http://wiki.znc.in/Nickserv Sep 22 13:36:21 please, how I can get request log from serviceRequest of palm://com.palm.downloadmanager/ ? Sep 22 15:08:52 yay someone got xecutah working for arch ARM on a touchpad Sep 22 15:09:30 wait... what? Sep 22 15:10:01 archlinux works in a chroot on the touchpad now, just like ubuntu and debian Sep 22 15:10:06 with X too Sep 22 15:10:17 oh, as in archlinux Sep 22 15:10:36 I thought you were saying someone got xecutah working on the ARM architecture on the touchpad Sep 22 15:11:36 which is, afaik the only architecture on the touchpad, so obviously xecutah works Sep 22 15:11:41 why is xecutah needed to run Xserver? Sep 22 15:12:01 I thought that you can run native apps built with PDK Sep 22 15:13:20 it runs an xserver in a card, and provides a mechanism to then launch other x-programs on top of that xserver Sep 22 15:19:29 it allows us to use packages without rebuilding them Sep 22 15:22:01 anyone want to test archlinux arm's chroot? rwhitby i think it's ready to be put into alpha feeds Sep 22 15:32:26 LunohoD: xecutah now helps manage the x server's, but ti's primary role is to launch things outside the jail Sep 22 15:33:46 LunohoD: which both xserver and xterm need for tty access. I'm less clear on why exactly xserver needs a controlling tty, but what do i know. Sep 22 15:34:15 but even if we 'fixed' that now, xecutah helps auto-launch x servers and the like Sep 22 15:36:30 and the alarm chroot should be up-to-date with the new xecutah Sep 22 15:36:50 i hope Sep 22 15:53:59 * dtzWill is having fun with nested xephyr's in xserver Sep 22 16:13:02 hi all Sep 22 16:13:26 how do you I achieve step 5 from this url : http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix ? thanks Sep 22 16:30:14 Re-Hi Sep 22 16:31:15 I reiterate my question since I logged with another device: Sep 22 16:32:15 On this wiki http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Netbook_Remix, in step 5, how do I proceed to copy the content of the git repo to my chroot /sbin folder ? Thanks Sep 22 16:36:00 I'm not entirely certain what you do afterwards, but you can use 'git clone' on that url to get the files Sep 22 16:37:15 the url it links to -- http://gyp.blogs.balabit.com/2011/01/using-upstart-in-a-chroot/ might explain it Sep 22 16:37:20 but I"ve gotta run, can't read it Sep 22 16:40:50 once you have a copy, you can easily move it around via terminal Sep 22 16:45:02 Ok I'll try to clone then Sep 22 16:45:04 Thanks Sep 22 16:53:40 dtzWill: got it, thanks! Sep 22 17:06:44 Ok, so accessing this git repo seems not to be possible Sep 22 17:07:18 I get a 403 error : HTTP request failed whenever I try to clone it, on my TP as well as on my mac Sep 22 17:07:54 Maybe the ubuntu netbook guide on webosinternals is outdated ? Sep 22 17:09:49 hi Sep 22 17:13:28 hey bafare Sep 22 17:15:57 how are you Sep 22 17:16:05 good Sep 22 17:16:11 I went to the kitchen lol Sep 22 17:17:47 is that a euphamism? Sep 22 17:18:08 what that means? Sep 22 17:18:16 hey jtrucks Sep 22 17:18:23 PatrickC: hi. Sep 22 17:18:42 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemism Sep 22 17:18:44 So, someone knows a clean way to install a working ubuntu-netbook ?? Sep 22 17:18:58 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/euphemism Sep 22 17:19:33 let me check Sep 22 17:20:17 got it Sep 22 17:20:27 I guess it was Sep 22 17:21:09 i mean it wasn't Sep 22 17:21:13 im confused now Sep 22 17:21:29 even tho I read the meaning of it Sep 22 17:22:06 anyways ! does anybody know I way to tether ad-hoc to hp touchpad? Sep 22 17:22:20 a way Sep 22 17:23:13 I've been working on it for a friend, got something that could be workable but I'm waiting on him to test. Sep 22 17:23:25 So far it isnt the most elegant way of doing it Sep 22 17:23:55 will it be something permanent? Sep 22 17:25:27 It requires changing a variable from a file generated at runtime Sep 22 17:25:48 Im thinking about changing cell phone that does insfrastructure ... it kills me that i can't use touchpad on the go Sep 22 17:25:57 So you have to change it everytime you reboot or shutoff and turn wifi back on Sep 22 17:27:10 hope you make it work Sep 22 17:27:53 I dont have a great adhoc setup here, so it makes working on it and testing it a bit frustrating Sep 22 17:28:11 sorry mate Sep 22 17:29:09 If startup adhoc on my laptop 50% of the time when I switch back my wifi card goes down and wont come back up Sep 22 17:32:14 seems like im gonna have another 2 year contract with wirreless company Sep 22 17:59:11 Any one know how to get the first run app to run on the Pre3 Sep 22 17:59:48 i saw something about running appslications/firstuse... but it just startd the gesture tutorial Sep 22 18:00:51 * RichT23 had to meta-doctor an image a the pre would not do networking with my sim Sep 22 18:01:23 i have no idea why as its quite happy doing data now Sep 22 18:02:20 Gesture Tutorial is how I always get it Sep 22 18:02:29 or you could do an "Erase Apps And Data" Sep 22 18:03:00 will that then forse it to do a palm profile creation? Sep 22 18:03:41 an Erase Apps and Data will, yes Sep 22 18:04:35 ok where is that done from? Sep 22 18:05:02 Device Info -> Reset Options Sep 22 18:05:19 bear in mind, this erases all apps and app data from the phone Sep 22 18:05:30 ya =) Sep 22 18:05:37 and if you have any patches, run the EPR first Sep 22 18:05:40 well i havent got much on it yet Sep 22 18:05:53 Arr best removing the patches first then Sep 22 18:06:17 yep Sep 22 18:06:30 does epr just remove them all? Sep 22 18:07:39 yep Sep 22 18:07:43 all patches Sep 22 18:07:45 iirc Sep 22 18:11:05 i'm trying to run DISPLAY=:0 on my desktop pc, but it doesn't show anything on Xserver running on TP Sep 22 18:11:17 what am I doing wrong? Sep 22 18:12:08 probably a bunch. :) i'm not sure if the server on the TP even binds the wifi interface's ip at all. then there are the xauth issues, etc. Sep 22 18:12:21 humm id suggest a `xhost +` Sep 22 18:12:29 but it seems to not exist Sep 22 18:13:00 havn't tried it, but are you for exampling sshing from the touchpad's xterm to your pc with the X app on it? if so, throw the -X flag. Sep 22 18:13:36 christr: DISPLAY is empty when i run ssh -X Sep 22 18:15:11 interesting. that should've been set going in.. actually is the display set for you in the xterm before you SSH? (do you have the latest xterm?, or set manually?) Sep 22 18:15:13 LunohoD: you could try ` -display=IP` Sep 22 18:15:55 this assumes that webos is actuly listning for incomming connections Sep 22 18:16:19 webos/xterm Sep 22 18:16:29 hey Sep 22 18:17:57 actually, -X probably is getting tossed when you run SSH, when I run it on my touchpad it ignores it... not on the list of options. (i used the palmdev package to get ssh on here) Sep 22 18:19:11 i've got OpenSSH_5.3p1 Sep 22 18:19:18 from optware Sep 22 18:20:41 ok works for me now... Sep 22 18:20:44 had to manually port forward. Sep 22 18:21:42 if you do from the touchpad, ssh -R 6000:localhost:6000 username@remote.host.com then once logged into the remote host do export DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 (assuming no X server running on this remote!!!) you can then startup xapps Sep 22 18:21:53 I got xclock to run from my debian box at home on my touchpad at work. :) Sep 22 18:24:22 Ya and i now have a palm profile =) Sep 22 18:25:48 is there some way to run the javascript examples, similar to a shell script? (I am a total newbie) Sep 22 18:26:16 palm-package sampleappfolder Sep 22 18:26:22 palm-install sampleappipkname Sep 22 18:27:11 tolland: webOS dev questions best answered in #webos :) its where all the devs hang out :) Sep 22 19:03:18 x forwarding TO the touchpad should definitely work :( Sep 22 19:03:43 that's how i tested most iterations of the X server Sep 22 19:03:53 you should you set DISPLAY before ssh'ing out? Sep 22 19:04:11 hmm well xterm should already ahve that set... Sep 22 19:05:02 yeah, the current beta xterm that was put up yesterday does that now. I got it to work using the palm dev ssh and doing a standard port forward. The other guy was using the optware ssh client trying -X .that should've worked as well. Sep 22 19:05:18 but havn't heard from him since I posted the manual port forward solution. not sure if he tried that or not. Sep 22 19:06:05 oh, i see. never touched the palm ssh so don't know about it's abilities/lack thereof. thanks for the info, for sure! :) Sep 22 19:06:23 Did -X work for you with the optware ssh? Sep 22 19:06:37 i'm pretty sure it did Sep 22 19:06:45 i'm playing fast and loose with the optware ssh and preware's ssh Sep 22 19:07:00 but i think i've used both. if it doesn't support -X it should, it was useful! Sep 22 19:07:02 ok so yeah, he's prob running the older Xterm and didn't set the DISPLAY var ahead of time. Sep 22 19:07:10 oh, for sure. Sep 22 19:07:16 it definitely didn't used to set DISPLAY Sep 22 19:07:44 great, ty. Sep 22 19:07:51 yeah, I was groveling for that last night for my lame rdp hack and rwhitby tossed it in for me. ;) Sep 22 19:08:20 haha. yeah it's hardly a big deal. i'm surprised no one asked for it before Sep 22 19:08:44 (or get annoyed enough to add the export to the script lol) Sep 22 19:09:06 prob wasn't a huge issue since I figure most just wanted a console, or to chroot anyway. it only really started to get tricky when the multi card Xecutah came into play. prior i just tossed the display var into my startup scripts. Sep 22 19:09:42 * dtzWill nods. and yeah, i suppose with a dynamically set display for the x srever you better have it exported Sep 22 19:09:47 else you have to play x-server roulette Sep 22 19:09:49 :D Sep 22 19:24:23 anyone with a pre3, please PM me Sep 22 19:24:24 hmm, my debian chroot doesn't seem to work anymore... odd. just does nothing when I try to launch from xecutah. hmm. Sep 22 19:31:57 is there a place where I can get fresh novatool binary for macosx? Sep 22 19:34:23 meg whitman lmao Sep 22 19:35:22 hello all Sep 22 19:36:17 im getting my first webos device delivered in a few days wanted to know if there was any mods you would recommend for the veer Sep 22 19:37:03 preware Sep 22 19:37:29 yea that is the jfirst thing im doing Sep 22 19:38:01 does mr battery work on the veer to show battery % Sep 22 19:38:27 i downloaded webos quick install to check out some of the apps and stuff Sep 22 19:38:35 I believe dr. battery does work Sep 22 19:38:50 sweet Sep 22 19:38:55 thanks very much Sep 22 19:39:02 ill be back when it get here Sep 22 20:08:00 http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110922006720/en/HP-Names-Meg-Whitman-President-Chief-Executive Sep 22 20:14:58 just installed impostah to dumb to figure out what to do with it Sep 22 20:15:30 help impostah Sep 22 20:15:50 well, why did you install impostah in the first place? Sep 22 20:20:56 yes and ran can look at a lot of info but kind scared to do anything Sep 22 20:21:34 not sure if I could mess up my touchpad,, guess I'll uninstall it lol Sep 22 20:23:48 wow totally read you question wrong, installed it to see what it did cause the description didnt really say what it does Sep 22 20:24:48 the description tells you everything you need to know Sep 22 20:25:32 lol as in I don't know what its for, so I shouldn't mess with it? Sep 22 20:25:54 if you have no idea what it's for then no, you shoudln't mess with it... and I'm not entirely sure how useful it would be on the touchpad anyway. Sep 22 20:25:57 Impostah does a number of things. it can erase your phone as one of them Sep 22 20:26:21 christr: very, to get passed geo restrictions Sep 22 20:26:30 and restore previous backups Sep 22 20:27:06 ah ok ... thought it was mainly a tool for phones. Sep 22 20:27:50 hi Sep 22 20:27:50 I saw the 'don't use if you dont' know what it is' remark, looked thru the rel notes and figured I wasn't gonna bother finding out more info, so I didn't touc it. :) Sep 22 20:28:07 hey Douilspee Sep 22 20:28:11 christr: I love Impostah :) Sep 22 20:28:18 is it normal i don't have acces to accounts so app manager after installing ubuntu chroot ( few days ago ) Sep 22 20:29:00 the previous backup bit looks intersting, maybe i'll dig around more with it someday. :) Sep 22 20:29:01 btw thanks patrick Sep 22 20:29:11 no erolias Sep 22 20:29:40 np* Sep 22 20:29:42 sorry lol Sep 22 20:29:46 "no erolias"?? Sep 22 20:29:51 ok lol Sep 22 20:30:20 it was suppose to be np.. "no problem" :) Sep 22 20:31:13 here is another dumb question, what is a geo restriction? Sep 22 20:31:57 geo restriction is like... Pandora.. available in the US but not anywhere else (due to legal reasons, but a good example none the less) Sep 22 20:32:37 k yeah I haven't run into one if those yet Sep 22 20:32:57 lo Sep 22 20:33:18 mt was deleting Sep 22 20:33:43 and is their anyway to turn off the auto correct? Sep 22 20:33:53 yep Sep 22 20:33:58 the "Text Assist" app Sep 22 20:34:18 cool thanks I'll look it up Sep 22 20:34:24 afk Sep 22 20:37:31 lol looked in preware, then app catalog,,,, the checked the settings tab... Sep 22 20:37:57 and thanks again Sep 22 20:38:36 no problem Sep 22 20:40:02 Hope everyone is doing well today :D Sep 22 20:41:38 would this be a good place to ask questins about and bring up tnis I would hope to see come to my touchpad? Sep 22 20:41:47 things^ Sep 22 20:43:06 like google street views, or a vent or teamspeak client Sep 22 20:44:19 there are request threads on precentral.net ... this channel is generally for discussion about the guts of WebOS itself. Sep 22 20:52:05 ok, deb chroot back to playing nice after an uninstall/reinstall. weird. Sep 22 21:13:13 can't run doctor from command line? "x11 variable not found but an operation was performed that requires it" Sep 22 21:28:08 Hello Sep 22 21:28:29 Anyone here? Sep 22 21:28:36 I've got a question. Sep 22 21:30:14 Just ask it. Sep 22 21:30:22 ~asktoask Sep 22 21:30:23