**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 27 02:59:57 2011 Sep 27 03:48:37 any way to run firstuse if it was bypassed via meta doctor ? Sep 27 03:49:02 appinfo.json is already set to visible but i don't see the ico n? Sep 27 03:49:57 nightburn: device? Sep 27 03:50:15 pre+ Sep 27 03:50:22 OS Version? Sep 27 03:50:28 2.1.0 Sep 27 03:50:38 i just put an unlocked comm board into it Sep 27 03:50:55 run gesture tutorial Sep 27 03:52:08 yea that just ran the gesture tutorial. Sep 27 03:52:36 is the comms (cell radio) part of the board on? or only the wifi? Sep 27 03:52:54 currently only wifi is on Sep 27 03:53:01 i haven't put the simm card in yet Sep 27 03:53:04 is that the problem? lol Sep 27 03:53:04 turn all radios on Sep 27 03:53:23 no sim needed, just the radio needs to be on in my experiences :) Sep 27 04:02:05 hmm put sim card, rebooted phone Sep 27 04:02:14 gesture tutorial still just launches gesture tutorial Sep 27 04:02:26 i have radio signal Sep 27 04:03:04 hmm.. and you did the "bypass activation" switch in the meta-doctor? Sep 27 04:03:29 yea Sep 27 04:03:49 well maybe not Sep 27 04:03:49 idk what's happening then Sep 27 04:03:50 sory Sep 27 04:04:09 i ran the wr-sprint-franken-pre script Sep 27 04:04:30 but i modified it to bypass first use Sep 27 04:05:47 look at the palm profile that it signed into Sep 27 04:05:58 in the accounts pref Sep 27 04:06:40 and see if it says bypassed first use Sep 27 04:07:47 palm profile is just blank Sep 27 05:07:54 is there any potential risks with mounting /media/internal in the chroot Sep 27 05:08:49 they can read/write whatever they want? Sep 27 05:30:17 is it possible to run the meta doctor for a sprint pre without the veer files? Sep 27 05:34:58 timmy321: hmm, it didn' Sep 27 05:35:11 timmy321: hmm, it didn't use to get the veer files, I wonder what's in veer that it wants Sep 27 05:35:47 timmy321: anyway why not just get them, sounds easiest? Sep 27 05:35:53 idk, not real sure just saw that in the build folder of a redoctor i did not too long ago Sep 27 05:37:24 yeah, i was just thinking of doing kind of an experiment of legacy device device only files... Sep 27 05:44:00 probably uses the veer files for flash Sep 27 06:03:17 rwhitby: any idea why preware failed on verify two stock-kernel modules (ramzswap.ko and xvmalloc.ko) on a pre3? Sep 27 06:03:33 install the recovery kernel fixed it, but it was strange anyway Sep 27 06:03:37 new pre 3 Sep 27 06:03:47 hucksy: EU QWERTZ ? Sep 27 06:03:51 yep Sep 27 06:03:56 build 3171 ? Sep 27 06:04:21 uhm, good question Sep 27 06:04:33 tap on the webos version number in device info Sep 27 06:04:38 sec Sep 27 06:04:48 hucksy: does your online palm profile give you a link to the doctor for that device? Sep 27 06:05:36 build 3165 Sep 27 06:06:05 @link - I'll check Sep 27 06:06:45 we only have a doctor and kernel source for build 3171 Sep 27 06:06:49 hence the difference Sep 27 06:07:14 I'm pretty sure UberKernel says that in the package documentation ... Sep 27 06:07:37 ah k Sep 27 06:08:30 does the doco say that? Sep 27 06:08:45 (in the preware package description) Sep 27 06:10:14 rwhitby: so I asked this a week or so ago and didnt get any answer, but basically, i was looking for a package that might have utilities such as xev and xmodmap in ipkg-opt in the hopes that that would allow me to remap keys on my HP BT keyboard to useful things like alt/esc/meta/pgdn/pgup, etc - have any ideas? Sep 27 06:11:05 rwhitby: yep, it does Sep 27 06:11:10 scorche: dunno Sep 27 06:11:26 but install the stock kernel fixed it for my without doctoring... i'll look if i get any issues ;) Sep 27 06:11:33 *me Sep 27 06:12:59 scorche, I use xev in the chroot all the time...however it is going to Xsdl Sep 27 06:14:05 ka6sox: yeah - it would be nice to be able to remap keys so they work in places other than the chroot... Sep 27 06:14:20 (as in, say, in an xterm launched by xecutah...) Sep 27 06:15:30 scorche, we haven't put many if any X11 things in optware. Sep 27 06:17:29 X11 things bring in a LOT of libs that need staging just to work. Sep 27 06:17:55 yeah - i would imagine Sep 27 06:18:05 just to install xchat in a chroot is 32MB of stuff compressed Sep 27 06:18:15 and 110MB installed. Sep 27 06:18:29 (somethign like 115 packages) Sep 27 06:18:31 happen to know of any other way off-hand that i might be able to re-map keys sent from the BT keyboard? Sep 27 06:18:36 scorche: the key bindings is not tied to any chroot Sep 27 06:18:57 you can just edit the xkb files shipped with xserver, and find the source here: http://git.webos-internals.org/x11/xkeyboard-config/ Sep 27 06:19:10 those are compiled and loaded upon every xserver launch Sep 27 06:19:58 http://git.webos-internals.org/x11/xkeyboard-config/tree/symbols/touchpad in particular Sep 27 06:22:25 look up the unicode for a given key on your keyboard, and changfe that entry to emit the corrrect symbol (many of them have names, see the supporting files for more info) Sep 27 06:22:44 for example looks like KP_Prior and KP_Next are pageup/pagedown Sep 27 06:23:24 scorche: escape support is in the works, i just need to sit down and hash out some details--but all thanks to LunohoD for figuring out how to get luna to not eat the 'escape' keypress Sep 27 06:23:43 alt should already work, meta doesn't but that's because my keyboard doesn't have a meta key more than any good reason Sep 27 06:26:05 dtzWill: well, usually alt works as a meta - for specific use, i am looking at irssi... Sep 27 06:27:17 scorche: 'alt' works here for irssi, as that's a rather important usecase for me too Sep 27 06:27:25 Someone please help. what kind of meta-doctor do i need to make to use an unlocked gsm comm board in a verizon pre+ and have it work on tmobile ? Sep 27 06:27:35 and sorry indeed, i was just brainfarting since you listed them separately, assumed you meant super or similar Sep 27 06:27:45 dtzWill: in the xterm, or in the chroot? Sep 27 06:28:29 scorche: any x server running on webos shipped via preware Sep 27 06:28:39 so including the xterm stuff, without the chroot. Sep 27 06:28:45 that *said* Sep 27 06:28:45 actually Sep 27 06:29:00 for some resaon alt doesn't work within xterm, i forget the reason. Sep 27 06:29:03 they're the same key mappings Sep 27 06:29:13 and if you launch a new process from there manually alt works or something Sep 27 06:29:33 alt being "symbol" on the BT keyboard, yes? Sep 27 06:29:34 nightburn, what article are you following? Sep 27 06:29:58 um none in particular.. im fairly experienced with this Sep 27 06:30:39 i used a WR 2.1 doctor as a source Sep 27 06:31:02 edited makefile. disabled model and carrier check Sep 27 06:31:06 installed a wifi profile Sep 27 06:31:27 but it won't sign-in OR create a new palm profile Sep 27 06:31:32 scorche: i'll get back to you. but it has nothing to do with the chroot, the mappings are set before anything runs. chroot is just an xterm that happens to run other things. Sep 27 06:31:56 nightburn: which meta-script are you basing your work on ? Sep 27 06:32:31 rwhitby: ived tried a couple different approaches but right now im not using any script Sep 27 06:32:38 scorche: issue confirmed. strange that everything *else* works (control, etc) but not alt. Sep 27 06:32:40 dtzWill: Are planning to build xterm with --wide-chars-enabled or whatever that option is called and push it to preware? I was using version you compiled for me and haven't ran into anny issues. Sep 27 06:32:50 dtzWill: ok - i am not sure where the chroot might have come into this (as i only mentioned it, as xev and xmodmap could be found there), but ok ;) Sep 27 06:32:58 rwhitby: the first time i based it off the meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre script Sep 27 06:33:05 nightburn: right, but which known-good technique embodied in the scripts are you working from? Sep 27 06:33:40 klausa: sorry, i definitely should, just been rather low on time lately and don't like pushing things when I don't have time to deal with the fallout of me breaking things ;) Sep 27 06:33:45 guess that's what alpha feeds are for. Sep 27 06:34:44 dtzWill: I just wanted to remind you, I thought you forgot about that since there was some update to xterm and it didn't came with unicode. Sep 27 06:34:48 scorche: ssh'ing to a host, and X-forwarding xev shows that 'alt_l' is definitely set when hitting 'smbol'... hmm. Sep 27 06:34:56 klausa: no, you're right, i definitely forgot :( Sep 27 06:35:20 dtzWill: exactly.. Sep 27 06:35:54 scorche: i'm inclined to think that our xterm build in it's minimal build nature somehow doesn't know what to do with alt Sep 27 06:36:14 dtzWill: sometimes you need to do this: xmodmap -e "keysym Alt_L = Meta_L Alt_L" though, there is no xmodmap that i am aware of... Sep 27 06:36:20 rwhitby: do you have a suggestion on what script I should be basing this off of? Sep 27 06:36:55 scorche: we're producing Alt_L x11 events. does your command have it produce both Meta_L *and* Alt_L ? Sep 27 06:37:09 the xmodmap command? Sep 27 06:37:25 scorche: yes, what does that do? Sep 27 06:37:36 you'll need a meta-wr-franken-verizon-pre, which is likely a meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre with masquerading added Sep 27 06:37:55 dtzWill: yes Sep 27 06:38:13 but the profile server changed the rules recently, so 2.1 on unauth devices no longer works. Sep 27 06:38:49 rwhitby: should i just go to 1.4.5 then ? Sep 27 06:39:16 dtzWill: it basically translates Alt_L into executing both expressions for each keycode Sep 27 06:39:31 nightburn: I'd try that first Sep 27 06:39:49 so, when you hit "Alt_L", it really executes both "Meta_L" and "Alt_L" Sep 27 06:40:01 rwhitby: as in try meta-wr-franken-verizon-pre first? Sep 27 06:40:33 * rwhitby doesn Sep 27 06:40:37 't see such a script Sep 27 06:40:45 scorche: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Touchpad_Bluetooth_Keyboard Sep 27 06:41:06 ah yea i was gonna say, i didnt' see that script Sep 27 06:41:29 LunohoD: oh, that looks great! Sep 27 06:41:38 sure Sep 27 06:42:26 what I'm still missing is an ability to switch layouts Sep 27 06:43:06 hi Sep 27 06:43:22 LunohoD: yeah - after we get this alt/meta thing figured out, i think the only thing missing for me is to re-map the media keys to be pgup and pgdn which it looks like shouldnt be hard with the info on this wikipage, no? Sep 27 06:43:26 LunohoD: should we create keymap patch packages? Sep 27 06:43:54 rwhitby: hm Sep 27 06:44:11 scorche: what's the issue with alt/meta? Sep 27 06:45:07 rwhitby: are you saying i should attempt to edit the meta-wr-franken-sprint-pre script . and then add masquerading? is there another script that I can steal the masquerading code from? Sep 27 06:45:32 rwhitby: what do you want to include in that packages? Sep 27 06:45:44 LunohoD: just the replacement keymap Sep 27 06:46:19 LunohoD: see the conversation with dtzWill from about 11 minutes ago, on - what it seems to be is that Alt-L is only sending Alt_L events when generally, it sends Meta_L and Alt_L for the purposes of some programs like irssi Sep 27 06:48:27 rwhitby: that would be nice, but it won't solve my problem. I want to switch between two layouts (two qmap files, US and RU) and it should be fast. Sep 27 06:48:50 LunohoD: when are the keymaps read? Sep 27 06:49:05 rwhitby: right after pairing the keyboard is done Sep 27 06:49:30 are these only used for BT keyboards, or are the used for the virtual keyboard too? Sep 27 06:49:31 maybe a script sending messages to luna will do the trick Sep 27 06:49:42 rwhitby: only for BT Sep 27 06:50:05 Once SuDoh is finished, you could write an app which does that pretty easily Sep 27 06:50:25 disable BT, exchange the keymap and enable BT again Sep 27 06:50:31 something like that? Sep 27 06:50:37 yep Sep 27 06:51:18 what is SuDoh? Sep 27 06:51:43 how do you start that script then? Sep 27 06:52:42 LunohoD: https://twitter.com/#!/webosinternals/status/118214303148015616 Sep 27 06:57:30 i'm not undestanding something, then. Sep 27 06:57:46 scorche: bummer, emitting meta_L doesn't work either. it apparently wants *both*? Sep 27 06:59:50 rwhitby: yes, but it is possible to make a shortcut (probably not) or some kind of icon in the toolbar to tigger the execution of the script? Sep 27 07:01:42 FB355UA#ABA/180-10882-00 is that 16gig TP? Sep 27 07:02:47 scorche: okay, so sending meta_l *and* setting "metaSendsEscape: true" makes irssi work. Sep 27 07:04:43 dtzWill: ah - that makes sense - were you planning on pushing a patch through, or should i just do it on my touchpad manually? Sep 27 07:06:33 i'll push it in a bit, and the wide chars. gulp. Sep 27 07:06:40 to alpha anyway, so if it breaks everything i feel less bad ;) Sep 27 07:06:56 dtzWill: nice - thanks Sep 27 07:07:41 * dtzWill goes to build armv6 variant, sigh Sep 27 07:07:45 stupid pixi :P :) Sep 27 07:08:09 lol Sep 27 07:09:23 klausa: just shipping the new xterm did the trick, no flags needed to be passed? Sep 27 07:13:45 LunohoD: so the code to use in the kmap would be "PgDn" and "PgUp" right? Sep 27 07:16:38 anyone able to help me with novaterm? everytime I connect to the TP and start typing I get an error Sep 27 07:17:13 dtzWill: -u8 in xecutah.sh Sep 27 07:17:24 * rwhitby looks into his crystal ball to see EGM92's error ... Sep 27 07:17:43 nope, too cloudy today. Sep 27 07:21:44 rwhitby: It's prolly related to novaterm, at least. Sep 27 07:23:08 klausa, scorche: pushed to alpha testing feeds, cross your fingers ;) Sep 27 07:23:13 gotta run, lmk how it goes Sep 27 07:25:06 can anyone help me with setting up the WIDK? Sep 27 07:28:15 bedrock, the guy who knows best just went to bed :D Sep 27 07:28:39 :( Sep 27 07:29:11 i guess uk and aus timezones dont mix too well Sep 27 07:29:47 bedrock, nor US :) Sep 27 07:30:10 i can cope with US, i have to deal with that in the office Sep 27 07:30:53 bedrock, 1:30am for me... Sep 27 07:31:39 12:30am fo rme. Sep 27 07:32:41 so who are the guys (guy) i need to talk with to get WIDK setup and be able to build stuff properly Sep 27 07:33:00 bedrock: what step is failing from which wiki page? Sep 27 07:33:39 i'm following http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Internals_PDK Sep 27 07:33:54 i'm fine down to make setup Sep 27 07:34:07 then it says: Once this setup is complete, compiling sdl apps for webOS is very simple Sep 27 07:34:24 here, i'm stuck, if i git clone hello, i cant (dontknow how to) build it Sep 27 07:34:48 scorche: I don't know Sep 27 07:37:34 hello is not a WIDK app Sep 27 07:37:58 ok, so what is it? Sep 27 07:38:35 i just want to get to the point where i can compile a c-service Sep 27 07:38:54 since i cant execute root commands from a Palm PDK plugin app Sep 27 07:39:40 how do it build this: http://git.webos-internals.org/applications/hello/ Sep 27 07:41:22 scorche: typing this via irssi from alpha-feed xterm/xserver Sep 27 07:41:28 lmk if it doesn't work/fix it for you. Sep 27 07:41:34 klausa: utf8 update should be there as well Sep 27 07:41:48 dtzWill: i will test it in a bit Sep 27 07:42:01 dtzWill: does -fn work with xterm? Sep 27 07:42:07 scorche: sure thing, thanks for bugging me about it :) Sep 27 07:42:29 dtzWill: thanks for working on it ;) Sep 27 07:42:30 LunohoD: dunno. if it does, idk where it'd be loading fonts from. Sep 27 07:42:32 dtzWill: I'll surely check that, but I'm at school, so I won't be able to test now. Sep 27 07:42:43 klausa: np at all, just getting back to you. Sep 27 07:43:03 Great, thanks! Sep 27 07:43:17 I need cyrillic letters to chat ;) Sep 27 07:44:02 LunohoD: It does, but the fonts are not there. Sep 27 07:44:34 If you figure out how to install them, I'll be grateful too :) Sep 27 07:44:40 klausa: that's not a problem since the scp is working Sep 27 07:44:47 IMHO Sep 27 07:45:31 bedrock: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Building_Apps_and_Kernels Sep 27 07:45:46 LunohoD: I couldn't figure out where to put then. Sep 27 07:45:49 *them. Sep 27 07:46:35 rwhitby: thanks, now why couldn't i find that page :( Sep 27 07:48:30 bedrock: you can fix that by linking it into the places where you looked. Sep 27 07:50:58 dtzWill: yay - it works wonderfully ;) Sep 27 07:58:52 hi guys. ive searched through the site looking for a patch to add yahoo to messaging. im on 1.4.5.1 with a pixi plus. any ideas how to get unified messaging with other accounts or is there another app for that? Sep 27 08:11:26 what's about rotation support in X? Sep 27 08:18:36 stalane: I don't have a pixi or 1.4.5.1 but have you tried the messaging plugins? Sep 27 08:25:59 Uhm, quick question since I'm not native speaker - 31th is wrong? Sep 27 08:26:07 It should be 31st? Sep 27 08:26:46 correct Sep 27 08:34:11 LunohoD: on that page, it says to "Download the patched kmap2qmap.cpp[1] and compile it" using that command line - is that supposed to work? I should have the qt4 packages i need... Sep 27 08:34:52 scorche: you should install qt4 devel package to compile kmap2qmap Sep 27 08:35:11 libqt4-dev on my debian machine Sep 27 08:35:33 LunohoD: yes - i have libqt4-dev, core, gui, etc Sep 27 08:36:08 ok, then compile it Sep 27 08:39:48 yes - i get a host of errors - i assume because something is not included that should be... Sep 27 08:40:22 scorche: show me the output Sep 27 08:41:02 let me pipe it to a file... Sep 27 08:44:49 LunohoD, xrandr is not currently supported. Sep 27 08:44:51 LunohoD: yes - lots of error: QFile: No such file or directory type stuff Sep 27 08:51:34 LunohoD: meh - i need to go - i will investigate this further later - thanks your your pointer to the wiki page Sep 27 08:51:41 ka6sox: it's not that hard to make it work Sep 27 08:52:09 scorche: check where the qt4 includes are located Sep 27 08:52:18 LunohoD, I'm sure it isn't its only time :D Sep 27 09:48:28 hi guys... im having trouble with the messaging plugins... installed .patch_2.5.94-armv6.ipk OK installed messagingsysfiles_2.6.1_armv6.ipk OK but fail on messagingpatch_2.6.1_armv6.ipk with "Package dependencies not satisfied" no other error message... any ideas? Sep 27 10:32:31 PatrickC_Away: Oh sorry the znc is still up but my dns has gone walkies Sep 27 10:33:08 PatrickC_Away, oh maybe its ok ;) Sep 27 10:54:45 stalane what messaging plugins? Sep 27 10:55:01 im trying to install yahoo Sep 27 10:55:08 oh Sep 27 10:55:14 doesnt it say Sep 27 10:55:17 SUPPORTED WEBOS Sep 27 10:55:17 ================= Sep 27 10:55:17 1.2.X and 1.3.x.x. Sep 27 10:55:18 ? Sep 27 10:55:34 there is a new page Sep 27 10:55:40 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-homebrew-apps/233983-messaging-plugins-add-more-im-options-your-pre.html Sep 27 10:55:47 SUPPORTED WEBOS Sep 27 10:55:47 ================= Sep 27 10:55:47 1.2.X, 1.3.x and 1.4.x Sep 27 10:56:34 i only go to this step: Sep 27 10:56:35 org.webosinternals.messagingpatch_2.5.2_*.ipk - Main Patch Sep 27 10:56:50 the filenames have been updated in the zip file but not on this page Sep 27 10:57:04 they are now at 2.6.1 Sep 27 10:59:39 im using a pixi plus if that matters Sep 27 11:40:41 i like my new palm pixi so much im going to donate my laptop to a kid going to start college in 2 weeks Sep 27 11:41:37 its a dual core 4G and has my own puppy distro on it Sep 27 11:42:09 so its fast as...... well..... &$^% Sep 27 11:43:50 very friendly of you stalane Sep 27 11:44:17 i havent used it for a couple of weeks Sep 27 11:44:38 and i cant see me using now im using this phone Sep 27 11:45:07 i used to just lug it around to do mobile stuff Sep 27 11:45:32 but now i can do that with this little phone :D Sep 27 11:47:00 oh.. anyone interested in critisizing my linux distro is more than welcome: download somewhere here: http://goo.gl/rjBcH Sep 27 12:14:15 stalane: Puppy FTW ;) Sep 27 12:15:03 :D Sep 27 12:15:04 dod you Woof it? Sep 27 12:15:10 yeah Sep 27 12:15:38 but i made alot of changes to scripts etc Sep 27 12:15:48 and added in a bunch of crypto stufff Sep 27 12:16:16 Nice... Sep 27 12:16:40 i did want to get Dpup going again Sep 27 12:16:59 but so little time ;) Sep 27 12:17:14 yeah. i got a little fed up with the splits myself Sep 27 12:17:27 with iggy going in the army and all Sep 27 12:17:54 so this is my last working one Sep 27 12:18:44 its the best i can make it frankly.. the rest is support which i dont do for obvious reasons Sep 27 12:20:12 after xmas this year im going to be doing a seminar series for the police Sep 27 12:20:28 a 1 week course on ins and outs Sep 27 12:21:28 so i made this as the basis for a case study for them Sep 27 12:22:49 Nice Sep 27 12:22:56 Ya it did all get quite confusing Sep 27 12:23:09 i have been puppying since 1.somehting Sep 27 12:23:24 cool Sep 27 12:23:31 im from the 2 series Sep 27 12:23:34 I just want a nice simple distro with some "basic" apps Sep 27 12:24:11 its just nuts how fast it is Sep 27 12:24:44 yup, i have been using eeepup on my 901 very fast Sep 27 12:24:55 im on a quad FX 5000 with dual 19 inch monitors and there is nothing this machine cannot do Sep 27 12:25:00 shame its not been updated much Sep 27 12:25:17 yeah the next big challenge will be the i/o Sep 27 12:25:26 and barry has quit Sep 27 12:25:37 ya my main terminal box is a pIII 500, with 384Mg ram Sep 27 12:25:39 and the rest of them wont do the new i/o Sep 27 12:25:54 i did start to think that woof would be very usefull for WebOS builds Sep 27 12:26:10 Barry quit? Sep 27 12:26:12 yeah i actually recommended it on here the other day Sep 27 12:26:29 but then felt stupid because its not cross-platform lol Sep 27 12:27:08 Oh would it not build WebOS then? Sep 27 12:27:16 when i got my phone a few days ago and found this channel i was thinking all debian :D Sep 27 12:27:43 its a Pixi you have? Sep 27 12:27:55 yeah pixi plus. i bought 2 Sep 27 12:28:01 i started of with one but now have a Veer... so much faster Sep 27 12:28:24 Well when it feels like it Sep 27 12:28:29 im in bali indonesia so i had to hack some carrier stuff to get verizon to work here Sep 27 12:29:01 so i have to 2 cheapest cdma phones on the cheapest carrier in the whole country :D Sep 27 12:29:17 Nice Sep 27 12:29:37 yep. im pumped about it Sep 27 12:29:49 i want to contribute something Sep 27 12:30:00 probably in the crypto area Sep 27 12:30:33 i think one of the UberKernals has Trucript modules built in now Sep 27 12:30:36 RichT23: got any TMC errors on the veer yet? Sep 27 12:30:44 yeah i found that :D Sep 27 12:30:52 rwhitby: i dont think so Sep 27 12:30:53 RichT23: I put truecrypt modules in all the uberkernels now Sep 27 12:31:05 i was thinking more in messaging Sep 27 12:31:13 RichT23: https://twitter.com/webosinternals/status/118658029611786240 Sep 27 12:31:23 stalane: arr something like otr? Sep 27 12:31:29 yeah Sep 27 12:31:34 from purple Sep 27 12:31:42 as a start Sep 27 12:32:01 or straight in to gpgp for messaging Sep 27 12:32:21 like blackberry Sep 27 12:32:25 AES 256 Sep 27 12:32:29 blowfish Sep 27 12:32:50 nice stalane Sep 27 12:33:00 shame you are just in 1.x Sep 27 12:33:10 rwhitby: Most cool Sep 27 12:33:22 well im in the market for a hp tablet thing Sep 27 12:33:28 but i missed out on the deal Sep 27 12:33:51 but im ready now! thats how i bought the phones Sep 27 12:34:03 needed a usa drop box address blah blah Sep 27 12:34:54 this webos is very funky Sep 27 12:35:25 hp are mad to drop it. i think carly would be willing to throw you guys some cash and revive it Sep 27 12:36:24 you know. without the liability. Sep 27 12:47:37 It would be nice Sep 27 12:47:57 we still dont know what will happen to it... did you see the open letter / poll Sep 27 12:48:09 i have no idea where it is ;) Sep 27 12:48:21 it was on one of the tec blogs Sep 27 12:48:29 zdnet Sep 27 12:49:11 rwhitby: Oh yes, i just enable the alpha feeds the other day, i should test your kernal =) Sep 27 12:49:26 im not on call this week so =) Sep 27 12:49:53 i also need to rebuild my Pre3, i seem to have killed the diler! Sep 27 12:50:25 every time i get / make a call the diler locks the screen up Sep 27 12:50:55 do i need alpha apps and optware too? Sep 27 12:51:29 you may want the corresponding govnah 1.0.9 from alpha-apps Sep 27 12:52:12 oki Sep 27 12:52:40 * RichT23 is updateing feeds Sep 27 13:03:35 Oh ok Loaded =) Sep 27 13:03:51 I havent played with Govnah before though ;) Sep 27 13:04:13 its not melted yet though =) Sep 27 13:08:30 and whats all these issues about google maps in 2.2 (pre3)? Sep 27 14:01:14 RichT23, they broke appinfo.json so the icon is busted Sep 27 14:06:01 directhex: isnt that just with Bing maps Sep 27 14:06:17 which seem to be the replacment for google maps (shiver) Sep 27 14:09:08 oh, sorry, yes. forgot that it's bing only on pre3 Sep 27 14:12:36 I was wondering why =( Sep 27 14:13:14 i have seen it might be possible to add the 2.1.2 maps package to 2.2 Sep 27 14:13:32 but there seems to be some issue with that Sep 27 14:56:53 RichT23, they didn't rename the package at all, so you can't do side-by-side Sep 27 14:58:16 i.e. it's just com.palm.app.maps Sep 27 15:19:20 directhex: thats ok as long as i can remove bing maps and replace with gmaps Sep 27 15:19:28 * RichT23 does not like bing Sep 27 15:19:56 i don't know how much it'll break things to try replacing it Sep 27 15:20:04 also its not much good with latitude ;) Sep 27 15:20:55 well the phone is nacked any how, if i get time after patching $work stuff tonight i might try Sep 27 15:21:37 i wonder if it can be meta-doctor'ed Sep 27 15:24:44 meta doctor a pre3? Sep 27 15:25:28 ya Sep 27 15:25:39 i already did that =) Sep 27 15:25:55 had issues with network on my Sim Sep 27 15:26:00 well accessing it Sep 27 15:26:08 had to bypass activation Sep 27 15:26:13 to get wifi working Sep 27 15:26:37 then it seemed to have updated carier settings Sep 27 15:26:52 can't get paid app access working on boss' pre3 :( Sep 27 15:27:00 so i could then reset and get a new palm profile! Sep 27 15:27:00 backup server 401 issue Sep 27 15:28:27 grrr... canvas kills my TouchPad :) Sep 27 15:29:59 and video killed the radio star Sep 27 15:32:56 anyone found touchpad parts suppliers? Sep 27 15:33:15 speaker grille area is busted, need a new back Sep 27 16:13:09 NuttyBunny: pong Sep 27 16:31:04 nebula: people have been RMAing those and getting them fixed/replaced by HP Sep 27 16:34:39 jtrucks: ok Sep 27 16:34:59 nebula: someone in #touchpad did that and got theirs back. Sep 27 16:35:05 don't recall the rest of the details. Sep 27 16:58:11 I'm having some trouble getting rid of my ext3fs partition. I'd love some opinions. Verizon pre2, webOS 2.1.0 Sep 27 16:58:50 Before the official Verizon 2.1.0 update, I meta-doctored to 2.1.0, with a 4GB ext3fs partition. Sep 27 16:59:39 When the official doctor came out, I ran the old 2.0.1 official doctor, then the new official doctor. Sep 27 17:00:05 I didn't get rid of the ext3fs partition first. It's still there. Sep 27 17:00:27 I'd like to reclaim the space. I followed the instructions on the wiki, both sets. Sep 27 17:00:54 The first says lvremove /dev/mapper/store-ext3fs, and meta-doctor to recover the space. Sep 27 17:01:48 The new meta-doctor I created stops at 12% and then says something like "we can't reset your device", and I get the www.palm.com/ROM screen on my phone. Sep 27 17:02:14 The official doctor still works. Sep 27 17:02:37 The other set of instructions is supposed to walk me through manually fixing the partitions and lvm and such. Sep 27 17:03:14 I can lvresize, and now lvdisplay shows the correct size, but df -h still shows a small partition for /dev/mapper/store-media. Sep 27 17:03:43 I can't get resizefat to complete correctly. Sep 27 17:04:01 Any thoughts? Sep 27 17:36:53 is it possible to copy files into /media/cryptofs btw? Sep 27 17:38:17 or is it deleting that's not working :) Sep 27 17:41:10