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Oct 07 03:00:45 <wrea> Very important indeed
Oct 07 03:00:55 <cmv> but it has beats by dre (tm)
Oct 07 03:01:01 <cmv> for optimum listening out of the 5w speakers
Oct 07 03:01:37 <|Jason8|> yup
Oct 07 03:01:54 <|Jason8|> so the beats by dre (tm) sound even better
Oct 07 03:03:06 <SineOt> didn't they also electronically isolate the sound hardware from the rest of the board to prevent interference? P:
Oct 07 03:04:04 <cmv> that sounds expensive
Oct 07 03:04:10 <cmv> remember, hp has to save money!
Oct 07 03:04:27 <cmv> *apotheker gets a $25m severance payout*
Oct 07 03:08:26 <|Jason8|> SineOt: Yep, just like on the new HTC phones that were released pre-buyout... that are getting Beats enabled now!
Oct 07 03:08:30 <|Jason8|> er, wait, what?
Oct 07 03:09:01 <SineOt> which models are those? only one I'd really known of was the Sensation XE
Oct 07 03:09:42 <Exiles> i like a clean audio signal
Oct 07 03:09:56 <|Jason8|> EVO 3D, Sensation, etc
Oct 07 03:10:01 <Exiles> once we get android i hope we get voodoo sound
Oct 07 03:10:03 <|Jason8|> anything with the 8x60
Oct 07 03:36:12 <SineOt> forgot what I was doing oops
Oct 07 03:36:38 <SineOt> at least with the Touchpad it looks like the speakers are run off their own separate board
Oct 07 03:36:52 <SineOt> with the headphones attaching to the main mother board so A+ there HP
Oct 07 04:06:13 <actionfigure> dwc howdy
Oct 07 06:51:38 <stalane> Android running on WebOS as an IPK http://goo.gl/dc3rJ
Oct 07 06:54:48 <Log1x> have fun with your borked kernel
Oct 07 06:54:50 <Log1x> ;]
Oct 07 07:15:02 <destinal> rwhitby: seen an issue in OSX Lion where the doctor won't proceed because its installation receipt is missing?
Oct 07 07:15:10 <destinal> err the Novacom package installation receipt
Oct 07 07:16:03 <destinal> I got around it by creating the directory it expected and putting its own package_version file there, but looks like they're relying on something that got phased out
Oct 07 08:12:21 <rwhitby> destinal: haven't been brave enough to update to Lion yet
Oct 07 08:12:56 <destinal> rwhitby: ah, just got new macbook pro from work
Oct 07 08:34:01 <ka6sox> destinal, there is a fix for that on the wiki I thought.
Oct 07 08:54:44 <Oxdeadbabe> i can has edit privs on wiki, plz?
Oct 07 08:55:24 <Oxdeadbabe> "The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: human, editor.
Oct 07 09:06:29 <directhex> can you prove you're human?
Oct 07 09:06:50 <Oxdeadbabe> and how do i do that?
Oct 07 09:07:29 <directhex> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test
Oct 07 09:08:35 <Oxdeadbabe> What can you tell me about Turing_test? ;)
Oct 07 09:42:30 <Douilspee> is there a lot of work to do to have multitouch on ubuntu ?
Oct 07 09:43:43 <Douilspee> i mean is it just some config stuff, or need to compile drivers etc ??
Oct 07 10:12:09 <directhex> Douilspee, writing an appropriate driver would help
Oct 07 10:18:51 <Douilspee> humm, i can do config test, but i don't know much about drivers
Oct 07 10:43:10 <technikfreak> hu guzs did anzone tested the new android
Oct 07 10:54:13 <Soruk> From what I've seen on the webosinternals twitter, it does bad things to your kernel.
Oct 07 10:55:51 <Soruk> (other me connected. irc over vnc on an htc wildfire is very fiddly!)
Oct 07 11:09:56 <bedrock> hi, can anyone help with a service/upstart problem i seem to be having?
Oct 07 12:54:48 <Douilspee> https://picasaweb.google.com/107683201615075636523/071011#5660715403456788786
Oct 07 12:56:07 <owa> You are using a browser that is not fully supported. Some features may not work too well, but you are welcome to have a look around.
Oct 07 14:19:44 <Douilspee> owa ?
Oct 07 14:19:51 <owa> Douilspee
Oct 07 14:21:54 <Douilspee> what's your browser stuffs?
Oct 07 14:27:20 <dwc-> probably the pre :p
Oct 07 15:21:04 <Soruk_M> Is it possible to type a ® on the Pre/Pixi/Veer?
Oct 07 15:30:20 <mehere> I'm looking for a way to connect a pre3 to strongswan (IPsec)... anyone with according experience here? or someone with a strongswan port to webos?
Oct 07 15:30:48 <PatrickC> ok. for some unknown reason.. 99% of my apps have disappeared. even ones I've bought
Oct 07 15:30:54 <PatrickC> impostah won't restore backups
Oct 07 15:31:27 <mehere> the pre3 Cisco client won't connect because of "aggressive mode".
Oct 07 15:31:30 <PatrickC> I'm afraid to doctor. though I know I need to
Oct 07 15:31:43 <summatusmentis> why are you afraid to docotr?
Oct 07 15:31:56 <PatrickC> cause. apps that were there before aren't there
Oct 07 15:32:07 <PatrickC> and idk what the backup will restore
Oct 07 15:32:32 <PatrickC> right now, things like "Angry Birds Rio" (full) shows free.. as it should because I bought it
Oct 07 15:34:55 <PatrickC> tried to update the preware saved package list so I could doctor (as I installed the chomper ipk, and need to doctor anyway) and it said I only had 8 things installed
Oct 07 15:35:31 <halfhalo> ruhroh
Oct 07 15:36:52 <PatrickC> yeah.. idk what to do...
Oct 07 15:39:35 <halfhalo> burn it.  always works for me.
Oct 07 15:41:01 <PatrickC> yeah.. burn my touchpad.. riiiight
Oct 07 15:42:09 <mehere> have you checked syslog messages or alike for any hints on what may have gone wrong?
Oct 07 15:42:24 <PatrickC> not yet
Oct 07 15:44:01 <wolfrunner> ttest
Oct 07 15:44:25 <halfhalo> hhi
Oct 07 15:44:34 <wolfrunner> hi
Oct 07 15:45:06 <wolfrunner> where is the best place to get the overclock for hp touchpad 1.7 ghz?
Oct 07 15:45:08 <mehere> Patrick: maybe running the ipkg tools on the cmdline will reveal something...
Oct 07 15:45:27 <PatrickC> wolfrunner: http://testing.preware.org
Oct 07 15:45:44 <wolfrunner> cool thanks you guys rock
Oct 07 15:45:52 <wolfrunner> is this very stable?
Oct 07 15:46:00 <wolfrunner> 1.7
Oct 07 15:46:25 <mehere> that's why it`s called "testing" :-)
Oct 07 15:46:50 <PatrickC> wolfrunner: not sure if its in the beta or alpha feeds.. but heed the warnings :)
Oct 07 15:47:14 <wolfrunner> :) i hear you but overall good reports. The 1.5 is amazing!
Oct 07 15:48:16 <wolfrunner> thanks for the help.
Oct 07 15:53:32 <PatrickC> np
Oct 07 16:07:38 <dwc-> Soruk_M: hit the sym key... it's on the list
Oct 07 16:08:31 <dwc-> PatrickC: did you update the list in preware?
Oct 07 16:08:40 <PatrickC> tried to
Oct 07 16:08:43 <PatrickC>  tried to update the preware saved package list so I could doctor (as I installed the chomper ipk, and need to doctor anyway) and it said I only had 8 things installed
Oct 07 16:08:50 <Soruk_M> Okie, thanks. I don't have any of those devices, just looking at keys to bring up the menu in TigerVNCViewer.
Oct 07 16:10:11 <dwc-> did those 8 at least include the app catalog and preware?
Oct 07 16:10:24 <PatrickC> idk.. lemme check
Oct 07 16:12:11 <PatrickC> screenshot incoming...
Oct 07 16:12:16 <PatrickC> something went wrong
Oct 07 16:12:36 <PatrickC> or not? weird.. crap
Oct 07 16:14:12 <PatrickC> screenshot won't work. its a read-only filesystem. idk why
Oct 07 16:14:32 <PatrickC> dwc-: http://ompldr.org/vYXA5aw
Oct 07 16:22:19 <PatrickC> dwc-: it shows the app catalog but not preware
Oct 07 16:31:36 <PatrickC> is it bad if the doctor complains that it can't remove a file because of a read-only filesystem?
Oct 07 16:35:18 <PatrickC> determine. I just let it sit at 8% for about 5-6 minutes and it fixed itself
Oct 07 16:58:18 <dwc-> ... I don't want to know why your fs there is read-only
Oct 07 16:58:27 <dwc-> there is Somethign Wrong there
Oct 07 16:58:35 <dwc-> perhaps your fs has errors and got remounted read-only?
Oct 07 17:02:53 <ka6sox> PatrickC, misdirecting people again eh?
Oct 07 17:03:14 <PatrickC> how?
Oct 07 17:12:50 <wisdev> hallo there, has HP shut down the Beta Servers for WebOs 3.0.3??
Oct 07 17:13:00 <wisdev> on Touchpad
Oct 07 17:14:13 <ka6sox> wisdev, we don't discuss EA things in this channel.
Oct 07 17:15:47 <wisdev> sorry didn´t know about that
Oct 07 17:16:23 <PatrickC> wisdev: as a note. if its EA. it is only talked about in the EA forums
Oct 07 17:16:52 <wisdev> do you know the Chanel Name for EA Questions
Oct 07 17:16:59 <wisdev> Channel
Oct 07 17:17:17 <stbuehler> one would think that such things are mentioned in a nda
Oct 07 17:17:26 <PatrickC> I don't know of one. and if I did, we couldn't say anyway
Oct 07 17:17:39 <PatrickC> you signed an NDA, so you should read it
Oct 07 17:19:00 <NuttyBunny> wisdev: ask the person who gave you access to said servers
Oct 07 17:22:20 <ka6sox> XDA strikes again! :P
Oct 07 17:23:25 <mattcabrices> hey unixpsycho
Oct 07 17:36:27 <technikfreak2> hello guys i have prorammed a program in c could i ported to webos?
Oct 07 17:37:56 <PatrickC> yes
Oct 07 17:38:01 <PatrickC> #webos for that
Oct 07 17:38:09 <technikfreak2> othx
Oct 07 18:30:19 <phil_> Anyone can help me with an issue related to Xecutah?
Oct 07 18:31:16 <PatrickC> maybe? what's up?
Oct 07 18:33:05 <phil_> I have Xterm,Xserver ans Xecutah installed but I only see Xterm in Xecutah, thus I canot start Xserver and thus I cannot use Xterm.
Oct 07 18:35:33 <PatrickC> click the "Xterm" button
Oct 07 18:35:35 <PatrickC> you'll see :)
Oct 07 18:35:41 <PatrickC> 1 click launch now
Oct 07 18:36:53 <vividboarder> Question... can I install the ubuntu chroot via webos quickinstall instead of preware?
Oct 07 18:40:19 <PatrickC> I would guess so?
Oct 07 18:40:20 <PatrickC> not sure
Oct 07 18:40:24 <phil_> Ok, is there anything I can run inside xterm?
Oct 07 18:40:47 <PatrickC> like?
Oct 07 18:41:04 <phil_> bash maybe
Oct 07 18:41:17 <PatrickC> wow.. how awesome. I had the "add launcher tabs" patch installed, and on a profile restore.. they are *still* there
Oct 07 18:41:20 <PatrickC> after a doctor
Oct 07 18:41:32 <PatrickC> phil_: think of xterm.. as.. linux command link
Oct 07 18:41:37 <PatrickC> its a full command line
Oct 07 18:43:39 <phil_> well, I thought it was a window system used with unix.
Oct 07 18:44:21 <PatrickC> xterm is an x-windows system I believe. but its the full linux command line just like novaterm is
Oct 07 18:44:28 <phil_> but anyways, I dont see any command prompt only a grey background with a cursor.
Oct 07 18:44:45 <PatrickC> then it didn't fully launch
Oct 07 18:44:46 <PatrickC> hmm..
Oct 07 18:44:50 <PatrickC> try a reboot
Oct 07 18:45:02 <phil_> ok, brb.
Oct 07 18:56:34 <Phil--> Phil1337
Oct 07 18:56:37 <mpingu> http://www.wtae.com/r/29413287/detail.html
Oct 07 18:56:38 <mpingu> wtf
Oct 07 18:56:58 <Phil--> oops
Oct 07 18:58:31 <Phil1337> PatrickC: It works. You should add a note in the wiki tutorial. It requires a restart.
Oct 07 19:07:04 <PatrickC> Phil1337: it doesn't always.
Oct 07 19:10:02 <Phil1337> ok.
Oct 07 19:11:37 <Phil1337> You still need to update the wiki for the new version. And if webos-internals need a good developper I would probably be up to it.
Oct 07 19:11:51 <jojoe> hey guys
Oct 07 19:12:34 <jojoe> does anyone get to overclock the hp touchpad with the new testing beta kernels
Oct 07 19:13:45 <siestacatpixi> hey
Oct 07 19:13:51 <siestacatpixi> using the public radio app
Oct 07 19:13:53 <jojoe> hii
Oct 07 19:14:00 <jojoe> yes
Oct 07 19:14:02 <siestacatpixi> and wifi shuts off after like 5 minutes
Oct 07 19:14:04 <Phil1337> if you have acess to root you can try to flash the bios but its dangerous.
Oct 07 19:14:08 <siestacatpixi> and help?
Oct 07 19:14:18 <siestacatpixi> any*
Oct 07 19:14:36 <jojoe> what hardware siesta?
Oct 07 19:15:03 <jojoe> Smartphone? Touchpad?
Oct 07 19:15:06 <siestacatpixi> pixi
Oct 07 19:15:17 <siestacatpixi> pixi plus
Oct 07 19:15:29 <jojoe> hhmm Keine Ahnung, hast du irgendwas softwaretechnisch verändert?
Oct 07 19:15:44 <jojoe> ah sry, did you changed anything in the software?
Oct 07 19:16:13 <siestacatpixi> no?
Oct 07 19:16:23 <jojoe> but u r using preware?
Oct 07 19:16:26 <siestacatpixi> I just downloaded it and ran it
Oct 07 19:16:29 <jojoe> hmm
Oct 07 19:16:53 <jojoe> and only when u r running the app u got a wifi break?
Oct 07 19:17:38 <siestacatpixi> it just cuts out, the stream
Oct 07 19:17:43 <jojoe> then it seems to be the radio app is having a failure
Oct 07 19:17:49 <jojoe> ahh okay but wifi is still on
Oct 07 19:18:08 <jojoe> possible that the stream have a bad connection
Oct 07 19:18:18 <jojoe> every kind of stream?
Oct 07 19:19:35 <jojoe> it seems to be that i cant help u sorry
Oct 07 19:19:42 <jojoe> use another radio app
Oct 07 19:21:19 <siestacatpixi> ok
Oct 07 19:21:21 <siestacatpixi> lol
Oct 07 19:23:11 <youlysses> Hey guys, I'm most likely buying a touchpad of a friend of a friend and was wondering the whole "ubuntu" situation?
Oct 07 19:23:36 <youlysses> Like is it easy to get on, and does run alright?
Oct 07 19:24:36 <scoutcamper> youlysses, it is decently easy to get going, and runs good for a chroot, but, unless you have command line knowledge of linux, i would not reccomend it
Oct 07 19:25:02 <youlysses> I have very little ... what do you need to do?
Oct 07 19:25:33 <youlysses> And all i've seen is lxde ... can you but unity or gnome shell on it?
Oct 07 19:25:49 <scoutcamper> anything. the chroot drops you into a bare bones commandline enviroment that you have to populate with apps a a windows manager among other things
Oct 07 19:26:16 <scoutcamper> well, you can only use WM's that have armel versions availiable
Oct 07 19:26:48 <youlysses> So basically you build up from near nothing. I thought unity did have arm support or is it getting it? :/
Oct 07 19:27:28 <scoutcamper> yes, you are building up from near nothing, as far as unity, tbh ive never tried it
Oct 07 19:28:25 <youlysses> i'll do some research on that. But from what you tried, it runs alright?
Oct 07 19:28:47 <scoutcamper> it runs good in everything ive done
Oct 07 19:30:02 <youlysses> I mainly want to use it for basic "finger" doodling, and maybe light note taking; I just don't want to lug my laptop all around my campus. :L
Oct 07 19:30:26 <jcerwinske> @Ulysses there is a thread on precentral about an easy Ubuntu configuration script you might be interested in
Oct 07 19:30:53 <youlysses> You are right sir, I am!
Oct 07 19:32:05 <jcerwinske> http://forums.precentral.net/webos-development/301325-alpha-test-version-easy-ubuntu-chroot-image.html
Oct 07 19:32:10 <jcerwinske> caveat emptor
Oct 07 19:33:40 <youlysses> Looks pretty nice, but still wanting some unity and or gnome shell love :L
Oct 07 19:33:46 <youlysses> Eh one can dream.
Oct 07 19:35:36 <jcerwinske> unity 2d is supposed to work
Oct 07 19:36:00 * scoutcamper uses e17
Oct 07 19:36:14 <jcerwinske> I thought that script had that going, but I guess I'm not sure. Use lxde here
Oct 07 19:36:27 <youlysses> Thats a start I guess, and I never have used enlightment
Oct 07 19:37:23 <jcerwinske> e is pretty great if you have the time to config to taste
Oct 07 19:37:31 <youlysses> Also is there a large lack of tablet applications? I was on my friend's and most apps seem to run in an emulated phone ...
Oct 07 19:38:01 <jcerwinske> I think there Are 1000 TP apps in the store now
Oct 07 19:38:28 <youlysses> More than I thought there would be . 0_0 Is there a large homebrew community?
Oct 07 19:38:53 <jcerwinske> I don't have a problem with lack of apps, but I mostly just use the browser, spaz for Twitter, and wirc for right now!
Oct 07 19:39:21 <youlysses> These all offical or homebrew?
Oct 07 19:40:38 <jcerwinske> I think they are all in official store. wirc is in preware. look up preware. Amazing homebrew catalog
Oct 07 19:41:35 <youlysses> so better than the default store?
Oct 07 19:42:12 <scoutcamper> youlysses, preware is not a store, rather, a alternate way to get free apps
Oct 07 19:42:29 <scoutcamper> s/free apps/free homebrew apps/
Oct 07 19:42:29 <infobot> scoutcamper meant: youlysses, preware is not a store, rather, a alternate way to get free homebrew apps
Oct 07 19:42:51 <youlysses> so kind of a repository ?
Oct 07 19:42:58 <jcerwinske> its like (is) a linux package repo
Oct 07 19:43:38 <jcerwinske> with  great front end
Oct 07 19:49:12 <youlysses> cool, pretty excited!
Oct 07 19:53:24 <jcerwinske> @youlysses ts a great device, I'd never trade it for an ipad
Oct 07 19:54:24 <youlysses> Well jcerwinske, i'm about as excited as I can be until some one releases a full open sourced tablet ... :P
Oct 07 20:29:50 <Minchkin> Is it possible for a non-webOS phone to connect to the TouchPad?
Oct 07 20:31:05 <jcerwinske> depends on the phone... some people have gotten it to work
Oct 07 20:31:40 <dwc-> connect to it ... for what... is the question
Oct 07 20:44:04 <kill_dano> My webOS Dr for my Sprint Franken verizon pre 2 fails @ 12% ... someone tell me what the error in the command line output means http://pastebin.com/e13ZVY6H
Oct 07 20:44:20 <kill_dano> Please ;)
Oct 07 20:48:25 <kill_dano> <ERROR> CPU-specific initialization failed
Oct 07 20:48:39 <kill_dano> Does this inducate a hardware problem?
Oct 07 20:55:40 <destinal> kill_dano: never seen that one, might decompile the doctor jar to see what it's doing at that stage
Oct 07 20:56:09 <kill_dano> kk thanks
Oct 07 20:56:14 <kill_dano> found this http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre-2/299781-sprint-franken-verizon-pre-2-problem.html
Oct 07 20:56:17 <kill_dano> some issue
Oct 07 20:56:23 <kill_dano> looks like currupt usb perapos
Oct 07 20:56:55 <destinal> kill_dano: that would explain the connection reset
Oct 07 20:57:05 <destinal> kill_dano: what OS are you using?
Oct 07 20:57:16 <kill_dano> by usb I ment usb partition
Oct 07 20:57:18 <kill_dano> windows 7
Oct 07 20:57:31 <destinal> ah corrupt us partition?  hmm
Oct 07 20:59:15 <destinal> kill_dano: ah yeah, looks like fixing it with mkdosfs is the way to go
Oct 07 20:59:28 <kill_dano> thanks just did dat ;)
Oct 07 21:15:32 <Crix-> can anyone help me with obtaining mkimage for osx?
Oct 07 21:15:42 <Crix-> building uboot from source is not working
Oct 07 21:26:51 <rwhitby> Crix-: I do all my kernel building in a Linux VM for that reason
Oct 07 21:36:52 <bhuey> folks
Oct 08 00:01:06 <siestacat> must I do anything other than meta-doctor to bypass activation on a pixi plus?
Oct 08 00:06:35 <NuttyBunny> siestacat: you can doctor, memboot, edit files, reboot :-)  But meta doctor is the easiest way!
Oct 08 00:07:42 <siestacat> meta-doctor allows me to bypass activation NuttyBunny?
Oct 08 00:08:18 <NuttyBunny> yep, it has an option for that
Oct 08 00:09:25 <siestacat> great
Oct 08 00:09:44 <siestacat> My boss listens to NPR, and his computer is junk (his wife hates it playing out loud)
Oct 08 00:10:04 <siestacat> so I need a wifi only device for some hard core internet readio
Oct 08 00:10:19 <siestacat> NuttyBunny : How to fix scratched pixi screeen?
Oct 08 00:10:22 <siestacat> it's really ugly
Oct 08 00:10:52 <dwc-> buy a broken innards pixi and swap?
Oct 08 00:10:59 <Abyssul-TP_> Found some code that indicates an app blacklist for the app launcher screen on TP :-P
Oct 08 00:11:16 <Abyssul-TP_> siestacat: get a new pixi?
Oct 08 00:11:21 <siestacat> ew
Oct 08 00:11:24 <siestacat> why
Oct 08 00:11:32 <siestacat> This one is already activated and awesome
Oct 08 00:11:37 <siestacat> I've got one annoying scratch
Oct 08 00:11:40 <NuttyBunny> siestacat: go back in time and put a screen protector? ;-)
Oct 08 00:11:54 <siestacat> I don't use screen protectors on gorilla glass
Oct 08 00:12:05 <siestacat> besides, the pixi was $40 so I don't really care
Oct 08 00:12:15 <siestacat> Couldn't see putting a $10 screen protector on
Oct 08 00:12:17 <Abyssul-TP_> Deal with it?
Oct 08 00:12:22 <NuttyBunny> i've read that invishield fixes some scratches
Oct 08 00:12:31 <NuttyBunny> zaggs
Oct 08 00:12:43 <Abyssul-TP_> Pixi wasnt gorilla glass?
Oct 08 00:13:02 <NuttyBunny> nope
Oct 08 00:13:11 <NuttyBunny> plastic, cheap
Oct 08 00:13:28 <Abyssul-TP_> Thought so
Oct 08 00:13:44 * NuttyBunny takes his out. plastic, soft, cheap... ugly :-)
Oct 08 00:14:34 <Abyssul-TP_> Anyone interested in Pre- parts or Pre2 Verizon comm board?
Oct 08 00:17:54 <dwc-> you can make yourself a verizon pre-!
Oct 08 00:19:24 <Abyssul-TP_> Not worth it. Id get more worth from hitting it with a golf club or tricking a friend into breaking "my phone"
Oct 08 00:21:36 <dwc-> anyone on AT&T around?
Oct 08 00:24:54 <NuttyBunny> I need an AT&T comm board ;-)
Oct 08 00:25:36 <dwc-> cancel my question, got an answer from someone
Oct 08 00:27:12 <siestacat> where can I buy a new pixi screen?
Oct 08 00:27:20 <siestacat> build myself a pre-
Oct 08 00:36:51 <siestacat> ?
Oct 08 00:39:26 <Abyssul-TP_> Sold my pre2 att board
Oct 08 00:42:32 <oil> lol for how much?
Oct 08 00:43:00 <dwc-> rwhitby: http://pastebin.com/HejruMMY ... unfortunately, I don't have any devices with which to test...
Oct 08 00:52:12 <siestacat> anyone have cmda pre 2's they'd let go for $40?
Oct 08 00:52:48 <jedivulcan> I bought a few a few Veers today for the family and myself.
Oct 08 00:53:28 <jedivulcan> I'm kind of excited. I've been using iOS since it came out... This is just refreshing to have something else to use.
Oct 08 00:56:15 <siestacat> jedivulcan : where from and for how much?
Oct 08 00:57:27 <siestacat> i need a replacement cdma phone
Oct 08 00:57:34 <siestacat> no contract
Oct 08 00:57:36 <siestacat> for page plus
Oct 08 00:57:45 <jedivulcan> siestacat: I bought from Amazon at about 75 a piece. They're AT&T GSM phones though.
Oct 08 00:57:52 <siestacat> bah
Oct 08 00:57:59 <siestacat> where can I get a cheap pre2?
Oct 08 00:58:10 <Abyssul-TP_> Just 12 bucks.
Oct 08 00:58:21 <jedivulcan> No idea. I don't think I've ever owned a CDMA phone.
Oct 08 00:58:48 <siestacat> Abyssul-TP_?
Oct 08 00:58:59 <Abyssul-TP_> Talking to oil
Oct 08 00:59:04 <jedivulcan> I bought a Veer as a change up for my iPhone 4. My mother and sister sorely needed some sort of phone. They text a lot.
Oct 08 00:59:45 <Abyssul-TP_> (obligatory hate on VK)
Oct 08 00:59:51 <siestacat> well, I'm on pageplus
Oct 08 02:09:00 <rwhitby> dwc-: why do we want to use an AT&T override for all Impostah activations in the US ?
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