**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 13 02:59:57 2011 Oct 13 03:00:43 Deleting the maps app does not remove the Enyo framework Oct 13 03:01:02 So you could essentially update enyo with the app and then remove it to install Google Maps Oct 13 03:01:17 oh if you remove it it installs google maps again? Oct 13 03:01:25 that's what kostka was asking. I don't know. Oct 13 03:01:47 No it doesnt Oct 13 03:01:50 dtzWill: no, already remove BingMaps.. but GoogleMaps not come back.. yet :D Oct 13 03:01:57 d'oh. Oct 13 03:02:02 Im talking about if you manually install the google maps with a ipk Oct 13 03:02:12 dtzWill: is precentral up? Oct 13 03:02:13 It does not come back so you are left with nothing Oct 13 03:02:15 * dtzWill nods Oct 13 03:02:16 err preware Oct 13 03:02:26 Abyssul: I'm trying to locate the GoogleMaps.ipk right now Oct 13 03:02:27 balrog: precentral is up here, as are the feeds Oct 13 03:02:41 http://ipkg.preware.org/ you can verify yourself locally, etc Oct 13 03:02:58 dtzWill: I put that in the browser and "unable to resolve host" Oct 13 03:03:00 doesn't sound preware related, sounds like some network issue on your device. Oct 13 03:03:08 regardless of it being up, should definitely /resolve/ Oct 13 03:03:23 using dig to query it returns no A record Oct 13 03:03:29 even against 8.8.8.8 DNS server Oct 13 03:03:46 that's not true here, using same server >_> Oct 13 03:04:30 it works from elsewhere though Oct 13 03:04:31 :/ Oct 13 03:04:38 http://ompldr.org/vYXM3Mw etc Oct 13 03:04:45 ah, hmm. Oct 13 03:04:54 it's not on the touchpad that's for sure Oct 13 03:05:12 I am behind AT&T's 3G NAT, so they may be screwing with dns responses :[ Oct 13 03:05:23 sounds like a local networking issue, why you explicitly hitting the dns server for a query fails is bizarre though Oct 13 03:05:40 surely they wouldn't intercept traffic like that? :/ Oct 13 03:05:46 who knows. Oct 13 03:05:50 indeed :). Oct 13 03:06:00 it IS att after all Oct 13 03:06:31 btw, I'm hearing that the sprint iphone will have the GSM portion carrier locked. is this common for Sprint? Oct 13 03:06:48 (idk, /me wanders off) Oct 13 03:07:08 Rofl Oct 13 03:07:14 Still have Google Maps in my Just Type Oct 13 03:08:59 hi Oct 13 03:09:13 Abyssul, still can't find the GoogleMaps.ipk in doctor file.. could u please packed up the .ipk from existing installation? Oct 13 03:10:13 Maybe Oct 13 03:10:28 I just searched. The app is preinstalled with no ipk Oct 13 03:10:34 like all the other stock apps Oct 13 03:11:16 ah ic Oct 13 03:13:45 It works Oct 13 03:14:03 Package the com.palm.maps folder from usr/palm/applications Oct 13 03:14:27 Use Jason's Ipk Packager and install with WOSQI Oct 13 03:16:21 I refuse to doctor just to get Bing Maps working... Oct 13 03:17:16 hi from webos meetup in Sunnyvale. Oct 13 03:17:26 Hehe Oct 13 03:18:02 wow, thanks Abyssul .. will try that right now Oct 13 03:20:12 I dont know if its only working because I cant get Bing to work though Oct 13 03:23:20 I dont have a maps.list in my ipkg folder Oct 13 04:17:48 Abyssul, haha.. fool me. how can I package the already removed GoogleMaps from my own device Oct 13 04:17:52 need another device Oct 13 04:19:10 No, you use 7zip to extract from the .jar Oct 13 04:19:33 *webosdoctor.jar Oct 13 04:21:33 hi all Oct 13 04:22:50 im on ubuntu lucid amd 64bit, using java 1.6, trying to install preware on my touchpad using the quickinstaller as such java -jar WebOSQuickInstall-4.2.3.jar Oct 13 04:23:29 developer mode is enabled. this operation hangs for 10-15 minutes before i canceled it with a control-c. Oct 13 04:23:36 any ideas as to why it might hang? Oct 13 04:25:33 novacomd is running, i just verified that Oct 13 04:27:08 I use the SDK and have no problems. we don't specific ally support quickinstall here but some have used it. Oct 13 04:27:21 fair enough Oct 13 04:29:02 omg console. Oct 13 04:29:35 this is pretty awesome, folks. pardon the gushing, i just got the device(s) in the mail today and i cant get my hands off of it. Oct 13 04:30:19 zamaboo, which device(s)? Oct 13 04:30:30 ka6sox-away, touchpads Oct 13 04:30:36 kk Oct 13 04:30:50 what do you plan on doing with them? Oct 13 04:31:26 other than using them, of course ;-) Oct 13 04:31:40 * LarrySteeze pokes ka6sox Oct 13 04:32:20 using the living crap out of them? ive always wanted a reader. this thing, apparently, can run ubuntu. this means i can work on it. Oct 13 04:32:26 meetings and such. Oct 13 04:32:37 one is for me, the other is for the missus. Oct 13 04:33:05 ah preware, why would you install correctly from the command line... Oct 13 04:33:07 are you new to webos? Oct 13 04:33:11 that i am. Oct 13 04:33:16 however im not new to linux Oct 13 04:33:16 you'll like xecutah Oct 13 04:33:40 i already like the brooklyn accent name Oct 13 04:33:48 eh Oct 13 04:33:56 I like to think of it as a boston accent :P Oct 13 04:34:27 or that, yes. pahk the cah and what not. Oct 13 04:34:29 impostah, govnah, all of 'em Oct 13 04:34:47 ok.. anyone with a pre3 just install the new maps app? Oct 13 04:35:02 * LarrySteeze slaps patrickc around a bit with a large trout Oct 13 04:35:13 hey LarrySteeze Oct 13 04:35:18 how goes it? Oct 13 04:36:03 yo Oct 13 04:38:51 awk: /tmp/org.webosinternals.Packages: No such file or directory Oct 13 04:47:43 patrickc, I did on my Pre2, delete it, and now decided to go back to GoogleMaps :D Oct 13 04:48:38 oh god. an addon that works with calibre. Oct 13 04:56:01 ok im too lazy for this ubuntuchroot thing Oct 13 04:56:45 zambaboo, if you are starting off and don't have anything important Oct 13 04:56:58 just use meta doctor to partition it. Oct 13 04:57:25 see thats the 'im lazy' part Oct 13 04:58:43 :( Oct 13 04:58:57 i know man Oct 13 04:59:23 trust me, i'm way lazier than you are and i managed to do it. Oct 13 04:59:36 zambaboo, I do mine about 1X/week Oct 13 04:59:44 why so often? Oct 13 04:59:51 (usually because something I'm testing has blown up. Oct 13 05:00:12 (im lazy, plus the missus is watching something on netflix and that kills my bandwidth dead) Oct 13 05:00:58 okay, wait till tommorrow, download the doctor and do it!~ Oct 13 05:01:45 so.. can someone elaborate on the 'security constraints' bit and why i have to run xterm from within xecutah? Oct 13 05:02:19 do you want random carp running on your TP from unknown sources? Oct 13 05:02:40 (plus, xecutah starts the xserver then attaches to the app) Oct 13 05:02:50 ok, makes sense. Oct 13 05:03:08 zambaboo: there's an easy way to fix your bandwidth problem Oct 13 05:03:26 working on XApps that will add functionality that is missing currently from the thousands of apps in x-windows. Oct 13 05:03:53 LarrySteeze, what, smack the missus, problem solved? Oct 13 05:04:05 zambaboo: are you running a separate dhcp server or is it the router dhcp you are using? Oct 13 05:04:26 and what is she using to stream netflix? Oct 13 05:04:54 using a router and its' dhcp. had i been less lazy, id configure qos on it. but im lazy. Oct 13 05:05:06 she's using a roku box. Oct 13 05:05:09 qos is easy Oct 13 05:05:33 and the set-top boxes tend to use more bandwidth than necessary for netflix Oct 13 05:06:26 for example: pulling a 1080 stream for a movie that is only available in 720, while the box is also only capable of 720 output Oct 13 05:06:45 ugh seriously? Oct 13 05:06:54 yes Oct 13 05:06:56 yup Oct 13 05:07:19 and most of the time, streaming 1080 is pointless anyways because it doesn't get rendered as such anyway Oct 13 05:07:56 if your router doesn't have dd-wrt or openwrt on it already, get it flashed and qos it already Oct 13 05:08:06 yes, but they can *claim* to stream 1080p Oct 13 05:08:29 your wife won't lose any quality and you will have your internet back...both will be happy Oct 13 05:09:19 ka6sox-away: yes, but pointlessly...it's pulling doubled pixels down...just accurately doubled? Oct 13 05:10:22 mebbe most broadcasters gave up on the idea of 1080p and only are 720p on OTA stuff. Oct 13 05:10:27 (except CBS) Oct 13 05:11:02 directv only is piping movies and ppv in 1080p, everything else is 720p Oct 13 05:11:25 halfhalo, and bitstealing like CRAZY. Oct 13 05:14:50 im sure im not the first one, but im really wondering why hp threw this project away like that Oct 13 05:15:36 zambaboo, who can figure out what HP has been doing for the last 5 or so years.... Oct 13 05:15:39 impossible. Oct 13 05:15:53 zambaboo: even HP doesnt know why they did it Oct 13 05:16:30 I'm not even sure why HP bought webos in the first place. Oct 13 05:16:53 I would have been much happier with htc, as I voiced in the beginning Oct 13 05:17:01 yeah Oct 13 05:17:12 or even just Palm keeping webos to themselves Oct 13 05:17:20 i would even settle for LG at this point... Oct 13 05:20:28 hi Oct 13 05:20:44 greetings all Oct 13 05:20:57 anyone assist me? Oct 13 05:21:04 hey grover Oct 13 05:21:20 hello denise Oct 13 05:21:44 i have a hp touchpad and trying to use govnah to "overclock" to 1.5ghz Oct 13 05:22:02 why? Oct 13 05:22:07 is this a place to discuss that? Oct 13 05:22:26 yes Oct 13 05:22:42 grover_: first, what wiki page are you followig for overclocking? Oct 13 05:23:06 http://www.webosbuzz.com/hp-touchpad/694-how-overclock-hp-touchpad-1-5ghz-1-9ghz-%5Bguide%5D.html Oct 13 05:23:34 i actually had it working, but after a reboot, the 1.5ghz option is now gone in govnah Oct 13 05:23:52 now my 720 videos are running choppy without the overclock Oct 13 05:24:17 i have uberkernel and preware installed and seem to be working ok Oct 13 05:25:02 hmm... not sure Oct 13 05:25:06 sorry Oct 13 05:25:23 its odd, it was there, and now options is simply not there its gone Oct 13 05:25:36 i dont think i did any other updates Oct 13 05:26:00 grover_: I'm sorry for jumping in mid-conversation, but do me a favor and launch preware again Oct 13 05:26:06 i would read the webos inteernals wiki on how to overclock, they are a more reliable source then webosbuzz :) (as they are the maintainers) Oct 13 05:26:14 ok Oct 13 05:26:24 preware launched Oct 13 05:26:28 let me know when the feeds are updated Oct 13 05:26:38 updated Oct 13 05:26:40 ok Oct 13 05:26:46 does it show any updates available? Oct 13 05:27:05 no package updates Oct 13 05:27:07 ok Oct 13 05:27:16 are you using any of the testing feeds? Oct 13 05:27:28 (if you don't know what that means, your answer is no) Oct 13 05:27:31 no Oct 13 05:27:34 ok Oct 13 05:27:42 should i perhaps? Oct 13 05:27:45 you said it was the TP, right? Oct 13 05:27:52 yes Oct 13 05:28:05 in the upper right corner, you see that magnifying glass? click on it. Oct 13 05:28:13 search for uberkernel Oct 13 05:28:25 ok Oct 13 05:28:40 when it comes up, tap on it Oct 13 05:28:58 what options does it provide you? Oct 13 05:29:04 only to remove Oct 13 05:29:31 ok...without throwing the preware card away, open govhah again Oct 13 05:29:34 *govnah Oct 13 05:29:54 ok Oct 13 05:31:12 ok Oct 13 05:31:22 where it says profile, what is it running? Oct 13 05:31:42 palm default Oct 13 05:31:57 and if you tap on it Oct 13 05:32:04 what does it display? Oct 13 05:32:26 only shows a tab for advanced settings Oct 13 05:32:35 id doesn't even list palm default? Oct 13 05:32:59 that's very odd Oct 13 05:33:05 should be an easy fix though Oct 13 05:33:13 to me a favor and close govnah Oct 13 05:33:18 ok Oct 13 05:33:26 hop back to preware and uninstall uberkernel Oct 13 05:33:41 it'll ask you to reboot...accept the reboot Oct 13 05:34:09 then go into preware again and install uberkernel again...and again accept the restart Oct 13 05:34:37 ok 1 minute Oct 13 05:34:40 ok Oct 13 05:35:54 oh...for anyone who's interested, by the way, I was stuck at airport security (after I went through the line) for an extra 45 minutes today...I can give you a protip to not repeat what I went through Oct 13 05:37:42 im flying today in fact Oct 13 05:38:52 ok, well here's my tip then... Oct 13 05:39:12 I feel I have to explain myself in advance...I was flying from wisconsin Oct 13 05:39:56 my tip is: don't carry on 12 small packages of hard cheese as well as a roomba (in the same suitcase) Oct 13 05:40:00 anyone else having ipkg.preware.org dns problems? Oct 13 05:40:08 haha duly noted Oct 13 05:40:23 apparently it looks like C4 and some sort of timing device Oct 13 05:40:30 in the scanner Oct 13 05:40:43 you back up grover? Oct 13 05:41:32 no my dl is very slow Oct 13 05:41:39 o.o Oct 13 05:41:59 Are the Prepare feeds being updated or something? Both my TP and FrankenPixi prepare are giving me errors. Oct 13 05:42:27 Dan___: im having dns resolve issues for the feeds Oct 13 05:42:31 hello everyone. I hope this is the right place to ask a question. I'm usually one to not have problems with prepare but when I tried opening it there was an error during the loading part and now I can't update things. Oct 13 05:42:54 preware* Oct 13 05:43:22 I think the feed thing has something to do with the map update / enyo framework Oct 13 05:43:53 dns issues it seems i cant resolve ipkg.preware.org Oct 13 05:44:04 Just set up a brand new veer WITHOUT the map update, and Preware worked fine on it. BUT on my veer WITH map update, I get the error, and Package Updates / Available Packages are grey'd out FWIW. I'm in Australia, not that it should matter Edit: I had them side by side as I was comparing patches. Oct 13 05:44:10 http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/303314-preware-feeds-down.html Oct 13 05:44:22 oh okay. So its not just me thats having this problem. Thank you! Oct 13 05:45:13 definitely several people experiencing problems^^^ Oct 13 05:45:21 the quickinstall showed cache for me for a bit then i cleared my dns cache and it all went Oct 13 05:47:17 dns has been acting screwy in a number of venues today Oct 13 05:47:27 let me try it real quick Oct 13 05:47:29 I'm sitting on my balcony railings hoping that Preware will be back up or I'm jumping. Oct 13 05:47:56 interestingly enough, I'm not having an issue Oct 13 05:48:13 interesting because any time there's any small issue, I'm always one of the ones who has troubles Oct 13 05:48:34 Karma Oct 13 05:48:42 ok one more reboot larry Oct 13 05:48:59 another reboot yet? O.o wow, your internet is SLOW? Oct 13 05:52:16 ok back on profiles of govnah, all it has still is that advances settings :S Oct 13 05:52:57 do i need to do something in uberkernel first? Oct 13 05:54:25 no Oct 13 05:54:58 I'm supposed to get another callback from Palm. Maybe they'll call me this time Oct 13 05:55:02 it makes no sense to me that ondemandtcl is not available to you Oct 13 05:55:15 they won't offer you support for preware Oct 13 05:55:28 oh sorry wrea, was expecting a response from grover_ Oct 13 05:55:35 lol, np Oct 13 05:55:57 grover_: there is nothing below the blue line aside from palm default? Oct 13 05:56:21 I would I could vnc into your tp :P Oct 13 05:57:23 no im sorry i misunderstood you originally Oct 13 05:57:55 below that is CPU1 freqency etc Oct 13 05:58:12 i was thinking when you clicked on profile button Oct 13 05:59:38 that is what I mean...when you first click on the profile line Oct 13 06:00:32 when i click on profile line, it says advanced settings, then there is a blue line then nothing under that Oct 13 06:04:12 i hate to say it but it's over my pay grade Oct 13 06:04:27 I'm usually pretty good at the "simple" stuff Oct 13 06:04:34 well thats ok, i appreciate the help Oct 13 06:04:42 ill keep looking Oct 13 06:05:16 the only last thing I could recommend is uninstalling and reinstalling govnah, but I don't forsee it fixing anything Oct 13 06:05:26 its just so weird that the option for 1.5ghz was there and now its gone Oct 13 06:05:28 or you could try using the testing feed and using a different kernel Oct 13 06:05:37 yeah tried that originally Oct 13 06:05:54 hmmm perhaps i will try a different one, any one you would reccomend? Oct 13 06:06:02 are you new to the concept of kernels? Oct 13 06:06:09 is ubersexual showing in your launcher Oct 13 06:06:22 yes, i only followed the tutorial for this uberkernel Oct 13 06:06:24 or rather do you know what a kernel is? Oct 13 06:07:04 if you're new to kernels, and don't fully understand what they are, I don't recommend using the testing feed Oct 13 06:08:04 ok well i will do some reading here, thanks again for the help larry Oct 13 06:08:14 I think you will find webos-internals.org to be your best resource, however Oct 13 06:10:09 and I hate to be a party-pooper, but I'd recommend staying away from webosbuzz Oct 13 06:10:23 d'oh Oct 13 06:10:52 and XDA Developers posts that talk about webOS kernels. Oct 13 06:11:32 I was more referring to webosbuzz's allowance of warez Oct 13 06:11:48 or rather encouragement Oct 13 06:19:38 I'mout Oct 13 06:19:41 adios Oct 13 07:25:55 hey Oct 13 07:27:23 my preware is acting up while updating feeds. ERROR messages came up n nothing was updated. Command failed with return value 1: wget -- passive--ftp etc. Oct 13 07:28:48 can someone help? Oct 13 07:30:07 it's an intermittent DNS issue it seems. keep trying, or wait 24 hours. Oct 13 07:30:53 alright , will wait Oct 13 08:00:28 i've copied over some jpgs to my pre3 from usb mode but they're not showing up in the photo apps yet. is there anyway to force a rescan? what about the "emergency filecache wipe" ? Oct 13 08:02:53 does anyone know when icq will aivalbel for the synergy apps? Oct 13 08:38:47 nburn: if I had to guess, maybe the media indexer still dies on the pre3. restart and then go into and out of usb mode to try to force it to rescan Oct 13 08:39:35 i figured it out Oct 13 08:39:49 i had some randon .jpg file that the pre3 didn't like Oct 13 08:40:20 i opened a few of the largest ones in photoshop and resaved them as web ready images and they're fixed now Oct 13 08:41:07 so apparently the indexer stumbles on certain files some times Oct 13 08:41:32 if i had to guess. I had an image named .jpg when it was really a .bmp or something .. Oct 13 08:42:04 ah, weird Oct 13 08:42:30 was nice meeting rwhitby tonight :) Oct 13 08:43:01 jealous.. Oct 13 08:43:18 what went down with all the franken stuff. I saw something mentioned on twitter ? Oct 13 08:43:52 i think there was some franken going on. Oct 13 08:44:10 i was sad i didn't get a touchpad in the raffle. Oct 13 08:47:45 there were like 6 frankpres made Oct 13 08:49:08 re: the feeds, it looks like one of the two authoritative NS for preware.org is out of sync Oct 13 08:49:34 both ns45 and ns46 have the same zone serial, but only one returns a hit for ipkg.preware.org Oct 13 08:49:53 that might not fix itself Oct 13 08:50:10 (or not for a week on its own) Oct 13 08:51:17 i brought a T5, but it looked like Rod had it under control. Oct 13 08:54:26 rod wasn't even doing them... I think he was keyboard swapping a pre3, but brian was doing the swaps on the franken pre2s Oct 13 08:56:56 ah Oct 13 09:00:17 ka6sox-away: pingg Oct 13 09:01:58 * ka6sox-away wakes up @ 2am from a pingg and wonders whats up? Oct 13 09:02:08 whoops Oct 13 09:02:19 sorry, not that important Oct 13 09:02:35 was just wondering if you could force a reload or update to the preware.org dns Oct 13 09:02:43 no Oct 13 09:02:59 what are you waiting for? Oct 13 09:03:08 a new updated app? Oct 13 09:03:11 or ? Oct 13 09:03:13 ns45 and ns46 look desync'd Oct 13 09:03:24 even though they claim to serve the same zone serial Oct 13 09:03:40 but only on eof them returns ipkg.preware.org Oct 13 09:03:42 ya, thats not in my DNS perview Oct 13 09:03:56 alright, go back to sleep :) Oct 13 09:03:57 I don't have the preware domain Oct 13 09:04:10 wosi?.yup Oct 13 09:04:15 but not preware. Oct 13 09:04:35 rwhitby only then? Oct 13 09:04:41 uh huh Oct 13 09:05:00 I don't need it... I can always use a working name/ip Oct 13 09:05:48 ya, I would say add to hosts file?but thats dangerous. Oct 13 09:05:59 especially since we have 3 mirrors we rotate thru. Oct 13 09:06:08 it's a fine temporary solution, but I'm not telling it to anyone Oct 13 09:06:36 yes, thats not a good solution to publish anywhere as it could fail. Oct 13 09:07:04 and the best part is it'll take awhile for anyone to realize why! Oct 13 09:07:27 leading to 3am cries of "your dns is broken" Oct 13 09:08:06 (which actually was the case 24hrs ago as our DNS fronting group "forgot to renew their domain"....whoops. Oct 13 09:08:11 ) Oct 13 09:08:46 well, maybe godaddy or whoever will somehow manage to fix their dns before rod wakes up Oct 13 09:09:37 lets hope Oct 13 09:10:26 okay, I have written marching orders for my Serfs for tommorrow, solved all the webOS problems for 1 night and need sleep. Oct 13 09:10:40 good night Oct 13 09:10:57 enjoy your unlocked 4g touchpad ;) Oct 13 09:11:06 ???? Oct 13 09:11:50 (at least I think they said you were getting one tomorrow) Oct 13 09:12:16 * ka6sox-away dances in the Aisles (if there was an Aisle here) Oct 13 09:19:15 I'm getting pretty persistent errors trying to check for updates in prepare. "bad address" repeatedly. Is that a known situation or is my touchpad broke? :D Oct 13 09:19:48 elfurbe, yes, DNS servers out of sync Oct 13 09:20:39 elfurbe I assume you mean Preware not Prepare (since it would appear as if auto-correct is sucking up Preware) Oct 13 09:21:17 oy. Yes, Preware. Oct 13 09:21:28 I'm glad you speak autocorrect Oct 13 09:21:54 he he?.now if I could slap that errant dns server back into sync. Oct 13 09:22:34 i typed my twitter account into a touchpad as it was passed around. It autocorrected "toddashi" to "foreskin." Glad I noticed and fixed it. Oct 13 09:22:53 hm Oct 13 09:23:03 what's the deal with wIRC's fstab problem Oct 13 09:23:07 not good. Oct 13 09:23:09 I cant find a patch for the Veer Oct 13 09:23:20 and what would happen if I simply ignored that warning? :-D Oct 13 09:23:35 phoque_uni what are you referring to? Oct 13 09:23:47 What does wIRC have to do with fstab? Oct 13 09:24:04 when installing wIRC from preware there are big fat red letters warning me to install the fstab fixer patch Oct 13 09:24:27 What's the issue with the DNS server? Oct 13 09:27:32 phoque_uni : not noticed that? since you have asked here and the authors of wIRC are known to hang out here?wait patiently and you shall most likely get an answer (in due time) Oct 13 09:28:01 elfurbe, several of the DNS servers @ the DNS serving group are missing the record. Oct 13 09:28:18 ie: out of sync Oct 13 09:29:16 anyway, 2:25am?and I am sleeping Oct 13 09:29:17 nite Oct 13 10:22:31 hi Oct 13 10:22:53 helloooooo Oct 13 10:23:22 ğü§ Oct 13 10:23:31 µ Oct 13 10:57:00 hi tehre Oct 13 10:57:02 there Oct 13 10:57:23 is someone here alive? Oct 13 10:57:49 list Oct 13 10:59:18 O. Oct 13 13:18:31 For some reason Preware won't load and feed information Oct 13 13:18:36 and finds no packages Oct 13 13:49:22 good morning all Oct 13 13:49:36 is ipkg.preware.org down Oct 13 13:50:18 It seems to be shaky Oct 13 13:50:28 I could connect for a few minutes then Oct 13 13:51:01 Well as long is it is not only me. Oct 13 13:51:52 dam needed novaterm Oct 13 13:54:07 would any one have a direct link to it. Oct 13 13:55:51 I think you get it from the SDK Oct 13 13:58:10 thanks Oct 13 14:52:15 thank you all. Oct 13 14:52:18 have a good day. Oct 13 15:54:32 so... there have been reports of the maps update making things wonky on devices with unofficial webos versions... has there been any consistency in what happens? Oct 13 15:55:50 ended up fine for me.. I did have to first delete the enyo folder in /usr/palm/frameworks Oct 13 15:55:55 not sure if it's there for everyone Oct 13 15:56:05 (ATT pre+ 2.1) Oct 13 15:56:37 I'm on Vzw pre+ with 2.1 Oct 13 15:57:37 also I've seen nuttybunny say it worked for him on Telcel pre 2.1, ATT PRE+ 2.1, ATT Pixi 2.1, ATT Pre2 2.1 Oct 13 15:57:47 * rwhitby is not going to update anything until I've written a script to move GMaps to a different appid Oct 13 15:57:58 I did get that too rwhitby :) Oct 13 15:58:06 from some german forum :) Oct 13 15:59:13 I have no enyo folder in my frameworks dir Oct 13 15:59:24 should be good then :) Oct 13 15:59:31 I mean, people have been reporting issues Oct 13 15:59:33 so it's a risk Oct 13 15:59:54 save/restore and backup of media drive to PC... done! now time to try the update I guess Oct 13 16:00:30 the worst that happens is I have to redoctor my phone, which would probably be a good thing anyway Oct 13 16:00:44 the dilemma of clutter free vs just works as it is :) Oct 13 16:04:22 I'm so glad to be getting rid of google maps. I'm actually kinda twitchy with excitement :) Oct 13 16:07:40 yeah well apparently those new bing maps are not all that great :) Oct 13 16:07:45 I mean the app is great but the maps suck :) Oct 13 16:08:06 Bing doesn't do transit in Australia for a start Oct 13 16:09:10 my biggest problem with google is the inaccuracy of their address database in the US. it sucks. I normally use bing or yahoo on my computer Oct 13 16:14:32 are there any current known issues with the feeds needed to install preware via WebOS QuickInstall? Oct 13 16:20:15 Google addresses in the US work well for me. But I do live 20 minutes away from the Googleplex in California. Oct 13 16:22:26 when I lived in Minneapolis sometimes google would put me several miles away from the actual house/store I was looking for Oct 13 16:29:29 well... I had 0 issues updating maps Oct 13 16:29:35 works wonderfully Oct 13 16:38:01 one of the install scripts checks for the enyo directory, if it's found it skips some magic and update stuff Oct 13 17:05:13 rwhitby-away: ping Oct 13 17:05:21 rwhitby: ping Oct 13 17:05:52 TheMann00, yes, DNS is an issue Oct 13 17:06:24 dwc-, rwhitby tried to kick the DNS servers by switching our feeds to another mirror. Oct 13 17:07:00 I'm still seeing ipkg2, and no cname on the other Oct 13 17:07:24 ... I do see an updated zone serial though Oct 13 17:07:33