**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 17 02:59:56 2011 Oct 17 03:48:41 hiya peeps :) Oct 17 03:49:03 hi Oct 17 03:50:08 wrea: greetings how goes it? Oct 17 03:50:23 it goes Oct 17 03:50:38 :) Oct 17 03:50:52 well I downgraded yesterday Oct 17 03:51:59 I did like 2.1 though Oct 17 03:52:37 Still waiting for my veer to come back Oct 17 03:52:57 oh that's right Oct 17 03:53:15 did you have another palm Oct 17 03:53:24 just my touchpad Oct 17 03:54:19 ok Oct 17 03:54:53 question Oct 17 03:55:14 where does webos save my memos Oct 17 03:56:51 veers are cute Oct 17 04:06:23 Anyone successfully mounted a cifs or NFS share running F4? I just keep getting "permission denied". Is there a tool I should/could be using to do mounts besides xterm? Oct 17 04:08:03 what is the exact error you get when you run the mount command? Oct 17 04:08:35 permission denied Oct 17 04:08:59 for cifs Oct 17 04:09:14 For NFS I keep getting connection refused, though I know the NAS is listening for NFS Oct 17 04:09:21 what does your mount command look like? Oct 17 04:09:23 for nfs Oct 17 04:13:09 mount -t nfs ip.address.here:/nfs/mount /media/cryptofs/nas/mount Oct 17 04:13:26 and the exact text of your error is? Oct 17 04:14:23 mounting (first bit) on (second bit) failed: Connection refused Oct 17 04:14:34 I've tried several different shares Oct 17 04:14:43 what does rpcinfo -p ip.address.here return Oct 17 04:14:55 Also, total aside, but is there a way to switch between cards from the Bluetooth keyboard? Oct 17 04:16:32 no Oct 17 04:17:04 A long list of ports I'd expect. Sorry, I'm on the touchpad so copy/paste is non-trivial from Xterm unless I'm uninformed. I can switch to nova on my laptop if the specific output is relevant Oct 17 04:17:17 the output is relevant Oct 17 04:17:25 @rwhitby Bummer. That'd be useful. Oct 17 04:17:35 since it seems like your nfsd isn't answering on the port your mount is expecting Oct 17 04:18:26 if you have netcat or telnet installed, you can see if you can telnet to port 2049 Oct 17 04:18:45 that's a standard port anyways Oct 17 04:18:50 Ok, I'm gonna drop and pull my laptop out and get wired up. Be right back. Oct 17 04:25:02 And I'm back Oct 17 04:25:06 rpcinfo output: http://pastebin.com/317TjxXk Oct 17 04:26:44 hmm, so the only oddities I see there are the 100227 entries that are also on 2049 and have no name Oct 17 04:28:39 1. have you tried specifying udp or tcp? or if you've tried specifying one, does the other work? Oct 17 04:28:40 Yeah, that's kinda odd Oct 17 04:28:48 I haven't tried specifiying Oct 17 04:28:56 2. have you tried -o nolock (that'll skip nlockmgr) Oct 17 04:29:32 3. can you try telnet/nmap/netcat and verify that the ports for nlockmgr, nfs, and mountd are all accessible? Oct 17 04:29:53 nolock worked Oct 17 04:30:11 Backing up to #1 Oct 17 04:30:19 well, I guess that answers the question Oct 17 04:31:03 oh... Oct 17 04:31:13 do you have portmapper/lockd running on the touchpad? Oct 17 04:31:43 both tcp and udp failed Oct 17 04:31:47 Oh, I don't know Oct 17 04:31:49 lemme look Oct 17 04:32:05 (not that it's required, but you do need a lockd if you're going to use nfs locking) Oct 17 04:32:16 No, neither of them is running Oct 17 04:32:20 Didn't even think to look Oct 17 04:32:34 I get ahead of myself sometimes, forget to check the obvious stuff :D Oct 17 04:32:36 so then, I guess, if you don't care about locking, you can just -o nolock and be done Oct 17 04:32:56 I was gonna mount read-only anyway, so it shouldn't be a problem, right? Oct 17 04:33:01 But I'd like it to work Oct 17 04:33:01 yep Oct 17 04:33:25 Should there be an init script that starts the normal NFS services? Oct 17 04:33:36 I don't think that comes installed by default Oct 17 04:33:54 preware has them though? Oct 17 04:34:07 I'm not sure Oct 17 04:34:13 optware might have them Oct 17 04:34:36 I see portmap but not lockd Oct 17 04:34:47 should be part of the nfs utils, which I don't see? Oct 17 04:35:39 I see references to nfs-utils Oct 17 04:36:07 :) Oct 17 04:36:09 dwc-: hiya Oct 17 04:36:29 hi Oct 17 04:36:59 palmuse: welcome Oct 17 04:37:18 thx Oct 17 04:38:58 dwc-: youre on a pre2? Oct 17 04:39:52 that is my current daily device, yes Oct 17 04:40:05 oh ok... Oct 17 04:40:15 i had to downgrade back to 1.4.5 Oct 17 04:40:19 i really did like 2.1 Oct 17 04:40:31 but i kept freezing and too forever for cards to come up Oct 17 04:41:18 opps it Oct 17 04:41:28 o_O Oct 17 04:42:00 that is not an uncommon complaint :/ Oct 17 04:42:57 2,1 is soo smooth though Oct 17 04:43:04 it looks sharper too Oct 17 04:43:31 i thought about installing it again just to give it a chance but im not sure Oct 17 04:43:36 TouchPlayer streaming media over wifi from my NAS works pretty good for non-HD content :D Oct 17 04:46:26 ka6sox: hiya :) Oct 17 04:46:41 i need to figure out how to get ls2 working in 1.4.4 Oct 17 04:46:42 i1.4.5 Oct 17 04:46:48 i want voice dial from 2.x Oct 17 04:48:09 PuffTheMagic: that would be cool Oct 17 04:50:39 i tried installing it to day and it failed Oct 17 04:50:46 pretty sure its cause of lack of ls2 Oct 17 04:51:58 hmm Oct 17 04:52:14 ls2? Oct 17 04:52:50 PuffTheMagic: why dont you go to 2.1? Oct 17 04:53:02 pixi Oct 17 04:53:39 the arm6 vs arm7 didn't cause issues? Oct 17 04:53:57 doubt it Oct 17 04:54:15 dont think palm uses any special cflags Oct 17 04:54:17 could be wrong Oct 17 04:54:22 but it failed on the ipk install Oct 17 04:54:24 not running it Oct 17 04:54:31 ive seen the pixi on the 2.1 Oct 17 04:54:34 which means it was rejected cause of a depends issue Oct 17 04:55:00 actionfigure, 2.x hardly runs on a pre2, Oct 17 04:55:11 not gonna waste my time with it on a pixi Oct 17 04:55:47 why not upgrade the phone? Oct 17 04:56:07 if sprint had a new webos phone maybe i would Oct 17 04:56:10 i dont care about 2.x Oct 17 04:56:23 i thought becuz of the hardware of the pre2..it ran 2.x pretty well? no? Oct 17 04:56:36 i care about having a slim non slider phone Oct 17 04:56:49 what does webos2 have that i really need Oct 17 04:56:53 ive seen a few videos with people who run 2.1 on a pre+ pretty well..i had issues with mine :( Oct 17 04:57:08 3x3 fixed launcher? lol no! Oct 17 04:57:17 PuffTheMagic: good point...id like to get a pixi for fun :) Oct 17 04:57:32 PuffTheMagic: 3x3? what do you mean Oct 17 04:57:54 no patches for app launcher in 2.x Oct 17 04:59:58 I love the autocorrect, stacked cards, and I'm sure I have a couple apps that require 2+ Oct 17 05:00:12 RagingMind: what do you have? Oct 17 05:00:14 stacked cares are so broke Oct 17 05:00:21 Pre+ on verizon Oct 17 05:00:22 s/cares/cards/ Oct 17 05:00:22 PuffTheMagic meant: stacked cards are so broke Oct 17 05:00:48 RagingMind: oh ok..so does your 2.1 run pretty good? lags? freezes? Oct 17 05:01:20 oh yea, the autocorrect is good Oct 17 05:01:23 most of the time I love it. but sometimes it does lag at very bad moments Oct 17 05:01:26 ... for a few frustrating laughs Oct 17 05:01:51 well 1.4.5 on my phone runs really fast Oct 17 05:01:54 no problems Oct 17 05:02:06 once in a great while it will freeze for 2 secs..but very rare Oct 17 05:02:19 I get VERY irate when my phone lags while I"m trying to call my utility companies and they have a touch-tone menu... and the screen just stops responding to touch for a while Oct 17 05:02:59 hmmm Oct 17 05:03:16 RagingMind: i just stopped using the touch dial Oct 17 05:03:22 id love a patch that would make the 1.4.5 as smooth and sharp as 2.1... :) Oct 17 05:03:41 even when things are laggy, the keyboard numbers seem to always work perfecly instantly Oct 17 05:04:05 AH... I never think about the keyboard when I'm in a call Oct 17 05:04:43 dtzWill: so does yours freeze often? or rarely? Oct 17 05:06:34 farely often Oct 17 05:06:41 although phone's been acting kind strange lately Oct 17 05:07:13 oh ok Oct 17 05:07:54 my biggest concern isn't just the lag but sometimes i couldn't tell if it 'knew' i hit the key at all on the screen Oct 17 05:08:07 and so i'd wait 5-10 seconds to guess if it was gonna respond it'd do so aleady Oct 17 05:08:24 pay for parking via phone sometimes, and that's not something you wanna double-hit a digit on :) Oct 17 05:08:51 lol Oct 17 05:08:53 very true Oct 17 05:09:02 i went back to 1.4.5 yesterday Oct 17 05:09:20 i do miss the sharp and smooth feel of the 2.1 but no freezes so far Oct 17 05:10:40 so what is the default size of an icon in 2.1? 3x3? Oct 17 05:12:20 anyone successfully recovered from a 12% doctor failure, where the problem is you can't write anything to the usb share on the TP Oct 17 05:12:55 been following this thread, but doesn't help my issue http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/295881-webos-doctor-12-issue-fixed.html Oct 17 05:14:51 think maybe the lvm's need to be rebuilt? but i'm not sure a little over my head Oct 17 05:52:51 damnit... i do dosfsck -r and it repairs it.. but by the time it boots into recovery i guess its corrupt again Oct 17 05:54:37 http://pastebin.com/q6rQY9pH Oct 17 07:08:29 its the freaking partitions this thing thinks its a 16gb tp Oct 17 07:08:30 its a 32 Oct 17 07:08:34 anyone heard of this? Oct 17 07:08:55 pvscan outputs from a 16gb Oct 17 07:14:19 noslen, ? Oct 17 07:14:32 did you doctor it? Oct 17 07:15:08 can't Oct 17 07:15:12 it always fails at 12 Oct 17 07:15:54 tried different pc's different downloads, differen't novacoms etc Oct 17 07:15:56 noslen, what is the model #? Oct 17 07:16:17 if the on key is upper left Oct 17 07:16:29 push on the tab on upper RIGHT side Oct 17 07:16:35 the model # is in there. Oct 17 07:16:48 HSTNH-129C Oct 17 07:17:44 got that from device information Oct 17 07:18:16 interesting Oct 17 07:18:25 whats that tell you? Oct 17 07:18:57 I would say that you either have: Oct 17 07:19:03 1) a Bad Flash Oct 17 07:19:14 2) they put in the WRONG Flash :D Oct 17 07:19:29 oh shit Oct 17 07:19:47 honestly i don't remember checking the space before I had an issue Oct 17 07:19:55 i copied some music there but not alot Oct 17 07:20:04 so quite possible Oct 17 07:20:13 if its a "copy" then shouldnt' be an issue Oct 17 07:20:45 damn, so am i basically screwed? Oct 17 07:21:18 well...@ any time did it report that you had MORE space? Oct 17 07:21:31 i really can't remember Oct 17 07:21:45 are you sure you didn't buy a 16GB? :P Oct 17 07:21:59 the model # is a 32GB Oct 17 07:22:03 ah Oct 17 07:23:01 yeh says memory 16gb, available 10.6 Oct 17 07:23:44 ok well heres another thing... I did have a 16gb I gave to a friend. Both TPs are still under my name on hp's site... any chance that backup stuff could've pulled the 16gb info into mine? Oct 17 07:24:03 you need to call HP Oct 17 07:24:10 this is beyond what we can do here. Oct 17 07:24:24 yeh, they are sending a box .. i just wanted to fix it myself Oct 17 07:24:33 :( Oct 17 07:25:28 well thx for help. I give up and i'm going to bed Oct 17 07:25:52 nite Oct 17 09:55:12 touchplayer update on tp hangs Oct 17 09:55:26 download is finished, so i guess it is a postinst script Oct 17 09:59:55 hm, don't see anything in ps ax, no child processes of ipkgservice Oct 17 11:05:29 hmm, my Veer crashes the instant I type in my PIN Oct 17 11:05:51 would watching logs using Lumberjack of any use? Oct 17 11:41:01 rwhitby: is there info on the AUS dial plan somewhere i can look at? Oct 17 11:47:01 nope Oct 17 11:48:11 wanted to add to it if it was possible Oct 17 12:32:08 hewball: https://github.com/webos-internals/patches/blob/webos-2.2.3/system/system-fix-au-dial-plan.patch Oct 17 12:32:13 that's what it looks like Oct 17 12:32:56 oh nuts Oct 17 12:33:30 makes the sipura ATA ones look easy Oct 17 12:33:42 I had to instrument the code which reads that and implements an FSM based on it just to fix the bug Oct 17 12:34:44 i think ill not bother then Oct 17 12:36:10 was thinking 1831 and 1832 pre dial codes would be handy, but not looking at that Oct 17 20:42:27 Odd issue with pre3 after fresh ATT docter, no patches installed, new profile, only installed govnah via webos QI. In airplane mode or "any mode", govnah will report the CPU is running at 122mhz when the screen is ON. When I turn the screen off but keep govnah opened, the proc will jump up to 1.4ghz for the entire time the screen is off. Any thoughts? Oct 17 21:51:49 PuffTheMagic: i assume you've been asked this many times, but is it poss to use MHS? Oct 17 21:52:17 ajay, if you want to use MHS, remove FT Oct 17 21:52:27 they conflict with each other Oct 17 21:52:33 PuffTheMagic: Oh, I meant is it possible to have FT use MHS Oct 17 21:52:44 what would the point of that be? Oct 17 21:52:48 (thought this'd be a quicker way to converse than twitter :) Oct 17 21:53:04 PuffTheMagic: MHS takes out of my 5 GB MHS quota, FT takes out of my phone's 2GB quota Oct 17 21:53:22 hmmm Oct 17 21:53:35 i see what you are saying Oct 17 21:53:59 ajay, i suspect that I would need you to do some sniffing with ls-monitor to figure out what is going on there Oct 17 21:54:17 but im a little busy the rest of the night to do that Oct 17 21:54:47 to help with that Oct 17 21:55:32 ajay, if you want to run ls-monitor via novaterm, and then use MHS for a min and send me the output that would help Oct 17 21:55:38 PuffTheMagic: k! Oct 17 21:56:39 ajay, ya know, this sounds like im gonna have to add another toggle to the ui now and there is no more room :( Oct 17 21:58:47 PuffTheMagic: hmm.. Oct 17 21:59:20 unless the page scrolls but i wanted to avoid that ;) Oct 17 21:59:31 PuffTheMagic: anyway to give you just the MHS output, or are you okay with taking it all? (seeing gCal, etc, goin on) Oct 17 21:59:32 I thought FT used parts of mobilehotspot Oct 17 21:59:46 ajay, i can sift thought it Oct 17 21:59:48 dwc-, nopw Oct 17 22:00:00 the hotspotd, which seems to sometimes leave a cpu hozing hostapd around, etc Oct 17 22:00:18 dwc-, FT uses some secondary services of which mobilehotspotd also uses Oct 17 22:00:30 but FT's service emulates what mhsd does Oct 17 22:00:34 with out using it Oct 17 22:03:02 man, that is ONE verbose prog! puts my mouth to shame :) Oct 17 22:03:26 PuffTheMagic: ok, enabled MHS, connected touchpad, disabled, turned off. What do I do with the output? Oct 17 22:03:44 rmh3093 at gmail dot com Oct 17 22:04:00 oo you coulda PM'd me that :) Oct 17 22:04:18 my email is everywhere, doesnt matter much Oct 17 22:06:38 i say my phone number and address in here ^^ Oct 17 22:06:43 PuffTheMagic: please don't hack into my gmail account. That right is reserved exclusively for Connor (I assume he has everyone's pw, i dunno.. ;^) Oct 17 22:07:00 lol... Oct 17 22:07:26 ajay, im pretty sure palm does not dump passwords to logs Oct 17 22:09:05 PuffTheMagic: hm, yeah i guess that cmd wouldn't really put that out anyways, of course i was joking :) Oct 17 22:09:15 ;) Oct 17 22:09:22 i think com.palm.wanservice might be key Oct 17 22:09:43 PuffTheMagic: you should have the email now btw (incase i was vague earlier :) Oct 17 22:09:57 im looking at it instead of doing what i need to be doing ;) Oct 17 22:11:49 PuffTheMagic: if it helps, know that i've been wanting this for a long time.. :) today's update and practicing this thing called "twitter" finally brought it all to a head :) Oct 17 22:12:02 lol Oct 17 22:12:38 you people and your twitter Oct 17 22:13:25 wrea: I don't really even know what a twitter is, i accidentally try to use it sometimes Oct 17 22:13:32 i wonder if it can tell me the status of my phone;^) Oct 17 22:19:10 ajay, did you pipe that output right to a file or did you copy it from the term? Oct 17 22:39:24 PuffTheMagic: piped (2>&1 | tee -a /tmp/filename) Oct 17 22:39:50 SineOt: hmm! i wonder.. Oct 17 22:39:59 PuffTheMagic: what will i be looking for once I run the cmd? Oct 17 22:40:23 ajay, luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.wan/connectservice '{"service":"tethered","usage":"userInitiated"}' Oct 17 22:40:36 should give a 1 line response Oct 17 22:40:38 just paste if Oct 17 22:40:58 i get { "returnValue": false, "errorCode": 1, "errorText": "Tethered-Entitlement not successfully made yet" } Oct 17 22:41:36 PuffTheMagic: { "returnValue": true, "errorCode": 0, "errorText": "" } Oct 17 22:42:09 ooo just noticed what you got, so that sounds promising! Oct 17 22:42:12 nice Oct 17 22:42:41 what about this Oct 17 22:42:42 luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.telephony/tetheredSet '{"enable":true}' Oct 17 22:43:04 { "returnValue": true, "errorCode": 0, "errorString": "success" } Oct 17 22:43:12 nice again Oct 17 22:43:28 but that is with mobilehotspotd running Oct 17 22:43:38 i wonder what happens if that is disabled Oct 17 22:43:55 * ajay waits for puff to say 'what about "rm -rf /"?' :) Oct 17 22:45:12 yeah how do i kill a service.. upstart? I've been wondering.. Oct 17 22:45:33 its not an official service Oct 17 22:50:27 is there a way to issue an 'unmount from USB' command from novaterm? Oct 17 22:50:45 there is Oct 17 22:51:18 http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Luna_Send Oct 17 22:51:19 (or spoken more correctly, 'leave USB mode') and... (do you know what it is? :) Oct 17 22:51:28 btw, what ejecting are you doing? Oct 17 22:51:38 dwc-: my pre2 Oct 17 22:51:55 in windows, I've noticed if I eject the device, rather than the E: drive it tells me it's safe to unplug, but doesn't leave usb mode Oct 17 22:54:31 PuffTheMagic: i might go for lunch soon, any other tests? likely w/ MHSd disabled? Oct 17 22:54:48 hm, if i could just cut power to the usb port, that might do it! Oct 17 22:54:49 naa dont worry about it right now Oct 17 22:54:54 i really need to do some other work Oct 17 22:56:14 PuffTheMagic: but what if i am good at worrying? :) Oct 17 23:05:50 PuffTheMagic: you're responsible for freetether right ? Oct 17 23:06:00 ya Oct 17 23:06:18 it's got problems on my pre3 :) Oct 17 23:06:32 i think i saw your post Oct 17 23:06:35 something about usb mode? Oct 17 23:06:37 turns on but not off Oct 17 23:06:44 wifi Oct 17 23:06:54 describe exactly what you do Oct 17 23:07:01 cause others with pre3 said its fine Oct 17 23:07:08 does your hotspotd stay running, and leave the hostapd and dhcpd running too? Oct 17 23:07:09 tapping on the wifi hing to change passwords won't work either Oct 17 23:07:33 bhuey, u need to disable wifi toggle before changing settings Oct 17 23:07:41 ok Oct 17 23:07:42 PuffTheMagic: I'm guessing it's a wifi vs bt/usb issue Oct 17 23:07:54 (mine does that *sometimes* but not always too) Oct 17 23:08:02 it also won't bring down dhcp, etc.. and turn of properly Oct 17 23:08:46 still won't turn off Oct 17 23:08:58 ip forwarding and dhcp are still on Oct 17 23:09:24 PuffTheMagic: ok feel free to email me any q's/tests/etc, ima go now.. Oct 17 23:09:27 Heeeeeeeeeeeeyyy!!!! :D Oct 17 23:09:32 * dwc- didn't have time to follow how it worked on the pre2 to try to debug on the pre3 Oct 17 23:10:00 PuffTheMagic: is there any logs I can send you or something ? Oct 17 23:12:44 bhuey, i dont really make any attempt to stop dhcp right now Oct 17 23:12:56 i need to do more digging into that service as its not really documented ;) Oct 17 23:13:25 I have a pre 3 so I can be a tester Oct 17 23:13:32 if you were local I'd give you a pre 3 tp play with Oct 17 23:13:59 im pretty sure ka6sox has a pre3 for me in his living room Oct 17 23:14:05 might send it to me when he has time Oct 17 23:14:35 bhuey, did you get the wifi prefs to change? Oct 17 23:16:51 no Oct 17 23:16:54 it was stuck Oct 17 23:18:25 hmm Oct 17 23:18:45 toggle is off, you tap on wifi (or use the menu), and you cant change the settings? Oct 17 23:19:29 nope Oct 17 23:19:33 stuck Oct 17 23:19:39 unlike my pre 2 Oct 17 23:19:44 I think I had taht happen briefly Oct 17 23:19:52 but I dont' really remember now, and it went away Oct 17 23:19:58 bhuey, they greyed out like they are disabled? Oct 17 23:20:33 wont' even move over Oct 17 23:20:42 like stuck in the on position Oct 17 23:20:50 oh the toggle Oct 17 23:20:54 ye Oct 17 23:20:55 hmm Oct 17 23:20:57 yes Oct 17 23:21:00 wonder if the service died Oct 17 23:21:10 I have to restart the device to get it back Oct 17 23:21:19 it's runnign 2.2.3 btw Oct 17 23:21:21 try enabling wifi Oct 17 23:21:25 from the top right menu Oct 17 23:21:33 lhmm nm Oct 17 23:21:35 nm Oct 17 23:21:38 on Oct 17 23:21:44 what next ? Oct 17 23:21:45 looks like im not listening to that subscription yet Oct 17 23:21:46 i should Oct 17 23:22:16 ps -Af | grep freetether Oct 17 23:22:23 ^^ is the service still alive? Oct 17 23:23:06 no Oct 17 23:23:16 nothing there Oct 17 23:24:12 it's running 2.6.32 btw Oct 17 23:24:37 2.6.32-9 Oct 17 23:24:37 ahh so the service died Oct 17 23:24:47 do you have gdb installed by any chance? Oct 17 23:24:56 but it works when I tether it Oct 17 23:25:01 probably not Oct 17 23:25:09 no Oct 17 23:25:30 how can I install it ? preware ? Oct 17 23:26:18 well it cant possible work right now if the service is not running Oct 17 23:26:33 if you have the ipkg-opt installed from preware Oct 17 23:26:35 gdb should be in optware, but I installed the one I found in the pdk/sdk Oct 17 23:26:38 you can install it Oct 17 23:27:08 running preware right now Oct 17 23:27:34 oh wait there was a recent update to freetether Oct 17 23:27:38 installing that now Oct 17 23:27:55 yeah, in preware, the optware advanced command line installer or whatever is ipkg-opt Oct 17 23:28:03 installing optware Oct 17 23:28:22 think it's a seperate package from base optware Oct 17 23:28:35 url for this operation ? Oct 17 23:28:58 uh, url? Oct 17 23:29:17 it's install now Oct 17 23:29:24 what's the command line args and stuf to install gdb ? Oct 17 23:29:58 installing now figure it out :) Oct 17 23:30:00 pretty simple Oct 17 23:30:26 just get to a command line on the device and ipkg-opt update Oct 17 23:30:31 installed Oct 17 23:30:32 ipkg-opt install gdb Oct 17 23:30:40 PuffTheMagic: what should I do next ? Oct 17 23:31:01 well if u just updated check to see if the service is running Oct 17 23:31:04 if it is, stop it Oct 17 23:31:14 stop org.webosinternals.freetether Oct 17 23:31:21 then run the service with gdb Oct 17 23:31:23 bhuey: FWIW webos 1.x shipped with gdb on it (and tons of other stuff) :) Oct 17 23:32:00 gdb /var/usr/sbin/org.webosinternals.freetether Oct 17 23:32:07 type run after that Oct 17 23:32:13 then fire up the FT gui Oct 17 23:33:43 hey PuffTheMagic, have you figured out any way to enable core dumps on the device? I have it enabled, but can't seem to get it to dump me anything other than a 0-byte corefile Oct 17 23:33:59 no i've never messed with that Oct 17 23:35:21 PuffTheMagic: but run freetether right ? Oct 17 23:35:39 same issue Oct 17 23:35:43 going to check the service Oct 17 23:35:48 once you start the service in gdb run the gui Oct 17 23:36:01 it's running Oct 17 23:36:15 you mean restart the service ? using what ? Oct 17 23:36:38 outside of gdb stop the service 'stop org.webosinternals.freetether' Oct 17 23:36:58 then start the service using gdb 'gdb /var/usr/sbin/org.webosinternals.freetether' Oct 17 23:37:15 after running the gdb command you have to type run to actually start gdb Oct 17 23:37:20 you forgot 'run' in the (gdb) prompt Oct 17 23:38:16 stopped Oct 17 23:38:31 PuffTheMagic: it crashes immediately or something Oct 17 23:38:41 wait.. Oct 17 23:38:48 bt Oct 17 23:38:54 spawned 3 threads Oct 17 23:38:59 right it does that Oct 17 23:39:14 still not turning off Oct 17 23:39:53 that is so weird, i have a number of reports of it working just fine on pre3 Oct 17 23:40:07 this is 2.6.32-9 Oct 17 23:40:11